So i was recently recommended by a Doctor to reduce my beer intake and drink more red wine. I really dont mind my Shiraz Cabarnet, even the cheap stuff, so has anyone got any recommendations on safe amounts?
I would likely want to consume approx 1 litre per day (my equivalent beer intake).
A few years back, red wine was said to be good for you, then a year later they said it wasn't. Like most things it is OK in moderation, maybe a few small glasses a day but I would think a litre a day would be as bad as too much beer intake.
Put any form of alcohol on living cells and it will tend to dry them out. Long term as in years, it will do damage, particularly to the liver which tries to purify the blood which contains it.
What you doctor is saying is to reduce your alcohol intake, as in drink less beer. Try to avoid situations where you tend to drink a lot. If you spend £10 a day on booze, that's £3,650 a year. I'm sure you'd have a good use for that money.
Put any form of alcohol on living cells and it will tend to dry them out. Long term as in years, it will do damage, particularly to the liver which tries to purify the blood which contains it.
What you doctor is saying is to reduce your alcohol intake, as in drink less beer. Try to avoid situations where you tend to drink a lot. If you spend £10 a day on booze, that's £3,650 a year. I'm sure you'd have a good use for that money.
But the package store dealers have a better use for it. They pay the government to provide for your liver when you can't.
Damn, man, make your own! Steal grapes from your neighbors or something, and avoid the taxes.
Damn, man, make your own! Steal grapes from your neighbors or something, and avoid the taxes.
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If you spend £10 a day on booze, that's £3,650 a year. I'm sure you'd have a good use for that money.
"I spent a lot of money of booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. "
— George Best **
** millionaire English football player, subsequently bankrupt (now deceased)
"I spent a lot of money of booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. "
— George Best **
** millionaire English football player, subsequently bankrupt (now deceased)
Spend your money on resveratrol. It's the active ingredient in red wine.
Also, if you want to age more slowly, it's recently been discovered that white tea is like green tea only dozens of times stronger.
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Also, if you want to age more slowly, it's recently been discovered that white tea is like green tea only dozens of times stronger.
[Moderator: Anti-oxididant intake does not equate to aging slower or living longer. And resveratol people are far more interested in separating you from your money and ability to savor wine than they are in finding out what the actual long-term effects are on your health. http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/wellnes...0,1258146.story ]
QUOTE (wcelliott+Sep 26 2009, 03:50 AM)
Also, if you want to age more slowly, it's recently been discovered that white tea is like green tea only dozens of times stronger.
I like white tea. However, I call it milk.
I like white tea. However, I call it milk.
i would say 1 liter per day is on the brink of excessive.
Lipton sells raspberry-flavored white tea in vending machines on the left coast.
I should add that alcohol probably isn't a good idea if you're trying to live forever.
I should add that alcohol probably isn't a good idea if you're trying to live forever.
.... unless you pickle yourself..well at least your leftovers will last for a while 
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[Moderator: Anti-oxididant intake does not equate to aging slower or living longer. And resveratol people are far more interested in separating you from your money and ability to savor wine than they are in finding out what the actual long-term effects are on your health. http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/wellnes...0,1258146.story ]
Actually, how resveratrol works is open to speculation, whether it's an antioxidant or not may be incidental to its function, but it was first researched in an attempt to understand "the French paradox". According to the same nutritionists who tell us that every cheeseburger is a heart attack on a bun, the French ought to be dying at an even even earlier age because they have loads more fat in their diets than we Americans do.
They are the ones who figured out the major difference between American and French diets is that the French grow up drinking red wine like we do drinking soft drinks. They quickly homed in on resveratrol as the candidate for the difference, giving it to flatworms and extending their lifespans by 30 - 50%, then lab rats in a drowning tank where old fat rats on resveratrol fought to keep afloat as long as young fit rats without it.
That it works in humans is pretty well accepted by the scientific community, but not as an antioxidant, but rather it having something to do with enhancing the ability of insulin to burn fat for energy (still under dispute).
I first found out about it here on PhysOrg, not by listening to health food store hippies who don't know squat about nutrition (or newspaper articles written by reporters who don't know squat, either).
The main mystery isn't whether it works, it's why it works in doses that are small in comparison to lab-rat-drowning experiments. (For those with delicate sensibilities, they don't actually let the rats drown.) Resveratrol tablets may well make up the majority of Ray Kurzweil's 250 pills per day. In $1/day doses, you're getting more resveratrol than the French are in red wine, but less than the drowning rats per kg of body weight. I'd tell you where I get mine, but then I'd get accused of selling snake oil, so find your best deal yourself. (I also read about white tea here at PhysOrg in the last couple of weeks.)
I think the french eat much more healthy fats though, so I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. American fats in many diets are from fast food, too much red meat and other generally bad sources. The balance of your fats and absence of trans fat is actually much more important then the amount of fat.
I agree , In the university was some students from france , unbeliveable the amount of red wine those french students were often drinking
red wine chops me up pretty damn quick 
and out of beer or mixed spirits, wine is usually a much higher alc/vol concentrated drink.
and out of beer or mixed spirits, wine is usually a much higher alc/vol concentrated drink.
Was it a calorie thing?
In Europe , usually the people in the mediterranean area drink allways at lunch and at dinner plenty of red wine , I was a few years there and i was witness of this fact
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