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WHY IS GRAVITY ALL ATTRACTION TOWARD EARTH?




Ever since that momentous time Adam’s apple fell on the lap of napping Newton, “simpleton” gravity has become intriguing, more intriguing, that up to now, gravity is ranked one of the eleven greatest (if not the greatest) unanswered questions in physics, according to Dr. Michael Turner, Ph. D. and many other physicists. Yes, why does the apple falls downward toward the center of Earth and not up to outer space? The following almost four decades of sleuthing finally dissects, like surgical knife, and unlocks the true nature and behavior of gravity.

Two phenomena, working together as one, are responsible “why gravity is all attraction toward earth?”, namely: (a)The attraction gravity of Newton, and (cool.gif The “no-force” space-time gravity of Dr. Einstein The attraction gravity of Newton is the making of the unerring Opposite Law, re-like repulse, UNLIKE ATTRACT, and is manifested in all matters in the universe. All matters, from largest to smallest, have opposite properties, re-positive and negative; north pole and south pole; protons and electrons , male and female, name it, and there are always two opposites. The space-time gravity of Dr. Einstein is the skein or fabric of just the whole outer space, and such spacetime is simply making itself felt by effortlessly weighing, pressing all over such suspended ball, called, earth, and other suspended bodies in the universe.
It appears that both the attraction gravity of Newton and spacetime gravity of Einstein work together, inseparably, as one, like two sides of a coin. There is not one slice of the spacetime wherein there is no attraction gravity, and neither is there one iota of attraction gravity, (re- particularly the extension gravitational field of earth), not completely enveloped by spacetime.

How was earth and gravity on earth created? It appears that from the beginning, re-the primordial emanation of dust, clouds of dust in outer space, the inherent Law of Opposite operated, re-the UNLIKE ATTRACT property wiggled, re-positive to negative, aligning, and bonding the emanated mass of dust which had inherent positive and negative property, such “unlike attract” property winning over the “like repulse” property. This is the attraction gravity of Newton.. The attraction, alignment and bonding were from all directions toward the center of the gathering mass, contracting, heating, and condensing, until a circular lump was shaped and solidified, called earth, formed some forgotten five billion years ago. Earth was shaped like a ball, just like other suspended bodies in outer space, because the tendency of suspended matter to solidify in outer space is circular ( a drop of water has been testifying for centuries).

But before, during, and after such Law of Opposite operated, space was there already existing, the space-time of Dr. Einstein whose matrix was curved as it caught earth in the making.. The ever presence of space-time, the whole outer space, which has skein/matrix, weighs involuntarily, all over suspended bodies, like earth.. The effect is like this: at bottom of ocean , 2-kilometer deep, lives unearthly-looking fishes, unaware of the pressure of the deep ocean; at the bottom of earth’s atmosphere is home to human beings who cannot feel the several kilometers altitude atmosphere; in like manner, all over suspended earth and other suspended bodies in space, is simply the wide open outer space, the space-time of Dr. Einstein, freely weighing all over earth, hanging with nothing to hang, in outer space, the direction of the effortless, involuntary weight was all toward the center .of earth.

Because earth is ball-shaped, slightly spherical, the strongest attraction gravity of Newton, re- unlike-attract alignment, is a straight line from one surface through the center of earth to the opposite surface, thus any surface of earth has strongest attraction gravity of Newton all downward bound toward the center of earth. Not to be behind is the equally spacetime gravity of D. Einstein, which freely, involuntarily. flexing its size and weight all over earth, the over-all combined effect is what is experienced on surface of earth , called “gravity”, all such combined gravity pulling and pressing evenly, toward the interior center of earth .

Some notes about the similarity of behaviors between Newton gravity and magnetism. Newton’s gravity , the weakest of the four fundamental forces of nature, is trillion times weaker than a magnet, but attraction gravity and magnetism have fundamentally the same positive and negative property of the unerring Law of Opposite.. By observing a magnet, the behavior of attraction gravity of Newton is unveiled: Cut, for instance, a bar magnet into half and cut further into smaller cuts, and each cut bar has positive and negative. Throw the cut magnet bars together and each cut bar will SEEK the opposite, re-positive attracts, aligns the negative, negative to positive. Arrange the cut-bars, one after another, the positive to negative to positive to negative to form one aligned cut bars, and always one end of the arranged aligned cut-bars is positive and opposite end is negative, and the aligned cut-bars is divided at the middle equally into positive and negative! Such, too, are the versatile behaviors of attraction gravity, with same inherent built-in intersecting positive and negative property of matter, the making of the governing Opposite Law of the universe...


When billions of tons of sea water on earth is being raised whenever the moon is overhead, this is the making of the attraction gravity of Newton, re-the gravitational fields of both moon and the earth locks, re-the positive-negative property of the moon, attracted, aligned and locked with the negative-positive property, respectively, of earth, (it also means that in that lock, there is electro-magnetism created that binds the two gravitational fields), but without the space-time gravity of Dr. Einstein, its unbreakable fabric, acting like super string, on which Newton’s attraction gravity tugs the earth and moon, there would have been no raising of sea water on earth, neither would the honeymoon between moon and earth last for long. When debates had prolonged whether the expansion of the universe can be halted and be pulled back to “big Crunch”, the concept is the attraction gravity of |Newton, the gravitational FORCE to hold and pull back the galaxies, but it is the unbreakable skein of space-time of Dr. Einstein that is being stretched and pulled. When light cannot escape in black hole because the infinitely contracted gravitational FORCE is so strong, the attraction gravity of Newton is referred, but it is the unbreakable spacetime of Einstein that catches and holds, like a bottomless hole-in-one trampoline, the super-heavyweight pint-size blackhole

