QUOTE (Trippy+Jul 27 2008, 08:02 AM)
Wrong, again.
The wave equation was derived to explain experimental results.
I now read book, that all quantum numbers was taked from head and not from schrodinger equation
Schrodinger equation is some rambling to match borth theory with experiment and so on, but itself it nothing solving!
Quantum mechanic is based on (unprecise) quantization and this all quantum numbers are taken from head and imagination and not have any proves about bigger atoms emision, which like deuterium is not actualy quantized, but have only some tendentions like radios to accept only some favorite frenquencies...
Quantum mechanic is based on (unprecise) quantization and this all quantum numbers are taken from head and imagination and not have any proves about bigger atoms emision, which like deuterium is not actualy quantized, but have only some tendentions like radios to accept only some favorite frenquencies...
Schematic view of the Hydrogen emission spectrum:
User posted image: User posted image
Actual photograph of the Hydrogen emission spectrum:
User posted image: User posted image
So emission spectra are in fact quantized, which requires quantum mechanics.
requires quantum imagination... Why you can't explain deuterium emision spectrum with quantum mechanic, why it is not quantized?!
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I don't like it, but possible that spin is actualy rotation electron in magnetic field and creating over magnetic field. Because if electron flying in magnetic field lorence force pushing he in some direction and then electron changing his flying direction a little bit and then lorence force acting diferently and becoming angular velocity and electron very slowly rotates and thus it's can explain spin! So Very possible that spin don't exist at all. But for gravity it still good to explain orbital and lorence force "spin" and this match with experiment that spin is twice bigger than angular gyromagnetic... So possible that rotating about nuclear electrons creating orbital magnetic moment, which going though protons and protons becoming spin and inducing this moment... And thus there is protons connection. Why exist helium nuclears without electrons? Maybe 2 electrons between 4 protons holding helium nuclear and then protons nuclears can't be created and neutrons probably also. Possible taht electrons are smaller than protons and thus there is 2 electrons between 4 protons in helium nuclear but it is good see that in bigger atoms nuclears there is more than 1:2, but somthing like 1.2:2... But maybe no, but realy why don't exist with say 20 electrons and with 10 protons nuclears? Then would be antimatter or somthing? OR waves just easier blasting electrons?
Maybe for the Crayola Journal of Physics. You still have no model, no evidence, no experimentation, and no equations. You still do not understand basic physics OR mathematics. Since you don't understand ANYTHING, you simply assume it's incorrect and make up some random bullsh*t "theory" to explain it all.
You're simply pulling things from wikipedia without even bothering to take the time to read them through.
But I am right
Okay, I finaly understood lorence force.
Say electron flying from you to display, and on table on which staying display is North pole magnet then will be this effect:
<---------------SSSSNNNN
<---------------SSSSNNNN
<---------------SSSSNNNN
<---------------SSSSNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
where quadrat is magnet and moving to left and down is big manget. You can try this at home and you will get lorence force! Also posible, that then electron becoming rotates about his flying direction axis but maybe not (at least magnet "wants" to rotate...). I was thinking in past to made train on magnets with this effect, where need very long magnet like shown down and over magnet puted like shown with force moving to left. But such train don't seems very efiecent or at least expensive and dangerouse if magnetic fielf will turn off and still need somthing to hold it or some whells or over magnets from both sides and maybe from upstair...
So yes, very nice trick. VEry nice. I am very surprized that lorence force is actualy simple magnetic tricks... But I think I little bit wrong picture give, need this:
<---------------NNNNSSSS
<---------------NNNNSSSS
<---------------NNNNSSSS
<---------------NNNNSSSS
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
but this don't match with electron model... Maybe realy lorence force is mystery... But somewhy very good lorence force maching with well model
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8896/lorenwheeleh3.png
EDIT: Hey, there exactly what's going on with magnets:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7302/lorenwheel2cv2.png .
The wave equation was derived to explain experimental results.
I now read book, that all quantum numbers was taked from head and not from schrodinger equation
Schrodinger equation is some rambling to match borth theory with experiment and so on, but itself it nothing solving!QUOTE
A rather salient point that you seem to have missed - Quantum mechanics is based in experimental observations.
Quantum mechanic is based on (unprecise) quantization and this all quantum numbers are taken from head and imagination and not have any proves about bigger atoms emision, which like deuterium is not actualy quantized, but have only some tendentions like radios to accept only some favorite frenquencies...
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| A rather salient point that you seem to have missed - Quantum mechanics is based in experimental observations. |
Quantum mechanic is based on (unprecise) quantization and this all quantum numbers are taken from head and imagination and not have any proves about bigger atoms emision, which like deuterium is not actualy quantized, but have only some tendentions like radios to accept only some favorite frenquencies...
Schematic view of the Hydrogen emission spectrum:
User posted image: User posted image
Actual photograph of the Hydrogen emission spectrum:
User posted image: User posted image
So emission spectra are in fact quantized, which requires quantum mechanics.
requires quantum imagination... Why you can't explain deuterium emision spectrum with quantum mechanic, why it is not quantized?!
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I don't like it, but possible that spin is actualy rotation electron in magnetic field and creating over magnetic field. Because if electron flying in magnetic field lorence force pushing he in some direction and then electron changing his flying direction a little bit and then lorence force acting diferently and becoming angular velocity and electron very slowly rotates and thus it's can explain spin! So Very possible that spin don't exist at all. But for gravity it still good to explain orbital and lorence force "spin" and this match with experiment that spin is twice bigger than angular gyromagnetic... So possible that rotating about nuclear electrons creating orbital magnetic moment, which going though protons and protons becoming spin and inducing this moment... And thus there is protons connection. Why exist helium nuclears without electrons? Maybe 2 electrons between 4 protons holding helium nuclear and then protons nuclears can't be created and neutrons probably also. Possible taht electrons are smaller than protons and thus there is 2 electrons between 4 protons in helium nuclear but it is good see that in bigger atoms nuclears there is more than 1:2, but somthing like 1.2:2... But maybe no, but realy why don't exist with say 20 electrons and with 10 protons nuclears? Then would be antimatter or somthing? OR waves just easier blasting electrons?
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 27 2008, 08:23 PM)
I now read book, that all quantum numbers was taked from head and not from schrodinger equation Schrodinger equation is some rambling to match borth theory with experiment and so on, but itself it nothing solving!
Quantum mechanic is based on (unprecise) quantization and this all quantum numbers are taken from head and imagination and not have any proves about bigger atoms emision, which like deuterium is not actualy quantized, but have only some tendentions like radios to accept only some favorite frenquencies...
requires quantum imagination... Why you can't explain deuterium emision spectrum with quantum mechanic, why it is not quantized?!
___________
I don't like it, but possible that spin is actualy rotation electron in magnetic field and creating over magnetic field. Because if electron flying in magnetic field lorence force pushing he in some direction and then electron changing his flying direction a little bit and then lorence force acting diferently and becoming angular velocity and electron very slowly rotates and thus it's can explain spin! So Very possible that spin don't exist at all. But for gravity it still good to explain orbital and lorence force "spin" and this match with experiment that spin is twice bigger than angular gyromagnetic... So possible that rotating about nuclear electrons creating orbital magnetic moment, which going though protons and protons becoming spin and inducing this moment... And thus there is protons connection. Why exist helium nuclears without electrons? Maybe 2 electrons between 4 protons holding helium nuclear and then protons nuclears can't be created and neutrons probably also. Possible taht electrons are smaller than protons and thus there is 2 electrons between 4 protons in helium nuclear but it is good see that in bigger atoms nuclears there is more than 1:2, but somthing like 1.2:2... But maybe no, but realy why don't exist with say 20 electrons and with 10 protons nuclears? Then would be antimatter or somthing? OR waves just easier blasting electrons?
Why do I waste my time?
The emission spectrum of Deuterium is quantized.
The emission spectrum of a deuterium atom is identical to that of a Hydrogen atom.
The differences in the spectra are in the molecular modes, the bending and twisting modes, and that's because the masses are different.
Schrodinger equation is some rambling to match borth theory with experiment and so on, but itself it nothing solving!Quantum mechanic is based on (unprecise) quantization and this all quantum numbers are taken from head and imagination and not have any proves about bigger atoms emision, which like deuterium is not actualy quantized, but have only some tendentions like radios to accept only some favorite frenquencies...
requires quantum imagination... Why you can't explain deuterium emision spectrum with quantum mechanic, why it is not quantized?!
___________
I don't like it, but possible that spin is actualy rotation electron in magnetic field and creating over magnetic field. Because if electron flying in magnetic field lorence force pushing he in some direction and then electron changing his flying direction a little bit and then lorence force acting diferently and becoming angular velocity and electron very slowly rotates and thus it's can explain spin! So Very possible that spin don't exist at all. But for gravity it still good to explain orbital and lorence force "spin" and this match with experiment that spin is twice bigger than angular gyromagnetic... So possible that rotating about nuclear electrons creating orbital magnetic moment, which going though protons and protons becoming spin and inducing this moment... And thus there is protons connection. Why exist helium nuclears without electrons? Maybe 2 electrons between 4 protons holding helium nuclear and then protons nuclears can't be created and neutrons probably also. Possible taht electrons are smaller than protons and thus there is 2 electrons between 4 protons in helium nuclear but it is good see that in bigger atoms nuclears there is more than 1:2, but somthing like 1.2:2... But maybe no, but realy why don't exist with say 20 electrons and with 10 protons nuclears? Then would be antimatter or somthing? OR waves just easier blasting electrons?
Why do I waste my time?
The emission spectrum of Deuterium is quantized.
The emission spectrum of a deuterium atom is identical to that of a Hydrogen atom.
The differences in the spectra are in the molecular modes, the bending and twisting modes, and that's because the masses are different.
QUOTE (Trippy+Jul 27 2008, 08:42 AM)
Why do I waste my time?
The emission spectrum of Deuterium is quantized.
The emission spectrum of a deuterium atom is identical to that of a Hydrogen atom.
The differences in the spectra are in the molecular modes, the bending and twisting modes, and that's because the masses are different.
Oh
I see, the diferent neutron number changing emision properties Thus all heavier atoms not quantized emissions possible to explain with diferent neutron number and molecules friction.
Anyway this quantization is not from schrodinger equation. They are from experiments. And schrodinger equation connecting/combining theory with experiments... From theory is laplacian operator and from experiment is quantum numbers Not stupid.
