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s0cratus
Why we cannot understand Quantum Physics.

The problem is that physicists draw the Quantum Physics
with ‘ math point-particle’ and therefore they ‘kill the picture
of ultimate reality.’
Of course, physicists know very well that the particle isn’t a
math point, but any another model of particle brought difficult
which they could not solve. Therefore physicists preferred
to think about particle as a structureless point
===.
At last from 1968 physicists decided that instead of a
‘point particle’ they will use ‘a string – particle’ and developed
‘ string theory’. The problem is that there are 5 or 6 ‘ string
theories’ in 10 dimensions .One theory is better than
other one. And they decided to unite them in one
‘ M-string theory’ in 11 dimensions.
This theory is still in a cultivation.
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So, now we don’t know what elementary particle is and
therefore we don’t have the Philosophy of Quantum Physics.
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Is my opinion difficult to understand , is it ‘an unintelligent garbage’ ?
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus

mathman
It is true that nobody really understands quantum physics. However it works extremely well, so physicists will keep on using it.
Mekigal
i thought it was like discrete incremental steps and when applied to a constant you can see the pattern of the incremental stepping with in the evenness of steps ?
Like one potato 2 potato 3 potato more . and the 2nd spot don't have any carrots but 1 and 3 do . 4 is the whole pot roast with meat in it and all but still no cabbage. 5 gets you some cabbage.

Little packets of quantums .

Like framing a wall or building stairs ?
Like if I was to skip every other step yet all the steps are still there just skipped by particular stepping where as the stepping is not the same as the steps them selves

s0cratus
QUOTE (mathman+Jul 31 2012, 11:08 PM)
It is true that nobody really understands quantum physics.
However it works extremely well, so physicists will keep on using it.

You are correct.
The quantum technology works very well,
but quantum philosophy works abstractly.
The question is from which point to start
in order to create clear and logical quantum philosophy.
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" Some physicists, among whom I am myself can not
believe that we should once and for all abandon the
idea of direct images of physical reality in space and
time, or that we should agree with the opinion that
a phenomenon in nature like a game case."
/ Einstein./

mathman
QUOTE (s0cratus+Aug 1 2012, 04:55 AM)
You are correct.
The quantum technology works very well,
but quantum philosophy works abstractly.
The question is from which point to start
in order to create clear and logical quantum philosophy.
=.
" Some physicists, among whom I am myself can not
believe that we should once and for all abandon the
idea of direct images of physical reality in space and
time, or that we should agree with the opinion that
a phenomenon in nature like a game case."
/ Einstein./

What is the purpose of quantum philosophy?
s0cratus
QUOTE (mathman+Aug 1 2012, 08:47 PM)
What is the purpose of quantum philosophy?

To explain the interaction between quantum of energy and matter.
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mathman
QUOTE (s0cratus+Aug 1 2012, 11:13 PM)
To explain the interaction between quantum of energy and matter.

You need to explain what you intend by "explain". Quantum theory does give a good description of the interactions between mass and energy.
humy
QUOTE (mathman+Aug 2 2012, 10:40 PM)
You need to explain what you intend by "explain". Quantum theory does give a good description of the interactions between mass and energy.

I am not an expert on this but I think s0cratus has got that a bit wrong.
To the best of my knowledge, the purpose of “Quantum philosophy” is not particularly “To explain the interaction between quantum of energy and matter” but rather it is to interpret the metaphysical meaning of the quantum equations as well as the metaphysical meaning of other quantum descriptions of how things are observed to behave.

I tried looking up “Quantum philosophy” and was redirected to “Quantum metaphysics” ( if you ignore “Quantum philosophy ( the book )“ ) and then redirected to “Interpretations of quantum mechanics” which said this about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_metaphysics

“...An interpretation of quantum mechanics is a set of statements which attempt to explain how quantum mechanics informs our understanding of nature. Although quantum mechanics has held up to rigorous and thorough experimental testing, many of these experiments are open to different interpretations. There exist a number of contending schools of thought, differing over whether quantum mechanics can be understood to be deterministic, which elements of quantum mechanics can be considered "real", and other matters.
This question is of special interest to philosophers of physics, as physicists continue to show a strong interest in the subject. They usually consider an interpretation of quantum mechanics as an interpretation of the mathematical formalism of quantum mechanics, specifying the physical meaning of the mathematical entities of the theory.
… ( continued ) ”

-which I think is consistent with how I would describe it.
keith*
That uncertainty can be organized with a delta sign, should be sufficient evidence any organizer requires, and a satisfied peace to continue their course unabated...
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