Is There Evidence God Exists?
Yes. Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.
Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran
is from Allah and even accept Islam]
http://www.scienceislam.com/scientists_quran.php
The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the exact same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking at it.
No one sees or hears Allah, not even the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize this entire universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. This is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something we can understand.
We know from the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) the proofs for the existence of God (Allah) are most obvious to us in our everyday surroundings. Anyone with understanding would quickly acknowledge His existence provided they are not so stubborn as to ignore the obvious evidences right in front of us.
We don't have to see an artist to recognize a painting, correct? So, if we see paintings without seeing artists painting them, in the same way, we can believe Allah created everything without having to see Him (or touch, or hear, etc.).
What proof is there?
How Can we Prove There is a God?
Note: "Proving" God exists is really not our purpose. We are only interested in providing clear statements based on facts and logic and then allow the individual decide for themselves who they would like to believe. There have always been people who believed in the existence of God and there have always been those who have denied in His existence. We must realize there are those who will never believe no matter how much proof or evidence we produce. The reason is some people don't want to believe in a Creator or Sustainer. They would not like to consider one day they will have to answer for their actions and for their refusal to acknowledge their Benefactor to whom they owe their very existence. We come to know it is not so much a matter of us trying to convey our beliefs as it is for them to set aside preconceived prejudices against proper belief. Meaning: this is really a matter of guidance from Above. If they refuse even with evident proofs in front of them, this is not between us and them; it is between them and their Creator. Again, it is not our job to "prove" anything to anyone. We only need to present the facts in truth and allow the listener to make up their own mind.
We just begin with simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created and the way He cares for things and sustains us, to know there is no doubt of His existence.
One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them? Of course not."
Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not.
Or ask someone to consider what it would be like if someone told us about a fast food restaurant operating itself without any people there? The food just cooks itself, files from the kitchen to the table and then when we are done, the dishes jump back the kitchen to wash themselves. This is too crazy for anyone to even think about.
After reflecting on all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the cells in a microscope and then think all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident"?
http://www.godallah.com/
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 26 2009, 12:13 AM)
Is There Evidence God Exists?
Yes. Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.
Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran
is from Allah and even accept Islam]
http://www.scienceislam.com/scientists_quran.php
The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the exact same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking at it.
No one sees or hears Allah, not even the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize this entire universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. This is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something we can understand.
We know from the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) the proofs for the existence of God (Allah) are most obvious to us in our everyday surroundings. Anyone with understanding would quickly acknowledge His existence provided they are not so stubborn as to ignore the obvious evidences right in front of us.
We don't have to see an artist to recognize a painting, correct? So, if we see paintings without seeing artists painting them, in the same way, we can believe Allah created everything without having to see Him (or touch, or hear, etc.).
What proof is there?
How Can we Prove There is a God?
Note: "Proving" God exists is really not our purpose. We are only interested in providing clear statements based on facts and logic and then allow the individual decide for themselves who they would like to believe. There have always been people who believed in the existence of God and there have always been those who have denied in His existence. We must realize there are those who will never believe no matter how much proof or evidence we produce. The reason is some people don't want to believe in a Creator or Sustainer. They would not like to consider one day they will have to answer for their actions and for their refusal to acknowledge their Benefactor to whom they owe their very existence. We come to know it is not so much a matter of us trying to convey our beliefs as it is for them to set aside preconceived prejudices against proper belief. Meaning: this is really a matter of guidance from Above. If they refuse even with evident proofs in front of them, this is not between us and them; it is between them and their Creator. Again, it is not our job to "prove" anything to anyone. We only need to present the facts in truth and allow the listener to make up their own mind.
We just begin with simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created and the way He cares for things and sustains us, to know there is no doubt of His existence.
One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them? Of course not."
Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not.
Or ask someone to consider what it would be like if someone told us about a fast food restaurant operating itself without any people there? The food just cooks itself, files from the kitchen to the table and then when we are done, the dishes jump back the kitchen to wash themselves. This is too crazy for anyone to even think about.
After reflecting on all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the cells in a microscope and then think all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident"?
http://www.godallah.com/
ahmd.
proof is what people here seek, not here say. and allah is not in the habit of making his presence known other than through that funky thing you religious fanatics call "faith".
So, unless you have some concrete evidence that you can support, please, take your preaching elsewhere.
MM
Yes. Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.
Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah.
[Please visit "Science Proves Allah": Watch video of famous scientists admit Quran
is from Allah and even accept Islam]
http://www.scienceislam.com/scientists_quran.php
The Quran is the best of proofs for the existence of Allah and today over one and half billion people memorize and recite from the exact text, in the exact same language it was revealed in; Arabic. More than 10 million Muslims have completely memorized the entire Quran from cover to cover, and can recite it from memory without looking at it.
No one sees or hears Allah, not even the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize this entire universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. This is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something we can understand.
We know from the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) the proofs for the existence of God (Allah) are most obvious to us in our everyday surroundings. Anyone with understanding would quickly acknowledge His existence provided they are not so stubborn as to ignore the obvious evidences right in front of us.
We don't have to see an artist to recognize a painting, correct? So, if we see paintings without seeing artists painting them, in the same way, we can believe Allah created everything without having to see Him (or touch, or hear, etc.).
What proof is there?
How Can we Prove There is a God?
Note: "Proving" God exists is really not our purpose. We are only interested in providing clear statements based on facts and logic and then allow the individual decide for themselves who they would like to believe. There have always been people who believed in the existence of God and there have always been those who have denied in His existence. We must realize there are those who will never believe no matter how much proof or evidence we produce. The reason is some people don't want to believe in a Creator or Sustainer. They would not like to consider one day they will have to answer for their actions and for their refusal to acknowledge their Benefactor to whom they owe their very existence. We come to know it is not so much a matter of us trying to convey our beliefs as it is for them to set aside preconceived prejudices against proper belief. Meaning: this is really a matter of guidance from Above. If they refuse even with evident proofs in front of them, this is not between us and them; it is between them and their Creator. Again, it is not our job to "prove" anything to anyone. We only need to present the facts in truth and allow the listener to make up their own mind.
We just begin with simple logic. When something is right in front of our eyes it is difficult to deny it, right? Asking rhetorical questions can be very helpful in presenting our case. Begin by asking the question; "Can you prove you exist?" Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine what you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things He has created and the way He cares for things and sustains us, to know there is no doubt of His existence.
One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them? Of course not."
Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not.
Or ask someone to consider what it would be like if someone told us about a fast food restaurant operating itself without any people there? The food just cooks itself, files from the kitchen to the table and then when we are done, the dishes jump back the kitchen to wash themselves. This is too crazy for anyone to even think about.
After reflecting on all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the cells in a microscope and then think all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident"?
http://www.godallah.com/
ahmd.
proof is what people here seek, not here say. and allah is not in the habit of making his presence known other than through that funky thing you religious fanatics call "faith".
So, unless you have some concrete evidence that you can support, please, take your preaching elsewhere.
MM
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 25 2009, 08:13 PM)
Yes. Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Allah is imaginary and Mohammed was a d1ck.
Have a nice day.
Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.
Allah is imaginary and Mohammed was a d1ck.
Have a nice day.
QUOTE (Masked Marauder+Nov 26 2009, 12:17 AM)
unless you have some concrete evidence that you can support, please
MM
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The sea which is fire
In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
(We swear by the Altor mountain (1) And decree inscribed (2) In scroll which
is unfolded (3) And Al-Baitul Ma'moor (Celestial structure resembling and directly above the Holy Ka'ba in heaven) (4) And heavens elevated (5) And seas sitting on bed of fire (6)) The Mount
To grasp the splendor in this verse we must examine the Arabic Adjective used for the sea in the Quranic text which is cSLfQ" ", pronounced "masjoor". The word is used for something which lies on, and is subsequently heated by, combustion or heat of some other substance underneath.
For centuries, Arabs and Muslims were mystified and could not comprehend how fire and water could co-exist.
Then came modern age geology and the discovery of faults in Earth's crust; an intricate interconnected network of seemingly separate faults stretching for hundreds of kilometers and going 65-150 kilometers deep into earth. It being one major fault is plainly stated in another verse where God Almighty swears by the Earth and the Fault in its structure. Scientists have come to liken this fault to an intricate design welded around the sphere of a tennis ball.
The cracks allow molten lave to gush through so that there is constant collision between cool sea water. Too much heat for the water to quell and too much water, even for temperatures of over 1000 centigrade, to be turned into steam, this is a phenomenon astounding scientists till today.
In one experiment, Russian Geologist Anatol Sbagovich, Russian Geologist and Biologist Yuri Bagdanov and US scientist Rona Clint ventured 1750 kilometers off the coast of Miami and then boarded a sophisticated submarine and descended two miles below surface. The submarine rested on the end of a rock shelf and the submarine's acrylic window was the only barrier between them and scorching hot water springing from cracks at the seabed at temperatures around 231 centigrade.
The team noticed cool surface water rushing down to about a mile deep before it heats up and springs up again taking along debris and some molten matter. Science proved that this is a phenomenon to be found in all seas and oceans, though it is more frequent in certain places.
It was also found that volcanoes are more numerous and more active under water and that volcanoes stretch the entire seabed. With insufficient oxygen at such great depths, the lava gushing through is black-hot with no direct combustion. This serves as a tray, if you will, which heats up by the heat of lava underneath and heats up sea water, the exact image rendered in the Quranic diction and Arabic adjective cSLfQ"".
Great is His glory!
Reference : by Feras nour alhak
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MM
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The sea which is fire
In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
(We swear by the Altor mountain (1) And decree inscribed (2) In scroll which
is unfolded (3) And Al-Baitul Ma'moor (Celestial structure resembling and directly above the Holy Ka'ba in heaven) (4) And heavens elevated (5) And seas sitting on bed of fire (6)) The Mount
To grasp the splendor in this verse we must examine the Arabic Adjective used for the sea in the Quranic text which is cSLfQ" ", pronounced "masjoor". The word is used for something which lies on, and is subsequently heated by, combustion or heat of some other substance underneath.
For centuries, Arabs and Muslims were mystified and could not comprehend how fire and water could co-exist.
Then came modern age geology and the discovery of faults in Earth's crust; an intricate interconnected network of seemingly separate faults stretching for hundreds of kilometers and going 65-150 kilometers deep into earth. It being one major fault is plainly stated in another verse where God Almighty swears by the Earth and the Fault in its structure. Scientists have come to liken this fault to an intricate design welded around the sphere of a tennis ball.
The cracks allow molten lave to gush through so that there is constant collision between cool sea water. Too much heat for the water to quell and too much water, even for temperatures of over 1000 centigrade, to be turned into steam, this is a phenomenon astounding scientists till today.
In one experiment, Russian Geologist Anatol Sbagovich, Russian Geologist and Biologist Yuri Bagdanov and US scientist Rona Clint ventured 1750 kilometers off the coast of Miami and then boarded a sophisticated submarine and descended two miles below surface. The submarine rested on the end of a rock shelf and the submarine's acrylic window was the only barrier between them and scorching hot water springing from cracks at the seabed at temperatures around 231 centigrade.