The emission spectrum of Deuterium is quantized.
The emission spectrum of a deuterium atom is identical to that of a Hydrogen atom.
The differences in the spectra are in the molecular modes, the bending and twisting modes, and that's because the masses are different.
Oh
I see, the diferent neutron number changing emision properties Thus all heavier atoms not quantized emissions possible to explain with diferent neutron number and molecules friction.Anyway this quantization is not from schrodinger equation. They are from experiments. And schrodinger equation connecting/combining theory with experiments... From theory is laplacian operator and from experiment is quantum numbers
Not stupid.
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 27 2008, 08:59 PM)
Oh I see, the diferent neutron number changing emision properties Thus all heavier atoms not quantized emissions possible to explain with diferent neutron number and molecules friction.
Anyway this quantization is not from schrodinger equation. They are from experiments. And schrodinger equation connecting/combining theory with experiments... From theory is laplacian operator and from experiment is quantum numbers Not stupid.
And still you miss the point.
I see, the diferent neutron number changing emision properties Thus all heavier atoms not quantized emissions possible to explain with diferent neutron number and molecules friction.Anyway this quantization is not from schrodinger equation. They are from experiments. And schrodinger equation connecting/combining theory with experiments... From theory is laplacian operator and from experiment is quantum numbers
Not stupid. And still you miss the point.
QUOTE (Trippy+Jul 27 2008, 09:06 AM)
And still you miss the point.
which?
which?
Okay, here is fine theory, why earth don't falling into Sun. Earth and Sun are connected through hotest point by temperature... So in earth poles amgnetic field is the same like in sun poles and so magnetic fields of earth and sun can be alignet or antialigned. Forget it... Earth magnetic field must flip toghether with sun... but if sun magnetic field flips, but still is not very preice and certain like here http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/images/s...rflydiagram.gif
then possible that don't matter of flipin of magnetic field there still is some domniation of some field and thus earth poles are antialinged to sun magnetic field:
SSSSS-NNN
Eearth-Sun
NNNNN-SSS
So this magnetic field flipings someimtes little bit pushing or less atracting earth and earth flying better in free direction and after some time earth again better atracted and thus it never falling into sun. Thus I explain how earth can rotates so long if there is resistance of bubleons about milions times smaller than air resistance. This resistance is compensated with sun tricks of magnetic poles fliping... Because Sun don't have very certain magnetic field, earth poles even if fliping, they don't doing antigravity.
Somthing similar probably hapening with moon. Moon don't have very certain magnetic field or if have then it fliping toghether with earth magnetic field if earth magnetic field fliping at all... Probably moon flying not very precisly about earth poles center and thus he is always atracted somthing... And since poles are not exactly at axis, thus moon also have probably some stronger magnetic field or anyway this is not very important... Generaly I explain that gravity is magnetism of earth, sun, moon and over planets... Magnetism is result of orbital, lorence force or spins magnetism... Humman on earth aligning to earth magnetic field, but since earth magnetism is much bigger and stronger than human, thus human magnetism is almost invisible and this explains why magnetic pointer of compas rotating according to magnetic field of earth and magnetism by gravity of magnetic pointer is not stronger than gravity itself because there is total magnetic field and field to which atracting pointer... If you standing closer to north pole then you legs are south pole and head north pole... And like say, total magnetic field is stronger than magnetic field of you and thus each compase can sense only total magnetic field, but not his individual or over small object individual field, because air also have magnetism and so on... And also this magnetic field can be too big, because molecualr orbits... And this magnetism at all on earth is very instable and changing toghether with molecules forces and if no planets then no magnetic field... So asteroids don't have gravity and magnetic field if there no around objects... Seems that only for macroobjects like moon, there is don't changing magnetic field and for human magnetic field changes and thus it don't ficsating compos... This is dificult, but seems possible.
then possible that don't matter of flipin of magnetic field there still is some domniation of some field and thus earth poles are antialinged to sun magnetic field:
SSSSS-NNN
Eearth-Sun
NNNNN-SSS
So this magnetic field flipings someimtes little bit pushing or less atracting earth and earth flying better in free direction and after some time earth again better atracted and thus it never falling into sun. Thus I explain how earth can rotates so long if there is resistance of bubleons about milions times smaller than air resistance. This resistance is compensated with sun tricks of magnetic poles fliping... Because Sun don't have very certain magnetic field, earth poles even if fliping, they don't doing antigravity.
Somthing similar probably hapening with moon. Moon don't have very certain magnetic field or if have then it fliping toghether with earth magnetic field if earth magnetic field fliping at all... Probably moon flying not very precisly about earth poles center and thus he is always atracted somthing... And since poles are not exactly at axis, thus moon also have probably some stronger magnetic field or anyway this is not very important... Generaly I explain that gravity is magnetism of earth, sun, moon and over planets... Magnetism is result of orbital, lorence force or spins magnetism... Humman on earth aligning to earth magnetic field, but since earth magnetism is much bigger and stronger than human, thus human magnetism is almost invisible and this explains why magnetic pointer of compas rotating according to magnetic field of earth and magnetism by gravity of magnetic pointer is not stronger than gravity itself because there is total magnetic field and field to which atracting pointer... If you standing closer to north pole then you legs are south pole and head north pole... And like say, total magnetic field is stronger than magnetic field of you and thus each compase can sense only total magnetic field, but not his individual or over small object individual field, because air also have magnetism and so on... And also this magnetic field can be too big, because molecualr orbits... And this magnetism at all on earth is very instable and changing toghether with molecules forces and if no planets then no magnetic field... So asteroids don't have gravity and magnetic field if there no around objects... Seems that only for macroobjects like moon, there is don't changing magnetic field and for human magnetic field changes and thus it don't ficsating compos... This is dificult, but seems possible.
People are not magnetic.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 28 2008, 01:11 PM)
People are not magnetic.
Yes, because they incoming in total field. For example if you standing on north pole closer, then you all are north, fussed with earth north pole... Thus all magnetic pointers of compas also are north pole and you can't detect was magnetism of people.
Yes, because they incoming in total field. For example if you standing on north pole closer, then you all are north, fussed with earth north pole... Thus all magnetic pointers of compas also are north pole and you can't detect was magnetism of people.
People physically cannot be magnetic.
And if I was all north at the north pole, I would be launched into orbit.
And if I was all north at the north pole, I would be launched into orbit.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 28 2008, 01:32 PM)
And if I was all north at the north pole, I would be launched into orbit.
Nature is wrong again...
Nature is wrong again...
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 28 2008, 01:32 PM)
People physically cannot be magnetic.
And if I was all north at the north pole, I would be launched into orbit.
No you don't because you consist of many south-north domens and thus you are like part of it and you in general is north...
And if I was all north at the north pole, I would be launched into orbit.
No you don't because you consist of many south-north domens and thus you are like part of it and you in general is north...
QUOTE (prometheus+Jul 28 2008, 03:05 PM)
Nature is wrong again...
Yeah, physicists sometimes can't see simple things
Yeah, physicists sometimes can't see simple things
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM)
Yeah, physicists sometimes can't see simple things
Like the fact that if I was a north at the north pole I'd fly into orbit?
Like the fact that if I was a north at the north pole I'd fly into orbit?
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 28 2008, 03:35 PM)
Like the fact that if I was a north at the north pole I'd fly into orbit?
You see, you consist of many atoms, which are like small small magnets and this looks in this way:
SSSSEARTHNNNN-SN-SN-SNUSN-SN-SN
Rewriting it it will looks:
SSSSEARTHNNNN-SSSSYOUNNNN
So you saying: "why the hell, there imposible to measure north or south pole in your legs or head?"
Well, because magnetic pointer in compas is also
SSSSEARTHNNNN-SSSSSSSSSSYOUNNNNNNNNNNNNN
splited into two poles like
SSSSEARTHNNNN__gravity__SSScompasNNN
but why compas don't still measuring south pole of your legs?
Well, it is because magnetic field of earth is stronger than magnetic field of your legs. You probably know, that magnets are much more concentrated in force, than gravity, because possible with magnets in specail shape to create levitation of on of magnets... So your legs are not so strong magnets like feromagnetics, which you can take from dynamics... So your legs magnetism is spreaded everywhere in legs and compare it with Earth magnetic field (and with natural magnets), your legs have very weak small density field, but big value... Thus compase observing only total earth magnetic field.
You see, you consist of many atoms, which are like small small magnets and this looks in this way:
SSSSEARTHNNNN-SN-SN-SNUSN-SN-SN
Rewriting it it will looks:
SSSSEARTHNNNN-SSSSYOUNNNN
So you saying: "why the hell, there imposible to measure north or south pole in your legs or head?"
Well, because magnetic pointer in compas is also
SSSSEARTHNNNN-SSSSSSSSSSYOUNNNNNNNNNNNNN
splited into two poles like
SSSSEARTHNNNN__gravity__SSScompasNNN
but why compas don't still measuring south pole of your legs?
Well, it is because magnetic field of earth is stronger than magnetic field of your legs. You probably know, that magnets are much more concentrated in force, than gravity, because possible with magnets in specail shape to create levitation of on of magnets... So your legs are not so strong magnets like feromagnetics, which you can take from dynamics... So your legs magnetism is spreaded everywhere in legs and compare it with Earth magnetic field (and with natural magnets), your legs have very weak small density field, but big value... Thus compase observing only total earth magnetic field.
So if gravity is magnetism, why don't people at the equator float off because the magnetic effects of the North and South poles cancel each other there? What happens hen someone from Australia, who presumably has North legs, visits Britain. Wouldn't his North legs repel the North ground and he'd end up on his head?
QUOTE (prometheus+Jul 28 2008, 04:18 PM)
So if gravity is magnetism, why don't people at the equator float off because the magnetic effects of the North and South poles cancel each other there? What happens hen someone from Australia, who presumably has North legs, visits Britain. Wouldn't his North legs repel the North ground and he'd end up on his head?
Exactly, one leg is north and one south... Half human is north and half south. Like in this diagram:
NNNNNEARTHSSSSS
NLEGNHUMANSLEGS
You can take very small magnet and put it to big magnet and you will see, that it atractings in all big manget surface with same streght...
Exactly, one leg is north and one south... Half human is north and half south. Like in this diagram:
NNNNNEARTHSSSSS
NLEGNHUMANSLEGS
You can take very small magnet and put it to big magnet and you will see, that it atractings in all big manget surface with same streght...
