Blackhole
Because a light beam travels with the speed of light, time is infinite and photons have therefore no weight, one could argue that when the time is infinite, particles have no mass.
MDT
Photons are unusual in that although they travel at the speed of light and should exclusively display only infinite time, observation demonstrates that photons also display finite time via a range of frequencies. For example, the photons of red light cycle every 10 to the minus 14 seconds, i.e., frequency.

The net result are photons exist both in infinite and finite time. If they only traveled at the speed of light reference, mass would stay zero like you said, but time would always remain infinite. This is not what is observed. A time aspect of photons, generated by photons, is expressed in a wide the range of time/frequency even as the photon moves at C.

I picture a photon with two legs, one standing in the speed of light and other standing in finite reference, acting as a liaison between the two stations. The C leg is particle and mass=0 while the other leg is a wave in space-time, which can display finite attributes even while moving at C.

Universal red shift slows frequency and increases time in the direction of the speed of light. The two legs get closer with C fixed.
Blackhole
QUOTE (MDT+Jul 29 2012, 01:50 PM)
Photons are unusual in that although they travel at the speed of light and should exclusively display only infinite time, observation demonstrates that photons also display finite time via a range of frequencies. For example, the photons of red light cycle every 10 to the minus 14 seconds, i.e., frequency.

The net result are photons exist both in infinite and finite time. If they only traveled at the speed of light reference, mass would stay zero like you said, but time would always remain infinite. This is not what is observed. A time aspect of photons, generated by photons, is expressed in a wide the range of time/frequency even as the photon moves at C.

I picture a photon with two legs, one standing in the speed of light and other standing in finite reference, acting as a liaison between the two stations. The C leg is particle and mass=0 while the other leg is a wave in space-time, which can display finite attributes even while moving at C.

Universal red shift slows frequency and increases time in the direction of the speed of light. The two legs get closer with C fixed.

Yes, I know, the phase velocity is higher as C. But that happens because the SRT is valid only in linear direction. The transverse EM wave moves as a whole is NOT in linear direction. If that were so, then an EM wave should be a line in the x direction and that is impossible.

The EM wave moves into the area in which it resides, what the "particles" field represents. There will be a "random walk" and it seems that the transverse EM wave do not obey the SRT, that seemingly, can move faster as C. Because in the area where the cross-sectional EM wave moves, is therefore the speed not larger than C
Overall, one can certainly argue, when objects travel in a linear direction with the speed of light, these objects have no weight and their own time is infinite.

For example, when a rocket would like to travel with the speed of light, its mass become even greater, simply by the fact that the particles of the rocket are subject to the random walk, so all particles of the rocket has to point in the x-direction of the linear direction of the velocity C.
In other words. when the rocket would like to travel with the speed of light, all the particles of the rocket should the "Random Walk" be disabled, and then mass weightless and the time is infinite . When the time should not be infinite the rocket should fall apart.

An astronaut in the rocket is an anomaly and can easily move into the rocket. The astronaut will not fall through the rocket, because then time has to run and that is impossible, because time is infinite.
waitedavid137
QUOTE (Blackhole+Aug 9 2012, 12:31 AM)
... The transverse EM wave moves as a whole is NOT in linear direction. ...

Actually they do. Whats transverse is the field vector, not the "movement".
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...For example, when a rocket would like to travel with the speed of light, its mass become even greater...

Actually the energy required for it to do this would be divergent because its mass isn't zero. Its mass however remains an invariant.
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