Do the gravitational fields of earth and moon have electro-magnetic property that can be invoked? It appears that the attraction binding of gravitational fields of moon and earth implicates lucidly the existence of electro-magnetism, for only such electro-magnetic property can PULL and TUG the gravitational field earth and make ocean raised, meaning, the positive and negative property of moon binds the negative and positive property, respectively, of earth. It appears further that the universal gravitational fields created by the galaxies have electro-magnetic property too. What can create/invoke electro-magnetism? Motion, rotation, the hi-speed orbit and rotation of earth and the super-super speed rotation (2 million miles per/hr., more or less) of galaxies can create electro-magnetism, could be on the skein of space-time, just like rotation makes generator create electro-magnetism. The presence of Van Allen Belt, the millions of lightning that strike on earth almost daily, are evidences of the electro-magnetic property of rotating earth, a magnet, itself, with north and south poles. It appears to implicate further that electro-magnetic pure light waves, emanating from distant galaxy, appears to travel, propagate on equally electro-magnetic universal and local gravitational fields, to contact electro-magnetic human eyes and brain, as preserved, intact, whole, with all colors, sounds and movements (just like receptions in radios and TVs).

Why does a man falls down to Earth, like the famous “apple”, and not flies up to outer space? The immense joint gravity of Newton and Dr Einstein complement one another and work, as follows: The whole wide spacetime of Dr. Einstein freely crowding, flexing its weight on itself, involuntarily pushes its size all over earth while the gravity attraction of Newton pulls man (who has positive and negative, himself) downward, thus, both gravities work as one over earth and makes miniscular man all downward toward the center of earth. Thus, the familiar, off-repeated saying, “Gravity is all attraction toward Earth!”. Without the whole gravity of Newton and Dr. Einstein, no planet, nor star, nor galaxy would have solidified in the universe, neither would there have been existing living beings on Earth.

It appears the mystery that cloaks, for several centuries, simpleton gravity is finally torn and gravity, with all its glory, is at last laid naked....

(Taken and clarified from modest book, entitled, Three Treatises of modern Physics, re-“Search for vacuum gravity of Dr. Einstein”, “What is gravity?” (of Newton) and “What is light”, copyrighted 2004, as well as other revised copyrights 2007-9)

Jose S. Aldea
Chairman - Capiz Scientists & Inventors Society – Philippines
e-mail: jsaldea12@yahoo.com

Cc: Dr. Estrella F. Alabastro, Ph. D. – Hon. Secretary – DOST (efa@dos.gov.ph)
Dr. Graciano P. Yumul, Jr. - Hon. Undersecretary – DOST (gpyumul@dost.gov.ph)
Mr. Roy Donato – President, Capiz Scientists & Inventors Society (donato_roya@yahoo.com)

Posted in Advanced Physics Forums, April, 2009


Revised Philippine Copyright 2009
By: Jose S. Aldea
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jsaldea12

Thank you for your advice.

jsaldea12

5.19.09
jsaldea12


Does the gravitational field of earth have electro-magnetic property, as contented in this article?

jsaldea12

5.20.09
AlexG
QUOTE (jsaldea12+May 19 2009, 04:33 PM)
Does the gravitational field of earth have electro-magnetic property, as contented in this article?

jsaldea12

5.20.09

No.

Gravitation and electromagnetism are two different forces.
jsaldea12
Fundamentally, both gravitation and electro-magnetism are the making of the opposite law which states: like repulse, UNLIKE ATTRACTS. Nothing in this universe is not vibrating. Among the weakest vibration is gravity, the making unlike-attract behavior of the opposite law. Earth, itself, is a magnet, the making the opposite law, but of billion times greater unlike-attract force or vibration than gravity.. MOTION, re-rotation and revolution of earth actually activates electro-magnetic property of earth at gravitational level, just as rotation activates DC & AC generators to produce electro-magnetism at their motor capacity level. So far, no instrument can detect gravity on earth and its gravitational field that reaches and binds, for instance, with the gravitational field of the moon, but no one can deny that there is something that holds the moon to orbit earth, that raising of SALTY sea water on earth whenever the moon is overhead. The binding is due to the unlike-attract behavior of the opposite law, re-positive-negative property of the gravitational field of the moon is attracted and locked to the negative-positive property, respectively, of the gravitational field of earth. This is the attraction gravity of Newton but it is the skein or matrix of the vibrating spacetime gravity of Einstein on which attraction gravity of Newton utilizes to bind, like superstring, moon’s and earth’s. gravitational fields..

Jsaldea12.

5.20.09
AlexG
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Fundamentally, both gravitation and electro-magnetism are the making of the opposite law which states: like repulse, UNLIKE ATTRACTS.


In the case of gravity, LIKES ATTRACTS.

Have you ever actually studied any physics? Or do you just think imagination is enough?
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (AlexG+May 19 2009, 11:40 PM)

In the case of gravity, LIKES ATTRACTS.

Have you ever actually studied any physics? Or do you just think imagination is enough?

It's also worth pointing out that in the case of gravity: There is no known 'unlike.'
jsaldea12

Please read in physics on law of opposite..that also extends to gravitatonal fields, I may add. Evidence: the salty sea water on earth, conductor of electro-magnetism, is being pulled and raised by the electro-magnetic property of gravitational field of the moon. This electro-magnetic raising is attraction gravity of Newton, but it is the non-force spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein that is utilized in attraction and binding...

jsaldea12

5.20.09
RobDegraves
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Please read in physics on law of opposite


There is no general law of opposites in physics. There are certain circumstances in which there are equal opposites, such as magnetism, and there are circumstances where there is no opposite, such as lenght.