If half of me was north and half was south I couldn't move my legs or arms.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 28 2008, 06:27 PM)
If half of me was north and half was south I couldn't move my legs or arms.
Why? Your legs aligning with magnetic field in few nanoseconds or faster...
Why? Your legs aligning with magnetic field in few nanoseconds or faster...
Because north attracts south
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 28 2008, 06:49 PM)
Because north attracts south
You aligning like magnetc according to earth magnetism... It's like you are some type feromagnetic, which is in earth magnetic field and which alignation match with earth magnetism... Your magnetism changing slowly anyway if you going from north to south pole...
You aligning like magnetc according to earth magnetism... It's like you are some type feromagnetic, which is in earth magnetic field and which alignation match with earth magnetism... Your magnetism changing slowly anyway if you going from north to south pole...
My magnetism theory predicting, that on (exactly) Earth (axis) South or North pole, compas magnetic pointer must be atracted by magnetic properties Earth stronger than by gravity. Particularly this can be true even between north and south poles, when pointer is more aligning to earth magnetic field than to lissen gravity... But maybe no... Magnetism is prety dificult and probably there is some logical explanations why (if) magnetic pointer of compas is not alignetd and atracted better than human... Why magnets in North pole is not atracted bettwer than humans? Well, maybe magnetic field "N" is equal everywhere even at 1 km height and so there like everywhere is North pole and one magnet pole atracting it and one of poles pushing and thus magnets don't have bigger gravity in north pole. But humans and all objects, including magnets, are probably more like diamagnetics and going into total magnetic field and everything becoming noprth pole...
Here is scheme:
SSSSSSEARTHNNNNNN-SSHNNUSSMNNANSS, which equal to:
SSSSSSEARTHNNNNNN-SSSSSHUMANNNNNN and equal to:
SSSSSSEARTHNNHNNN, where H is human.
So even feromagnetics have diamagnetics properties...
Here is scheme:
SSSSSSEARTHNNNNNN-SSHNNUSSMNNANSS, which equal to:
SSSSSSEARTHNNNNNN-SSSSSHUMANNNNNN and equal to:
SSSSSSEARTHNNHNNN, where H is human.
So even feromagnetics have diamagnetics properties...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 29 2008, 10:12 AM)
SSSSSSEARTHNNNNNN-SSSSSHUMANNNNNN and equal to:
SSSSSSEARTHNNHNNN, where H is human.
Your theory is wrong, but this is also wrong.
SSSSSSEARTHNNHNNN, where H is human.
Your theory is wrong, but this is also wrong.
The human body is not ferromagnetic. There's barely any ferro.
Using "your" theory, David, explain why there is a bulge at the equator and why a non-magnetic moon influences our tides on Earth.
Thanks,
Ron
Thanks,
Ron
Water, also not ferromagnetic. Good one Ron!
Water and all over matterials are diamagnetics or paramgnetics anyway and I think possible, that magnetic field is hcanging rapdily and thus it sometimes some, sometimes over... It changing frenquency is trilions Hz and directions of field are unpreictable, so this realy nobody can to debunk...
Water is not any-magnetic.
Can't debunk? You can't even prove anything TO debunk. You're just running around making sh*t up.
Can't debunk? You can't even prove anything TO debunk. You're just running around making sh*t up.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 29 2008, 11:38 AM)
Water is not any-magnetic.
It is diamagnetic or paramagnetic... Any matter is diamagnetic or paramagncetic or feromagnetic... Diamagnetics and paramagnetics are just much smaller magnetics in magnetic field and they magnetism disapearing after taking from magnetic field. Dia and paramgnetics diferent is that one aligning with external field and over antialigning (possible some of they is just charged little bit...)...
Can't debunk? You can't even prove anything TO debunk. You're just running around making sh*t up.
Yes nor I can prove, nor you can disprove thus equal. My theory of earh magnetic with fast changing magnetic field is correct.
It is diamagnetic or paramagnetic... Any matter is diamagnetic or paramagncetic or feromagnetic... Diamagnetics and paramagnetics are just much smaller magnetics in magnetic field and they magnetism disapearing after taking from magnetic field. Dia and paramgnetics diferent is that one aligning with external field and over antialigning (possible some of they is just charged little bit...)...
QUOTE
Can't debunk? You can't even prove anything TO debunk. You're just running around making sh*t up.
Yes nor I can prove, nor you can disprove thus equal. My theory of earh magnetic with fast changing magnetic field is correct.
Here I have some theory, that spins of particles and atoms is charge of lorence force created magnetism... Atoms have diferent quantization levels, because they have diferent electrons number or are neutral. For example hydrogen have 2 electrons or don't have at all electrons and this makes his two quantizations (yes then hydrogen with electron almost is not emited due some physical resons probably).
Here explanation http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9633/orbitmus0.png .
Say electron or proton flying in magnetic field, then he slowly changing direction due to lorence force and then he becomes rotates and thus creating some 'lorence force magnetic moment'... This magnetic moment then pushing particle and this is quantization. Proton and electorn thus have diferent quantizations. Is this deaf of this theory? Because must be same (two) quantizations? How I don't think about this previousely?
Ah, yes. Since two magnets atracting from two directions then electron just choosing one of them. Proton in magnetic field (with 2 magnets) should be in center always if magnets are not reversed. Electron also must be in center always if... Hey, somthign invent... If say magnets lorence force and atracting force always match?! Yes, I think about this and have it in head, but just forget for a wail (I am not robot, btw). So I have very fine theory of electrons, protons and atoms spins. Neutrons spins can be just early decaying or neutron into proton and electron and then detection of proton and electron respectivly with some same spins, but missleadingly to think that there was concidence not in time electron and that proton is neutron... Or neutron simply don't ahve spin or don't exist...
My this theory seems, very easy to check, but maybe physicists was so concentrated on quantum mechanic development, that such simple theory don't come into mind to them?
Here explanation http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9633/orbitmus0.png .
Say electron or proton flying in magnetic field, then he slowly changing direction due to lorence force and then he becomes rotates and thus creating some 'lorence force magnetic moment'... This magnetic moment then pushing particle and this is quantization. Proton and electorn thus have diferent quantizations. Is this deaf of this theory? Because must be same (two) quantizations? How I don't think about this previousely?
Ah, yes. Since two magnets atracting from two directions then electron just choosing one of them. Proton in magnetic field (with 2 magnets) should be in center always if magnets are not reversed. Electron also must be in center always if... Hey, somthign invent... If say magnets lorence force and atracting force always match?! Yes, I think about this and have it in head, but just forget for a wail (I am not robot, btw). So I have very fine theory of electrons, protons and atoms spins. Neutrons spins can be just early decaying or neutron into proton and electron and then detection of proton and electron respectivly with some same spins, but missleadingly to think that there was concidence not in time electron and that proton is neutron... Or neutron simply don't ahve spin or don't exist... My this theory seems, very easy to check, but maybe physicists was so concentrated on quantum mechanic development, that such simple theory don't come into mind to them?
So If spin don't exist then what holding nucleons or protons toghther? Well, electrons orbitings creating orbital magnetic moment, which due to molecules/atoms vibrations unducing protons of nuclear which then becoming to atract each over and so protons in nuclear actualy are very far separated ( like in this image http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hir...icroscopici.jpg http://www.physorg.com/news136127214.html nuclears are very big or they are bigger than think... ), I mean nucleons in nuclear are very far from each over possible and protons vibrating in one direction and over to fit with electrons magnetic moment and thus protons also are inducted by electrons and atracting each over like small magnets and thus it holds nuclears... So protons are heavier and thus all this rambling rotation about them going about protons and not about electrons, which easily can be blasted by electromagnetic waves or charges... Thus then in atoms going on real rambling of bullshit which almost unpredictibale and anyway I don't believe, that atom exact working will ever be understooded, because there is so much newton physics, which probably to hard even for supercomputer for precise properties and also smallest spheres are not infinity small and thus there is some structure of them and protons and electrons size also probably not very ideal sphere, but almost... Some schrodinger equation maybe somthing very roughly can solve and explain atom with some quantum numbers, but this almost the same as to explain with god. God create atoms with such properties which you observe experimentaly and you don't know more...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 29 2008, 07:31 AM)
Yes nor I can prove, nor you can disprove thus equal. My theory of earh magnetic with fast changing magnetic field is correct.
No it's not! By that same logic my universe made up of powdered unicorn horn is correct.
No it's not! By that same logic my universe made up of powdered unicorn horn is correct.
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 29 2008, 07:31 AM)
It is diamagnetic or paramagnetic... Any matter is diamagnetic or paramagncetic or feromagnetic... Diamagnetics and paramagnetics are just much smaller magnetics in magnetic field and they magnetism disapearing after taking from magnetic field. Dia and paramgnetics diferent is that one aligning with external field and over antialigning (possible some of they is just charged little bit...)..
Diamagnetism is a field in opposition of a magnetic field. If humans were generating such a field of the magnitude you're suggesting, we would all be floating. Additionally, the experiment that levitated a frog was generated with a magnetic field of 16 Teslas. The Earth's magnetic field is roughly 30 MICROteslas. That's roughly a 533,000 order of magnitude difference.
Paramagnetism, which is an attraction applies to a very small spectrum of materials, and human is not one of them. Paramagnetic force is exceedingly weak, and would not be sufficient to hold a human to the surface of the Earth because, again, the Earth's magnetic field is roughly 30 microteslas.
So there you go, debunked.
Diamagnetism is a field in opposition of a magnetic field. If humans were generating such a field of the magnitude you're suggesting, we would all be floating. Additionally, the experiment that levitated a frog was generated with a magnetic field of 16 Teslas. The Earth's magnetic field is roughly 30 MICROteslas. That's roughly a 533,000 order of magnitude difference.
Paramagnetism, which is an attraction applies to a very small spectrum of materials, and human is not one of them. Paramagnetic force is exceedingly weak, and would not be sufficient to hold a human to the surface of the Earth because, again, the Earth's magnetic field is roughly 30 microteslas.
So there you go, debunked.
No, I am not. I don't know well, this diamagnetism and paramagnetism, but even if they working oposit to field, ti don't mean, that they don't becoming amgnets and anyway... Molecualr forces can be nore dia nor paramagnetism and can be just some matching effect of alll molecules resonase of magnetism which fast changing. Thus you don't disprove my theory.