The team noticed cool surface water rushing down to about a mile deep before it heats up and springs up again taking along debris and some molten matter. Science proved that this is a phenomenon to be found in all seas and oceans, though it is more frequent in certain places.
It was also found that volcanoes are more numerous and more active under water and that volcanoes stretch the entire seabed. With insufficient oxygen at such great depths, the lava gushing through is black-hot with no direct combustion. This serves as a tray, if you will, which heats up by the heat of lava underneath and heats up sea water, the exact image rendered in the Quranic diction and Arabic adjective cSLfQ"".
Great is His glory!
Reference : by Feras nour alhak
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Pulsar
By : Magdy Abd Al-Shafy
What does Holy Quran says about the pulsar
The Holy Quran , the last revealed authenticated book
is replete with scientific facts that have been discovered already and have become scientifically established ,and there are still many to be discovered in the course of time . One might ask why ? the answer is : besides the many other miracle of the prophet that are the same as Jesus and Moses and even Abraham , the Holy Quran is the immortal miracle which is considered the true miracle of prophet Mohummmed . People in every age can see its miracle . We are now at the age of science . People , to believe in God , needs miracles that match the miracle of this age , The time of Moses was the age of magic , so Moses' were some thing that overpowered magic and even excelled this magic ,people in the time of Jesus were clever in medicine , So most of Jesus miracles were something medical , he cured many incurable diseases. Though I truly believe in them , some people are scrupulous about these as they did not see them themselves.
So , now , what is best way to convince those atheists of the existence of God and what is the best way to prove the divinity of any book that its adherents claim its divinity – It should be something suitable to the age –the age of science.
The Holy Quran gives the answer and even stands in the face of all the claims of atheism
Among the many scientific facts that are mentioned is the Pulsar
God says in the Holy Quran what could be translated " Soon will We show them Our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
The universe , as Islam , considers the open Book that proves the existence of God;many scientific facts were mentioned in the Holy Quran to strengthen the belief of the believers and to take people back to God.
The Holy Quran mentions the pulsar by one of its most outstanding features ; Read the following verse from the Holy Quran :
والسماء والطارق وما أدراك ما الطارق النجم الثاقب ان كل نفس لما عليها حافظ
God says in the Holy Quran " I swear] by Heaven and the Tariq ( The Knocker ) ! And what will convey to you what the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]! (Qur'an, 86:1-3) "
The word ( Tarek and the word Al-thakeb ) are two different Arabic words that are used in the above-mentioned verse to describe the Pulsar , the word Altarek means in English " the Knocker or that beats quickly and the word " Al-thakeb" means " piercing ", these two characteristics ( knocker and piercing ) are one of the most specific features of pulsar .
Let's first read the following information about the pulsar and we will be back again to the holy verse.
Pulsars originate when an old, massive star explodes as a supernova. In this process, the core of the star implodes. The core collapses through the white dwarf stage until its constituent protons and electrons combine to form neutrons. If it is not too massive (less than 1.4 times the mass of the Sun) it can stabilize at this point as a very hot, incredibly dense ball of neutrons with a thin crust of ordinary matter on its surface. Neutron stars are spinning rapidly when they form - up to about 800 and even one thousand rotations per second - and slow down as they age. These pulses of the pulsar are reminiscent of heart-beats or someone's knocking quickly at door.
pulsar is a highly magnetized neutron star, with a radius of 10-15 km, having somewhat greater mass than the Sun which has a radius of approximately 1 million km. Radiation is beamed out along the magnetic poles and pulses of radiation are received as the beam crosses the Earth, in the same manner as the beam from a lighthouse causes flashes. Being enormous cosmic flywheels with a tick attached, they make some of the best clocks known to mankind.
Diagram of a pulsar
A diagram of a pulsar, showing its rotation axis and its magnetic axis
Because they are so small, most neutron stars cannot be seen with optical telescopes, even very large ones. However, they have extremely strong magnetic fields.
Neutron stars form as the nuclei of super giant stars collapse. The highly compressed and dense matter, in the form of a rapidly revolving sphere, entraps and squeezes most of the star's weight and magnetic field. The powerful magnetic field created by these rapidly revolving neutron stars has been shown to cause the emission of powerful radio waves observable on Earth.
The magnetic field creates a hot-spot above each magnetic pole, which produces an intense beam of radiation that is strongest at radio wavelengths.
The Crab Nebula From the Ground (left) and Its Interior With Pulsar
The magnetic field axis is offset from the rotation (spin) axis. Hence if the pulsar is oriented suitably so that the beam can shine in our direction, as the pulsar spins we detect a pulse of radio waves each time the beam flashes past the radio telescope. The rotating lights on emergency vehicles produces flashes in the same way. Neutron stars have very intense magnetic fields, about 1,000,000,000,000 times stronger than Earth's own field. However, the axis of the magnetic field is not aligned with the neutron star's rotation axis. The combination of this strong magnetic field and the rapid rotation of the neutron star produces extremely powerful electric fields, with electric potential in excess of 1,000,000,000,000 volts. Electrons are accelerated to high velocities by these strong electric fields.
Read the following comparison
Typical Magnetic Field srengths
object Strength (Gauss)
Earth magnetic Field 0.6
Simple iron bar magnet 100
Strongest sustained laboratory fields 4 x 105
Strongest man-made fields (millisecond duration 107
Maximum field for ordinary stars 106
Typical fields for radio pulsars 1012
Magnetars 1014 - 1015
As matter grows denser in the core as it revolves around its own axis, the star's magnetic field also grows stronger, and thus gives rise to a magnetic field at its poles 1 trillion times stronger than that of Earth. They realised that a body revolving so fast and with such a powerful magnetic field emits rays consisting of very powerful radio waves in a conic form at every revolution. Shortly afterwards, it was also realised that the source of these signals is the rapid revolution of neutron stars.
artist concept of neutron star
This image shows strong magnetic fields running in loops from pole to pole. Radiation in the form of X-rays appears to pulse on and off as hot patches of gas are exposed at the poles with the neutron star's rotation. (The axis of rotation is different from the axis of the magnetic field.)
The word "pulsar" comes from the verb to pulse. According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the word means to pulsate, to beat. Encarta Dictionary defines it as to beat rhythmically, to move or throb with a strong regular rhythm. Again, according to the Encarta Dictionary, the word "pulsate," which comes from the same root, means to expand and contract with a strong regular beat.
Following that discovery, it was realised that the phenomenon described in the Qur'an as "tariq," beating, bore a great similarity to the neutron stars known as pulsars.
Neutron Star Anatomy
a neutron star's anatomy is very simple, and it has three main layers: A solid core, a "liquid" mantle, and a thin, solid crust. Neutron stars also have a very tiny (a few centimeters - about an inch) atmosphere, but this is not very important in the functioning of the star. Typical sizes for these parts are about 1 km for the crust, and 10 km for the mantle and core combined.
A model of a neutron star's internal structure
A model of a neutron star's internal structure
A neutron star also has two axes - a magnetic one and an axis of rotation. Just as Earth's magnetic axis does not run through the geographic poles, a neutron star's axes rarely line up.
We can say that a neutron star is a star made entirely out of neutrons, as the name suggests. These are the remains of stars that had between 1.4 and 9 times the mass of our sun (solar masses). After a star goes nova, the remaining core collapses while the outer layers are blasted off into space to create a nebula. Gravity shrinks and condenses the core into a sphere about the size of Manhattan (25 km (15 mile) diameter) within a few seconds. A neutron star is so dense that a pinhead's worth of material from one would weigh as much as a supertanker.
PSR_Size
Compare the diameter of the pulsar , the earth and the sun
So a pulsar is a star - a very small, unusual star, though, with a diameter of about 20km. Compare this with our Sun, which is an "ordinary" star:
Back again to the Holy Quran
[I swear] by Heaven and the Tariq ( The Knocker ) ! And what will convey to you what the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]! (Qur'an, 86:1-3)
God in the above mentioned verse , though He needn't swear , Did swear by that star.when God swears , he swears by something great and also what He swear on is assuredly great.
The word "Tariq," name of the Sura 86, comes from the Arabic root "tarq," whose basic meaning is that of striking hard enough to produce a sound, or hitting. Bearing in mind the word's possible meaning as "beating," "striking hard," our attention may be being drawn in this sura to an important scientific fact. Before analysing this information, let us look at the other words employed in the verse to describe these stars. The term "al-taariqi" in the above verse means a star that pierces the night, that pierces the darkness, born at night, piercing and moving on, beating, striking, or sharp star. Furthermore, the term "wa" draws attention to the things being sworn on-the heaven and the Tariq.
press here to listen to the pulsar
In the third verse of Surat at-Tariq the term "al-najmu al-thaaqibu," meaning piercing, moving on, or opening holes, indicates that Tariq is a bright star that pierces a hole in the darkness and moves on. The concept of the term "adraaka" in the expression "And what will convey to you what the Tariq is?" refers to comprehension. Pulsars, formed through the compression of stars several times the size of the Sun, are among those celestial bodies that are hard to comprehend. The question in the verse emphasizes how hard it is to comprehend this beating star. (Allah knows best.
As discussed, the stars described as Tariq in the Qur'an bear a close similarity to the pulsars described in the 20th century, and may reveal to us another scientific miracle of the Qur'an.
The significance of the word piercing
The word " piercing " in Arabic has three meanings and all these meanings match description of the pulsar
(a)(Althakeb in Arabic means , according to Arabic dictionary ,piercing , this star is composed of neutrons which are electrically neutral . A neutron is the heaviest particles in the atom , being electrically neutral , it penetrates the atom easily . so the word " piercing in the holy Quran" is the best word to describe this feature of the pulsar,
(b)This star emits very strong waves that pierce anything whatever it could be , it pierces even our bodies . Though these stars are so far , the effect of these stars was found at the bottom of the seas . So the Quran , God's wordhas used the Arabic word"Thakeb " in English "piercing " to describe this star by one of its features
The Holy verse in the Holy Quran refers assuredly to the pulsar,and not to any othercelestial object ,simply because of the following points :
Characteristics of the celestial object mentioned in 86:1-3 are:
1- It pulsates (knocks) 2- It is a star 3- It penetrates, pierces, drills.
These pulsars , though originate in massive explosion being encompassed with dense matter , they strikingly begin to shine with strong light and radiation that pierce every celestial body , the Quranic word " Thakeb " gives the two meanings . Scientists use many words to describe these pulsars but the Holy Quran use just two words that imply all the characteristics of the pulsar .
The rest of the holy verse adds a new unseen fact , it states that every one of us has angels , these angels write down what man does , nothing could escape them . So fast are they , their fastness associates harmoniously with the fastness of pulsars that reach up to one thousand rotations per second . Everyone will be reckoned for every thing .In another verse God says what means says "When the earth is shaken to her (utmost) convulsion, And the Earth throws up her burdens (from within), And man cries (distressed): What is the matter with her? On that Day will she declare her tidings: For that thy Lord will have given her inspiration. On that Day will men proceed in companies sorted out, to be shown the Deeds that they (had done). Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it! And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it."