What is the opposite of length in physics?

What is the opposite of an atom?

What is the opposite of light? (if you say darkness, you don't know physics)

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Please read in physics on law of opposite


There is no general law of opposites in physics. There are certain circumstances in which there are equal opposites, such as magnetism, and there are circumstances where there is no opposite, such as lenght.

What is the opposite of length in physics?

What is the opposite of an atom?

What is the opposite of light? (if you say darkness, you don't know physics)

I may add. Evidence: the salty sea water on earth, conductor of electro-magnetism, is being pulled and raised by the electro-magnetic property of gravitational field of the moon.


So... your evidence is based on assigning to a phenomena the theory that you are trying to prove?

In the same vein... I can postulate that chickens are really small aliens from Mars and my proof is that they lay Martian Eggs.

You cannot prove something by using the theory you are trying to prove as evidence.... obviously.
Noumenon
Maxwell tried very hard to incorporate gravity into his electromagnetic scheme, but couldn't because gravitation cannot be formulated in terms of likes and unlikes.
jsaldea12
The opposite law states: like repulse, unlike attract. As a matter of fact, you cited a classic example of opposite law (not circumstances): magnetism with TWO EQUAL OPPOSITE. Read again the article, I have many examples there of opposite law, even you have opposite: male-female, yang-yin, etc. On light-darkness, light is electro-magnetic positive-negative property, atom has positive proton and negative electron., length has two opposite sides, etc., etc..

What is that force that raises billions of SALTY sea water on earth whenever the moon is overhead? Can we feel that force that raises such ocean?. No. But we know it must be of very, very, very gargantuan strength. Large bodies, of similar size, like earth and the moon, suspended in outer space, feel the infinitesimal, infinitesimal gravity that beomes that force because it is the whole gravity, repeat, the entire gravity of earth, for instance, that is rolled into one, just like strands of strings rolled into one has strength. Salty ocean on earth is conductor of electricity? It cannot be Dr.Einstein spacetime gravity which has no force.. But we know that gravitational fields of earth and moon are linked. Earth and moon are magnets, have north pole and south pole, a simple magnet will tell. Motion, rotation causes earth and the moon to activate their electro-magnetic property, (just like rotating generator activates electro-magnetism), such activated electro-magnetic that extend to their gravitational fields that has become conductor of such electro-magnetism. Repeat, that conductor of electro-magnetism on space is the gravitational fields…or simply gravitation.. Therefore, both gravitation and electro-magnetism fundamentally have something in common. Both are the making of the law of opposite.


Jsaldea12
5.20.09
RobDegraves
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The opposite law states: like repulse, unlike attract.


That's not a law of physics, it's just something you made up.

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The opposite law states: like repulse, unlike attract.


That's not a law of physics, it's just something you made up.

male-female


Some males are attracted to other males... so.. not a law.

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yang-yin


You might mean Ying and Yang... again.. not physics.

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yang-yin


You might mean Ying and Yang... again.. not physics.

atom has positive proton and negative electron


Hmmm... Neutrons?

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What is that force that raises billions of SALTY sea water on earth whenever the moon is overhead?


Gravity.

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What is that force that raises billions of SALTY sea water on earth whenever the moon is overhead?


Gravity.

But we know it must be of very, very, very gargantuan strength



The magnetic field of the moon has been measured and it's tiny. It has no overall magnetic field at all and only parts of the crust are magnetic at all.

Since we have gone there many times, this has been measured very closely.

Not only is your argument completely ludicrous but it's also completely unsupported by the overwhelming evidence. You might try some basic research in the future.
jsaldea12
Let me simplify how to reconcile gravitation and electro-magnetism.

If earth and moon are not in motion, not rotating, not orbiting……there is still their UNDENIABLE gravitational fields that bind the two bodies, (with due respect, though the gravitational field of moon is 6 times weaker due to 6 times less mass and also due to weak magnetic property). The important thing is that both magnetic gravitational fields still exist and locked, locked because the positive - negative property of moon is ATTRACTED to the negative-positive property, respectively, of earth. Now the earth and moon are in motion, orbiting and rotating, etc. and motion generates electro-magnetism, just like generators…such generated electro-magnetism that runs through the connected inherited gravitational fields which acts as conductor. In short, there is electro-magnetism, in stated GRAVITATIONAL fields in outer space, in gravitational vibration level, Thus, both fundamental forces are reconciled...



Jsaldea12
5.21.09
AlexG
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In short, there is electro-magnetism, in stated GRAVITATIONAL fields in outer space, in gravitational vibration level,


In short, you are wrong, and your post is simply gibberish.
RobDegraves
You should really do a little bit of research before you post.


You said...

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If earth and moon are not in motion, not rotating, not orbiting……there is still their UNDENIABLE gravitational fields that bind the two bodies, (with due respect, though the gravitational field of moon is 6 times weaker due to 6 times less mass and also due to weak magnetic property).


You are completely wrong. The magnetic field of the Moon is hundreds of times weaker than the Earth.

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If earth and moon are not in motion, not rotating, not orbiting……there is still their UNDENIABLE gravitational fields that bind the two bodies, (with due respect, though the gravitational field of moon is 6 times weaker due to 6 times less mass and also due to weak magnetic property).


You are completely wrong. The magnetic field of the Moon is hundreds of times weaker than the Earth.