I hate this explain to cranks, but my atom model predicting that nuclear fussion don't exist and is imposible. Except maybe if deuterium fusing with hydrogen when two... No, I mean only if protons two fusing and between them is electron and then there is deuterium. I mean, fusion only possible by electron and proton. So there is very dificult processes, when protons rotations are induced due protons vibrations from thermal waves and orbital amgnetic moments of electrons, thus then protons atracting each over with they rotation magnetic moments... So in Sun can be or 1/10^6 % fussion reactions energy or 1 % chemical reactions and rambling of atoms... So why can't be right second model?
Hydrogen bomb then very possible it's hard to predict, but I more tend to think that fussion bomb is fake and it is only 30 times stronger explotion than without fussion bomb... This 30 times bigger or smaller I think is prety hard to establish. With radiation? No, because it's don' radiating With visual amortization of wave? No. With wave created on ground? Yes, but earth wave ground as I said depending on ehight. Imagine that there is small infinity small point of expoltion source. If at 10 meter distance explotion say is 10 times stronger tahn at 1 meter distance. Then at 1000 meters distance expliotion is 1000 times weaker than at 1 meter distance and 100 times weaker than at 10 metters distance. At 10000 meters explotion is 10000 times weaker than at 1 meter distance. So if bomb exploded was 10 times closer to me then at 10000 meters distance I will feel 10 times stronger explotion. So enough only 33^0.5=5.7 times closer to explode bomb to earth and will be 33 times bigger boom. I mean only about 10 meters closer to explode bomb and will be 10-100 times stronger ground wave of explotion and detection! You can say, that still most energy will go to earth, but still... So I would say that nuclear fussion is imposible at all and nuclear fussion reactors don't get any results of fussion except like plasma... Even if it is possible (in sun or bomb) imposible to prove that it exist. Also seems anyway it will radiate particles and gamma rays and are almost equaly dangerouse like nuclear fission... And BTW, nuclear reactors are almost don't dangerouse, because if they exploding due to uncontroled reaction, then all spherical biomass, becoming not so and all refelctors disapering and so on and was exploding only very small amount of uranium, because no presure in few words... So thats why in chernobyl reactor there is explotion only like fews tons trotile or smaller, because there explode only very small part of uranium-235, possible that not about 1-100% like in nuclear bomb, but some 0.0000000000001%. So nuclear reactor explotion stoping farther explotion or uranium, because no more conditions for explotion and explotion radius is not more than 10-100 meters. But only radiactive uranium is in air, which in big doses is dangerouse and probably there moer important mask on head, than gamma radiation... Also possible that in explotion moment there was radiated prety big dose of gamma rays, which is dangerouse only in small radius, but maybe it's all uranium flying in air atoms foult...
Hydrogen bomb then very possible it's hard to predict, but I more tend to think that fussion bomb is fake and it is only 30 times stronger explotion than without fussion bomb... This 30 times bigger or smaller I think is prety hard to establish. With radiation? No, because it's don' radiating
With visual amortization of wave? No. With wave created on ground? Yes, but earth wave ground as I said depending on ehight. Imagine that there is small infinity small point of expoltion source. If at 10 meter distance explotion say is 10 times stronger tahn at 1 meter distance. Then at 1000 meters distance expliotion is 1000 times weaker than at 1 meter distance and 100 times weaker than at 10 metters distance. At 10000 meters explotion is 10000 times weaker than at 1 meter distance. So if bomb exploded was 10 times closer to me then at 10000 meters distance I will feel 10 times stronger explotion. So enough only 33^0.5=5.7 times closer to explode bomb to earth and will be 33 times bigger boom. I mean only about 10 meters closer to explode bomb and will be 10-100 times stronger ground wave of explotion and detection! You can say, that still most energy will go to earth, but still... So I would say that nuclear fussion is imposible at all and nuclear fussion reactors don't get any results of fussion except like plasma... Even if it is possible (in sun or bomb) imposible to prove that it exist. Also seems anyway it will radiate particles and gamma rays and are almost equaly dangerouse like nuclear fission... And BTW, nuclear reactors are almost don't dangerouse, because if they exploding due to uncontroled reaction, then all spherical biomass, becoming not so and all refelctors disapering and so on and was exploding only very small amount of uranium, because no presure in few words... So thats why in chernobyl reactor there is explotion only like fews tons trotile or smaller, because there explode only very small part of uranium-235, possible that not about 1-100% like in nuclear bomb, but some 0.0000000000001%. So nuclear reactor explotion stoping farther explotion or uranium, because no more conditions for explotion and explotion radius is not more than 10-100 meters. But only radiactive uranium is in air, which in big doses is dangerouse and probably there moer important mask on head, than gamma radiation... Also possible that in explotion moment there was radiated prety big dose of gamma rays, which is dangerouse only in small radius, but maybe it's all uranium flying in air atoms foult...
50% prove that my lorence force circle orbiting can be right:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7463/lolenorbitbe2.png !
All incoming force are in center more concentrated... So this works with atoms, where is more than one particle inside like proton and electron. Possible it explains, why electron or proton spin is not quantized if it is alone, because then all possible depends on imperfections of lorence force and measurment... Like shown there http://rugth30.phys.rug.nl/quantummechanic...n.htm#Electrons http://rugth30.phys.rug.nl/quantummechanic...ies/stern10.mpg that electron spin is not quantized, but some expansion rambling...
So seems, like my theory don't have weak points? Except like atoms maybe are not ions like in my theory, but possible that in official theory there also is ions to explain "spins" 
of atoms...
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7463/lolenorbitbe2.png !
All incoming force are in center more concentrated... So this works with atoms, where is more than one particle inside like proton and electron. Possible it explains, why electron or proton spin is not quantized if it is alone, because then all possible depends on imperfections of lorence force and measurment... Like shown there http://rugth30.phys.rug.nl/quantummechanic...n.htm#Electrons http://rugth30.phys.rug.nl/quantummechanic...ies/stern10.mpg that electron spin is not quantized, but some expansion rambling...
So seems, like my theory don't have weak points?
Except like atoms maybe are not ions like in my theory, but possible that in official theory there also is ions to explain "spins" of atoms...
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 30 2008, 01:59 PM)
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2309/20079422ek8.jpg
Yes it is... Possible, that atoms rotatings many times in magnetic field and thus in center is stronger magnetic field created by rotation and thus atom flying and rotatings and atracted is by magnetic field from upsttair or dwonstair... Electrons maybe are too light and they rotations are too big or too small or smothing and they going to hell, or maybe becoming rotates in zy plane also instead xy only...
Yes it is... Possible, that atoms rotatings many times in magnetic field and thus in center is stronger magnetic field created by rotation and thus atom flying and rotatings and atracted is by magnetic field from upsttair or dwonstair... Electrons maybe are too light and they rotations are too big or too small or smothing and they going to hell, or maybe becoming rotates in zy plane also instead xy only...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 30 2008, 09:06 AM)
Yes it is....
Maybe for the Crayola Journal of Physics. You still have no model, no evidence, no experimentation, and no equations. You still do not understand basic physics OR mathematics. Since you don't understand ANYTHING, you simply assume it's incorrect and make up some random bullsh*t "theory" to explain it all.
You're simply pulling things from wikipedia without even bothering to take the time to read them through.
Maybe for the Crayola Journal of Physics. You still have no model, no evidence, no experimentation, and no equations. You still do not understand basic physics OR mathematics. Since you don't understand ANYTHING, you simply assume it's incorrect and make up some random bullsh*t "theory" to explain it all.You're simply pulling things from wikipedia without even bothering to take the time to read them through.
Why arnt we the judge of all things above and below...
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 30 2008, 02:14 PM)
Maybe for the Crayola Journal of Physics. You still have no model, no evidence, no experimentation, and no equations. You still do not understand basic physics OR mathematics. Since you don't understand ANYTHING, you simply assume it's incorrect and make up some random bullsh*t "theory" to explain it all.You're simply pulling things from wikipedia without even bothering to take the time to read them through.
But I am right
Okay, I finaly understood lorence force.
Say electron flying from you to display, and on table on which staying display is North pole magnet then will be this effect:
<---------------SSSSNNNN
<---------------SSSSNNNN
<---------------SSSSNNNN
<---------------SSSSNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
where quadrat is magnet and moving to left and down is big manget. You can try this at home and you will get lorence force! Also posible, that then electron becoming rotates about his flying direction axis but maybe not (at least magnet "wants" to rotate...). I was thinking in past to made train on magnets with this effect, where need very long magnet like shown down and over magnet puted like shown with force moving to left. But such train don't seems very efiecent or at least expensive and dangerouse if magnetic fielf will turn off and still need somthing to hold it or some whells or over magnets from both sides and maybe from upstair...
So yes, very nice trick. VEry nice. I am very surprized that lorence force is actualy simple magnetic tricks... But I think I little bit wrong picture give, need this:
<---------------NNNNSSSS
<---------------NNNNSSSS
<---------------NNNNSSSS
<---------------NNNNSSSS
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
but this don't match with electron model... Maybe realy lorence force is mystery... But somewhy very good lorence force maching with well model
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8896/lorenwheeleh3.png
EDIT: Hey, there exactly what's going on with magnets:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7302/lorenwheel2cv2.png .
QUOTE (magpies+Jul 30 2008, 02:42 PM)
Why arnt we the judge of all things above and below...
Because you too stupid...
Because you too stupid...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 30 2008, 09:53 AM)
But I am right
No, you're not.
Hey, there exactly what isn't going on with magnets. Your top view is partially correct, your side view is not. An electron will not go in a circle above the north pole of the magnet.
edit: I made a theory too, here's how it works for my theory
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7804/29608696nj0.png
you cannot debunk me, I am right, you are wrong
No, you're not.
QUOTE
EDIT: Hey, there exactly what's going on with magnets:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7302/lorenwheel2cv2.png .
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7302/lorenwheel2cv2.png .
Hey, there exactly what isn't going on with magnets. Your top view is partially correct, your side view is not. An electron will not go in a circle above the north pole of the magnet.
edit: I made a theory too, here's how it works for my theory
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7804/29608696nj0.png
you cannot debunk me, I am right, you are wrong
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 30 2008, 03:07 PM)
An electron will not go in a circle above the north pole of the magnet.