In another verse God says what means says " Not a word does he utter but there is a sentinel by him, ready (to note it). "
In another verse God says what means says "That man can have nothing but what he strives for"
In another word God what means says "O ye who believe! Fear God, and let every soul look to what (provision) he has sent forth for the morrow. Yea, fear God: for God is well acquainted with (all) that ye do."
And now :
Having read this article ,one should ask himself these questions :
How did prophet Mohummed , who was unlettered ,know this amazing fact that has been discovered recently ?
How did he know this very specific feature of this star?
How could he , if he was imposter , talk about these facts that science will give its opinion about later ?
The Answer is: "It is God , the creator , the All-knowing, Who reveasled facts in the Holy Quran.
When one reads this miracle and the all the other miracles in the Holy Quran , one must believe in the Holy Quran as God's final word to the world.
Do you still need proves that Islam is God's final word?
What is sworn on in this verse?
Man doesn't stand alone in this life ; that is what the rest of the verse implies ; the swore by a sensible object for something unseen : Man was created in this life to know God and to worship Him
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By : Magdy Abd Al-Shafy
What does Holy Quran says about the pulsar
The Holy Quran , the last revealed authenticated book
is replete with scientific facts that have been discovered already and have become scientifically established ,and there are still many to be discovered in the course of time . One might ask why ? the answer is : besides the many other miracle of the prophet that are the same as Jesus and Moses and even Abraham , the Holy Quran is the immortal miracle which is considered the true miracle of prophet Mohummmed . People in every age can see its miracle . We are now at the age of science . People , to believe in God , needs miracles that match the miracle of this age , The time of Moses was the age of magic , so Moses' were some thing that overpowered magic and even excelled this magic ,people in the time of Jesus were clever in medicine , So most of Jesus miracles were something medical , he cured many incurable diseases. Though I truly believe in them , some people are scrupulous about these as they did not see them themselves.
So , now , what is best way to convince those atheists of the existence of God and what is the best way to prove the divinity of any book that its adherents claim its divinity – It should be something suitable to the age –the age of science.
The Holy Quran gives the answer and even stands in the face of all the claims of atheism
Among the many scientific facts that are mentioned is the Pulsar
God says in the Holy Quran what could be translated " Soon will We show them Our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?"
The universe , as Islam , considers the open Book that proves the existence of God;many scientific facts were mentioned in the Holy Quran to strengthen the belief of the believers and to take people back to God.
The Holy Quran mentions the pulsar by one of its most outstanding features ; Read the following verse from the Holy Quran :
والسماء والطارق وما أدراك ما الطارق النجم الثاقب ان كل نفس لما عليها حافظ
God says in the Holy Quran " I swear] by Heaven and the Tariq ( The Knocker ) ! And what will convey to you what the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]! (Qur'an, 86:1-3) "
The word ( Tarek and the word Al-thakeb ) are two different Arabic words that are used in the above-mentioned verse to describe the Pulsar , the word Altarek means in English " the Knocker or that beats quickly and the word " Al-thakeb" means " piercing ", these two characteristics ( knocker and piercing ) are one of the most specific features of pulsar .
Let's first read the following information about the pulsar and we will be back again to the holy verse.
Pulsars originate when an old, massive star explodes as a supernova. In this process, the core of the star implodes. The core collapses through the white dwarf stage until its constituent protons and electrons combine to form neutrons. If it is not too massive (less than 1.4 times the mass of the Sun) it can stabilize at this point as a very hot, incredibly dense ball of neutrons with a thin crust of ordinary matter on its surface. Neutron stars are spinning rapidly when they form - up to about 800 and even one thousand rotations per second - and slow down as they age. These pulses of the pulsar are reminiscent of heart-beats or someone's knocking quickly at door.
pulsar is a highly magnetized neutron star, with a radius of 10-15 km, having somewhat greater mass than the Sun which has a radius of approximately 1 million km. Radiation is beamed out along the magnetic poles and pulses of radiation are received as the beam crosses the Earth, in the same manner as the beam from a lighthouse causes flashes. Being enormous cosmic flywheels with a tick attached, they make some of the best clocks known to mankind.
Diagram of a pulsar
A diagram of a pulsar, showing its rotation axis and its magnetic axis
Because they are so small, most neutron stars cannot be seen with optical telescopes, even very large ones. However, they have extremely strong magnetic fields.
Neutron stars form as the nuclei of super giant stars collapse. The highly compressed and dense matter, in the form of a rapidly revolving sphere, entraps and squeezes most of the star's weight and magnetic field. The powerful magnetic field created by these rapidly revolving neutron stars has been shown to cause the emission of powerful radio waves observable on Earth.
The magnetic field creates a hot-spot above each magnetic pole, which produces an intense beam of radiation that is strongest at radio wavelengths.
The Crab Nebula From the Ground (left) and Its Interior With Pulsar
The magnetic field axis is offset from the rotation (spin) axis. Hence if the pulsar is oriented suitably so that the beam can shine in our direction, as the pulsar spins we detect a pulse of radio waves each time the beam flashes past the radio telescope. The rotating lights on emergency vehicles produces flashes in the same way. Neutron stars have very intense magnetic fields, about 1,000,000,000,000 times stronger than Earth's own field. However, the axis of the magnetic field is not aligned with the neutron star's rotation axis. The combination of this strong magnetic field and the rapid rotation of the neutron star produces extremely powerful electric fields, with electric potential in excess of 1,000,000,000,000 volts. Electrons are accelerated to high velocities by these strong electric fields.
Read the following comparison
Typical Magnetic Field srengths
object Strength (Gauss)
Earth magnetic Field 0.6
Simple iron bar magnet 100
Strongest sustained laboratory fields 4 x 105
Strongest man-made fields (millisecond duration 107
Maximum field for ordinary stars 106
Typical fields for radio pulsars 1012
Magnetars 1014 - 1015
As matter grows denser in the core as it revolves around its own axis, the star's magnetic field also grows stronger, and thus gives rise to a magnetic field at its poles 1 trillion times stronger than that of Earth. They realised that a body revolving so fast and with such a powerful magnetic field emits rays consisting of very powerful radio waves in a conic form at every revolution. Shortly afterwards, it was also realised that the source of these signals is the rapid revolution of neutron stars.
artist concept of neutron star
This image shows strong magnetic fields running in loops from pole to pole. Radiation in the form of X-rays appears to pulse on and off as hot patches of gas are exposed at the poles with the neutron star's rotation. (The axis of rotation is different from the axis of the magnetic field.)
The word "pulsar" comes from the verb to pulse. According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the word means to pulsate, to beat. Encarta Dictionary defines it as to beat rhythmically, to move or throb with a strong regular rhythm. Again, according to the Encarta Dictionary, the word "pulsate," which comes from the same root, means to expand and contract with a strong regular beat.
Following that discovery, it was realised that the phenomenon described in the Qur'an as "tariq," beating, bore a great similarity to the neutron stars known as pulsars.
Neutron Star Anatomy
a neutron star's anatomy is very simple, and it has three main layers: A solid core, a "liquid" mantle, and a thin, solid crust. Neutron stars also have a very tiny (a few centimeters - about an inch) atmosphere, but this is not very important in the functioning of the star. Typical sizes for these parts are about 1 km for the crust, and 10 km for the mantle and core combined.
A model of a neutron star's internal structure
A model of a neutron star's internal structure
A neutron star also has two axes - a magnetic one and an axis of rotation. Just as Earth's magnetic axis does not run through the geographic poles, a neutron star's axes rarely line up.
We can say that a neutron star is a star made entirely out of neutrons, as the name suggests. These are the remains of stars that had between 1.4 and 9 times the mass of our sun (solar masses). After a star goes nova, the remaining core collapses while the outer layers are blasted off into space to create a nebula. Gravity shrinks and condenses the core into a sphere about the size of Manhattan (25 km (15 mile) diameter) within a few seconds. A neutron star is so dense that a pinhead's worth of material from one would weigh as much as a supertanker.
PSR_Size
Compare the diameter of the pulsar , the earth and the sun
So a pulsar is a star - a very small, unusual star, though, with a diameter of about 20km. Compare this with our Sun, which is an "ordinary" star:
Back again to the Holy Quran
[I swear] by Heaven and the Tariq ( The Knocker ) ! And what will convey to you what the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]! (Qur'an, 86:1-3)
God in the above mentioned verse , though He needn't swear , Did swear by that star.when God swears , he swears by something great and also what He swear on is assuredly great.
The word "Tariq," name of the Sura 86, comes from the Arabic root "tarq," whose basic meaning is that of striking hard enough to produce a sound, or hitting. Bearing in mind the word's possible meaning as "beating," "striking hard," our attention may be being drawn in this sura to an important scientific fact. Before analysing this information, let us look at the other words employed in the verse to describe these stars. The term "al-taariqi" in the above verse means a star that pierces the night, that pierces the darkness, born at night, piercing and moving on, beating, striking, or sharp star. Furthermore, the term "wa" draws attention to the things being sworn on-the heaven and the Tariq.
press here to listen to the pulsar
In the third verse of Surat at-Tariq the term "al-najmu al-thaaqibu," meaning piercing, moving on, or opening holes, indicates that Tariq is a bright star that pierces a hole in the darkness and moves on. The concept of the term "adraaka" in the expression "And what will convey to you what the Tariq is?" refers to comprehension. Pulsars, formed through the compression of stars several times the size of the Sun, are among those celestial bodies that are hard to comprehend. The question in the verse emphasizes how hard it is to comprehend this beating star. (Allah knows best.
As discussed, the stars described as Tariq in the Qur'an bear a close similarity to the pulsars described in the 20th century, and may reveal to us another scientific miracle of the Qur'an.
The significance of the word piercing
The word " piercing " in Arabic has three meanings and all these meanings match description of the pulsar
(a)(Althakeb in Arabic means , according to Arabic dictionary ,piercing , this star is composed of neutrons which are electrically neutral . A neutron is the heaviest particles in the atom , being electrically neutral , it penetrates the atom easily . so the word " piercing in the holy Quran" is the best word to describe this feature of the pulsar,
(b)This star emits very strong waves that pierce anything whatever it could be , it pierces even our bodies . Though these stars are so far , the effect of these stars was found at the bottom of the seas . So the Quran , God's wordhas used the Arabic word"Thakeb " in English "piercing " to describe this star by one of its features
The Holy verse in the Holy Quran refers assuredly to the pulsar,and not to any othercelestial object ,simply because of the following points :
Characteristics of the celestial object mentioned in 86:1-3 are:
1- It pulsates (knocks) 2- It is a star 3- It penetrates, pierces, drills.
These pulsars , though originate in massive explosion being encompassed with dense matter , they strikingly begin to shine with strong light and radiation that pierce every celestial body , the Quranic word " Thakeb " gives the two meanings . Scientists use many words to describe these pulsars but the Holy Quran use just two words that imply all the characteristics of the pulsar .
