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flybry77
I was watching a series on discovery channel years ago and there was gentleman who invented a machine that looked like a car engine with a huge fan one one side. is used friction-less momentum to rotate the engine . i remember it used only 2 batteries to produce 100x that, if more. then episode then went on to describe how he went to the supreme court and it was sabotaged by them in the 60's or 50's??. so now the guy tours the country with the invention. please if you know who his mane is you will be greatly appreciated.
light in the tunnel
QUOTE (flybry77+Nov 3 2009, 10:23 PM)
i remember it used only 2 batteries to produce 100x

I have heard it is possible to use two batteries to produce 100, but they have to be male, female, and both heterosexual.
rpenner
Sounds a lot like Joseph Newman.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/5...er-than-it-uses

http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

http://pesn.com/2005/04/03/6900078_Newman_...iscover_Canada/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Energy_Ma...f_Joseph_Newman

http://www.phact.org/e/skeptic/biss.htm

But thanks for this, because it gave me the history behind the court case Newman v. Quigg which is behind the supreme court case Daubert v. Dow Pharmaceuticals. This principle that the Supreme Court requires Federal judges to screen out "speculative or ill-founded science." And thus even if they clear Article III standing, personal jurisdiction, and a host of other problem's Sancho & Wagner's lawsuit against the LHC fails.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1...ence-essay.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daubert_v._Me...Pharmaceuticals

http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/92-102.ZS.html

http://ipbiz.blogspot.com/2005/04/bob-park...wman-again.html

http://openjurist.org/877/f2d/1575/newman-v-j-quigg
flybry77
wow thank you so much for the many links!!! you are of god's nature. i appreciate it very much, i just started to click links , i will notifiy you later today to make sure we are on the right track. !!!!! your the best. !!
flybry77
yes he is god's son. i believe this is him, is there any other scientists that were similar?? any others that came to mind??


rpenner
Why would, in your opinion, Joseph Newman be any more God's son than, say, the local alcoholic police officer?

As to your request for more people like Joseph Newman, there is zero evidence to back Joseph Newman's claim that he is any good type of scientist, or even a skilled mechanical engineer.

But if you mean are there people who out of repeated and deliberate and obstinate ignorance or simple evil, are willing to take investors money for really unworkable ideas, yes there are hundreds. What separates a skilled scientist from a failed scientist is the unflinching ability to apply a methodical skepticism to both one's own ideas and the ideas of others. So while some scientists may have an ego, their ego is not the part of them that helps them do science.

Skepticism is working from evidence to conclusions and not the other way around. "The true meaning of the word skepticism has nothing to do with doubt, disbelief, or negativity. Skepticism is the process of applying reason and critical thinking to determine validity. It's the process of finding a supported conclusion, not the justification of a preconceived conclusion." http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2009/10/fear_vaccines.php

Of course you have to proceed in science in the positive direction. It's not just enough to attack a position, you have to bring your own demonstratively better position to the game. Just putting doubt in for doubts sake is called denialism or paranoid skepticism - a type of sterile contrarian thought that typically is used to try to sound scientific while denying the progress made from original ignorance. Disambiguating science from things that just sound like science is hard for the typical layman. "Indeed, for the paranoid skeptics, it's not that science is wrong but that the scientists aren't scientific enough. ... [A]n obsessive fear of uncertainty is the opposite of science. ... Immoderate doubt is paranoia." http://www.slate.com/id/2189178/entry/2189179/

Also good reads:

http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/07/...ience_works.php


http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2009/06/...of_crankery.php
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/04/...mately_fail.php
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/04/...me_crankery.php
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/03/...ism_the_anc.php
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/03/...ism_part_ii.php

http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/11/f...ir_sorry_no.php
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/07/...y_begetti_1.php
http://scienceblogs.com/catdynamics/2006/0..._thing_as_a.php
http://scienceblogs.com/sunclipse/2008/10/...fuel_than_h.php
flybry77
you are not obviously, the law of the land is nowhere near the laws of god, you must see it to beleive it, well beleive in death and then see it . dont tell me you know who i am, you dont even know what the illuminati and project blue beam is. you dont know how much waste is here including dip shits like you who never studied physics. according to you , the bible or any book for your sake cant help you as a scientist? only visions of bullshit for you. quantum conspiracy theories were included in the illuminate card game by steve jackson. you will suffer with your ignorance, i would have rather you not showed me the links because your a capitalist prick. you think jesus was a poet?? no and he told the truth better than any. catch my drift? god doesnt base his choice on wehter you have a bachelors, but that would mean you wasted your time huh??? cops are pigs like the rest of the political bullshit we know, who are you some conventional minded idiot who cant beleive energy is free because you worked you whole life for the dark forces and didnt even know it. you will see the light when you die because you cant accept it now.
flybry77
you are one crazy paranoid ***, a kid looks at you and say, mommy get him away from me!!! you make no sense with your froidian phycotics. he was a child rapist just like you. raping knowledge of thr free thinker. you will crying for me one day.
flybry77
ok buddy explain 22 divided by 7. then tell me there is no perpetual energy
flybry77
yeah budddy i know so many investers that throw there money around, name one!!!!!!!!! they all are fakes like bill gates. giving only portions of thier money. in order to be the kingdom of god, you have to give it all up. no rich man will do that for something they will loose money on all together because our life is free, they put a price on it, seeeeeeeeeeee idiot? you messing with jesus now. a possesed maniac jesus that will bring death for peace. death to the metal heads like you. i hope you brain turns into a computer.
flybry77
i have no doubt you are a satain worshipper and just dont know it yet
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (flybry77+Nov 4 2009, 06:14 PM)
you messing with jesus now. a possesed  maniac jesus that will bring death for peace.

