richoweng
15th November 2006 - 04:27 PM
http://www.physorg.com/news82754873.html This is basically the technology which Nicola Tesla wore out his life on trying to get someone to help him develop. See the Movie "Prestige". What he did in Colorado Springs and then on Long Island is fact which was largely scoffed at and ignored. The main reason Westinghouse and JP Morgan wouldn"t fund such research is that it was considered very difficult or impossible to sell power to people who can collect it without being connected. If you can indeed transmit power efficiently in this manner then building roadways with transmitters and cars as receivers could finally give us a way to simple and clean transport. This is good that someone is again trying to do this, I hope this time that you have a way to meter and sell the power you are transmitting. Cell phone technology should enable such communication between transmitter and receiver. Good luck.
dirk.bruere
15th November 2006 - 09:47 PM
Looks remarkably similar to resonant charging devices I've worked on in the past. The trick is to keep the frequencies fairly low eg under 100kHz and to resonantly couple two high Q LC systems. Bill Beatty has also written a LOT about this kind of thing, here:
amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
Dirk
w w w.onetribe.me.uk - The UK's only occult talk show
Presented by Dirk Bruere and Marc Power on ResonanceFM 104.4
dboots
15th November 2006 - 11:03 PM
I have been told by many retired Electricians and Pacific Bell retirees that
the wireless energy is creating health problems on the population.
Wireless energy is not grounded as our normal electricity and telephone is grounded. The towers are getting overloaded every single day. When the signal
which is programmed to go to a certain tower, if that tower is overloaded, that
signal will then seek the next source of our electrical poles, telephone poles,
even our TV antennas. You can hear the static on the line of your cell phones
and home telephones. My real estate agent says she can tell when her cell
phone is going to ring by the static on her computer screen. So she knows her
cell phone is about to ring, even before it rings. The static energy is so
overwhelming that the population has been noticing their home telephone signal
gets lost a lot. Too many people are experiencing their dialed number has
somehow been rerouted to a lot of fax lines. They hit their redial button
and viola, the same dialed number goes to the original source.
This overloaded situation seems to be more of a problem in states of
overpopulation and overconsumption of this wireless energy source.
The towers they have cannot handle the load of the millions of cell phones already
in use.
This wireless energy transfer seems to me it will only increase the problem
of overload.
Phoebe Bright
15th November 2006 - 11:29 PM
How efficient could this transfer of energy potentially be in comparison to running an old fashioned wire? Intuitively I would expect there would be large losses?
doubts
15th November 2006 - 11:30 PM
I, too worry that the wireless transmission will overload the towers. My bus driver told me that he has seen towers sag under the enormous weight of all of that energy, only to fall onto the highways and byways and kill innocent people. My neigbor told me that he knows when a cellphone call to him is about to happen because he hears a voice that tells him. I can understand all of this, and I am worried.
Alistair Cummings
16th November 2006 - 10:32 AM
It would be amazing if they get the system to work without significant energy loss. It doesn't need to be a 100 or even 70% efficient system considering the power losses via power lines. Given time I'm sure scientists will perfect the technique until then it looks like we'll be dragging cables around a little bit longer
jayakar
16th November 2006 - 11:58 AM
Congratulations.., it is a very good move towards mobile computing.
Argiod
16th November 2006 - 06:56 PM
"While rooted in well-known laws of physics, non-radiative energy transfer is a novel application no one seems to have pursued before."
Yeah, except perhaps by Nicola Tesla, over a hundred years ago... !
dboots
16th November 2006 - 10:28 PM
Phoebe
There is already large losses being created by electrical power transmission
lines. As in any power source, including wireless energy towers, they
produce a static energy. Now take this overloaded signal, which is loaded
with an electrical and magnetic field, add it to an also electrical and
magnetic charge of static, and the static has a way to be moved nearer
to the population and deposited on our electrical transmission poles and TV
antennas.
Most built up areas surrounding by those high wires are now experiencing
that harsh, raspy hum or buzz on the electrical power transmission lines or poles.
Part of that harsh hum or buzz is from electrical magnetic interference or
EMI. Now that our electrical power transmission lines are now being
overloaded with the signals of wireless energy, that is somehow
producing (I am told by retired electricians, and retired electrical transmission line
repairman) another electrical problem called "Corona Discharge".
Both are said to cause health problems on the population if the power companies
ignore the problems. Which because most towns are hearing more of their electrical power transmission lines hum or buzz, then I guess you could say
they could be ignoring this increasing situation
Life7770
16th November 2006 - 10:33 PM
I don't think they are talking about sending energy to power the phones over cell lines, they would have to create magnetic fields the entire size of their service areas and that would be ridiculous. I do think they mean that you could plug in the device in your car or office and it would create a marginal magnetic field that would reach your device and charge it like that...
dboots
17th November 2006 - 12:19 AM
I never intended my statement to have anything to do with sending energy
to power poles. That is your interpretation.