Yes it goes. It changing electron direction and thus changing magnetic field and it goes in circle... I actualy don't found nothing about this, but found some over interesting tricks, that electron flying into magnetic field becoming rotates
I think it becoming rotates only if flying at some angle and then lorence force taking this job
So or there no information about this or they (physicists) are wrong, because it must rotates, it must!
BTW, I analyize, that if proton and electron don't have charge, but if they only have magnetic field which rotates in diferent directions, when they flying, then it completly explaining protons and electrons atraction, because don't matter in which direction they flying they atracting each over and electrons pushing each over! Protons also pushing... And electron atracting proton, becaus it generating diferent magnetic field! Thus no need charge! Need over some properties, which I would call, "magnetic field direction generated by particle". What is more elementar "direction" or "charge"? I think direction is much more elementar! Thus electrons and protons don't atracting each over only in one case if they don't moving at all. At bigger speed bigger force magnetic atraction? I don't kow, maybe yes maybe no... For example, does lorence force strengh depending on electron speed? I don't think so. So then all is just perfect! Charge don't exist, but exist only magnetic field direction about particle if he flying in some direction! Isn't this is perfect discovery?
Yes it goes. It changing electron direction and thus changing magnetic field and it goes in circle... I actualy don't found nothing about this, but found some over interesting tricks, that electron flying into magnetic field becoming rotates
I think it becoming rotates only if flying at some angle and then lorence force taking this job So or there no information about this or they (physicists) are wrong, because it must rotates, it must!
BTW, I analyize, that if proton and electron don't have charge, but if they only have magnetic field which rotates in diferent directions, when they flying, then it completly explaining protons and electrons atraction, because don't matter in which direction they flying they atracting each over and electrons pushing each over! Protons also pushing... And electron atracting proton, becaus it generating diferent magnetic field! Thus no need charge! Need over some properties, which I would call, "magnetic field direction generated by particle". What is more elementar "direction" or "charge"? I think direction is much more elementar! Thus electrons and protons don't atracting each over only in one case if they don't moving at all. At bigger speed bigger force magnetic atraction? I don't kow, maybe yes maybe no... For example, does lorence force strengh depending on electron speed? I don't think so. So then all is just perfect! Charge don't exist, but exist only magnetic field direction about particle if he flying in some direction! Isn't this is perfect discovery?
So, Yes, I have seems perfect model how it is possible to simulate atoms and even unvierse! Give to particles mass, size, create proton and electron... Don't give for them charge, but for proton give magnetic field in one direction, when he flying and for electron magnetic field in oposit direction. Give magnetic fields of maxwell electromagnetism, give vibration of waves, which can push andgive little bit force for each particle and then they will create universe! So yes charge don't exist, but exist only diference of creating magnetic fields. For example electrons can't atract each over, because from left and right and up they each over pushing if going in oposit direction, but atracting if going in same direction. And the same protons with each oevr. And proton with electron atracting each over if going to each over, but they atracting actualy only if they moving and they atraction force is from side and they actauly never can bounce, because in strainght direction, they don't fiel any force nor atraction nor pushing force, but they very good fiel each over from side, when they flying. I probably will give images, than many words better...
Here atom atracting only from edges and never in straight and for atraction/pushing protons/electrons nessasary must move. If they don't move then no aatraction.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3087/magatomvx9.png
Fast particles probably weakly interacting, beacause they weakly changing direction to align with edges of magnetic field of over particles...
Here atom atracting only from edges and never in straight and for atraction/pushing protons/electrons nessasary must move. If they don't move then no aatraction.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3087/magatomvx9.png
Fast particles probably weakly interacting, beacause they weakly changing direction to align with edges of magnetic field of over particles...
If you're rapidly changing the magnetic field, you're inducing an electric charge. So either charge has to exist in your theory or your recent trip into magnetism land is a failure. Either way your "theory" is still wrong. You can't just cherry-pick whatever equations you want and ignore what they're dependent upon.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 30 2008, 06:29 PM)
If you're rapidly changing the magnetic field, you're inducing an electric charge. So either charge has to exist in your theory or your recent trip into magnetism land is a failure. Either way your "theory" is still wrong. You can't just cherry-pick whatever equations you want and ignore what they're dependent upon.
About what you rambling? Where no any electric field. There is only magnetic field and well, magnetic field rotation direction depnding on aprticle (proton or electron). That's all! electric field is 'iliusion' of magnetic field... I explain it in image, all should be clear...
There possible, that electrons rotates in one direction together and protons in smaller cicle also toghether in oposit direction and thus they like two rings rotatings with oposit directinos
Waves possible blasting electrons and this disturbing them 'harmony'...
About what you rambling? Where no any electric field. There is only magnetic field and well, magnetic field rotation direction depnding on aprticle (proton or electron). That's all! electric field is 'iliusion' of magnetic field... I explain it in image, all should be clear...
There possible, that electrons rotates in one direction together and protons in smaller cicle also toghether in oposit direction and thus they like two rings rotatings with oposit directinos
Waves possible blasting electrons and this disturbing them 'harmony'...
Faraday's Laws. Since you're trying to claim that everything everywhere is constantly changing its magnetic field, there would be an absurd amount of electric charge generated everywhere.
Do you know ANY physics?
Do you know ANY physics?
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 30 2008, 06:53 PM)
Faraday's Laws. Since you're trying to claim that everything everywhere is constantly changing its magnetic field, there would be an absurd amount of electric charge generated everywhere.
Do you know ANY physics?
I know more than you and I don't create anything new, but just remove charges, because they at all are unnessasary! Atraction of proton and electron is even without charges, but only with diferent magnetic lines/field direction, when particle flying. Particularly this explains why particle(electron) never can fall into nuclear, because even if it fall there if he will not move more then attraction force disapearing, but if he trying escape then atraction force again is turned on. And if particle balsting wave or some over particle is stronger or somthing, then possible to take particle from nuclear... Everything I explain in diagrams. This is excelent invention, because it living everything like was, but removing charge and electric field, because enough only magnetic field...
Do you know ANY physics?
I know more than you and I don't create anything new, but just remove charges, because they at all are unnessasary! Atraction of proton and electron is even without charges, but only with diferent magnetic lines/field direction, when particle flying. Particularly this explains why particle(electron) never can fall into nuclear, because even if it fall there if he will not move more then attraction force disapearing, but if he trying escape then atraction force again is turned on. And if particle balsting wave or some over particle is stronger or somthing, then possible to take particle from nuclear... Everything I explain in diagrams. This is excelent invention, because it living everything like was, but removing charge and electric field, because enough only magnetic field...
I swear you should be able to take DavidD studies at university, I'll teach a degree in it if anyone is interested. I'll start off by teaching you to translate the strange language used and find what is being said, then show you the failings in simple physics put forward by his posts and finally how to reveal these to others except DavidD himself who will put forward another incorrect theory in response.
No but seriously... buy a magnet?
Love you really,
SirS
p.s. "Check Spelling" is an awesome button.
No but seriously... buy a magnet?
Love you really,
SirS
p.s. "Check Spelling" is an awesome button.
QUOTE (SirShanson+Jul 31 2008, 08:58 AM)
I swear you should be able to take DavidD studies at university, I'll teach a degree in it if anyone is interested. I'll start off by teaching you to translate the strange language used and find what is being said, then show you the failings in simple physics put forward by his posts and finally how to reveal these to others except DavidD himself who will put forward another incorrect theory in response.
No but seriously... buy a magnet?
Love you really,
SirS
p.s. "Check Spelling" is an awesome button.
Youn now write, that I not good understand what you saying, whatever...
Yes, everything is by magnetism, including gravity...
Here is some image about possible atraction and pushing mechanism...:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9996/atrputo0.png
But mechanism probably is more complicated in real, but this seems don't madeing any dificulties for finding real geometrical-mathematical mechanism with some filters smallest spheres, bubelons and so on...
No but seriously... buy a magnet?
Love you really,
SirS
p.s. "Check Spelling" is an awesome button.
Youn now write, that I not good understand what you saying, whatever...
Yes, everything is by magnetism, including gravity...
Here is some image about possible atraction and pushing mechanism...:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9996/atrputo0.png
But mechanism probably is more complicated in real, but this seems don't madeing any dificulties for finding real geometrical-mathematical mechanism with some filters smallest spheres, bubelons and so on...
QUOTE (DavidD+)
Youn now write, that I not good understand what you saying, whatever...
Molecular forces are not relevant at all. Changing the magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates an electric current. This is a fact. If the Earth's magnetic field were constantly changing, the flux would constantly be changing and constantly generating electric current.
electric field don't exist.
QUOTE (SirShanson+)
I'll start off by teaching you to translate the strange language
Seriously sign up now guys, while there is still space.
Hehe,
SirS
Seriously sign up now guys, while there is still space.
Hehe,
SirS
The Earth's magnetic field is not powerful enough to act as a source of gravity, I've told you this a few times already.
Here just theoretical thoughts.
Possible, that nor electron nor proton direction don't exist and they also. Exist only some one type particles like ramblions, which then flying by pushed by wave or somthing, then creating sometimes magnetic field in one or somtimes in opsite direction. So there all particles have equal mass and no wonder, that electrons always have the same energy like protons or alpha particles or atoms a few MeV. So I found interesting thing that according to official theory faster particle less time interacting with magnetic field and going into some side less, than slower particle because, what is ridiculouse accirding to my theory and slower and faster particle should in magnetic field go into some side by same amount, because faster particle have stronger rotating (magnetic) field. Thus mass calulation was wrong! So ions is lighter by one "proton"! So I was thinking, that possible to create atom even if there is only one type particles, which I call 'ramblions'. Ramblions if completly loosing they speed, then again can become rotates in any (random) direction creating magnetic field. Thus, what I can say? We don't know nor those ramblions mass, nor size and almost nothign we know about atom... But do you imagine how then my model simple is? Only one some concentrated smallest spheres between bubleons "particle" and thats all, this is ramblion! So then everything is so simple it like pushing some toy and it rotates and thus somthing similar with ramblions, but it rotates only in random direction. Of course there possible that is two types of ramblions like electron type and proton, but somewhy I mroe prefere one type ramblions with random magnetic field creating direction. But maybe then ramblions should exist, between each 4 or 3 bubleons? Maybe ramblion between 3 bubleons is 'electron' and rablion between 4 bubleons is 'proton'? But no, except this describing initial direction of ramblion... So then possible, that there is some tornados of ramblions, where one ramblions rotates about over... But this seems little bit unrealistic, because ramblions should go allmost without resistance of bubleons, ecept if over ramblions becoming in motion if they at all becoming, if two ramblions field sinteracting. So possible that only bubleons interacting... Ramblions are then like filters... So all universe consist of bubeons and ramblions and ramblions are heavier, but they should be much more heavier and bigger than I can create from my imagination bubleons, so possible then, that bubleons are prety big and then gaps between bubelons are very heavy. Bubelons BTW, remind you, are many spheres, which creating another big not ideal sphere with vacum inside... Small bubleons are unstabble or somthing,...