The rest of the holy verse adds a new unseen fact , it states that every one of us has angels , these angels write down what man does , nothing could escape them . So fast are they , their fastness associates harmoniously with the fastness of pulsars that reach up to one thousand rotations per second . Everyone will be reckoned for every thing .In another verse God says what means says "When the earth is shaken to her (utmost) convulsion, And the Earth throws up her burdens (from within), And man cries (distressed): What is the matter with her? On that Day will she declare her tidings: For that thy Lord will have given her inspiration. On that Day will men proceed in companies sorted out, to be shown the Deeds that they (had done). Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it! And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it."
In another verse God says what means says " Not a word does he utter but there is a sentinel by him, ready (to note it). "
In another verse God says what means says "That man can have nothing but what he strives for"
In another word God what means says "O ye who believe! Fear God, and let every soul look to what (provision) he has sent forth for the morrow. Yea, fear God: for God is well acquainted with (all) that ye do."
And now :
Having read this article ,one should ask himself these questions :
How did prophet Mohummed , who was unlettered ,know this amazing fact that has been discovered recently ?
How did he know this very specific feature of this star?
How could he , if he was imposter , talk about these facts that science will give its opinion about later ?
The Answer is: "It is God , the creator , the All-knowing, Who reveasled facts in the Holy Quran.
When one reads this miracle and the all the other miracles in the Holy Quran , one must believe in the Holy Quran as God's final word to the world.
Do you still need proves that Islam is God's final word?
What is sworn on in this verse?
Man doesn't stand alone in this life ; that is what the rest of the verse implies ; the swore by a sensible object for something unseen : Man was created in this life to know God and to worship Him
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...verse&Itemid=91
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The Miracle and Challenge of the Quran
With an introduction by Magdy Abd Al-SHafy
The Holy Quran is a miracle that beggars description , words fail to describe this miracle , it is a miracle in the full sense of the term . Different specialists ,
according to the branch of science they are specialized in , find it miraculous . Prophet Mohummed said commenting on the Holy Quran saying " it unfolds the secrets of the nations that preceded you , and secrets of the future treasured in it " It is the Holy Book that Jinnee , on hearing to it , did not leave their place till they believed in it . It is the book which unbelievers gave positive witness to .
Dr. Keith L. Moore is a Professor of Anatomy and Cell Biology, University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. He is a world renowned scientist and a distinguished researcher in the fields of anatomy and embryology, he has published more than 150 research articles, chapters and books in this field. He is the author of several medical textbooks, such as the widely used and acclaimed "The Developing Human: Clinically oriented Embryology" (now in it's fifth edition, and translated into eight different languages), "Before We Are Born" and "Clinically Oriented Anatomy." He has also recently co-authored "Qur'an and Modern Science, Correlation Studies." Dr. Moore is the recipient of numerous awards and honors, including, in 1984, the J.C.B. Grant Award, which is the highest honor granted by the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has served in many academic and administrative positions, including the President of the Canadian Association of Anatomists, 1968-1970. Let us see what Dr. Moore's opinion is on the scientific statements regarding embryology to be found in the Qur'an:
Dr. Moore was contacted by a Muslim scholar by the name of Abdul-Majeed Azzindani. He was asked to participate in a three-year study of around twenty-five verses of the Qur'an and the Sunnah (sayings of Muhammad, pbuh) which speak about embryology, and to determine the their correspondence to modern scientific discoveries. Dr. Moore's conclusion regarding this matter was:
"For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them to interpret the many statements in the Qur'an and the Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the seventh century AD, before the science of embryology was established. Although I was aware of the glorious history of Muslim scientists in the 10th century AD, and of some of their contributions to Medicine, I knew nothing about the religious facts and beliefs contained in the Qur'an and Sunnah. It is important for Islamic and other students to understand the meaning of these Qur'anic statements about human development, based on current scientific knowledge. The interpretations of the "verses" in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, translated by Shaikh Azzindani, are to the best of my knowledge accurate."
From the forward of "The Developing Human: Clinically oriented Embryology," third edition, by Dr. Keith L. Moore.
The Qur'an and the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) provide a very detailed description of the microscopic development of the human embryo from a mere sperm drop up to the stage of a completely formed human being. It is well known that microscopes were not developed until the sixteenth century AD, and even at that were very crude in design. Zacharias Janssen is credited with having invented the compound microscope in about 1590. With it, remarkable scientific discoveries were made in the 17th and 18th centuries. The Dutch naturalist Anthony van Leeuwenhoek produced lenses powerful enough to prove that many tiny creatures are not spontaneously generated but come from eggs.
Before this period, theories on human reproduction ran rampant. Some scientist believed that the menstrual blood itself developed into the fetus. Later on, a new theory was developed wherein the sperm drop was popularly believed to contain a completely developed miniature human (homunculus) which later grew to the size of a baby. The science of embryology as we know it today did not discover many of the detailed aspects of human development which are taken for granted today until only about twenty years ago, or 1973 to be precise.
Now we must ask the question: where did Muhammad (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) get such detailed knowledge of the microscopic development of the human embryo in the 6th century AD without a microscope, technical training, a laboratory of any kind, or even the ability to write his own name? The only logical conclusion is that it came from exactly where he claimed it did. From the one who created mankind, God Almighty!
Prof. Moore has since given numerous lectures on the topic of embryology in the Qur'an. He is quoted in one of these lectures as saying: "It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God, or Allah."
Prof. Moore was so impressed with the Qur'anic classification of the stages of development of the human embryo, that he suggested the adoption of the Qur'anic system in place of the system currently in use by scientists today. Prof. Moore said: "Because the staging of the human embryo is complex owing to the continuous process of change during development. It is therefore suggested that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Qur'an and the Sunnah. The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge."
When Dr. Moore first presented his findings in Toronto it caused quite a stir throughout Canada. It was on the front pages of some of the newspapers across Canada . One newspaper reporter asked Professor Moore,
"Don't you think That maybe the Arabs might have known about these things - the description of the embryo, its appearance and how it changes and grows? Maybe there were not scientists, but maybe they did some crude dissections on their own - carved up people and examined these things."
Professor Morre immediately pointed out to him, however, that he had missed a very important point. All of the slides of the embryo that Dr. Moore had based his study upon had come from pictures taken through a microscope. He said, "It does not matter if someone had tried to discover embryology fourteen centuries ago, they could not have seen it!." Dr. Moore taunted, "Maybe fourteen centuries ago someone secretly had a microscope and did this research, making no mistakes anywhere. Then he somehow taught Muhammad and convinced him to put this information in his book. Then he destroyed his equipment and kept it a secret forever?. Do you believe that? You really should not unless you bring some proof because it is such a ridiculous theory."
When he was asked "How do you explain this information in the Qur'an?" Dr. Moore's reply was, "It could only have been divinely revealed."
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QUOTE (Masked Marauder @ Nov 26 2009, 12:17 AM)
unless you have some concrete evidence that you can support, please
MM
Is sufficient for you, or you want more?
With an introduction by Magdy Abd Al-SHafy
The Holy Quran is a miracle that beggars description , words fail to describe this miracle , it is a miracle in the full sense of the term . Different specialists ,
according to the branch of science they are specialized in , find it miraculous . Prophet Mohummed said commenting on the Holy Quran saying " it unfolds the secrets of the nations that preceded you , and secrets of the future treasured in it " It is the Holy Book that Jinnee , on hearing to it , did not leave their place till they believed in it . It is the book which unbelievers gave positive witness to .
Dr. Keith L. Moore is a Professor of Anatomy and Cell Biology, University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. He is a world renowned scientist and a distinguished researcher in the fields of anatomy and embryology, he has published more than 150 research articles, chapters and books in this field. He is the author of several medical textbooks, such as the widely used and acclaimed "The Developing Human: Clinically oriented Embryology" (now in it's fifth edition, and translated into eight different languages), "Before We Are Born" and "Clinically Oriented Anatomy." He has also recently co-authored "Qur'an and Modern Science, Correlation Studies." Dr. Moore is the recipient of numerous awards and honors, including, in 1984, the J.C.B. Grant Award, which is the highest honor granted by the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has served in many academic and administrative positions, including the President of the Canadian Association of Anatomists, 1968-1970. Let us see what Dr. Moore's opinion is on the scientific statements regarding embryology to be found in the Qur'an:
Dr. Moore was contacted by a Muslim scholar by the name of Abdul-Majeed Azzindani. He was asked to participate in a three-year study of around twenty-five verses of the Qur'an and the Sunnah (sayings of Muhammad, pbuh) which speak about embryology, and to determine the their correspondence to modern scientific discoveries. Dr. Moore's conclusion regarding this matter was:
"For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them to interpret the many statements in the Qur'an and the Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the seventh century AD, before the science of embryology was established. Although I was aware of the glorious history of Muslim scientists in the 10th century AD, and of some of their contributions to Medicine, I knew nothing about the religious facts and beliefs contained in the Qur'an and Sunnah. It is important for Islamic and other students to understand the meaning of these Qur'anic statements about human development, based on current scientific knowledge. The interpretations of the "verses" in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, translated by Shaikh Azzindani, are to the best of my knowledge accurate."
From the forward of "The Developing Human: Clinically oriented Embryology," third edition, by Dr. Keith L. Moore.
The Qur'an and the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) provide a very detailed description of the microscopic development of the human embryo from a mere sperm drop up to the stage of a completely formed human being. It is well known that microscopes were not developed until the sixteenth century AD, and even at that were very crude in design. Zacharias Janssen is credited with having invented the compound microscope in about 1590. With it, remarkable scientific discoveries were made in the 17th and 18th centuries. The Dutch naturalist Anthony van Leeuwenhoek produced lenses powerful enough to prove that many tiny creatures are not spontaneously generated but come from eggs.
Before this period, theories on human reproduction ran rampant. Some scientist believed that the menstrual blood itself developed into the fetus. Later on, a new theory was developed wherein the sperm drop was popularly believed to contain a completely developed miniature human (homunculus) which later grew to the size of a baby. The science of embryology as we know it today did not discover many of the detailed aspects of human development which are taken for granted today until only about twenty years ago, or 1973 to be precise.
Now we must ask the question: where did Muhammad (Sallalahu Alayhi Wasallam) get such detailed knowledge of the microscopic development of the human embryo in the 6th century AD without a microscope, technical training, a laboratory of any kind, or even the ability to write his own name? The only logical conclusion is that it came from exactly where he claimed it did. From the one who created mankind, God Almighty!
Prof. Moore has since given numerous lectures on the topic of embryology in the Qur'an. He is quoted in one of these lectures as saying: "It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God, or Allah."
Prof. Moore was so impressed with the Qur'anic classification of the stages of development of the human embryo, that he suggested the adoption of the Qur'anic system in place of the system currently in use by scientists today. Prof. Moore said: "Because the staging of the human embryo is complex owing to the continuous process of change during development. It is therefore suggested that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Qur'an and the Sunnah. The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge."
When Dr. Moore first presented his findings in Toronto it caused quite a stir throughout Canada. It was on the front pages of some of the newspapers across Canada . One newspaper reporter asked Professor Moore,
"Don't you think That maybe the Arabs might have known about these things - the description of the embryo, its appearance and how it changes and grows? Maybe there were not scientists, but maybe they did some crude dissections on their own - carved up people and examined these things."