Wireless energy is already extending its energy fields onto our electrical
power transmission poles. I am sure it was not on purpose, but the fact is
that it is an after affect of wireless energy technology.
R Waters
19th November 2006 - 03:58 PM
I find it hard to believe anyone who reads physorg.com can be so stupid.....Dboots
At the very least copy your comments into MS Word and use grammar check!
By the way the Buzz you are referring to is the by-product of your ignorance and complete misunderstanding of basic physics and electrical theory.
P.S. Tesla RULES!
dboots
20th November 2006 - 01:10 AM
r raters
Also electromagnetic interferences and corona discharges are know to
rule in certain fields that they are applied.
For all I know it could be an effect of the unregulated industry of
the new BLUE TOOTH TECHNOLOGY.
jayakar
20th November 2006 - 03:44 AM
Even the organism deep in the sea harvests energy from its environment, for its existence.
Garcier Michaeli LaCamppiello
20th November 2006 - 08:24 PM
The work undertaken by Tesla in regards to "free energy" has not been duplicated, understood nor even philosophically converted to any form of general understanding for the intellectual or layman since its origin at Colorado Springs. Tesla was not creating energy for retransmission for this particular application. On the contrary, the energy in question was already present and a device was created in his mind that would promote the collection of this energy and subsequent retransmission by wire to the device(s) intended. In other words, additional electromagnetic radiation whether it be omni-directional or directed, was not the intent. The energy was to be derived from existing energy sources in the environment. Additional information on this subject is sketchy as the works of Tesla were immediately confiscated on his death from his New York apartment.
dboots
22nd November 2006 - 09:35 AM
G Michael
Yeah Tesla was great. Even nanoscience gave him his own category
of nanoTesla or nT. So his work gets incorporated a lot of what
ever they know about his works one way or the other.
MIS
26th December 2006 - 01:56 PM
Transmitting yet another type of wireless energy would really cause more worry than benefit to the public. We have already having so many EM wave in the atmosphere, why do we need anymore?
Wouldn't it be better if we coat those small electronic gadgets with solar-energy harvesting polymers and thus enable them to recharge themselves?
beckerist
26th December 2006 - 09:13 PM
@dboots:
Have you ever used an electric toothbrush? Probably not, but FYI: the toothbrush, encased entirely in plastic, is placed on a holder which, again, is entirely encased in plastic. Unless this new-fangled plastic has some conductive properties I'm unaware of, the dang thing just charges by itself! Well, given a spinning magnet and a few loops YOU TOO can transmit "free energy." This isn't a good example, I'm aware, for you nit-pickers (yadda yadda electro-magnets != free energy, yadda yadda) but the concept is pretty dang close, and you don't see MY teeth falling out of my head!
...hell, the Human Body emits radiation. It's called Infra-red... I'm sure all the artificial sweeteners, trans fats, smoke inhalation and alcohol ingestion is just FINE for you. Let's worry about HEAT.
dboots
27th December 2006 - 04:37 AM
Dirk
If resonant charging devices use ultra low frequency's, something like that has the potential to interrupt this planet of Earths own biorhythms. These biorhythms are inside of the planet as well as our surrounding atmosphere. Inside of our planet their are many types of resonant cavities. We humans have resonant cavity's that also if they get displaced or a scattering effect would take place would cause Earth and also us humans
EQUILIBRIUMS to sort of rock similar to magnetic poles stabilizing a field. This also has the potential to create sound distortions.
Argiod
I don't believe everything I read, so just because a story states the technology is geared towards non-radiative energy transfer does not mean the theory worked out.
It is entirely possible that although they would like it to be a non-radiative field does not
mean they are not also experimenting in the radiative energy transfer fields also.
Life 7770
In your statement you believe this technology is meant to possibly create a marginal magnetic field.
Our walls inside of our homes could be a type of marginal magnetic fields, full of electrical wiring and copper tubing. If your reasoning can be applied to automobiles why couldn't it then be applied to the interior of our homes and reach all of our
devices of appliances and telephones and TVs also?
Garcier
If what you say is correct, then if the energy is to be derived from existing energy sources then we would have no option but to add more energy to this existing field and that energy that would be needed to add could only be additional
electromagnetic fields induced and they must also have a radiative field.
Then this type of technology would be similar to how they produce TOROIDALS IN A TOKAMAK wouldn't it? Using the plasma current to generate the helical component
of the magnetic field which would be necessary for stable equilibrium.
Garcier I am only a layperson. Is a toroidal a type of Tesla Theory?
