A poll that stems from this thread, it's exactly what is says on the tin: Who has supported their argument better?
Let the voting commence...
Doc,
dad1 hasn't an argument - merely an ego powered delusional fantasy, created to bolster an above average monster psychotic condition. This total dickless loser of a pathetic apology of a pointless bucket of badger excrement lives in a microcosm of biblical fantasy and diarrhorea - and as such well deserves negging @ every given opportunity!
dad1 hasn't an argument - merely an ego powered delusional fantasy, created to bolster an above average monster psychotic condition. This total dickless loser of a pathetic apology of a pointless bucket of badger excrement lives in a microcosm of biblical fantasy and diarrhorea - and as such well deserves negging @ every given opportunity!
They're both wrong, but TheDoc is closer to the truth on this one.
Murphy teaches us that "Evolution Happens"
The second corrollarie of Murphy's sacred law teaches us that "everything takes longer then you think"
However, I believe that Dad1's posts are a direct consequence of Mr Coles Axiom "The sum of intelligence on the planet is constant, the population is growing".
Murphy teaches us that "Evolution Happens"
The second corrollarie of Murphy's sacred law teaches us that "everything takes longer then you think"
However, I believe that Dad1's posts are a direct consequence of Mr Coles Axiom "The sum of intelligence on the planet is constant, the population is growing".
Wow. Nine-zip, and I haven't even voted yet.
dad1 take note...
dad1 take note...
Hey Dock
Ever heard of one man, one vote? - though you could be in trouble here - I presume that by now "you" have all voted and if you manage to win this one it is only because nobody cares enough to bother with your silly little poll. You know you were a little bit amusing once - now, itīs just pathetic - starting threads about yourself with the clones all in line to support you - time to find new hunting grounds, I think - youīve truly been outed here.
bye
eddie
Ever heard of one man, one vote? - though you could be in trouble here - I presume that by now "you" have all voted and if you manage to win this one it is only because nobody cares enough to bother with your silly little poll. You know you were a little bit amusing once - now, itīs just pathetic - starting threads about yourself with the clones all in line to support you - time to find new hunting grounds, I think - youīve truly been outed here.
bye
eddie
QUOTE (Edward 3+)
I presume that by now "you" have all voted and if you manage to win this one it is only because nobody cares enough to bother with your silly little poll.
Wrong. This thread not silly; quite the opposite in fact. dad1 kept making the statement that I "obviously" had no argument, so I started this thread. The fact that it's 11-0 in my favor right now demonstrates just how many people here respect an honest debate. Perhaps you'd like to browse dad1's posts and see if he's provided a better argument?
So why did you bother to post in here?
So why did you bother to post in here?
starting threads about yourself with the clones all in line to support you
It's funny how you (and others) claim I have all sorts of "clones" running around, but have never managed to actually expose even one of them as my "clone". I wonder why...
Goodbye and good riddance.
Wrong. This thread not silly; quite the opposite in fact. dad1 kept making the statement that I "obviously" had no argument, so I started this thread. The fact that it's 11-0 in my favor right now demonstrates just how many people here respect an honest debate. Perhaps you'd like to browse dad1's posts and see if he's provided a better argument?
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You know you were a little bit amusing once - now, itīs just pathetic
So why did you bother to post in here?
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| You know you were a little bit amusing once - now, itīs just pathetic |
So why did you bother to post in here?
starting threads about yourself with the clones all in line to support you
It's funny how you (and others) claim I have all sorts of "clones" running around, but have never managed to actually expose even one of them as my "clone". I wonder why...
QUOTE
bye
Goodbye and good riddance.
As I have tried to explain to you on the original thread, a poll is no way to establish the scientific soundness of your argument - even if it was a fair poll. As for honest argument , your whole history here is one of dishonest and highly selective hit and run attacks in threads about which you know absolutely nothing. Get a life
QUOTE (Edward 3+)
As I have tried to explain to you on the original thread, a poll is no way to establish the scientific soundness of your argument
Even though I feel I'm closer to the truth than dad1, what I feel about the scientific soundness of my argument is irrelevant. This is about who has defended their argument better. Let us examine:
Which it is.
Which it is.
As for honest argument , your whole history here is one of dishonest
Provide one example of me being dishonest here, ever.
Funny, isn't that what you've been doing in this thread and a few others?
Funny, isn't that what you've been doing in this thread and a few others?
Get a life
Take your own advice.
Even though I feel I'm closer to the truth than dad1, what I feel about the scientific soundness of my argument is irrelevant. This is about who has defended their argument better. Let us examine:
- dad1 has made challenges against accepted scientific theory, refused to use science to refute them, claimed he was exempt from providing scientifc proof, cited the Bible as evidence for his claims, and then claimed I had no argument.
