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Toria
I have a few questions. I am a female and have wondered if there are many gay men who do not engage in anal sex? In other words, they are gay and are initmate, but not with that act?

Okay, my second question is, do youthink that HIV is manmade? HIV is most easily transmitted anally and through sperm, right? Even though anyone can get it, do you think it was designed to get promiscuous gay men killed? Kinda like a mass extermination?

The statistics show that IV drug users, prostitutes, and gay men get it more often. And I don't undrstand why women can be married to a man with HIV, yet many don't ever get infected... Is it because women having sex with an HIV man are not having anal sex with that HIV man,
Steveo
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I have a few questions. I am a female and have wondered if there are many gay men who do not engage in anal sex? In other words, they are gay and are initmate, but not with that act?


A gay friend of mine does not engage in anal sex. So I guess there is one. Thats all I can say for sure on.

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I have a few questions. I am a female and have wondered if there are many gay men who do not engage in anal sex? In other words, they are gay and are initmate, but not with that act?


A gay friend of mine does not engage in anal sex. So I guess there is one. Thats all I can say for sure on.

Okay, my second question is, do youthink that HIV is manmade? HIV is most easily transmitted anally and through sperm, right? Even though anyone can get it, do you think it was designed to get promiscuous gay men killed? Kinda like a mass extermination?


No, if it was manmade after a few decades of research a cure would have been found for sure. Since this is not the case I highly doubt it was manmade....unless of course it is some massive international government conspiracy wink.gif hehe

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The statistics show that IV drug users, prostitutes, and gay men get it more often. And I don't undrstand why women can be married to a man with HIV, yet many don't ever get infected... Is it because women having sex with an HIV man are not having anal sex with that HIV man,


There is this wonderful thing called condoms which can stop transmission of many STD's if used correctly. In North America, or Western Europe (I suspect your from somewhere in N.A. Or W.E.) this may be the case that injection drug users, prostitutes and gay men are infected more often, however if you look where the spread of HIV is the biggest problem, in Africa it is often between men and women. I don't know the exact numbers, but it isn't 100% for sure that if you have unprotected sex with an HIV positive person that you will contract HIV yourself. I don't know the numbers, but I am pretty sure it is less than 50% of the time. At any rate I think you are misinformed about the HIV virus and would suggest researching it a bit.
Kaeroll
I don't think it's man-made. I'm reading a book at the moment which uses it to illustrate divergence of species, and it explains that HIV is closely related to a harmful ape virus, SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus).
oomchu
There's a book titled "The River." It deals with the origin of AIDS. I haven't read the book, but I did see a documentary based on the information in it and it was very excellent. The basic premise is that HIV jumped species because in the search for a polio vaccination the researchers were using ground up chimpanzee parts.
NickFun
Ground up Chimpanzee parts? That's the first I've heard of that! But I have heard of it being everything from a man screwed a monkey to it being a diabolical plan by the US government to rid the country of gays and drug abusers. More than likely a man slaughtered a monkey and was exposed to the virus through the blood.
Moseley
What on Earth would cause anyone to post such a question on a science and physics forum. Or to join a science and physics forum to post such a question. Go and join a gay website or a sexual practice website - they are a lot more likely to give you a reasonable answer.
It beggars belief what some people put on these boards - I put up with the creationism/religion idiocy as it seems to keep them to their own section but I will not sit by and let the rest of the baords be deluged in non-scientific crap.
Toria - please tell me why you thought it was a good idea to join here and then post such a non-scientific question in the 'puzzling questions' section when in fact it doesn't puzzle anyone and is not technical in any way whatsoever.
I am not normally aggressive towards new members but I am getting sick of all the rubbish that gets posted here. Read the section at the top of the page '...are totally dedicated to science, physics and technology' so where does this question/inquiry fit in = nowhere at all.
I have to say I also hold the moderators responsible for not throwing this kind of tripe into OT or deleting it altogether
Forum is going to hell - I will not be around for long to see it.
Toria
It can be scientific--- I wanted to know leading scientists thoughts on if it could be man-made, and if it is transmitted easier through anal sex, and so if it were man made, then it would be made for targeting homsexuals?

And it is a puzzling question.

If it offends you, sorry, but I just don't understand A) why it spreads to some people and not others
and cool.gif why we haven't been able to find a cure.