Beck
I am told that our new containers on our grocery shelves like the brand new soda cans that the product itself now almost costs twice as much as it did a year ago,
that the container they added silicon or some type of plastic to the mix of the soda can container that has magnetic properties. If they can induce this in one plastic,
maybe they have created a silicon plastic of some type that does have conductive properties, or conductive gases of some sort inside the plastic???
Are you saying your electric toothbrush holder has the ability to RECHARGE ITSELF,
without being plugged in????
MIS
I agree with you. This type of technology I don't think could be contained 100%,
outside of a lab experiment, so therefore it would somehow harm our environment including also us humans. We humans already have conductive properties which is
our tissue. And electromagnetic radiation would scare the heck out of me
if Life7770 statement of this technology being used to create even a marginal magnetic field to any devices within the sphere of our autos and we are already in those autos.
Marginal magnetic fields of any type would have the ability to become larger if that same marginal magnetic field passed by any other magnetic field with opposite poles because opposite poles attract. This applies to atoms, cells, molecules.
Displaced fields, transferring protons and electrons, etc.
Any technology that possible has the ability to interfere with Earths own Magnetic Poles would need additional parameters of magnetism because anything introduced like this would have the potential to destabilize the field creating a scattering effect of sorts and something else would be needed to be introduced to somehow
stabilize the field that is interrupted.
WE DO NEED MORE TECHNOLOGY'S AIMED AT SOLAR POWER RATHER THAN AWAY FROM SOLAR POWER.
and bECK
TOO MUCH HEAT UPSETS THE SUGARS, THE GLUCOSE THAT EACH AND EVERY LIVING MICRO ORGANISM INCLUDING US HUMANS NEED TO SURVIVE.
And if we radiate infrared then maybe that is what is causing
DIABETES to be on the uprise around the whole world in only the last 10 years!
jayakar
27th December 2006 - 10:23 AM
We can harvest energy from the full spectrum of waves around us.
dboots
28th December 2006 - 12:39 AM
Jay
Which means they have moved many experiments that should still be inside the
boxes of the lab settings, and they have moved them already outside to attempt
harness all the energy around us.
And to harness these waves around us, means they must create a harness for it
somehow. Probably means they then have also moved some of their nuclear fusion
tests outside among us too.
Because to create a harness of this magnitude, the only thing they have created to my knowledge that could maybe harness the waves is some type ;of Tokamak that would produce toroidals of doughnut shaped magnetic fields if they were trying to harvest energy from the color sprectrum, I would think.
rethinker
28th December 2006 - 01:05 AM
QUOTE (dboots+Dec 28 2006, 12:39 AM)
Jay
Which means they have moved many experiments that should still be inside the
boxes of the lab settings, and they have moved them already outside to attempt
harness all the energy around us.
And to harness these waves around us, means they must create a harness for it
somehow. Probably means they then have also moved some of their nuclear fusion
tests outside among us too.
Because to create a harness of this magnitude, the only thing they have created to my knowledge that could maybe harness the waves is some type ;of Tokamak that would produce toroidals of doughnut shaped magnetic fields if they were trying to harvest energy from the color sprectrum, I would think.
Excuse me Jay, but have you considered the possibility of crop circles?
I have wondered if the possibility of hidden testing by those who could have access to Tesla's theory be testing the power of his discovery.
Nessus
28th December 2006 - 04:33 AM
The device would use Evanescent waves to transfer energy, which wouldnt cause any health problems considering it uses quantum tunneling.
prof. Jonathan V. Post
1st April 2007 - 12:32 AM
"..the enormous weight of all of that energy.."
Dude: E = mc^2. Lots of energy = insignificant weight.
Who are you going to believe: Physicists, or bus drivers and your lunatic neighbor who hears voices?
dboots
4th April 2007 - 08:15 PM
I am sure not going to believe Physicist Scientists who get their pay checks from
the same people of our government who are doing all these experiments
behind the backs of the American People. I don't remember signing up
for Taxation without Representation which is what is going on in my government
Prof Jonathan. And nothing in our atmosphere has insignificant weight. It shifts
it can be moved to the left and right. HAARP supposedly bulges the atmosphere.
Well if you create pressure one way, that displaced atmosphere hydrogen nitrogen
etc will be shifted away from that area that is being bulged, any old Professor will
tell you that.
Nessus speaks.
Yeah right. They will tell us what we what to hear to make believe whatever
device they are using has no ability whatsoever to harm us. Ever hear of a
tunnel collapsing?
Rethinker
Amen Brother. My common sense says most of those crop circles made over the
course of 30 years or more are them testing laser power and strengths. Those
8,000 satellites up their are not all satellites for remote sensing and watching.