- I have backed up my assertions with links to evidence, examples of evolutionary logic, and reasonable debate.
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even if it was a fair poll.
Which it is.
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| QUOTE |
| even if it was a fair poll. |
Which it is.
As for honest argument , your whole history here is one of dishonest
Provide one example of me being dishonest here, ever.
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and highly selective hit and run attacks in threads about which you know absolutely nothing.
Funny, isn't that what you've been doing in this thread and a few others?
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| and highly selective hit and run attacks in threads about which you know absolutely nothing. |
Funny, isn't that what you've been doing in this thread and a few others?
Get a life
Take your own advice.
And I think TheDoc will admit that it is in the realm of possibility that Dad1 is correct.
Not in the realm of reasonable probabilty but barely in the realm of possibility.
I don't think Dad1's position is even in the neighbourhood of the realm of plausibility.
Not in the realm of reasonable probabilty but barely in the realm of possibility.
I don't think Dad1's position is even in the neighbourhood of the realm of plausibility.
QUOTE (dad1+)
And I think TheDoc will admit that it is in the realm of possibility that Dad1 is correct.
Not in the realm of reasonable probabilty but barely in the realm of possibility.
I would if he at least tried to support his argument, no matter how ridiculous his "proof" might be. But he doesn't do that, he lies and squirms and throws up excuses.
I'd say he's somewhere between the realm of semi-plausibility and complete nutjob.
Not in the realm of reasonable probabilty but barely in the realm of possibility.
I would if he at least tried to support his argument, no matter how ridiculous his "proof" might be. But he doesn't do that, he lies and squirms and throws up excuses.
I'd say he's somewhere between the realm of semi-plausibility and complete nutjob.
QUOTE (Sec+Jun 7 2008, 06:28 AM)
Doc,
dad1 hasn't an argument - merely an ego powered delusional fantasy, created to bolster an above average monster psychotic condition. This total dickless loser of a pathetic apology of a pointless bucket of badger excrement lives in a microcosm of biblical fantasy and diarrhorea - and as such well deserves negging @ every given opportunity!
Amen,
dad1 hasn't an argument - merely an ego powered delusional fantasy, created to bolster an above average monster psychotic condition. This total dickless loser of a pathetic apology of a pointless bucket of badger excrement lives in a microcosm of biblical fantasy and diarrhorea - and as such well deserves negging @ every given opportunity!
Amen,
Nearly 48 hours in and the count stands at 16-0.
Is there anyone here willing to stand up for dad1 or his arguments?
Is there anyone here willing to stand up for dad1 or his arguments?
QUOTE (TheDoc+Jun 9 2008, 01:54 PM)
Is there anyone here willing to stand up for dad1 or his arguments?
Even ted3 wasn't willing
So why he was whining earlier, I don't know.
But with the son of g-d openly against him, dud1 is doomed
Even ted3 wasn't willing
So why he was whining earlier, I don't know.But with the son of g-d openly against him, dud1 is doomed
I am not a supporter of dadīs take on this issue but I do support his right to express it without being jumped on by a gang of bully-boys - you may define that as "whining" - to me it is the right of free speech.
Edward 3
dud1
Sounds like dud1 doesn't agree with you.
Tell me, in what way is dud1 better than Osama ben Laden???
Grumpy
dud1
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Those that oppose God, and refuse to knuckle under, come to the point of deserving to be killed. If a cow is diseased, with, say, mad cow disease, you don't grant it equal rights, you put it down. If a dog bites a kid's face off, and is rabid, foaming at the mouth, it needs to be killed, not out infecting and maiming others. God has needed to kill some vile peoples, that fought Him, and His. My best advice is don't fight God. You will lose.
Sounds like dud1 doesn't agree with you.
Tell me, in what way is dud1 better than Osama ben Laden???
Grumpy
What dad1 proposes is a form of 'intellectual rabies', and therefore, by his own confession, it must be 'culled' before it gets a chance to infect others. It would not take much to further infect the likes of a few others here, for instance...
So it is not about the people behind the words, but the erroneous views they hold. The people themselves usually act out of what they see as 'good intentions' ('FM', 'fundies' and 'cranks' alike). Unfortunately all people also like to believe they are 'correct', but when the view is only personal opinion how can this be possible, being that we all possess differing 'views', of necessity?
Science is a method of understanding our greater surroundings without this erroneous 'opinionated' blathering.
I suspect that dad1, and others, are upset about the 'political aspect' of Humanness that sometimes creeps into our 'sciences', but this is because they are pushing away the same aspect from within themselves, as 'religionists', but do not want to look inside at the truth of it. When this 'political aspect' arises, there is no longer any 'science' or 'religion' in evidence, as these have been superceded by the 'politics' of separatist 'opinions'.