Professor Morre immediately pointed out to him, however, that he had missed a very important point. All of the slides of the embryo that Dr. Moore had based his study upon had come from pictures taken through a microscope. He said, "It does not matter if someone had tried to discover embryology fourteen centuries ago, they could not have seen it!." Dr. Moore taunted, "Maybe fourteen centuries ago someone secretly had a microscope and did this research, making no mistakes anywhere. Then he somehow taught Muhammad and convinced him to put this information in his book. Then he destroyed his equipment and kept it a secret forever?. Do you believe that? You really should not unless you bring some proof because it is such a ridiculous theory."
When he was asked "How do you explain this information in the Qur'an?" Dr. Moore's reply was, "It could only have been divinely revealed."
Iterated by Br. Mohamed Rawat
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...human&Itemid=94
QUOTE (Masked Marauder @ Nov 26 2009, 12:17 AM)
unless you have some concrete evidence that you can support, please
MM
Is sufficient for you, or you want more?
There are a lot of religions that have hints of future science in their mythologies. Hinduism, Norse, Kabbalism...to name a few. So, who is right? All of them get a few things right and a whole lot wrong when it comes to proven facts. Why favor any one?
HI Empress Palpatine
QUOTE (Empress Palpatine+Nov 26 2009, 01:27 AM)
There are a lot of religions that have hints of future science in their mythologies. Hinduism, Norse, Kabbalism...to name a few.
No, this is not true
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
Do you have an autographed copy?
Otherwise how do you know it's authentic?
Which version of Arabic is it written in? Aren't there dozens of dialects by now?
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
You sorry, pig-eating, son of a dog! Did you *** up Major Hasan and send him to Fort Hood?
What the hell are you doing here? Why don't you stay in your mosque and tell the people there that choosing and killing innocents is a sin in front of Allah. Fix them before you try to find other fools.
"Only Islam and Christianity..." You and your incestuous war with Christians has caused more grief in the world then can be imagined.
Pusti!
My name is Orestis. PM me if you would like to settle this some other way.
No, this is not true
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
QUOTE (Empress Palpatine+Nov 26 2009, 01:27 AM)
So, who is right?
Of course, Islam
See this link
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/converts/
Even if you have any other questions
Welcome
http://www.shareislam.com/
Thanks Empress Palpatine
Of course, Islam
See this link
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/converts/
Even if you have any other questions
Welcome
http://www.shareislam.com/
Thanks Empress Palpatine
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 26 2009, 02:02 AM)
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
Do you have an autographed copy?
Otherwise how do you know it's authentic?
Which version of Arabic is it written in? Aren't there dozens of dialects by now?
Islam is not the oldest of the religions. It started in the 7th century I think. Hinduism and Buddhism predate it. The Hindus got it right on a few things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGBV7Gi7ldo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGBV7Gi7ldo
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 25 2009, 10:02 PM)
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
Of course, Islam
The book of Mormon claims to be based on the Torah and New Testament as well, are they equally correct? At least the Mormons didn't slaughter millions of Hindus in a centuries-long conquest.
Of course, Islam
The book of Mormon claims to be based on the Torah and New Testament as well, are they equally correct? At least the Mormons didn't slaughter millions of Hindus in a centuries-long conquest.
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 25 2009, 10:02 PM)
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
You sorry, pig-eating, son of a dog! Did you *** up Major Hasan and send him to Fort Hood?
What the hell are you doing here? Why don't you stay in your mosque and tell the people there that choosing and killing innocents is a sin in front of Allah. Fix them before you try to find other fools.
"Only Islam and Christianity..." You and your incestuous war with Christians has caused more grief in the world then can be imagined.
Pusti!
My name is Orestis. PM me if you would like to settle this some other way.
edit
Controversial.
QUOTE (Matador+Nov 26 2009, 03:48 AM)
Controversial.
Why? Because he is Muslim?
Two idiot brothers, one named Muslim the other named Christian, argue about which one is more loved by an absent father that was made up by the kid next door.
That's not controversial, that's stupid.
Why? Because he is Muslim?
Two idiot brothers, one named Muslim the other named Christian, argue about which one is more loved by an absent father that was made up by the kid next door.
That's not controversial, that's stupid.
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 26 2009, 02:02 AM)
HI Empress Palpatine
No, this is not true
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
The Koran says the Gospels are true. It also says that Jesus is a prophet like Moses.
But the Gospels says that Jesus is the Son of God. How do you explain that contradiction?
No, this is not true
Only Islam, and Christianity and Judaism because all of the Quran and the Bible and the Torah from Allah
The Koran says the Gospels are true. It also says that Jesus is a prophet like Moses.
But the Gospels says that Jesus is the Son of God. How do you explain that contradiction?
QUOTE (orestis+)
You sorry, pig-eating, son of a dog! Did you *** up Major Hasan and send him to Fort Hood?
orestis: Out of curiosity, what "god", "ideology", "allegiance" prompted YOU to go to war (Vietnam, from what I've been told) to take the lives of others? Aren't you the same guy who, in a previous tirade, went on about how you had taken another man's life and had "hot, sticky red stuff" (blood) on your hands? Yep, same guy. Who *** YOU up...to use your terminology? Hassan opened fire on what he most likely considered to be enemy soldiers. Haven't YOU done the same? It would be no stretch of my imagination to visualize you walking into a crowded place, say a church, and doing the same. Go figure...I already have. By the way, what's for dinner today? Swine? That's what I thought. Here's a suggestion:
Go the traditional route and have some turkey today. I just did. Somebody please explain that to him for me, okay? Thanks.
orestis: Out of curiosity, what "god", "ideology", "allegiance" prompted YOU to go to war (Vietnam, from what I've been told) to take the lives of others? Aren't you the same guy who, in a previous tirade, went on about how you had taken another man's life and had "hot, sticky red stuff" (blood) on your hands? Yep, same guy. Who *** YOU up...to use your terminology? Hassan opened fire on what he most likely considered to be enemy soldiers. Haven't YOU done the same? It would be no stretch of my imagination to visualize you walking into a crowded place, say a church, and doing the same. Go figure...I already have. By the way, what's for dinner today? Swine? That's what I thought. Here's a suggestion:
Go the traditional route and have some turkey today. I just did. Somebody please explain that to him for me, okay? Thanks.
QUOTE (orestis+)
Pusti!
Was that a "gay slur"? Now, now...the Sanhedrin around here won't like that, will they? Oh, wait a minute...I almost forgot...
Most of the Sanhedrin are hypocrites.
My bad.
Happy Thanksgiving (I'm thankful that you're nowhere near my family members).
P.S. This was NOT a defense of Islam by any stretch. My views of such should already be known to all.
Was that a "gay slur"? Now, now...the Sanhedrin around here won't like that, will they? Oh, wait a minute...I almost forgot...
Most of the Sanhedrin are hypocrites.
My bad.
Happy Thanksgiving (I'm thankful that you're nowhere near my family members).
P.S. This was NOT a defense of Islam by any stretch. My views of such should already be known to all.
Jerk. I imagine your family feels that way about you, too.
Ahmd
Ahem...
You might want to review your sources. The good doctor might be fine in medicine but he doesn't know much history.
The Koran does take it's information from prior and very non divine sources.
Also look here for a text by Galen...
Galen's writings
A bit about Galen...
Also look here for a text by Galen...
Galen's writings
A bit about Galen...
elius Galenus or Claudius Galenus (September AD 129 – 199/217; Greek: Γαληνός, Galēnos), better known as Galen of Pergamum (modern-day Bergama, Turkey), was a prominent Roman physician and philosopher of Greek origin,[1] and probably the most accomplished medical researcher of the Roman period. His theories dominated and influenced Western medical science for well over a millennium. His account of medical anatomy was based on monkeys as human dissection was not permitted in his time, but it was unsurpassed until the printed description and illustrations of human dissections by Andreas Vesalius in 1543.[2] Galen's account of the activities of the heart, arteries and veins endured until William Harvey established that the blood circulates with the heart acting as a pump in 1628.[3] In the 19th century, student physicians would still read Galen to learn some concepts. Galen developed many nerve ligation experiments that supported the theory, which is still believed today, that the brain controls all the motions of the muscles by means of the cranial and peripheral nervous systems.
Annnd...it seems Muslim scholars didn't exactly look to the Quran for their medical advice.
Research is fun isn't it?
Your, and Dr Moore's, theory is of the same type as the UFO enthusiasts. It's a mistake to assume that the ancient people were less intelligent that we are and that they needed God or UFO's or alien lizards in order to do great things.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Well... maybe some of the stuff coming from Newguy could be further from the truth... but not much else.
Hehe.. that should get me flamed by the cultists around here.
P.S. This was NOT a defense of Islam by any stretch. My views of such should already be known to all.
And the other idiot brother barks.
Is this your first time out of retirement? Then according to your reasoning, I own you.
Try to understand this. Killing is bad, each time you do it a piece of you dies along with who you kill. The only consolation is that when it's soldier to solder you can say that we both knew what we were there for.
But a secretary at her desk, a child holding a mothers hand in a market, those people didn't want to play the game.Whether its a bomb from from two miles in the sky or a zealot with explosives wrapped around him, it should not happen.
Talking to you is a sad experience. Go back to retirement.
Well... that is kind of the definition of war.
A soldier's job is to kill the enemies of the state he serves. However it's always been a bone of contention as to whom that is exactly. It is generally agreed in military circles that civilians should not be targets but that is sometimes ignored. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for not so good reasons.
War is still an unfortunate necessity. That is why we still have soldiers. If you don't like them... try moving somewhere that still has warlords. Then you might like to have some soldiers on your side. The price of peace, sadly... is often war.
This bit...
Well... that is kind of the definition of war.
A soldier's job is to kill the enemies of the state he serves. However it's always been a bone of contention as to whom that is exactly. It is generally agreed in military circles that civilians should not be targets but that is sometimes ignored. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for not so good reasons.
War is still an unfortunate necessity. That is why we still have soldiers. If you don't like them... try moving somewhere that still has warlords. Then you might like to have some soldiers on your side. The price of peace, sadly... is often war.
This bit...
You're still a killer yourself,
Is both trite and a sad platitude. We are all killers. It just depends on your circumstance. The best you can do is to make sure you can live with your choice.
Ahem...
You might want to review your sources. The good doctor might be fine in medicine but he doesn't know much history.
The Koran does take it's information from prior and very non divine sources.
QUOTE
early Muslim doctors, like Ibn-Qayyim, were first to blow the whistle when they saw the Koranic material, mirrored a Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. In 1983 Basim Musallam, Director of the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Cambridge concluded, "The stages of development which the Qur'an and Hadith established for believers agreed perfectly with Galen's scientific account....There is no doubt that medieval thought appreciated this agreement between the Qur'an and Galen, for Arabic science employed the same Qur'anic terms to describe the Galenic stages" (B. Musallam (Cambridge, 1983) Sex and Society in Islam. p. 54)
Also look here for a text by Galen...