And MIS
POLYMER AND SILICA'S SEEM TO BE THE META MATERIAL OF OUR DECADE.
They also seem to have magnetic properties that no plastic/polymer
composition should not have. Those magnetic properties in the polymer and
silica must be embedded for some reason.
And Garcier
Whatever the attempt, someone has taken the task onto themselves to
incorporate a heavy field of electromagnetic radiation into our atmosphere,
which basically is also our oxygen supply.
And per your statement of either omni directional or directed means you are
well aware they have the ability to direct this additional EM field themselves,
which means they can direct at us if they so please.
But the reality is this additional EM field is now surrounding this planet. Probably has something to do with their exquisite ability to control cold matter atoms, and
quantum experiment type tunnels, and weather manipulation of tornado's and
twisters. Lots of energy to be harvested from those beasts.
r mariya sahaya asirvatham
6th May 2007 - 09:19 AM
dear sir , i am really happy to share my ideas with you please give more details for to do my AMIE project
rmariya1@yahoo.co.in
dboots
6th May 2007 - 03:00 PM
RMARIA
WHO IS YOU COMMENT DIRECTED AT?
Garcier Michaeli LaCamppiello
7th May 2007 - 12:50 AM
RMARIYA1@yahoo.co.in
I would be glad to converse with you about the topic of "wireless energy transfer" and its association with the Tesla experiments. Would you tell me what the "AMIE" project isand how it relates to Tesla?
Romeo
13th July 2007 - 12:59 AM
hi, i want somebody to contact me because I am in a science project at the school and I want somebody to tellme how to transfer the energy.....Romeo J
thank you.
my mail is: ra_jq@hotmail.com
Relik
14th September 2007 - 12:59 AM
Question: were the experiments of Nik Tesla true? if it is, is wireless energy transfer really is possible, then why havent i heard any one doing exp/research on his experiments like they do einsteins' ??
Garcier Michaeli LaCamppiello
15th September 2007 - 10:20 PM
To Relik:
Tesla's inventions have been meticulously screened for feasibility and adaptation to many of todays wireless energy transfer applications without much success. Tesla did not show enough detail in his diagrams for the average engineer to recreate with any precision the wireless apparatus shown in pictures or general discussion in texts on the subject. As a result of this, the inventions mentioned have historically been diluted in detail and net worth in various written documents to the point that the average reader would only consider Tesla's works as merely novelty and without substance. This is entirely ludicrous as Tesla's works are all around us; from the AC motor, three phase power (most of Westinghouse's patents are Tesla derived), all the way to anti-gravity applications that you will not find in any text book due to national security reasons. It is true that his research documents were stolen by the US government at the time of his death from his New York apartment. There was not a legal custody transfer; merely theft. Though this took place, many scientists, engineers, and lay persons have tried and failed to create the apparatus(s) he described in his paperwork. His contribution far outshines the works of Edison, Maxwell, Oersted, and Gauss. He was a quietly spoken gentleman; unlike the boastings of Edison who derived fame from stealing ideas from sharecroppers and securing considerable funding as a result of such.
I hope this helps with your questions and possibly your continued interest in Tesla and his works.
Garcier Michaeli LaCamppiello
Relik
18th September 2007 - 11:37 PM
To LaCamppiello:
Sounds like you know a lot about the guy. 'n you're right, I am interested in the work he did. You have any good sites to reccomend? p.m. me
Garcier Michaeli LaCamppiello
16th October 2007 - 06:44 PM
To Relik;
An interesting source for publications on Mr. Tesla is "Lindsay Technical Books" with web site address Lindsaybks.com...send them a request for a catalog on the website and they will forward one to you quickly. Good reading!
Sorry for the delay in responding to your inquiry.
Regards, Garcier Michaeli LaCamppiello
yor_on
17th October 2007 - 12:12 AM
I'm not sure about what you say Garcier but i agree on that this is not what Tesla was doing. This kind of technology as far as i know only works at short distances, and involves rather strong magnetic fields if i remember right. KTH in Stockholm has been playing with it too and one of the researchers there said that it was nothing he would want to have in his home. I think i wrote something about it some months ago here. Tesla found something that gave out more energy than what he put in, to explain it he used the word 'aeter'. Noone has done his original experiments as i know of with his materials and technology. To say that it wont work based on the electromagnetic research we have now is absolutely correct :) As long as it wasn't as he said, more energy and in strange forms coming out from his experiments than he put in. If that is correct then it was a different phenomena he found and of course will not be explained by what we consider us to know today. So it would be nice to test it out from his own drawings (and materials they used then), one and for all. The American government that confiscated his papers should come clean on this. As long as they don't the questions will remain.
Relik you'll find him
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