I now just guesing what can be universe. Seems, that at ramblions way can be over ramblions, but possible, that ever ramblions are bigger actualy and those gaps between bubleons are not ramblions or ramblions somewhy prefering motions only between spheres and somehow (not) going around over ramblions..or just ramblions are much smaller than bubleons and to meet over ramblion is prety dificult, but they bubleons are prety big and consist of prety big number of smallerst spheres like milions to trilions...
Possible, that nor electron nor proton direction don't exist and they also. Exist only some one type particles like ramblions, which then flying by pushed by wave or somthing, then creating sometimes magnetic field in one or somtimes in opsite direction. So there all particles have equal mass and no wonder, that electrons always have the same energy like protons or alpha particles or atoms a few MeV. So I found interesting thing that according to official theory faster particle less time interacting with magnetic field and going into some side less, than slower particle because, what is ridiculouse accirding to my theory and slower and faster particle should in magnetic field go into some side by same amount, because faster particle have stronger rotating (magnetic) field. Thus mass calulation was wrong! So ions is lighter by one "proton"! So I was thinking, that possible to create atom even if there is only one type particles, which I call 'ramblions'. Ramblions if completly loosing they speed, then again can become rotates in any (random) direction creating magnetic field. Thus, what I can say? We don't know nor those ramblions mass, nor size and almost nothign we know about atom... But do you imagine how then my model simple is? Only one some concentrated smallest spheres between bubleons "particle" and thats all, this is ramblion! So then everything is so simple it like pushing some toy and it rotates and thus somthing similar with ramblions, but it rotates only in random direction. Of course there possible that is two types of ramblions like electron type and proton, but somewhy I mroe prefere one type ramblions with random magnetic field creating direction. But maybe then ramblions should exist, between each 4 or 3 bubleons? Maybe ramblion between 3 bubleons is 'electron' and rablion between 4 bubleons is 'proton'? But no, except this describing initial direction of ramblion... So then possible, that there is some tornados of ramblions, where one ramblions rotates about over... But this seems little bit unrealistic, because ramblions should go allmost without resistance of bubleons, ecept if over ramblions becoming in motion if they at all becoming, if two ramblions field sinteracting. So possible that only bubleons interacting... Ramblions are then like filters... So all universe consist of bubeons and ramblions and ramblions are heavier, but they should be much more heavier and bigger than I can create from my imagination bubleons, so possible then, that bubleons are prety big and then gaps between bubelons are very heavy. Bubelons BTW, remind you, are many spheres, which creating another big not ideal sphere with vacum inside... Small bubleons are unstabble or somthing,...
I now just guesing what can be universe. Seems, that at ramblions way can be over ramblions, but possible, that ever ramblions are bigger actualy and those gaps between bubleons are not ramblions or ramblions somewhy prefering motions only between spheres and somehow (not) going around over ramblions..or just ramblions are much smaller than bubleons and to meet over ramblion is prety dificult, but they bubleons are prety big and consist of prety big number of smallerst spheres like milions to trilions...
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 11:07 AM)
The Earth's magnetic field is not powerful enough to act as a source of gravity, I've told you this a few times already.
Yes, but I am now don't saying, that earth magnetic field is gravity. atoms and molecules fast rotating and creating some random field and how you think why this random rotations should be without minimum energy waisting..? They rotating and holds accodring to atomic laws moleculra then laws and then all this rotations are synchronized with any object, what creating gravity.
Yes, but I am now don't saying, that earth magnetic field is gravity. atoms and molecules fast rotating and creating some random field and how you think why this random rotations should be without minimum energy waisting..? They rotating and holds accodring to atomic laws moleculra then laws and then all this rotations are synchronized with any object, what creating gravity.
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Feb 28 2008, 01:39 PM)
No, some parts of quantum mechanics are hypothetical. The vast majority is not. The CPU in the computer infront of you is designed and built using sections of quantum theory, evidence that those sections work.
Absense of proof is not proof of absense. Noone has disproved the existence of God simply because there's no evidence he exists. And given the vast amount of evidence for the majority of quantum mechanics, there's even less reason to deny the other parts of quantum mechanics.
Because they are the invitable result of the axioms of quantum mechanics. QM has a handful of axioms and it predicts thousands of phenomena, most of which have been experimentally verified.
That's like saying "Why do an experiment to test a theory if there's been no experiment to test the theory?". Building a working quantum computer would be evidence that it works. And they have done. You've been shown evidence of such a thing. I've been to talks, from physicists researching the area, about how they've built quantum computers.
Quantum computers are the logical implication of the axioms of quantum mechanics.
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Absense of proof is not proof of absense. Noone has disproved the existence of God simply because there's no evidence he exists. And given the vast amount of evidence for the majority of quantum mechanics, there's even less reason to deny the other parts of quantum mechanics.
Because they are the invitable result of the axioms of quantum mechanics. QM has a handful of axioms and it predicts thousands of phenomena, most of which have been experimentally verified.
That's like saying "Why do an experiment to test a theory if there's been no experiment to test the theory?". Building a working quantum computer would be evidence that it works. And they have done. You've been shown evidence of such a thing. I've been to talks, from physicists researching the area, about how they've built quantum computers.
Quantum computers are the logical implication of the axioms of quantum mechanics.
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QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 06:22 AM)
Yes, but I am now don't saying, that earth magnetic field is gravity. atoms and molecules fast rotating and creating some random field and how you think why this random rotations should be without minimum energy waisting..? They rotating and holds accodring to atomic laws moleculra then laws and then all this rotations are synchronized with any object, what creating gravity.
You're starting to make less and less sense now that you're starting to realize that everything you say is completely wrong.
You're starting to make less and less sense now that you're starting to realize that everything you say is completely wrong.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 11:47 AM)
You're starting to make less and less sense now that you're starting to realize that everything you say is completely wrong.
It is completly right! Gravity is magnetic atoms properties to always align in most atracting magnetic field for all aprticles in general...
It is completly right! Gravity is magnetic atoms properties to always align in most atracting magnetic field for all aprticles in general...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 07:36 AM)
It is completly right! Gravity is magnetic atoms properties to always align in most atracting magnetic field for all aprticles in general...
The most attracting magnetic field would not be the earth. If gravity was magnetic all hell would break loose every time someone turned on an electromagnet.
The most attracting magnetic field would not be the earth. If gravity was magnetic all hell would break loose every time someone turned on an electromagnet.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 12:38 PM)
The most attracting magnetic field would not be the earth. If gravity was magnetic all hell would break loose every time someone turned on an electromagnet.
Gravity magnetism changings each second with frenquency THz or somthing and in random direction...
Gravity magnetism changings each second with frenquency THz or somthing and in random direction...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 08:09 AM)
Gravity magnetism changings each second with frenquency THz or somthing and in random direction...
No. If this were the case there would be an astronomical amount of current being generated in every conducting metal loop on the planet. Learn physics.
No. If this were the case there would be an astronomical amount of current being generated in every conducting metal loop on the planet. Learn physics.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 01:10 PM)
No. If this were the case there would be an astronomical amount of current being generated in every conducting metal loop on the planet. Learn physics.
Molecualr forces more important and thus gravity is not so strong... Now there rotates this current which don't exist and nothing is generated...
Molecualr forces more important and thus gravity is not so strong... Now there rotates this current which don't exist and nothing is generated...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 08:19 AM)
Molecualr forces more important and thus gravity is not so strong... Now there rotates this current which don't exist and nothing is generated...
Molecular forces are not relevant at all. Changing the magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates an electric current. This is a fact. If the Earth's magnetic field were constantly changing, the flux would constantly be changing and constantly generating electric current.
Molecular forces are not relevant at all. Changing the magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates an electric current. This is a fact. If the Earth's magnetic field were constantly changing, the flux would constantly be changing and constantly generating electric current.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 01:22 PM)
Molecular forces are not relevant at all. Changing the magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates an electric current. This is a fact. If the Earth's magnetic field were constantly changing, the flux would constantly be changing and constantly generating electric current.
electric field don't exist.
In none of my above posts did I mention electric field. Even if it didn't exist (which it does), it's still irrelevant to the fact that the changing magnetic flux you're suggesting would generate an absurd amount of electric current through every conducting loop on the planet.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 02:00 PM)
In none of my above posts did I mention electric field. Even if it didn't exist (which it does), it's still irrelevant to the fact that the changing magnetic flux you're suggesting would generate an absurd amount of electric current through every conducting loop on the planet.
Electric field and chage don't exist, how much times need to say this?
Electric field and chage don't exist, how much times need to say this?
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 09:08 AM)
Electric field and chage don't exist, how much times need to say this?
You can say it as much as you'd like, even if it was true (which it isn't), it's irrelevant to my point. Current (movement of CHARGE) does exist, it's powering that computer you're using. It also is irrelevant to the fact that a changing magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates electric current (this is called induction). The changes in flux you're suggesting would generate sufficient current to melt everything electronic ever made.
You can say it as much as you'd like, even if it was true (which it isn't), it's irrelevant to my point. Current (movement of CHARGE) does exist, it's powering that computer you're using. It also is irrelevant to the fact that a changing magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates electric current (this is called induction). The changes in flux you're suggesting would generate sufficient current to melt everything electronic ever made.
QUOTE (DavidD+Feb 28 2008, 08:54 AM)
Quantum mechanic claims that quantum computer must be possible to build, but unfortunately quantum computers don't working...
They do work you git. By the way, with respect to my other threads:(Don't interject with double dutch so silly that a sixth graded wouldn't ague with such a twit, let alone a physicist
They do work you git. By the way, with respect to my other threads:(Don't interject with double dutch so silly that a sixth graded wouldn't ague with such a twit, let alone a physicist
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 02:11 PM)
You can say it as much as you'd like, even if it was true (which it isn't), it's irrelevant to my point. Current (movement of CHARGE) does exist, it's powering that computer you're using. It also is irrelevant to the fact that a changing magnetic flux through a conducting loop generates electric current (this is called induction). The changes in flux you're suggesting would generate sufficient current to melt everything electronic ever made.
