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Meem
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090706/sc_...starswillbeborn

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SPACE.com Staff

SPACE.com Space.com Staff

space.com – Mon Jul 6, 8:31 am ET
Astronomers love their sky maps, and this latest is a doozie. It reveals thousands of previously undiscovered knots of cold cosmic dust, each a potential star waiting to be born.


The new atlas of dust covers the inner regions of our Milky Way Galaxy, where stars, gas and dust are all packed tightly together, where chaos reigns, where massive stars are born.


It's so dusty in there that optical telescopes can't see anything.


But cosmic material emits and reflects various forms of radiation besides the visible. The new observations were made in submillimeter-wavelength light, which is between infrared light and radio waves on the electromagnetic spectrum.
The data was collected by the European Southern Observatory's (ESO) APEX Telescope Large Area Survey of the Galaxy (ATLASGAL). It is the largest map of cold dust made so far, astronomers said.


"ATLASGAL gives us a new look at the Milky Way," said Frederic Schuller from the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy, leader of the ATLASGAL team. "Not only will it help us investigate how massive stars form, but it will also give us an overview of the larger-scale structure of our galaxy."


The area of the map covers a narrow strip of the galactic plane about two degrees wide (or four times the width of the full moon in our sky).


The interstellar medium -- the material between the stars -- is composed of gas and grains of cosmic dust, rather like fine sand or soot. However, the gas is mostly hydrogen and relatively difficult to detect, so astronomers often search for these dense regions by looking for the faint heat glow of the cosmic dust grains.


Submillimeter light allows astronomers to see these dust clouds shining, even though they obscure our view of the universe at visible light wavelengths. Accordingly, the ATLASGAL map includes the denser central regions of our galaxy, in the direction of the constellation of Sagittarius -- home to a supermassive black hole -- that are otherwise hidden behind a dark shroud of dust clouds.


The newly spotted dust clumps are typically a couple of light-years in size, and have masses of between ten and a few thousand times the mass of our sun, according to a statement released by the astronomers. In addition, ATLASGAL has captured images of beautiful filamentary structures and bubbles in the interstellar medium, blown by exploded stars and the winds of bright stars.


The ATLASGAL project is a collaboration between the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy, the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy, ESO, and the University of Chile.


That's way too mysterious sounding, I object ....
uaafanblog
I'm curious as to the "mystery" you're perceiving and the exact nature of your objection.
Meem
Mystery, never before seen or known? stardust getting hot again? I thought it should be cooling down ever since the "BB." I mean, I don't know for sure, maybe I should "day-dream" about the possibility of cosmic recycling? It's a mystery to me?

Do you know something that is not pointed out by this article that you could share with me? It seems we have ourselves a mystery. Fair enough? Cosmic dust, residual "BH" ... "dung?"
uaafanblog
Larger easier to see "Stellar Nurseries" have been observed for quite some time now. There is a famous picture of one of these larger areas in the Eagle Nebula which have been deemed "Pillars of Creation".

The article is referring to smaller (or perhaps less dense and or evolved) versions of this same well-known phenomena that they are now able to detect using the "submillimeter-wavelength" method.

It is interesting that I made an honest inquiry as to the nature of your short comment and you reply with 7 out of your 9 sentences (sic) being questions.
Meem
Well, my apologies for trying to understand the subtleties of the words you used, which is what I thought I was supposed to do, as implied by others members. I guess I fail at reading minds. Which is why I guess people here think I am crazy, for trying to stick to flat out words. I don't know any more, I am so confused. So I suppose I should just stop trying to communicate, it will make the world a better place. In the very least, these forums.

Peace out.
uaafanblog
QUOTE (Meem+Jul 7 2009, 01:46 AM)
Well, my apologies for trying to understand the subtleties of the words you used, which is what I thought I was supposed to do, as implied by others members.  I guess I fail at reading minds. Which is why I guess people here think I am crazy, for trying to stick to flat out words. I don't know any more, I am so confused. So I suppose I should just stop trying to communicate, it will make the world a better place. In the very least, these forums.

Peace out.

Oh gee. I'm so sorry. Let's take a look at what I said and see where I went wrong eh?

you said ...
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That's way too mysterious sounding, I object ....


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That's way too mysterious sounding, I object ....


I said ...
I'm curious as to the "mystery" you're perceiving and the exact nature of your objection.

I don't think there's much there that required you to read my mind. You posted a topic and linked to an article that is certainly worthy of discussion and can educate some readers here. That's what the forum is all about.

So I engage you in a discussion by asking to expound upon your undefined objections. It was a simple statement looking for clarification and you provided the 7 questions out of 9 sentences.

In my next reply I first provided the necessary information to clarify the issue and only mentioned your weird response as an interesting aside.

And now you want to take your bat and ball and run home? Go dude. Run home. As fast as you can.

You'll see no further communication from me. Count on it.
Farion
Not so mysterious, just shows our lack of knowledge in this field realistically.
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