Is this different from Raptor Jesus? Please explain how.
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ok buddy explain 22 divided by 7. then tell me there is no perpetual energy

There is no perpetual energy.
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ok buddy explain 22 divided by 7. then tell me there is no perpetual energy

There is no perpetual energy.
you make no sense with your froidian phycotics.

Thank god, I was worried that my Freudian Psychotics weren't making sense.
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death to the metal heads like you. i hope you brain turns into a computer.

How did you know I was a metal head? Do you also like Rammstein?
I'm saving up for my brain/computer upgrade! I can't wait!
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death to the metal heads like you. i hope you brain turns into a computer.

How did you know I was a metal head? Do you also like Rammstein?
I'm saving up for my brain/computer upgrade! I can't wait!
i have no doubt you are a satain worshipper and just dont know it yet

Satain? Is that an Indian dish? Sounds yummy!
flybry77
zero evidence my ***, you watch the wrong clips. you are a blatent liar. you would have persecuted jesus, not beleived in him you lawyer judge wanna be.
religion and science is my game.
flybry77
ohhhh albert eintstein the sadist. too bad i already prooved his theory wrong. hate to bust your bubble but e=mc2 is ultimately the disposal of energy, you must agree if you studied. it is not the production of energy. thats what happens when you dont beleive or interperet the bible to its full prophecy. he gave up , and i will be famous prooving him wrong. haha you love to hate me dont you
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (flybry77+Nov 4 2009, 06:39 PM)
ohhhh albert eintstein the sadist.

Albert Eintstein? Hmmm... Never heard of him.
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too bad i already prooved his theory wrong.

Are you a Proover like Hoover?
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too bad i already prooved his theory wrong.

Are you a Proover like Hoover?
thats what happens when you dont beleive or interperet the bible to its full prophecy.

Are you talking about Raptor Jesus again?
flybry77
i used to be like you, beleive me, i had the same view of religion and the bible. i got stonger and then went back. not weaker by anymeans. pick it up and you will see. if the world is not getting better mutiplied its getting worse, infected by people like you. wasting and wasting and wasting why your family starves to death.
flybry77
you keep covering me up, hmmmmmmmmmm conspiracy of you being wrong and cant handle it?


ohhhh albert eintstein the sadist. too bad i already prooved his theory wrong. hate to bust your bubble but e=mc2 is ultimately the disposal of energy, you must agree if you studied. it is not the production of energy. thats what happens when you dont beleive or interperet the bible to its full prophecy. he gave up , and i will be famous prooving him wrong. haha you love to hate me dont you
flybry77
you keep covering me up, hmmmmmmmmmm conspiracy of you being wrong and cant handle it?


ohhhh albert eintstein the sadist. too bad i already prooved his theory wrong. hate to bust your bubble but e=mc2 is ultimately the disposal of energy, you must agree if you studied. it is not the production of energy. thats what happens when you dont beleive or interperet the bible to its full prophecy. he gave up , and i will be famous prooving him wrong. haha you love to hate me dont you
flybry77
you keep covering me up, hmmmmmmmmmm conspiracy of you being wrong and cant handle it?


ohhhh albert eintstein the sadist. too bad i already prooved his theory wrong. hate to bust your bubble but e=mc2 is ultimately the disposal of energy, you must agree if you studied. it is not the production of energy. thats what happens when you dont beleive or interperet the bible to its full prophecy. he gave up , and i will be famous prooving him wrong. haha you love to hate me dont you
i dont have time for enemies, only a fist for effing them. have fun with your website. meanwhile ill be on the street helping people.

[Moderator: So this was Joe Newman astroturfing?]
buttershug
QUOTE (flybry77+Nov 4 2009, 11:11 PM)

i dont have time for enemies, only a fist for effing them. have fun with your website. meanwhile ill be on the street helping people.

And how will you know?

I have a feeling that there are medical people out there that would be able to ascertain which drugs you have taken.
Matador
Or hasn't taken biggrin.gif
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