Chage don't exist and this flying particles atracted by over flying particles magnetic protperties creating another magnetic proeperties-incution of amgnetic field"...
Chage don't exist and this flying particles atracted by over flying particles magnetic protperties creating another magnetic proeperties-incution of amgnetic field"...
QUOTE (eyeque+Jul 31 2008, 02:17 PM)
They do work you git. By the way, with respect to my other threads:(Don't interject with double dutch so silly that a sixth graded wouldn't ague with such a twit, let alone a physicist
They can't work, because entanglement don't work/exist and because spins don't exist...
They can't work, because entanglement don't work/exist and because spins don't exist...
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 09:19 AM)
Chage don't exist and this flying particles atracted by over flying particles magnetic protperties creating another magnetic proeperties-incution of amgnetic field"...
Electricity is moving charge. You saying electricity doesn't exist now?
Electricity is moving charge. You saying electricity doesn't exist now?
Just a bowel movement post. There have been numerouse posts howeve whateve someone cliks onto my post is th most recent and i cant even read what the two most recent posters typed. open se'sa'me
quote excasa:(Electricity is moving charge. You saying electricity doesn't exist now? )
Now does that sound inteligent?
I mean to someone that understands the in's and out's of quantum?
Now does that sound inteligent?
I mean to someone that understands the in's and out's of quantum?
QUOTE (eyeque+Jul 31 2008, 02:30 PM)
Just a bowel movement post. There have been numerouse posts howeve whateve someone cliks onto my post is th most recent and i cant even read what the two most recent posters typed. open se'sa'me
Electricity is moving particle, which generating oposit magnetic field and thus atracted is by over particles with oposit magnetic field. Thus no need electrons and protons.
You will remeber my words: all quantum mechanic is wrong! Or unprovable at least...
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Electricity is moving charge. You saying electricity doesn't exist now?
Electricity is moving particle, which generating oposit magnetic field and thus atracted is by over particles with oposit magnetic field. Thus no need electrons and protons.
You will remeber my words: all quantum mechanic is wrong! Or unprovable at least...
If electricity was simply the motion of any random particle, and not the flow of electrons, everything would be conductive. This is not true.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 04:40 PM)
If electricity was simply the motion of any random particle, and not the flow of electrons, everything would be conductive. This is not true.
YEs, this is true. Somthing hear about valent zone?
YEs, this is true. Somthing hear about valent zone?
No, it is not true. Why don't you run off and try to power a light bulb with a battery and two glass rods. You can't make another post here until you do it.
Again(og'AIN')!!!! you have published something(FIRE)!!!!! {beter be right lol}LoOOOLLL kid haha ha lol
What did you write.
? Your ost are advetisted but un accesible lol. Like to joust but cant coz yo're not fiz published globally lol. YES YES YES we ar globalized published world wids. f' my willlie is trembling with awe lol noy, yours could vbe. specially since i have 2 thousand articles, , whilst noam has nothing but derog neg post tallies and youy? I don't even know why i'm attacking you, I shall stop, atack noam in retalliation, thaty a hell from hell of a ***
What did you write.
? Your ost are advetisted but un accesible lol. Like to joust but cant coz yo're not fiz published globally lol. YES YES YES we ar globalized published world wids. f' my willlie is trembling with awe lol noy, yours could vbe. specially since i have 2 thousand articles, , whilst noam has nothing but derog neg post tallies and youy? I don't even know why i'm attacking you, I shall stop, atack noam in retalliation, thaty a hell from hell of a ***
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 04:48 PM)
No, it is not true. Why don't you run off and try to power a light bulb with a battery and two glass rods. You can't make another post here until you do it.
You see there exist ions. PArticles which generating amgnetic field in one direction are traped inside particles which generating magnetic field in over direction and thats what is atom. If you will remove some part of this traps then there would be ions of atoms and this ions in big amount creating "positive charge".
So I saying that protons and electrons weight/mass is they same, but they creting magnetic field in diferent directions if they flying in same direction. Thus they atracting each over if flying in diferent directions. Tricky but simple.
Now if you would look to mendelev table you will see, that there can be iron and ions and "isotpes". Iron atom have 26 protons and 20 neutrons. Thus in real, this 20 neutrons can be either toghether traped "eelctrons" or simply iron atom have 26 "protons" and 20 "electrons" or visaversa... This good prety probably fits with my theory, that since electrons are closer to over atom then enough smaller they number to binds with over atom...electrons. But since iron atom in magnetic field have 9 "spins" quantizations, then this means only one thing, that there is 24 "protons" and 20 "electrons" for farther quantizations and this all 9 quantizations possible to get with 5 ions: 20:20, 21:20, 22:20, 23:20, 24:20. thus sciencists almost nothing know about atom and number of particle in it. And this assumption of 26:30 can be wrong wait, there 30 not 20! So tahts why 9 (5) quantizations! YESSS!!!! So there is number of protons 26 and number of electrons is 30 or visaversa, so there is such things: 30:26, 30:27, 30:28, 30:29, 30:30. This 30:30 don't affectings in magnetic field! All over have symetry and thus 4*2=8 and 8+1=9. Thus I explain with my theory why spins so much! Huh , concidence?! So proton and electron mass is the same!!! And electric charge and field don't exist!..
You see there exist ions. PArticles which generating amgnetic field in one direction are traped inside particles which generating magnetic field in over direction and thats what is atom. If you will remove some part of this traps then there would be ions of atoms and this ions in big amount creating "positive charge".
So I saying that protons and electrons weight/mass is they same, but they creting magnetic field in diferent directions if they flying in same direction. Thus they atracting each over if flying in diferent directions. Tricky but simple.
Now if you would look to mendelev table you will see, that there can be iron and ions and "isotpes". Iron atom have 26 protons and 20 neutrons. Thus in real, this 20 neutrons can be either toghether traped "eelctrons" or simply iron atom have 26 "protons" and 20 "electrons" or visaversa... This good prety probably fits with my theory, that since electrons are closer to over atom then enough smaller they number to binds with over atom...electrons. But since iron atom in magnetic field have 9 "spins" quantizations, then this means only one thing, that there is 24 "protons" and 20 "electrons" for farther quantizations and this all 9 quantizations possible to get with 5 ions: 20:20, 21:20, 22:20, 23:20, 24:20. thus sciencists almost nothing know about atom and number of particle in it. And this assumption of 26:30 can be wrong
wait, there 30 not 20! So tahts why 9 (5) quantizations! YESSS!!!! So there is number of protons 26 and number of electrons is 30 or visaversa, so there is such things: 30:26, 30:27, 30:28, 30:29, 30:30. This 30:30 don't affectings in magnetic field! All over have symetry and thus 4*2=8 and 8+1=9. Thus I explain with my theory why spins so much! Huh , concidence?! So proton and electron mass is the same!!! And electric charge and field don't exist!..
I told you not to post until you can make a lightbulb turn on using a battery and two glass rods. If your theory is correct then you should be able to do it. If it's not, then we never get to see you post ever again. I'm looking forward to you never posting.
Ions are charged, not magnetized. The lack of a few electrons is what makes them positively charged. The addition of electrons makes them negatively charged.
Ions are charged, not magnetized. The lack of a few electrons is what makes them positively charged. The addition of electrons makes them negatively charged.
All 'jew'you(math) young children should learn from this example of add-libbing a post. You little kiddies should have a file in `My Computer' called `Prepared posts', and they should be proof read corected to give maximum impact!!!. However when jousting with an idEodds in real time, then typos can be forgiven, like *** `mistakes{(B)wants=MISStakes)'
If you thing whatevet lol.
I'll be a shesen crapload tougher in the morning withought stimulants but with cutting edge, cut to the vone quips,
try your lur luck
Im not a young idiot like most of you.
Frankly most scientists have abandoned your inherent forum because of a shEbrew called NoAm-sarz, thats his brais , but its easy how you can confuse the two, there connected and smell like poo two
If you thing whatevet lol.
I'll be a shesen crapload tougher in the morning withought stimulants but with cutting edge, cut to the vone quips,
try your lur luck
Im not a young idiot like most of you.
Frankly most scientists have abandoned your inherent forum because of a shEbrew called NoAm-sarz, thats his brais , but its easy how you can confuse the two, there connected and smell like poo two
QUOTE (eyeque+Jul 31 2008, 12:23 PM)
All 'jew'you(math) young children should learn from this example of add-libbing a post. You little kiddies should have a file in `My Computer' called `Prepared posts', and they should be proof read corected to give maximum impact!!!. However when jousting with an idEodds in real time, then typos can be forgiven, like *** `mistakes{(B)wants=MISStakes)'
If you thing whatevet lol.
I'll be a shesen crapload tougher in the morning withought stimulants but with cutting edge, cut to the vone quips,
try your lur luck
Im not a young idiot like most of you.
Frankly most scientists have abandoned your inherent forum because of a shEbrew called NoAm-sarz, thats his brais , but its easy how you can confuse the two, there connected and smell like poo two
Can you just make one thread somewhere to ramble? Your useful posts to useless posts ratio heavily favors the latter. Though amusing, it serves no purpose and would be better contained in one thread instead of randomly scattered across the site.
If you thing whatevet lol.
I'll be a shesen crapload tougher in the morning withought stimulants but with cutting edge, cut to the vone quips,
try your lur luck
Im not a young idiot like most of you.
Frankly most scientists have abandoned your inherent forum because of a shEbrew called NoAm-sarz, thats his brais , but its easy how you can confuse the two, there connected and smell like poo two
Can you just make one thread somewhere to ramble? Your useful posts to useless posts ratio heavily favors the latter. Though amusing, it serves no purpose and would be better contained in one thread instead of randomly scattered across the site.
Aliuminium also match!
Here aliuminium. Aliuminium have 13 protons and 14 electrons. Thus if there is only 2 quantizations: 13:14 and 13:13. But since 13:13 is somthing else probably then there is only two quantizations, which is due to 13:14.
Silver atom have 2 quantizations, but have 47 protons and 61 electron. Why there only 2 quantizations then? Maybe they much bigger then?