I just thought some people would have insight.
GalCoolest
I was far more distressed at the nasty, judgmental, and unnecessarily holier-than-thou post Moseley made criticizing the "audaciity" (my term) of Toria's positing such a question around here than I would EVER be about that very issue, her issue, the posting here of an interesting and much discussed and VALID - despite being surely tangential to "LORD GOD SCIENCE/PHYSICS -IS-OUR-THING- HERE-HOW_DARE_YOU-TYPE-THAT_HERE opinionations!!!! Such a provocative inquiry seen to be viciously dismissed by what I opine are smaller brains such as Moseley's ,who operate under, DARE operate under, this blog, is a far scarier and unacceptable situation to me, period.

How despicably arrogant and feeble-minded (read:close minded) is that sort of attack?Regardless of one's delusions of one's own self-importance and/or confident self righteousness, is there nothing left of decency and generousness of spirit?

Truth be told, the laws of physics in every way are interrelated and illucidating somehow in absolutely every social, political, emotional, et. al. question we may have as human beings. Not being capable of 1) recognizing that, and 2) realizing the hubris and obnoxiousness of slamming as Moseley did, simply Further Illustrates physics also. Dark matter and Dark energy and Black Holes are as real in some hearts and minds as theorized to be out in the heavens. mad.gif
NickFun
I find it hard to believe that scientists would sit around saying "we need to find a virus that can be transmitted anally to rid the world of homosexuals". Then they managed to cover it up perfectly! How sinister!
board member here
HIV was promoted by a then paranoid gio ovement on the premise, that since blacks were populating quickly, along with Hispanics, that a false promise anti hepatitis B inoculations, would alleviate the problems associated, which regular herpes, that some gays had then.

This was a false promise and this was a full live, nonatenuaited virus, vaccinated into blacks homosexuals and gays.

What the then paranoid government did not realize, what that bisexuals cover both sides of the fence, so them being both sexually fluent with men and wimen, helped spread a AIDS to both sides of the Atlantic.

All primates, including man, carry herpes, in some form or another.

In mankind, its just in there and is registered at the base of the spine, as proven by records, of the Los Anglels County Coroners Office, on an asked survey of fresh deceased.

However this herpes, is not the kind that is AIDS.

Primates require many suitors, so a female chimpanzee, can have up to four suitors, all at one season, in order to drive her into estrus.

Mankind is by special tellings, a concocted creature, that is half ape and half more advanced contributed genes to alien.

He's been this way for millions of years, so in the physical, is a byproduct engineered species.

AIDS may have had its incipiency, in the 1950s, from some not known source, as there was one young child, who had died of AIDS like symptoms, however the doctors then, did not know what the cause of death was.

The aforementioned, is the AIDS introduction, which is currently a nightmare, as semi primate man, is intoned, to be partially pollyandus, as this is how he is founded in design.

Homosexuality is nothing more than a limited, based in natures deign, to where the hypothalamus, is either nonpresent, or markedly diminished.

Without this gland, men are not propelled to wimen and take residence with one another, as another man, since this individual does not have a normal setting, would be more understanding to his needs.

Men engage in anal intercourse, due to the autonomy index, of stimulation, being analogous to zero, as zero is a nonplussed factor, due to this man being a nonprocreator.

So since zero equals zero, then no one ever occurs, either plus or minus, as the recipient, is not based to be a nonalgebraic receiver.

So male homosexuals, are always based with each other.

Bisexuals, which where some basing has been in royalty, are based as ones and zero receivers, as their baseing is from the adjunct, that ones base to zeros, but never to minus zeros.

So bisexuals at times, are codependents, however spectacular lovers, of the opposite sex.

A male and a femlemale are ones, zeros and a plus minus zero, as the basing is not only different, but loving to the cause of a new procreation, which means that the math of ones and zeros, are based such as minus infinitums, which base clerically, to create and adjunct numbers, which collect to division.

So males and females can procreate.**Bisexuals not mentioned here, but they are ones, zeros and twos, in the mating sequence.

All a male homosexual is, is a pronouncement by nature, that a male is needed, or a male like object in the primary herd, however not a procreative male.

This has happened since antiquity, since primates have forspace alien genetics engineering.

** Genetic engineering, because of the complexities of ones twos and other possible combinations, cannot always be engineered out.

So making a better race by genetic engineering design, only mask the problem, as ones and zeros are always still requested.
NickFun
Very funny Board Member!
aaronoh
well, you see, HIV virus is not man made. There were a few assumptions that HIV virus started from apes. Man then ate the meat. That was how man got the virus. It was still unknown how the apes got the virus.

About women getting infected when married to man with HIV........ the women might get the virus of she has sex with him. On top of that, if she gets pregnant, the baby will get infected too. That is why the infected women would take a kind of pill to prevent the baby from getting infected too.

Chances of contracting AIDs when having a sexual intercourse is quite high. Hope this answers your questions. smile.gif
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