Galen's writings
A bit about Galen...
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| early Muslim doctors, like Ibn-Qayyim, were first to blow the whistle when they saw the Koranic material, mirrored a Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. In 1983 Basim Musallam, Director of the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Cambridge concluded, "The stages of development which the Qur'an and Hadith established for believers agreed perfectly with Galen's scientific account....There is no doubt that medieval thought appreciated this agreement between the Qur'an and Galen, for Arabic science employed the same Qur'anic terms to describe the Galenic stages" (B. Musallam (Cambridge, 1983) Sex and Society in Islam. p. 54) |
Also look here for a text by Galen...
Galen's writings
A bit about Galen...
elius Galenus or Claudius Galenus (September AD 129 – 199/217; Greek: Γαληνός, Galēnos), better known as Galen of Pergamum (modern-day Bergama, Turkey), was a prominent Roman physician and philosopher of Greek origin,[1] and probably the most accomplished medical researcher of the Roman period. His theories dominated and influenced Western medical science for well over a millennium. His account of medical anatomy was based on monkeys as human dissection was not permitted in his time, but it was unsurpassed until the printed description and illustrations of human dissections by Andreas Vesalius in 1543.[2] Galen's account of the activities of the heart, arteries and veins endured until William Harvey established that the blood circulates with the heart acting as a pump in 1628.[3] In the 19th century, student physicians would still read Galen to learn some concepts. Galen developed many nerve ligation experiments that supported the theory, which is still believed today, that the brain controls all the motions of the muscles by means of the cranial and peripheral nervous systems.
Annnd...it seems Muslim scholars didn't exactly look to the Quran for their medical advice.
QUOTE
The first major translator of Galen into Arabic was the Syrian Christian Hunayn ibn Ishaq. Hunayn translated (c.830-870) 129 works of "Jalinos" [34] into Arabic. Galen's insistence on a rational systematic approach to medicine set the template for Islamic medicine, which rapidly spread throughout the Arab Empire. Arabic sources, such as Rhazes (Muhammad ibn Zakarīya Rāzi 865-925 AD), continue to be the source of discovery of new or relatively inaccessible Galenic writings. [26] As the title, Doubts on Galen by Rhazes implies,[35] as well as the writings of physicians such as Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar) and Ibn al-Nafis,[36] the works of Galen were not taken on unquestioningly, but as a challengeable basis for further enquiry.
A strong emphasis on experimentation and empiricism led to new results and new observations, which were contrasted and combined with those of Galen by writers such as Rhazes, Ali ibn Abbas al-Majusi (Haly Abbas), Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (Abulasis), Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Ibn Zuhr and Ibn al-Nafis. For example, the experiments carried out by Rāzi[35] and Ibn Zuhr contradicted the Galenic theory of humorism, while Ibn al-Nafis' discovery of the pulmonary circulation contradicted the Galenic theory on the heart.[37]
A strong emphasis on experimentation and empiricism led to new results and new observations, which were contrasted and combined with those of Galen by writers such as Rhazes, Ali ibn Abbas al-Majusi (Haly Abbas), Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (Abulasis), Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Ibn Zuhr and Ibn al-Nafis. For example, the experiments carried out by Rāzi[35] and Ibn Zuhr contradicted the Galenic theory of humorism, while Ibn al-Nafis' discovery of the pulmonary circulation contradicted the Galenic theory on the heart.[37]
Research is fun isn't it?
Your, and Dr Moore's, theory is of the same type as the UFO enthusiasts. It's a mistake to assume that the ancient people were less intelligent that we are and that they needed God or UFO's or alien lizards in order to do great things.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Well... maybe some of the stuff coming from Newguy could be further from the truth... but not much else.
Hehe.. that should get me flamed by the cultists around here.
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 26 2009, 08:28 AM)
P.S. This was NOT a defense of Islam by any stretch. My views of such should already be known to all.
And the other idiot brother barks.
Is this your first time out of retirement? Then according to your reasoning, I own you.Try to understand this. Killing is bad, each time you do it a piece of you dies along with who you kill. The only consolation is that when it's soldier to solder you can say that we both knew what we were there for.
But a secretary at her desk, a child holding a mothers hand in a market, those people didn't want to play the game.Whether its a bomb from from two miles in the sky or a zealot with explosives wrapped around him, it should not happen.
Talking to you is a sad experience. Go back to retirement.
QUOTE (orestis+)
The only consolation is that when it's soldier to solder you can say that we both knew what we were there for.
orestis: Yeah, you both knew what you were there for...
To kill each other.
Some "consolation".
You're still a killer yourself, so spare us (well, Sapo's congregation will love it) the sermon, okay?
By the way, who said that I "retired"? "Tired", perhaps...of dealing with the likes of you. I'm patient, though.
Well, it's been fun, but I've got to drive 4 1/2 hours on business.
orestis: Yeah, you both knew what you were there for...
To kill each other.
Some "consolation".
You're still a killer yourself, so spare us (well, Sapo's congregation will love it) the sermon, okay?
By the way, who said that I "retired"? "Tired", perhaps...of dealing with the likes of you. I'm patient, though.
Well, it's been fun, but I've got to drive 4 1/2 hours on business.
QUOTE
To kill each other.
Well... that is kind of the definition of war.
A soldier's job is to kill the enemies of the state he serves. However it's always been a bone of contention as to whom that is exactly. It is generally agreed in military circles that civilians should not be targets but that is sometimes ignored. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for not so good reasons.
War is still an unfortunate necessity. That is why we still have soldiers. If you don't like them... try moving somewhere that still has warlords. Then you might like to have some soldiers on your side. The price of peace, sadly... is often war.
This bit...
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| To kill each other. |
Well... that is kind of the definition of war.
A soldier's job is to kill the enemies of the state he serves. However it's always been a bone of contention as to whom that is exactly. It is generally agreed in military circles that civilians should not be targets but that is sometimes ignored. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for not so good reasons.
War is still an unfortunate necessity. That is why we still have soldiers. If you don't like them... try moving somewhere that still has warlords. Then you might like to have some soldiers on your side. The price of peace, sadly... is often war.
This bit...
You're still a killer yourself,
Is both trite and a sad platitude. We are all killers. It just depends on your circumstance. The best you can do is to make sure you can live with your choice.
I have to take the above post back. Too late to edit, too vicious, it's not me, and it's a family holiday. apologies.
[Moderator: Accepted. Above post deleted as per request.]
[Moderator: Accepted. Above post deleted as per request.]
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 26 2009, 02:25 AM)
Do you have an autographed copy?
Which version of Arabic is it written in? Aren't there dozens of dialects by now?
Quran Means "Recitation"
The word "Quran" means "that which is recited; or that which is dictated in memory form." As such, it is not a book, nor is it something that reaches us only in written form. The documentation in writting about the Quran has been preserved in museums thoughout the world, including the Topekopi Palace in Istanbul, Turkey, the museum in Tashkent, Uzbekistan and also in England. Keep in mind also, the Quran is only considered "Quran" while it is in the recitation form, not in the written or the book form. The word for what is written and held in the hand to be read by the eye is called "mus-haf" (meaning script or that which is written down).
Only One Version - Arabic
There are no different versions of the Quran in the Arabic language, only different translations and of course, none of these would be considered to hold the value and authenticity of the original Arabic Recitation. The Quran is divided up into 30 equal parts, called "Juz'" (parts) in the Arabic language. These are learned by Muslims from their very early beginnings as children.
Memorized by Millions - Entirely
The important thing to keep in mind about the Quran is the memorization and transmission of the actual "Rectiation" just as it came to Muhammad, peace be upon him, from the Angel Gabriel and was learned and memorized by his companions and they in turn, passed it down to their followers and continued in this way until we see today, over 10,000,000 (ten million) Muslims who have committed the entire Quran to memory. This is not a small feat. After all, how many other works of literary value have been memorized and passed down through so many generations, in the original language, without a single change in even one sentence?
Each Muslim Has "Quran" Memorized
All Muslims have memorzied a portion of the Quran in the Arabic language, as this is an important part of their daily prayers. Many Muslims have memorized large portions of the Quran from one tenth to one half to all of the entire Quran, and all in the original Arabic language. It should be noted, there are over one and a half billion (1,500,000,000) Muslims worldwide and only about 10% are Arab, all the rest are learing the Quran in Arabic as a second language.
God Speaks in First Person to Mankind in Quran
The Quran contains clear statements from Almighty God (Allah) and it is Him speaking to all of us in the first person. He tells of us our own creation, the creation of all that is the universe and what has happened to those before us and what is to become of us if we do not take heed of the warnings clearly spelled out in His Revelation. He speaks also to Muhammad, peace be upon him, to show that Muhammad, peace be upon him, is not making this up himself and even chastises Muhammad, peace be upon him, for making human assumptions rather than waiting for revelation in matters (ie.; surah At-Tahreem and surah Abasa).
Quran Mentions Itself
The Quran refers to itself as "The Quran" (The Recitation) and mentions that it is to all mankind and jinn (another creation of Allah, similar to humans in that they could make choices as to whether or not they would obey God's Commandments, and they existed before humans).
Quran Describes God's Nature Exactly
The Quran is clear on who God is and who He is not. There is no room left for doubt after reading the Quran in the Arabic languge: God is One. He is the only Creator, Sustainer and Owner of the Universe. He has no partners. He has no relatives; wives, children or offspring. He is not like His creation and He does not need it for His existance, while all the time the creation is totally dependent on Him. His attributes are clearly spelled out as the epitome of each and every one. He is for instance, the All-Knowing; the All-Hearing; the All-Seeing; the All-Forgiving; the All- Loving; the All-Merciful; the Only One God. There is never a contradiction to this found anywhere in the Quran.
Quran Challanges Readers
The Quran makes the clear challange, that if you are in doubt about it - then bring a book like it. Also, to bring ten chapters like it and then finally, to bring one single chapter like it. 1,400 years - and no one has been able to duplicate it's beauty, recitation, miracles and ease of memorization. Another challange for the unbelievers to consider; "If this (Quran) were from other than Allah, you would find within it many contradictions." And yet, another challange offered by Allah in the Quran is for the unbelievers to look around for evidences. Allah says He will show them His signs within themselves and on the farthest horizons.
Scientific Miracles in Quran
The scientific miracles of the Quran could not have been understood at that time, yet today we take for granted the many things included in the revelation of the Quran. Some include mentioning: The formation of embryo in the womb of the mother (surah 98); deep seas partitions; waters that do not mix; clouds and how they make rain and how lightning is caused by ice crystals; formation of the earth's mountains deep underground; orbits of planets and stars and moons - and even the mention of space travel (surah 55:33).
Quran Means "Recitation"
The word "Quran" means "that which is recited;
Only One Version - Arabic
There are no different versions of the Quran in the Arabic language,
Do you have a live memorex recording then?
i.e something more substantive than some variation of I heard from Joe who heard from Jack who heard from.... X1,000
And there different versions of Arabic.