The Moon has an external magnetic field of the order of one to a hundred nanotesla—less than one hundredth that of the Earth, which is 30–60 microtesla. Other major differences are that the Moon does not currently have a dipolar magnetic field (as would be generated by a geodynamo in its core), and the magnetizations that are present are almost entirely crustal in origin.


Seriously... if you don't know what you are talking about when dealing with basic facts, you really should not be trying to advance science.... you should be trying to advance yourself first.

If you wish to teach... you first must learn.
jsaldea12


I have been seeing Dr. Einstein, Borhl, Bauer in your replies, but I have not seen you. Where are you? Do you really use your God-given intellect? Reiterating, I have been reading Dr.Einstein, Bothl, Bauer, Maxwell in our replies, as if you speak with authority that is not yours. I advise you: use your God-given intellect and you will move forward, just like them, follow their footsteps. that is what these eminent sientists would you to be like them: creative, imaginative, always searching for the unlimited truth.

My queston now is: Do you believe that rotation of earth to generate electricity, then do believe because rotation of earth generates the Van Allen Belt, the millions of lightnings striking earth daily or two? In like manner, the rotation of earth can generate electro-magnetism (at gravitational vibration level, (just like generator can generate electricity to capacity level) that stretches to its conducting gravitational field in outer space, which is skein/matrix of the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein. Do you beieve that the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein is REAL?

jsaldea12

5.21.09.
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (jsaldea12+May 20 2009, 10:25 PM)
I have been seeing Dr. Einstein, Borhl, Bauer in your replies, but I have not seen you. Where are you? Do you really use your God-given intellect? Reiterating, I have been reading Dr.Einstein, Bothl, Bauer, Maxwell in our replies, as if you speak with authority that is not yours. I advise you: use your God-given intellect and you will move forward, just like them, follow their footsteps. that is what these eminent sientists would you to be like them: creative, imaginative, always searching for the unlimited truth.

Yet more stereotypical, unoriginal, mediocre crank rhetoric.
Why don't you start thinking for yourself, and stop repeating the inane bullsh*t that you get from television shows like the X-Files and Fringe?

I'd rather be accused of parroting Einstein than David Duchovny, any day.
RobDegraves
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I have been seeing Dr. Einstein, Borhl, Bauer in your replies,


Gosh.. I wish it were so.

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I have been seeing Dr. Einstein, Borhl, Bauer in your replies,


Gosh.. I wish it were so.

Do you really use your God-given intellect?


Well... I tend to waste it sometimes.. like responding here, but I had nothing better to do at that time.

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(at gravitational vibration level,


What is a gravitational vibration level? Do I really want to know?

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(at gravitational vibration level,


What is a gravitational vibration level? Do I really want to know?

Do you beieve that the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein is REAL


Belief has nothing to do with it. Currently Relativity matches observational and experimental data better than any other theory so far.

Your theory is not even coherent, never mind matching anything. To be honest, MjolnirPants is being kind in calling your theory mediocre.
jsaldea12

You said it, "I'd rather be accused of parroting Einstein..." You are not using God-given intellect. You have not acquire wisdom yet, knowledge you do but not wisdom.

Now answer my queries as stated in my immediate preceding reply. Do you believe that the spacetime of Dr. Einstein is real? What are the implications? Because those queries will support other missing links in science.


jsaldea12


5.21.09

TheDoc
QUOTE (jsaldea12+)
I advise you: use your God-given intellect and you will move forward, just like them, follow their footsteps. that is what these eminent sientists would you to be like them: creative, imaginative, always searching for the unlimited truth.

To move forward, you first have to understand the topic you're trying to further. The fact that RobDegraves caught you making a very basic, school-level error speaks volumes not so much about what you're trying to accomplish, but more about how you're going about doing it. Perhaps, as he suggested, you should actually research these things before running off at the mouth - surely that's not beyond your "God-given intellect" now, is it?

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Do you believe that the spacetime of Dr. Einstein is real?

Remember, guys - if your answer is "Yes", then you're a parrot.
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (jsaldea12+May 20 2009, 10:54 PM)
You said it, "I'd rather be accused of parroting Einstein..." You are not using God-given intellect. You have not acquire wisdom yet, knowledge you do but not wisdom.

...And you are not using any sort of intellect...

For the record: I've more wisdom in my knotted butt-hairs than you have in your entire body.
RobDegraves
Ugh... there's an image I wish I didn't have.
jsaldea12
No, you are not a parrot, Just that novel ideas are always hard to accept.
Regards.


Jsaldea12
5,21,09
jsaldea12

"You have more wisdom?" That makes the two of us. Then we have the same answers to the following queries:
(1) Do you agree that motion of magnetic earth can generate electro-manetism in ts continnuing gravitational field in outer space, such generated electro-magnetism in the level of gravitational field vibration? (a generator cannot produce electricity more than its wattage capacity)
(2) Though the moon magnetic field is so weak, do you believe that the gravitationl fields of earth and moon locked?
(3) That the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein and the attraction gravity of Newton, are both real, two sides in one coin, that is, if you believe in attraction gravity which i have tried to explain and repeat?


jsaldea12

5.21.09
RobDegraves
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1) Do you agree that motion of magnetic earth can generate electro-manetism in ts continnuing gravitational field in outer space, such generated electro-magnetism in the level of gravitational field vibration? (a generator cannot produce electricity more than its wattage capacity)



No.

To begin with your question is nonsense. Electro-magnetism has nothing to do with gravitational field vibration. In fact, the terms gravitational field vibration are nonsense.... perhaps you might want to define what it is you mean since it is your own concept and makes no sense to anyone else.