Effectively, this is how 'societies' (which are just collections of more of the same 'Humans') destroy themselves from within. Intellectual rabies!
g.
So it is not about the people behind the words, but the erroneous views they hold. The people themselves usually act out of what they see as 'good intentions' ('FM', 'fundies' and 'cranks' alike). Unfortunately all people also like to believe they are 'correct', but when the view is only personal opinion how can this be possible, being that we all possess differing 'views', of necessity?
Science is a method of understanding our greater surroundings without this erroneous 'opinionated' blathering.
I suspect that dad1, and others, are upset about the 'political aspect' of Humanness that sometimes creeps into our 'sciences', but this is because they are pushing away the same aspect from within themselves, as 'religionists', but do not want to look inside at the truth of it. When this 'political aspect' arises, there is no longer any 'science' or 'religion' in evidence, as these have been superceded by the 'politics' of separatist 'opinions'.
Effectively, this is how 'societies' (which are just collections of more of the same 'Humans') destroy themselves from within. Intellectual rabies!
g.
QUOTE (Edward 3+Jun 9 2008, 05:50 AM)
I am not a supporter of dadīs take on this issue but I do support his right to express it without being jumped on by a gang of bully-boys
Asking for actual proof = jumped on
Asking for actual proof = jumped on
I would have to classify Secīs post on June 7th as nothing but bullying abuse - it certainly could not be classified as asking for proof - and this forum is being highjacked and will soon be nothing more than a playground for Doc & Co - a bunch of abusive juvenile delinquents - or maybe just one egotistical nutter!!
I'd be more inclined to say it will become a playground for morons trying to do science and idiots like you defending them because logic is a violation of the first amendment.
So you defend the right to freedom of speech as "idiotic" ? The religious lobby denied this right to science for hundreds of years - so we now have to get our revenge. Is that how far weīve come and how little weīve learnt?
QUOTE (Edward 3+Jun 9 2008, 10:26 AM)
So you defend the right to freedom of speech as "idiotic" ?
Where did I say that?
I said you were idiotic for calling it bullying and saying we're suppressing his "free speech" because we're asking him to prove something.
Where did I say that?
I said you were idiotic for calling it bullying and saying we're suppressing his "free speech" because we're asking him to prove something.
QUOTE (Edward 3+Jun 9 2008, 03:17 PM)
I would have to classify Secīs post on June 7th as nothing but bullying abuse - it certainly could not be classified as asking for proof - and this forum is being highjacked and will soon be nothing more than a playground for Doc & Co - a bunch of abusive juvenile delinquents - or maybe just one egotistical nutter!!
Yanno son, before ya go aroun' whinin bout Doc's bullyin or anyone else, have ya had a thought t'what yer doin?
Yer showin up in a bunch o different threads to call this boy names an accuse him o doin bad things, an ya never listen to nobody tryin to defend 'im. Yer cryin about the freedom o speech, but ya never seem t'want Doc to have none o that. Ya just seem to want him to shut up. Well, yer bein a hypocrite.
Seriously, son.
Yanno son, before ya go aroun' whinin bout Doc's bullyin or anyone else, have ya had a thought t'what yer doin?
Yer showin up in a bunch o different threads to call this boy names an accuse him o doin bad things, an ya never listen to nobody tryin to defend 'im. Yer cryin about the freedom o speech, but ya never seem t'want Doc to have none o that. Ya just seem to want him to shut up. Well, yer bein a hypocrite.
Seriously, son.
Please comment on Secīs post - or shut up! As for the doc , I will show up anywhere I find him indulging in his childish bullying - and my activities pale alongside his crazed accumulation of abuse and insults. And, if he ever made a post of any scientific merit , or even of the most dubious scientific content, would you identify it for me - I certainly cannot locate one.
QUOTE (Edward 3+Jun 9 2008, 09:49 PM)
Please comment on Secīs post - or shut up! As for the doc , I will show up anywhere I find him indulging in his childish bullying - and my activities pale alongside his crazed accumulation of abuse and insults. And, if he ever made a post of any scientific merit , or even of the most dubious scientific content, would you identify it for me - I certainly cannot locate one.
No.
I hope it pisses ya off. I really do. I hope Doc's posta make ya grind yer teeth an give ya a headache. I have a feelin they do. Yer bein a hypocrite, an ya durn well know it, an ya jes don't care.
No.
I hope it pisses ya off. I really do. I hope Doc's posta make ya grind yer teeth an give ya a headache. I have a feelin they do. Yer bein a hypocrite, an ya durn well know it, an ya jes don't care.
QUOTE (Edward 3+)
and this forum is being highjacked and will soon be nothing more than a playground for Doc & Co - a bunch of abusive juvenile delinquents
A bunch of juvenile delinquents? You know, it's not good to make baseless claims you can't back up...