Actually, it's totally irrelevant to my comments. Although orestis attempted to dodge my direct questions, reality still dictates that Hasan shot/killed SOLDIERS and NOT civilians. Admitting that REALITY would be diametrically opposed to your own modus operandi, not to mention orestis'. Anyhow, it's more of the same, here. You people avoid the truth, overlook the outbursts of orestis, including his "gay slur"...you get the picture, don't you? Sad to say, you don't. Well, you can have back your forum. My actual desire in logging on yesterday was to PM some forum members with wishes of a "Happy Thanksgiving"...which I did. Unfortunately, I also posted on this thread which only reminded me of what an incorrigible bunch of people you actually are. Now, I'll officially shake the dust off of my feet as a testimony against you. I'm innocent of your blood.
orestis: Yeah, you both knew what you were there for...
To kill each other.
Some "consolation".
You are right. There is no getting around it.
But you bring out some of the worst things in people. And there is no getting around that for you.
I hope you stick to your word about shaking off the dust of this place. I dont think posting here is doing you any good.
If you go, go in peace. For different reasons I think we are both looking for that.
Actually, it's totally irrelevant to my comments. Although orestis attempted to dodge my direct questions, reality still dictates that Hasan shot/killed SOLDIERS and NOT civilians. Admitting that REALITY would be diametrically opposed to your own modus operandi, not to mention orestis'. Anyhow, it's more of the same, here. You people avoid the truth, overlook the outbursts of orestis, including his "gay slur"...you get the picture, don't you? Sad to say, you don't. Well, you can have back your forum. My actual desire in logging on yesterday was to PM some forum members with wishes of a "Happy Thanksgiving"...which I did. Unfortunately, I also posted on this thread which only reminded me of what an incorrigible bunch of people you actually are. Now, I'll officially shake the dust off of my feet as a testimony against you. I'm innocent of your blood.
You are a damned fool. You asked no honest questions, you simply shouted something hateful that you think will get a rise out of your victim.
The crap you accuse others of is what you see in your dirty mirror, poor SOB. Don't let the doorknob hit you...
Which version of Arabic is it written in? Aren't there dozens of dialects by now?
Quran Means "Recitation"
The word "Quran" means "that which is recited; or that which is dictated in memory form." As such, it is not a book, nor is it something that reaches us only in written form. The documentation in writting about the Quran has been preserved in museums thoughout the world, including the Topekopi Palace in Istanbul, Turkey, the museum in Tashkent, Uzbekistan and also in England. Keep in mind also, the Quran is only considered "Quran" while it is in the recitation form, not in the written or the book form. The word for what is written and held in the hand to be read by the eye is called "mus-haf" (meaning script or that which is written down).
Only One Version - Arabic
There are no different versions of the Quran in the Arabic language, only different translations and of course, none of these would be considered to hold the value and authenticity of the original Arabic Recitation. The Quran is divided up into 30 equal parts, called "Juz'" (parts) in the Arabic language. These are learned by Muslims from their very early beginnings as children.
Memorized by Millions - Entirely
The important thing to keep in mind about the Quran is the memorization and transmission of the actual "Rectiation" just as it came to Muhammad, peace be upon him, from the Angel Gabriel and was learned and memorized by his companions and they in turn, passed it down to their followers and continued in this way until we see today, over 10,000,000 (ten million) Muslims who have committed the entire Quran to memory. This is not a small feat. After all, how many other works of literary value have been memorized and passed down through so many generations, in the original language, without a single change in even one sentence?
Each Muslim Has "Quran" Memorized
All Muslims have memorzied a portion of the Quran in the Arabic language, as this is an important part of their daily prayers. Many Muslims have memorized large portions of the Quran from one tenth to one half to all of the entire Quran, and all in the original Arabic language. It should be noted, there are over one and a half billion (1,500,000,000) Muslims worldwide and only about 10% are Arab, all the rest are learing the Quran in Arabic as a second language.
God Speaks in First Person to Mankind in Quran
The Quran contains clear statements from Almighty God (Allah) and it is Him speaking to all of us in the first person. He tells of us our own creation, the creation of all that is the universe and what has happened to those before us and what is to become of us if we do not take heed of the warnings clearly spelled out in His Revelation. He speaks also to Muhammad, peace be upon him, to show that Muhammad, peace be upon him, is not making this up himself and even chastises Muhammad, peace be upon him, for making human assumptions rather than waiting for revelation in matters (ie.; surah At-Tahreem and surah Abasa).
Quran Mentions Itself
The Quran refers to itself as "The Quran" (The Recitation) and mentions that it is to all mankind and jinn (another creation of Allah, similar to humans in that they could make choices as to whether or not they would obey God's Commandments, and they existed before humans).
Quran Describes God's Nature Exactly
The Quran is clear on who God is and who He is not. There is no room left for doubt after reading the Quran in the Arabic languge: God is One. He is the only Creator, Sustainer and Owner of the Universe. He has no partners. He has no relatives; wives, children or offspring. He is not like His creation and He does not need it for His existance, while all the time the creation is totally dependent on Him. His attributes are clearly spelled out as the epitome of each and every one. He is for instance, the All-Knowing; the All-Hearing; the All-Seeing; the All-Forgiving; the All- Loving; the All-Merciful; the Only One God. There is never a contradiction to this found anywhere in the Quran.
Quran Challanges Readers
The Quran makes the clear challange, that if you are in doubt about it - then bring a book like it. Also, to bring ten chapters like it and then finally, to bring one single chapter like it. 1,400 years - and no one has been able to duplicate it's beauty, recitation, miracles and ease of memorization. Another challange for the unbelievers to consider; "If this (Quran) were from other than Allah, you would find within it many contradictions." And yet, another challange offered by Allah in the Quran is for the unbelievers to look around for evidences. Allah says He will show them His signs within themselves and on the farthest horizons.
Scientific Miracles in Quran
The scientific miracles of the Quran could not have been understood at that time, yet today we take for granted the many things included in the revelation of the Quran. Some include mentioning: The formation of embryo in the womb of the mother (surah 98); deep seas partitions; waters that do not mix; clouds and how they make rain and how lightning is caused by ice crystals; formation of the earth's mountains deep underground; orbits of planets and stars and moons - and even the mention of space travel (surah 55:33).
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 26 2009, 02:25 AM)
Otherwise how do you know it's authentic?
This Quraan is challenge from Allaah to mankind and the jinn to produce anything like it, but they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce only ten soorahs like it, and they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce something like the shortest soorah in the Quraan, and they could not do it, even though those who were being challenged were the most eloquent and well-spoken of mankind, and the Quraan was revealed in their language. Yet despite that they stated that they were completely incapable of doing that. This challenge has remained down throughout history, but not one person has been able to produce anything like it. If this were the word of a human being, some people would have been able to produce something like it or close to it. There is a great deal of evidence for this challenge in the Quraan, for example, the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):
Say: If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Quraan, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another ;
[al-Israa 17:88]
Allaah says, challenging them to produce just ten soorahs:
Or they say, He (Prophet Muhammad) forged it (the Quraan). Say: Bring you then ten forged Soorah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allaah (to your help), if you speak the truth!
[Hood 11:13 interpretation of the meaning]
Allaah says, challenging them to produce just one soorah:
And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quraan) to Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a Soorah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allaah, if you are truthful
[al-Baqarah 2:23 interpretation of the meaning]
2- No matter how much knowledge and understanding mankind attains, they will still inevitably make mistakes, forget things or fall short. If the Quraan were not the word of Allaah, there would be some contradictions and shortcomings in it, as Allaah says:
Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction
[al-Nisa 4:82 interpretation of the meaning]
But it is free from any shortcoming, error or contradiction; indeed, all of it is wisdom, mercy and justice. Whoever thinks that there is any contradiction in it, that is because of his diseased thinking and mistaken understanding; if he refers to the scholars they will explain to him what is correct and clear up the confusion for him, as Allaah says:
Verily, those who disbelieved in the Reminder (i.e. the Quraan) when it came to them (shall receive the punishment). And verily, it is an honourable well fortified respected Book (because it is Allaahs Speech, and He has protected it from corruption).
Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it, (it is) sent down by the All Wise, Worthy of all praise (Allaah)”
[Fussilat 41:41-42 interpretation of the meaning]
3- Allaah has guaranteed to preserve this Quraan, and He says:
Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quraan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9 interpretation of the meaning]
Every letter of it was transmitted by thousands from thousands down throughout history, and not one letter of it was altered. If any person tried to alter anything in it, or add something or take something away, then he would be exposed straight away, because Allaah is the One Who has guaranteed to preserve the Quraan, unlike the case with other divinely-revealed Books which Allaah revealed to the people of a particular Prophet only, and not to all of mankind, so He did not guarantee to preserve them, rather He delegated their preservation to the followers of the Prophets. But they did not preserve them, rather they introduced alterations and changes which distorted most of the meanings. The Quraan, on the other hand, was revealed by Allaah to all of mankind until the end of time, because the Message of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the final message, so the Quraan is preserved in mens hearts and in written form, as is proven by the events of history. How many people have tried to change the aayahs of the Quraan and deceive the Muslims, but they were quickly exposed and their falsehood was discovered, even by Muslim children.
Another of the definitive signs that this Quraan was not produced by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) but that it came revealed by Allaah to him is the following:
4- The great miracles which the Quraan contains of legislation, rulings, stories and beliefs, which could not be produced by any created being no matter how great his intelligence and level of understanding. No matter how hard people try to promulgate laws to regulate their lives, they can never succeed so long as they are far away from the teachings of the Quraan; the further away they are, the greater their rate of failure. This is something that has been proven by the kuffaar themselves.
5- Reports of matters of the unseen, both past and future, which no human being could speak of independently, no matter how great his knowledge, especially at that time which is regarded as primitive in terms of technology and modern tools. There are many things which had not been discovered yet, and which have only been discovered after lengthy and difficult exploration with the most modern equipment, but Allaah told us about them in the Quraan, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) mentioned them, fifteen centuries ago, such as the stages of embryonic development, the nature of the oceans, etc. These things have made some kaafirs state that this could only have come from God, as in the case of the development of the embryo:
Only 60 years ago, researchers confirmed that man does not come into existence all at once, but rather he passes through stages of development one after another. Only 60 years ago, science discovered this one Quraanic fact.
Shaykh al-Zandaani said, we met an American professor, one of the greatest American scientists, whose name was Professor Marshall Johnson, and we told him that it says in the Qur’aan that man is created in stages. When he heard this, he was sitting down, but he stood up and said, Stages? We said, That was in the seventh century CE! This Book came and said, man was created in stages. He said, That is impossible, impossible We told him, Why do you say that? This Book says (interpretation of the meaning):
He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness
[al-Zumar 39:6]
What is the matter with you, that [you fear not Allaah (His punishment), and] you hope not for reward (from Allaah or you believe not in His Oneness).