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1) Do you agree that motion of magnetic earth can generate electro-manetism in ts continnuing gravitational field in outer space, such generated electro-magnetism in the level of gravitational field vibration? (a generator cannot produce electricity more than its wattage capacity)



No.

To begin with your question is nonsense. Electro-magnetism has nothing to do with gravitational field vibration. In fact, the terms gravitational field vibration are nonsense.... perhaps you might want to define what it is you mean since it is your own concept and makes no sense to anyone else.

(2) Though the moon magnetic field is so weak, do you believe that the gravitationl fields of earth and moon locked?


If by locked you mean that they affect each other gravitationally... yes.

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(3) That the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein and the attraction gravity of Newton, are both real, two sides in one coin, that is, if you believe in attraction gravity which i have tried to explain and repeat?


Yes. Your question is poorly put but essentially I believe that Relativity is more correct than any other current theory. It is however a theory and is bound to be refined at some point just as Newton's theories have been refined.
jsaldea12


Do you believe that everything in the universe is vibration, is permanently changing?

Do you believe that gravitational field of earth exists? that is is vibrating?

Do you agree that no advanced, sophisticated scientific instrument can detect the gravitational field? yet it exist.

Do yo believe that earth is a magnet, a simple compass cannot lie.

That rotation and revolution of earth, like generator, can generate electro-magnetism?

Do you believe that the gravitational field of earth extends far beyond is the making of mother earth's gravity? If earth's gravity can generate electro-magnetism, therefore,that electro-magnetism further runs through the gravitational field in outer space because fundamentally the gravitational field is no different from mother earth's gravity.


See?


jsaldea12

5.22.09


RobDegraves
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Do you believe that everything in the universe is vibration, is permanently changing?


No.

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Do you believe that everything in the universe is vibration, is permanently changing?


No.

Do you believe that gravitational field of earth exists? that is is vibrating?


Exists yes. Vibrating no.

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Do you agree that no advanced, sophisticated scientific instrument can detect the gravitational field? yet it exist.


No. LIGO

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Do you agree that no advanced, sophisticated scientific instrument can detect the gravitational field? yet it exist.


No. LIGO

Do yo believe that earth is a magnet, a simple compass cannot lie.


The Earth has a magnetic field so yes.

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That rotation and revolution of earth, like generator, can generate electro-magnetism?


That is an over simplification.. so yes and no.

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That rotation and revolution of earth, like generator, can generate electro-magnetism?


That is an over simplification.. so yes and no.

Do you believe that the gravitational field of earth extends far beyond is the making of mother earth's gravity?


No

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If earth's gravity can generate electro-magnetism, therefore,that electro-magnetism further runs through the gravitational field in outer space because fundamentally the gravitational field is no different from mother earth's gravity.


No

This is completely a ridiculous premise and massively unsupported by any evidence.

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If earth's gravity can generate electro-magnetism, therefore,that electro-magnetism further runs through the gravitational field in outer space because fundamentally the gravitational field is no different from mother earth's gravity.


No

This is completely a ridiculous premise and massively unsupported by any evidence.

See?


Yes.

However, I don't think you will like what I see.
jsaldea12
Gravitational field of earth has its own very, very low, low level of vibration .because everything is vibrating, nothing remains the same. and gravitational field has electro-magnetic property, I think you will disagree. But most scientists now agree that if there is a way to measure the speed of gravity in space which is simply “there”, it is the speed of light. Thus gravitational field and light have something in common. Light is electro-magnetic, can it be possible that gravitational field of earth possess too electro-magnetic property like light?. This is the implication when most scientists conform that the speed of gravity and light are the same, it also means that gravitational field of earth has electro-magnetic property, that space-extension gravitational field of earth that emanates from mother’s earth gravity...

Could it be that the ”field” referred in gravitational field pertains to the limitless spacetime of Dr. Einstein, which has skein/matrix on which electro-magnetic gravity can intersect and propagate?.


Regards

Jsaldea12

5.22.09
RobDegraves
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Gravitational field of earth has its own very, very low, low level of vibration


Prove it.

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Gravitational field of earth has its own very, very low, low level of vibration


Prove it.

Light is electro-magnetic, can it be possible that gravitational field of earth possess too electro-magnetic property like light?.


No.

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This is the implication when most scientists conform that the speed of gravity and light are the same,


No it is not. Actually research the subject and you will find that it is not. In fact that is partially what Relativity is all about. You are about 100 years late on your studies.

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This is the implication when most scientists conform that the speed of gravity and light are the same,


No it is not. Actually research the subject and you will find that it is not. In fact that is partially what Relativity is all about. You are about 100 years late on your studies.

it also means that gravitational field of earth has electro-magnetic property, that space-extension gravitational field of earth that emanates from mother’s earth gravity...


No... it does not.

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Could it be that the ”field” referred in gravitational field pertains to the limitless spacetime of Dr. Einstein, which has skein/matrix on which electro-magnetic gravity can intersect and propagate?.


No.


Seriously, you keep making wide sweeping generalizations based on ignorance alone. Have you ever considered actually studying the subject matter that you are talking about?