Copper atom have 29 protons and 35 electrons and 2 quantizations, thus then this type ion exist only and probably quantization distance can be not equal, because atom is heavier...
Nitrogen have 7 protons and 7 neutrons(electrons), but have 4 quantizations, then possible or sometimes it is with 7:6, 7:8.
Here aliuminium. Aliuminium have 13 protons and 14 electrons. Thus if there is only 2 quantizations: 13:14 and 13:13. But since 13:13 is somthing else probably then there is only two quantizations, which is due to 13:14.
Silver atom have 2 quantizations, but have 47 protons and 61 electron. Why there only 2 quantizations then? Maybe they much bigger then? Copper atom have 29 protons and 35 electrons and 2 quantizations, thus then this type ion exist only and probably quantization distance can be not equal, because atom is heavier... Nitrogen have 7 protons and 7 neutrons(electrons), but have 4 quantizations, then possible or sometimes it is with 7:6, 7:8.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 05:17 PM)
I told you not to post until you can make a lightbulb turn on using a battery and two glass rods. If your theory is correct then you should be able to do it. If it's not, then we never get to see you post ever again. I'm looking forward to you never posting.
Ions are charged, not magnetized. The lack of a few electrons is what makes them positively charged. The addition of electrons makes them negatively charged.
Then turn on light and you will see that it will work.
Ions are atracting or pushing properties depending, does there is proton or electron - in which direction particle creating magnetic field.
Ions are charged, not magnetized. The lack of a few electrons is what makes them positively charged. The addition of electrons makes them negatively charged.
Then turn on light and you will see that it will work.
Ions are atracting or pushing properties depending, does there is proton or electron - in which direction particle creating magnetic field.
DavidD, proving your claim is quite easy. Make a lightbulb glow using a battery and two glass rods. You can't post again until you do it.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 05:34 PM)
DavidD, proving your claim is quite easy. Make a lightbulb glow using a battery and two glass rods. You can't post again until you do it.
This is not my physics,..
This is not my physics,..
Yes it is, you said that everything can conduct "electricity" because charge doesn't exist and everything is magnetic. If this is true you can make a complete circuit using a battery, a lightbulb, and two glass rods.
Hurry hurry, no more posting till it works!
Hurry hurry, no more posting till it works!
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 05:37 PM)
Yes it is, you said that everything can conduct "electricity" because charge doesn't exist and everything is magnetic. If this is true you can make a complete circuit using a battery, a lightbulb, and two glass rods.
Hurry hurry, no more posting till it works!
I don't understand you...
Au have 79 protons and 118 electron. And Aurum have 2 quantizations. Then possible that there exist only this type of ion and over ions with one/two electrons less or more almost don't changing quantization line of this heavy atom...
Oxygen have 8 protons and 8 electrons(neutrons) so this means, that in stern-gerlach experiment there is 2 ions (and one normal), because have O 5 quantizations of "spin". So this can be: 8:8, 8:7, 8:9 - this creates 5 quantizations of oxygen!
Cobalt (Co) have 27 protons and 32 electrons. And Co have 10 quantizations of spin. So this can be in ushc way: 27:32, 27:31, 27:30, 27:29, 27:28 - this creates 5 ions - 2*5=10 quantizations - very perfect
Hurry hurry, no more posting till it works!
I don't understand you...
Au have 79 protons and 118 electron. And Aurum have 2 quantizations. Then possible that there exist only this type of ion and over ions with one/two electrons less or more almost don't changing quantization line of this heavy atom...
Oxygen have 8 protons and 8 electrons(neutrons) so this means, that in stern-gerlach experiment there is 2 ions (and one normal), because have O 5 quantizations of "spin". So this can be: 8:8, 8:7, 8:9 - this creates 5 quantizations of oxygen!
Cobalt (Co) have 27 protons and 32 electrons. And Co have 10 quantizations of spin. So this can be in ushc way: 27:32, 27:31, 27:30, 27:29, 27:28 - this creates 5 ions - 2*5=10 quantizations - very perfect
Here's a circuit diagram for you.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5364/51592882zo9.jpg
If it works, your theory about charge not existing, everything being magnetic, and electricity is really just magnets spinning or whatever the hell, is correct. According to your theory, everything conducts electricity, which is really just magnetism.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5364/51592882zo9.jpg
If it works, your theory about charge not existing, everything being magnetic, and electricity is really just magnets spinning or whatever the hell, is correct. According to your theory, everything conducts electricity, which is really just magnetism.
Here everythins almost fine with Mg atom, because it don't ahve quantizations and have 12 protons and 12 electrons. Thus no quantizations. And no ions...
Hg atom have 80 protons and 121 electron thus it should have some at least on big quantization, but it don't have. What is problem? Maybe too heavy? But how then over similar atoms have? I this now can't explain... Maybe then atom model is wrong? Mendeleve table is wrong? Or over explantion can be that inprecise some measurment or electrons are some traped toghether with protons in electrons shell and then it making neutral and actualy more protons... For example inside (nuclear) there is 100 protons and 20 electrons and outside there is 80 electrons in sheell. And this 1 electron can be some miscalcualtion, because Hg atomic mass is 200.592 and unclear does 200 or 201... 20 electrons and 20 protons neutralayzing each over in nuclear and there remaining like 80 protons atom proeperties and 80 electrons and thus neutral atom Hg.
Hg atom have 80 protons and 121 electron thus it should have some at least on big quantization, but it don't have. What is problem? Maybe too heavy? But how then over similar atoms have? I this now can't explain... Maybe then atom model is wrong? Mendeleve table is wrong? Or over explantion can be that inprecise some measurment or electrons are some traped toghether with protons in electrons shell and then it making neutral and actualy more protons... For example inside (nuclear) there is 100 protons and 20 electrons and outside there is 80 electrons in sheell. And this 1 electron can be some miscalcualtion, because Hg atomic mass is 200.592 and unclear does 200 or 201... 20 electrons and 20 protons neutralayzing each over in nuclear and there remaining like 80 protons atom proeperties and 80 electrons and thus neutral atom Hg.
Mercury does not have 121 electrons, it has 80.
QUOTE (me+)
Here's a circuit diagram for you.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5364/51592882zo9.jpg
If it works, your theory about charge not existing, everything being magnetic, and electricity is really just magnets spinning or whatever the hell, is correct. According to your theory, everything conducts electricity, which is really just magnetism.
C'mon DavidD, prove your theory. I gave you the experiment.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5364/51592882zo9.jpg
If it works, your theory about charge not existing, everything being magnetic, and electricity is really just magnets spinning or whatever the hell, is correct. According to your theory, everything conducts electricity, which is really just magnetism.
C'mon DavidD, prove your theory. I gave you the experiment.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 06:19 PM)
Here's a circuit diagram for you.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5364/51592882zo9.jpg
If it works, your theory about charge not existing, everything being magnetic, and electricity is really just magnets spinning or whatever the hell, is correct. According to your theory, everything conducts electricity, which is really just magnetism.
You wrongly understanding my theory.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5364/51592882zo9.jpg
If it works, your theory about charge not existing, everything being magnetic, and electricity is really just magnets spinning or whatever the hell, is correct. According to your theory, everything conducts electricity, which is really just magnetism.
You wrongly understanding my theory.
QUOTE (DavidD+Jul 31 2008, 01:34 PM)
You wrongly understanding my theory.
Here you stated that, according to your theory, everything is conductive. Because of this, you should be able to make a complete circuit using glass rods instead of wiring. To see that the circuit is complete, you include a small lightbulb. If it lights, glass is conductive and that part of your theory is correct.
Here you stated that, according to your theory, everything is conductive. Because of this, you should be able to make a complete circuit using glass rods instead of wiring. To see that the circuit is complete, you include a small lightbulb. If it lights, glass is conductive and that part of your theory is correct.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 06:46 PM)
Here you stated that, according to your theory, everything is conductive. Because of this, you should be able to make a complete circuit using glass rods instead of wiring. To see that the circuit is complete, you include a small lightbulb. If it lights, glass is conductive and that part of your theory is correct.
I wasn't mean this...
I wasn't mean this...
It's the same thing. According to your theory, everything is conductive. You admitted this (unless, of course, you were lying) in the post I linked to. The simple circuit I drew for you will validate this claim.
QUOTE (excaza+Jul 31 2008, 07:00 PM)
It's the same thing. According to your theory, everything is conductive. You admitted this (unless, of course, you were lying) in the post I linked to. The simple circuit I drew for you will validate this claim.
I nothing admit with you. You rambling bullshit, which nothing have to do with my theory.
Atom Na have 11 protons and 12 electron and thus have two quantizations, because is negative ion (or visaversa..).
Atom K have 19 protons and 20 electrons and thus have 2 quantizations, because is ion.
Perfect there.
I nothing admit with you. You rambling bullshit, which nothing have to do with my theory.
Atom Na have 11 protons and 12 electron and thus have two quantizations, because is negative ion (or visaversa..).
Atom K have 19 protons and 20 electrons and thus have 2 quantizations, because is ion.
Perfect there.
About whater and air, why water is heavier than air? Well, water molecule consist of O-16 and two protons and air consist ~80% of N-14 and ~20 O-16 atoms. So between those atoms no protons and thus air tend to push and water since have protons between is heavier and atracting...
As you see, hydrogen atom can'texist and all observed hydrogen atoms are protons. Deuterium is 1 proton and 1 electron, because electron mass is the same like proton. Helium is 2 protons and two electrons. Helium nuclear or alfa particle is 3 protons and 1 electron...
Neutron don't exist, because flying in one direction it should very rapidly push, but when pushing, becoming atraction and so neutron most likely don't exist... Or neutron is proton and electron atom...
As you see, hydrogen atom can'texist and all observed hydrogen atoms are protons. Deuterium is 1 proton and 1 electron, because electron mass is the same like proton. Helium is 2 protons and two electrons. Helium nuclear or alfa particle is 3 protons and 1 electron...
Neutron don't exist, because flying in one direction it should very rapidly push, but when pushing, becoming atraction and so neutron most likely don't exist... Or neutron is proton and electron atom...
Your so thick I want to cry. 
SirS
SirS
So, if electric fields don't exist, how do capacitors work. You can't "store" charge with a magnet.
DavidD look up states of matter solid, liquid and gas! You'll learn this when you get to the class for people aged just before double figures, there you will find the answer for your completely retarded question #782317.
Bleurgh,
SirS
Bleurgh,
SirS
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