Without the FM this forum would be a playground for several egotistical nutters. In fact, it already is, thanks to Zarkov, Farsight, StevenA, ubavontuba, dizamin...
Without the FM this forum would be a playground for several egotistical nutters. In fact, it already is, thanks to Zarkov, Farsight, StevenA, ubavontuba, dizamin...
As for the doc , I will show up anywhere I find him indulging in his childish bullying
You accuse me of trolling and then you do the exact same thing? Hypocrisy overload!
Irrelevant. You're condemning supposed trollish behavior when you're guilty of it yourself.
Irrelevant. You're condemning supposed trollish behavior when you're guilty of it yourself.
And, if he ever made a post of any scientific merit , or even of the most dubious scientific content, would you identify it for me - I certainly cannot locate one.
A bunch of juvenile delinquents? You know, it's not good to make baseless claims you can't back up...
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or maybe just one egotistical nutter!!
Without the FM this forum would be a playground for several egotistical nutters. In fact, it already is, thanks to Zarkov, Farsight, StevenA, ubavontuba, dizamin...
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| or maybe just one egotistical nutter!! |
Without the FM this forum would be a playground for several egotistical nutters. In fact, it already is, thanks to Zarkov, Farsight, StevenA, ubavontuba, dizamin...
As for the doc , I will show up anywhere I find him indulging in his childish bullying
You accuse me of trolling and then you do the exact same thing? Hypocrisy overload!
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and my activities pale alongside his crazed accumulation of abuse and insults.
Irrelevant. You're condemning supposed trollish behavior when you're guilty of it yourself.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| and my activities pale alongside his crazed accumulation of abuse and insults. |
Irrelevant. You're condemning supposed trollish behavior when you're guilty of it yourself.
And, if he ever made a post of any scientific merit , or even of the most dubious scientific content, would you identify it for me - I certainly cannot locate one.
As Bugs Bunny says, "What's up Doc!" You got my vote.
Dud1 has been one of the all-time biggest losers and idiots ever to post in this forum.
He has never seen the error of his ways, his failing logic, his lack of reasoning, his absence of proof, his paucity of evidence or his total inaneness! 
We have defended our arguments to such a higher level of credibility he can't even approach it. He has offered nothing more than "Bible-thumping" and he can't even find other religious kooks to back him up! He's really not worth wasting our time. I would much rather follow up on the latest developments at http://www.edge.org or here at Physorg.com than attempting to clarify science for the intellectually challenged Dud1!
He should visit those sited above or this one: http://www.rockefeller.edu/evolution/
If he could comprehend some real science, he would see where he has gone so far astray from reality it is laughable! (())
Dud1 has been one of the all-time biggest losers and idiots ever to post in this forum.
He has never seen the error of his ways, his failing logic, his lack of reasoning, his absence of proof, his paucity of evidence or his total inaneness! We have defended our arguments to such a higher level of credibility he can't even approach it. He has offered nothing more than "Bible-thumping" and he can't even find other religious kooks to back him up! He's really not worth wasting our time. I would much rather follow up on the latest developments at http://www.edge.org or here at Physorg.com than attempting to clarify science for the intellectually challenged Dud1!He should visit those sited above or this one: http://www.rockefeller.edu/evolution/
If he could comprehend some real science, he would see where he has gone so far astray from reality it is laughable! ((
))
QUOTE (photojack+)
As Bugs Bunny says, "What's up Doc!" You got my vote.
Thank you
So big an idiot that he's managed to get on FSTDT 38 times. Well, 39 with this quote that I submitted. It's almost painful to read.
With every passing moment dad1 is getting farther away from semi-plausibility and closer to nutjob.
Thank you
QUOTE
Dud1 has been one of the all-time biggest losers and idiots ever to post in this forum.
So big an idiot that he's managed to get on FSTDT 38 times. Well, 39 with this quote that I submitted. It's almost painful to read.
With every passing moment dad1 is getting farther away from semi-plausibility and closer to nutjob.
TheDoc, You're quite welcome! 
He reached nutjob status on his first post! 
There is nothing plausible about his denials at all! (())
HE IS TRULY ONE OF THE WACKIEST EVER TO POST HERE!
He reached nutjob status on his first post! There is nothing plausible about his denials at all! ((
))HE IS TRULY ONE OF THE WACKIEST EVER TO POST HERE!
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...45&#entry348014
QUOTE (dad1+ from the link above)
Still haven't focused enough to realize you are beat. OK.
I am not going to read 35 pages just to come to the same conclusion, that one should have on the very first post in that thread...
Peanut Butter gets my vote.
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When we know we don't know, we should not teach it like we do know.
Peanut Butter gets my vote.
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