It would be refreshing.
jsaldea12
This is expanding, Two phenomena completely occupy the entire universe, namely, the universal spacetime of Dr. Einstein and the attraction gravity of Newton, call it the universal gravitational field. Both must intersect one another. There is no perfect empty space. Everything is filled, and in everything is natural vibration, plus motions of large bodies, like galaxies, stars creating additional vibrations. Reiterating, it is clear that rotating objects, like generators which must be DC or AC with magnetic exciter. , create electro-magnetism. Now there is NO large bodies in the universe ,re-galaxies, stars, planets, without magnetic fields. Galaxies, for instance, rotates at 2 million miles per hour, plus, minus, but that is enough to cause electro-magnetism on the universal gravitational field of Newton which is at the same time the spacetime of Dr. Einstein. Even human beings have electro-magnetism but at rate condusive to life. So in everything, there electro-magnetism of different rates.. My point is this missing link: electro-magnetic light would not have reach us from distant galaxy, for instance, if electro-magnetic light has no conductor or medium on which to propagate. Can we deny the existence of the spacetime of Dr. Einstein on which intersect the electro-magnetic gravitational field, the attraction gravity of Newton?. See the implication?

Regards.


Jsaldea12
5.22.09..
Granouille
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There is no perfect empty space.


Obviously. You are still there...
jsaldea12
You can join me. But it is not perfect empty space. That is real spacetime of Dr. Einstein, which is the whole outer space, intersected by electro-magnetic gravitation of Newton.. Electro-magnetic light has a conductor, a medium, the whole outer space ?


jsaldea12

5.22.09
jsaldea12
Several times repeated in Genesis: “day and night”, “evening and morning”, “day and night”, “light and darkness”, ..it appears the Author (Abraham) was referring to ordinary cycles of days and nights rotation of earth, and, it appears, Abraham applied those cycles must have started, must have been the same from the beginning of creation.…today and tomorrow, the changing time, the greater light (sun) on day lesser light on night (moon) the changing seasons, the length of years, etc. So, it was from the beginning.

Bible is based on faith.

Jsaldea12
5.22.09.
jsaldea12


Please permit me to speak plainly:…

Electro-magnetic light, coming from distant galaxy, would not have reached and contacted electro-magnetic human eyes if there is no continuous link, re-the electro-magnetic gravitational fields, local and universal, acting as conductor or medium,on .which electro-magnetic light propagates... it appears the missing link is finally found..(or re-discovered).


Jsaldea12

5.31.09


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jsaldea12
Will electro-magnetic light from a distant star bend when passing by an equally electro- gravitational field of the sun? Yes. Electro-magnetic light has mass, can be bent by electro-magnetic gravitational lfield, like the sun, other than the spacetime curvature of Dr. Einstein. Here is the nail to the coffin: electromagnetic light is even sucked back by the strong electro-gravitational field of the black hole...

Is gravity and magnetism the same. Fundamentally, both are the making of the opposite law of nature. Reiterating, earth, as whole, is a magnet with north and south pole, and at same time, earth, as a whole, has intrinsically electro- gravitational field that extends to outer space. Is the gravitational field of earth electro-gmanetic.Here is another proof: As in macro so in micro: Electro-magnetism is generated by orbiting electrons and spinning nucleus inside the atom, in like manner, electro-agmetism is generatred on the inherent locked gravitational fields by earth orbiting around the spinning sun, See?
this is response to both of my respected physicists peers.



Jsaldea12

6.23.09
AlexG
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.Here is another proof: As in macro so in micro: Electro-magnetism is generated by orbiting electrons and spinning nucleus inside the atom, in like manner, electro-agmetism is generatred on the inherent locked gravitational fields by earth orbiting around the spinning sun, See?


Total nonsense.
magpies
All the forces have everything in common we just dont understand them perfectly so we get things messed up here on earth...

As to why gravity works the way it does my personal thought is that gravity is just caused by something that exists taking up space that used to be void. Thus a form of pressure is created that draws other things that exists twoards it. So gravity is more of a pressure then anything else. But of course Id use pressure to describe every part of the universe myself. smile.gif
jsaldea12

I conform. There is real spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein which is the fabric of all outer space, which has weight,which efortlessly presses on all sides of earth. But there is REAL attraction gravity of Newton which is intirinsic with the fabric of spacetime, For instance, the strong gravitational force that sucks escaping light back to black hole is attraction gravity but it utilizes the spacetime in sucking such light...giving impression like a trampoline on which a heavy object dropped therein, sucks such trammpoline, creating a dip, the heavier the object, the deeper the dip. in such trampoline.

Einstein, in his later years, said, "I cannot anymore recognize my relativity.because many dipped their hands on it.


jsaldea12

6.24.09
H2O
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In the case of gravity, LIKES ATTRACTS.


I've wondered about this. Would antimatter be the "unlike" to matter? Would antimatter then repel matter?
jsaldea12
It is stated that when matter and anti-matter meet, both annihilate one another. It is more appropriate to say that both convert themselves to energy. It is positive to negative attraction.. too much attraction that both convert to energy. It is like pair of live electrical wire, re-positive wire and negative wire.. When both positive and negative wire are in direct contact with the other, there is spark, direct conversion to energy. But when a bulb is installed, there is light, re- conversion of energy to light. If anti-matter meets anti-matter, repulse., proton to proton repulse.


Jsaldea12

7.2.09

jsaldea12
Please permit me to bring these observations::

a.That gravitational force of the sun can bend light of star passing behind, just
light spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein.

Proof: Blackhole has strong gravitational force that prevents even light from
escaping. Concept of spacetime bending light was several decades before
black hole was discovered, .although it was also the concept of GR of Dr.
Einstein that leads to black hole.

b. The familiar illustration of Dr. Einstein spacetime gravity is that of trampoline
and object dropped therein creating a dip, the heaver the object, the deeper
the dip .until the deepest dip is reached: a collapsed object becomes a black
hole. It appears there is something wrong with this illustration. It is impossible
in actual outer space. Dr. Einstein, in later year, said, “I cannot anymore
recognize my relativity…”.?

The spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein appears to be illustrated as a half
floating rotating ball on body of water that creates circular ripples or curves
on body of water. But as electro-magnetic sun, for instance, is submerged in
outer space, its electro-magnetic gravitational field creates circumferential
ripple or curve which a lesser object caught in the valleys of curves is.
trapped therein. It appears this is a better illustration. But the attraction
gravity of Newton, that electro- magnetic gravitational field is jointly
participating, attracting and binding the electro-magnetic gravitational field
of the trapped rotating object in the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein.

..
The whole outer space has skein, fabric, which is at same time the
spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein. It exists and exerts no force, or it
appears, just like a 4-kilometer ocean and any object at bottom will feel the
no-force exerted pressure of the whole ocean.. In like manner, the
spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein, the whole outer space, is just effortlessly
weighing all over earth its size, otherwise no blackhole appears possible
without something that presses, effortlessly, from all over,.though it
appears, the feeling is, as if the object turning into collapsed blackhole
is creating a deeper, deeper dip in the spacetime gravity or Dr. Einstein,
itself.




Regards.


Jsaldea12

7/5/09..
rush
It baffles me that with all the understanding people say they have we still don't know how or why gravity works.. Maybe everyone is looking in the wrong direction..
Does anyone have any input on gravity being like radio waves? Has this been measured?
I've thought about gravity one day and I had an imaginative moment..
Gravity could be like radiowaves and not a field... it is known microwaves vibrate materials and the friction heats things up...

My theory of gravity waves
-These waves are highly penatratable
-these waves are at a frequency close to the space between atoms in a solid object and hard to measure
-these waves are at THIS frequency because they are emited from all atoms
-these waves pull at other atoms from the direction they come from by there frequency... Imagine a wave with say 10 peaks.. between each peak there is an atom.. the frequency of the wave is a fraction slower than the space between these atoms from eachother forcing them down.. If the frequency was a fraction faster than the space of the atoms this would push away....

rush cool.gif
jsaldea12
Radio waves has electro-magnetic property, it has binding positive and negative attraction, the making of the opposite law.

Jsaldea12
7.19.09
Pbdobb
The central core of any body in the universe is an underlying singularity. If the Earth could be dissasembled, at its core lies a single particle that holds the entire planet together. This particle spins at an amazing speed that creates friction against all the matter it has attracted over the eons. This friction has resulted in a molten state that is "frozen" on the outer crust. The pattern can be seen in the magnetic fields (van allen belts) as the planet slowly enfolds upon itself the rifts or valleys in the cool zones are filled with water (where hydrogen and oxygen have combined to form the life giving compound) As the Earth flies through space it continually attracts more particles enlarging itself and increasing in size.

Juxtaposed against the Earth is the Sun. It has reached critical mass and has begun to expend its matter. The gravity of the Sun is many times stronger than the Earth's gravity and is a result of a much stronger singularity that effects the entire solar system.

rush
Cool theory tongue.gif
AlexG
This is the currently active crackpot thread.
jsaldea12
(Quoted: that is not law of physics, re-The law of opposite which states: unlike attract, like repulse?)

That unwritten law is abided, complied, and applied in physics to the letter. It is the immutable law of the universe.

(Quoted: Some males are attracted to other males…so…not a law.)

That is an exception. God creation of the universe has some exception some imperfection.

(Quoted: You might mean ying and yang..again…not physics).

Ying and yang are Chinese scientific language.

(Quoted: The magnetic field of the moon is hundred times weaker compared to earth)

Wrong: the magnetic field of the moon is 6 times lesser than earth’s.


jsaldea12

7.20.09

rush
Of course size effects strength of gravity.=)
A gravity particle type thing is very imaginative and I think was said to be a joke tongue.gif not to be taken seriously.haha
Thanks for pointing out something that's obviously a "crackpot". I think my buzz has been killed.. Back to facts..
Speaking of crackpots, has anyone seen the Hutchison Effect?
Do you think he might be tapping into something worth while?
Gravity as being waves.... Hmmm.... The Hutchison Effect a hoax?
If it was real why do you think it would work?
Is he using waves all at the same time and then somehow hit the right freuquencies of various waves at the same time mimicing gravity but also heating-up or tearing things apart at the molecular level?? Maybe he fully doesn't understand how he did it.....
jsaldea12
Let us not talk about Hutchison effect. . Do you believe that the spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein is real, that it has skein/matrix that can be curled, curved, displaced by matter? Is spacetime field? Yes. Is it wave, yes, matter, like supernova, can cause waves, ripples on field of Dr. Einstein spacetime.

You mentioned earlier about radio waves, microwaves as if it is new input source of gravity? . These are parts of electro-magnetic spectrum, including light. All have electro-magnetic property. with positive and negative properties, therefore what you noticed between space of atoms, depending on frequency, is due to the positive and negative behavior of the opposite law, which the frequency, as you said made efrects: the slower the frequency (with less heat generated) the more the attraction operates, the closer the atom; the faster the frequency (which produces heat, energy) attraction is weakened by heat, the distant the atom. The slower-faster variance is due to heat, energy.

Regards.


Jsaldea12

7.23.09
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rush
If so how can these waves be measured? Since the equipment is made of atoms themselves.
Also can these waves be shielded? They ar HIGHLY penetratedable!
I'm going to be building a device that can be totally contained to counteract gravity using inertia, my next project would be shielding or trying to create gravity waves... laugh.gif haha Yeah, crazy....
Gravity shielding.... Would this explain why UFOs glow? Would shielding effect space-time? cool.gif
jsaldea12
The wave that I am referring is the ripple on the skein, matrix of spacetime of Dr. Einstein.

Trying to make a device that can counter-act gravity or gravity shielding? I think you have a “lead”. You are after one of the greatest puzzles of our time.. Let intuition lead you right.

Jsaldea12

7.27.09
jsaldea12
The wave that I am referring is the ripple on the skein, matrix of spacetime of Dr. Einstein.

Trying to make a device that can counter-act gravity or gravity shielding? I think you have a “lead”. You are after one of the greatest puzzles of our time.. Let intuition lead you right.

Jsaldea12

7.27.09
jsaldea12


Please permit me to refer you to the latest revision, entitled, "Why is gravity all attraction toward earth? (Most clarified).

This is posted at phys forums. I shall be very glad to answer all questions. Thank you. jsaldea12 8.13.09
light in the tunnel
attraction of masses and curvature of space-time are not two different forms of gravity. They are just two different ways of explaining the effects of gravity. Curvature of space-time works better in cases where the gravitational pull of multiple massive bodies is combining in a way that makes the attraction between two bodies appear as if not the only interaction.

Light diversion from a straight path also seems to be explained better by space-time curvature because photons are/were thought to have no mass, and thought not to be affected by gravity except in that they travel endlessly in a straight-line, including as such a line curves as a result of space-time curvature.

I believe the assumption of zero-mass photons and endless momentum of light can be challenged. There have been no experiments where photon-motion has been observed at a position far enough from the gravitational field of the sun and planets to witness whether they keep moving past the solar system or "fall" back in the direction of the sun or other masses they passed by earlier.

I also haven't heard of any experiments that prove that light-speed is a constant. It is just an assumption that physicists have been making for so long that no one wants to question it.

It seems more plausible to me that black-holes are the result of viewing a star from beyond its photon horizon than it is to imagine these are super-dense masses where no light can escape. In other words, our sun might appear as a black hole from a point beyond the (photon) horizon where its light slows down and "falls" back toward the sun.
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (light in the tunnel+Aug 14 2009, 12:07 PM)
I believe the assumption of zero-mass photons and endless momentum of light can be challenged. There have been no experiments where photon-motion has been observed at a position far enough from the gravitational field of the sun and planets to witness whether they keep moving past the solar system or "fall" back in the direction of the sun or other masses they passed by earlier.

In case you haven't heard, we've been taking pictures of deep space for some time now. If photons eventually fall back toward the closest gravity well, we wouldn't see anything. If you want to test whether a photon as mass or not, why don't you consider the properties of mass? If something with mass (ball) strikes a solid object (wall), the wall is pushed back as the ball transfers some of its energy to the wall. The ball may bounce back, but it has lost some energy in the process. When light strike a mirror, it is absorbed and then shot out again without any loss in velocity, and no acceleration. This is because objects with mass have inertia. Inertia is the pseudo-force that resists changes in position. Light does not exhibit this property.

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I also haven't heard of any experiments that prove that light-speed is a constant.  It is just an assumption that physicists have been making for so long that no one wants to question it.

That's because you aren't looking hard enough. All light always travels at the same speed. This has been confirmed more times than you can count. Light from a laser has the same velocity as light from distant galaxies. Now, if not traveling through a vacuum, light can slow down temporarily. Light has been shown to slow down as it passes through certain materials, but as soon as it exits that material, it travels at C once again.

QUOTE (->
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I also haven't heard of any experiments that prove that light-speed is a constant.  It is just an assumption that physicists have been making for so long that no one wants to question it.

That's because you aren't looking hard enough. All light always travels at the same speed. This has been confirmed more times than you can count. Light from a laser has the same velocity as light from distant galaxies. Now, if not traveling through a vacuum, light can slow down temporarily. Light has been shown to slow down as it passes through certain materials, but as soon as it exits that material, it travels at C once again.

It seems more plausible to me that black-holes are the result of viewing a star from beyond its photon horizon than it is to imagine these are super-dense masses where no light can escape.  In other words, our sun might appear as a black hole from a point beyond the (photon) horizon where its light slows down and "falls" back toward the sun.

You need to think about your statements a bit more before posting them. Have you looked at the night sky? Can you see stars? Your point has been debunked.
We can easily see stars and black holes with the same mass at the same distance. You're telling me that one has a magical 'photon horizon' and the other does not?
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (light in the tunnel+Aug 14 2009, 12:07 PM)
I also haven't heard of any experiments that prove that light-speed is a constant.  It is just an assumption that physicists have been making for so long that no one wants to question it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau%E2%80%...cault_apparatus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaelson-Morley_experiment
http://books.google.com/books?id=cPLXqV3Qw...page&q=&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=jryk42J8o...page&q=&f=false

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_ligh...inertial_frames
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Constant speed in inertial frames

        See also: Introduction to special relativity and Special relativity

  The speed of light has been shown experimentally to be independent of the motion of the source.[17][18] It has also been confirmed by the Michelson–Morley experiment and other experiments that the two-way speed of light (for example from a source to a mirror and back again) is constant.[17][19][20][21]  It is not possible, however, to measure the one-way speed of light (for example from a source to a distant detector) without some convention as to how clocks at the source and detector should be synchronized.[17] Einstein (who was aware of this fact) postulated that the speed of light in an inertial frame should be taken as constant in all cases. That postulate is fundamental to the theory of special relativity.[22][23]  Although the speed of propagation is independent of motion of the source, the observed frequency can change due to the Doppler effect.  In general relativity c remains an important constant of spacetime, however the concepts of 'distance', 'time', and therefore 'speed' are not always unambiguously defined due to the curvature of spacetime caused by gravitation.[24]
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