While He has created you in (different) stages
[Nooh 71:14]
Then he sat back down on his chair and after a few moments he said, There are only three possibilities. The first is that Muhammad had a huge microscope through which he managed to study these things and he knew things that the people did not know, and he said these things. The second is that this happened by accident, it was a coincidence. The third is that he was a Messenger from God. We said, With regard to the first idea, that he had a microscope and other equipment, you know that a microscope needs lenses, and lenses need glass and technical expertise and other equipment. Some of this information can only be discovered with an electron microscope which needs electricity, and electricity needs knowledge which should have been acquired by an earlier generation. It is not possible for this knowledge to have been acquired all at once in a single generation; the previous generation would have had to strive hard in developing science and transmitting it to the next generation, and so on. But for this to be the work of one man, with no one coming before him or after him, either in his own land or the neighbouring lands for the Romans, Persians and Arabs were ignorant and had no such equipment for one man to have all these instruments and tools which he did not pass on to anyone else this is not possible. He said, Thats right, it would be very difficult. We said, And for it to have been an accident or coincidence, what would you think if we said that the Quraan did not mention this fact only in one verse but in several verses, and that it did not refer to it in general terms but that it gave details of every stage, saying that in the first stage such and such happens, in the second stage such and such happens, in the third stage and so on. Could that be a coincidence? When we explained to him all the details of those stages, he said, It is wrong to say that this is an accident! This is well-founded knowledge. We said, Then how do you explain it? He said, There is no explanation except that this is revelation from above! nbsp;
With regard to the many statements in the Quraan concerning the sea, some of these facts were not discovered until very recently, and many of them are still unknown. For example, these facts were discovered after hundreds of marine stations had been set up, and after images had been taken by satellites. The one who said this was Professor Schroeder, one of the greatest oceanographers in West Germany. He used to say that if science advanced, religion would have to retreat. But when he heard the translation of the verses of the Quraan, he was stunned and said, These could not be the words of a human being. And Professor Dorjaro, a professor of oceanography, told us of the latest developments on science, when he heard the aayah:
Or (the state of a disbeliever) is like the darkness in a vast deep sea, overwhelmed with waves topped by waves, topped by dark clouds, (layers of) darkness upon darkness: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! And he for whom Allaah has not appointed light, for him there is no light
[al-Noor 24:40 interpretation of the meaning]
He said, In the past, man could not dive to a depth of more than twenty meters because he had no special equipment. But now we can dive to the bottom of the ocean, using modern equipment, and we find intense darkness at a depth of two hundred meters. The aayah says a vast deep sea . The discoveries in the depths of the sea give us an understanding of the aayah, (layers of) darkness upon darkness. It is known that there are seven colours in the spectrum, including red, yellow, blue, green, orange, etc. When we dive down into the depths of the ocean, these colours disappear one after another, and the disappearance of each colour results in more darkness. Red disappears first, then orange, then yellow the last colour to disappear is blue, at a depth of two hundred meters. Each colour that disappears adds to the darkness until it reaches total darkness. With regard to the phrase waves topped by waves, it has been proven scientifically that there is a separation between the upper and lower parts of the ocean, and that this separation is filled with waves, as if there are waves on the edge of the dark, lower portion of the sea, which we do not see, and there are waves on the shores of the sea, which we do see. So it is as if there are waves above waves. This is a confirmed scientific fact, hence Professor Dorjaro said concerning these Quraanic verses, that this cannot be human knowledge.
(See al-Adillah al-Maadiyyah ala Wujood-Allaah by Muhammad Mitwalli al-Sharaawi)
And there are very many such examples
6- In the Quraan there are some aayahs which rebuke the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and mention some things to which Allaah drew his attention. Some of them may have been embarrassing for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). But if this Quraan had come from the Messenger of Allaah, there would have been no need for this; if he were to conceal any part of the Quraan, he would have concealed some of these verses which contained rebukes or drew his attention to certain matters which he should not have done, such as the verse in which Allaah says to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him):
But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allaah has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allaah will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allaah had a better right that you should fear Him
[al-Ahzaab 33:37 interpretation of the meaning]
After this, can there be any doubt left in the mind of any intelligent person that this Quraan is the word of Allaah, and that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) conveyed that which was revealed to him in full?
Moreover, we tell this person, try it for yourself, read a sound translation of the Quraan and use your mind to ponder these rules and regulations. There is no doubt that any intelligent person who has the power of discernment will see a great difference between these words (of Allaah) and the words of any person on the face of the earth.
Read the Opinions of Famous Non-Muslims
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Atheist Scientists Enter Islam?
Atheist Scientists Accept Islam?
What proofs did scientists find in Quran to change their minds?
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Video Clips of Scientists Comments on Science in the Quran on sceince
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This Quraan is challenge from Allaah to mankind and the jinn to produce anything like it, but they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce only ten soorahs like it, and they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce something like the shortest soorah in the Quraan, and they could not do it, even though those who were being challenged were the most eloquent and well-spoken of mankind, and the Quraan was revealed in their language. Yet despite that they stated that they were completely incapable of doing that. This challenge has remained down throughout history, but not one person has been able to produce anything like it. If this were the word of a human being, some people would have been able to produce something like it or close to it. There is a great deal of evidence for this challenge in the Quraan, for example, the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):
Say: If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Quraan, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another ;
[al-Israa 17:88]
Allaah says, challenging them to produce just ten soorahs:
Or they say, He (Prophet Muhammad) forged it (the Quraan). Say: Bring you then ten forged Soorah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allaah (to your help), if you speak the truth!
[Hood 11:13 interpretation of the meaning]
Allaah says, challenging them to produce just one soorah:
And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quraan) to Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a Soorah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allaah, if you are truthful
[al-Baqarah 2:23 interpretation of the meaning]
2- No matter how much knowledge and understanding mankind attains, they will still inevitably make mistakes, forget things or fall short. If the Quraan were not the word of Allaah, there would be some contradictions and shortcomings in it, as Allaah says:
Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction
[al-Nisa 4:82 interpretation of the meaning]
But it is free from any shortcoming, error or contradiction; indeed, all of it is wisdom, mercy and justice. Whoever thinks that there is any contradiction in it, that is because of his diseased thinking and mistaken understanding; if he refers to the scholars they will explain to him what is correct and clear up the confusion for him, as Allaah says:
Verily, those who disbelieved in the Reminder (i.e. the Quraan) when it came to them (shall receive the punishment). And verily, it is an honourable well fortified respected Book (because it is Allaahs Speech, and He has protected it from corruption).
Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it, (it is) sent down by the All Wise, Worthy of all praise (Allaah)”
[Fussilat 41:41-42 interpretation of the meaning]
3- Allaah has guaranteed to preserve this Quraan, and He says:
Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quraan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9 interpretation of the meaning]
Every letter of it was transmitted by thousands from thousands down throughout history, and not one letter of it was altered. If any person tried to alter anything in it, or add something or take something away, then he would be exposed straight away, because Allaah is the One Who has guaranteed to preserve the Quraan, unlike the case with other divinely-revealed Books which Allaah revealed to the people of a particular Prophet only, and not to all of mankind, so He did not guarantee to preserve them, rather He delegated their preservation to the followers of the Prophets. But they did not preserve them, rather they introduced alterations and changes which distorted most of the meanings. The Quraan, on the other hand, was revealed by Allaah to all of mankind until the end of time, because the Message of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is the final message, so the Quraan is preserved in mens hearts and in written form, as is proven by the events of history. How many people have tried to change the aayahs of the Quraan and deceive the Muslims, but they were quickly exposed and their falsehood was discovered, even by Muslim children.
Another of the definitive signs that this Quraan was not produced by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) but that it came revealed by Allaah to him is the following:
4- The great miracles which the Quraan contains of legislation, rulings, stories and beliefs, which could not be produced by any created being no matter how great his intelligence and level of understanding. No matter how hard people try to promulgate laws to regulate their lives, they can never succeed so long as they are far away from the teachings of the Quraan; the further away they are, the greater their rate of failure. This is something that has been proven by the kuffaar themselves.
5- Reports of matters of the unseen, both past and future, which no human being could speak of independently, no matter how great his knowledge, especially at that time which is regarded as primitive in terms of technology and modern tools. There are many things which had not been discovered yet, and which have only been discovered after lengthy and difficult exploration with the most modern equipment, but Allaah told us about them in the Quraan, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) mentioned them, fifteen centuries ago, such as the stages of embryonic development, the nature of the oceans, etc. These things have made some kaafirs state that this could only have come from God, as in the case of the development of the embryo:
Only 60 years ago, researchers confirmed that man does not come into existence all at once, but rather he passes through stages of development one after another. Only 60 years ago, science discovered this one Quraanic fact.
Shaykh al-Zandaani said, we met an American professor, one of the greatest American scientists, whose name was Professor Marshall Johnson, and we told him that it says in the Qur’aan that man is created in stages. When he heard this, he was sitting down, but he stood up and said, Stages? We said, That was in the seventh century CE! This Book came and said, man was created in stages. He said, That is impossible, impossible We told him, Why do you say that? This Book says (interpretation of the meaning):
He creates you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation in three veils of darkness
[al-Zumar 39:6]
What is the matter with you, that [you fear not Allaah (His punishment), and] you hope not for reward (from Allaah or you believe not in His Oneness).
While He has created you in (different) stages
[Nooh 71:14]
Then he sat back down on his chair and after a few moments he said, There are only three possibilities. The first is that Muhammad had a huge microscope through which he managed to study these things and he knew things that the people did not know, and he said these things. The second is that this happened by accident, it was a coincidence. The third is that he was a Messenger from God. We said, With regard to the first idea, that he had a microscope and other equipment, you know that a microscope needs lenses, and lenses need glass and technical expertise and other equipment. Some of this information can only be discovered with an electron microscope which needs electricity, and electricity needs knowledge which should have been acquired by an earlier generation. It is not possible for this knowledge to have been acquired all at once in a single generation; the previous generation would have had to strive hard in developing science and transmitting it to the next generation, and so on. But for this to be the work of one man, with no one coming before him or after him, either in his own land or the neighbouring lands for the Romans, Persians and Arabs were ignorant and had no such equipment for one man to have all these instruments and tools which he did not pass on to anyone else this is not possible. He said, Thats right, it would be very difficult. We said, And for it to have been an accident or coincidence, what would you think if we said that the Quraan did not mention this fact only in one verse but in several verses, and that it did not refer to it in general terms but that it gave details of every stage, saying that in the first stage such and such happens, in the second stage such and such happens, in the third stage and so on. Could that be a coincidence? When we explained to him all the details of those stages, he said, It is wrong to say that this is an accident! This is well-founded knowledge. We said, Then how do you explain it? He said, There is no explanation except that this is revelation from above! nbsp;
With regard to the many statements in the Quraan concerning the sea, some of these facts were not discovered until very recently, and many of them are still unknown. For example, these facts were discovered after hundreds of marine stations had been set up, and after images had been taken by satellites. The one who said this was Professor Schroeder, one of the greatest oceanographers in West Germany. He used to say that if science advanced, religion would have to retreat. But when he heard the translation of the verses of the Quraan, he was stunned and said, These could not be the words of a human being. And Professor Dorjaro, a professor of oceanography, told us of the latest developments on science, when he heard the aayah:
Or (the state of a disbeliever) is like the darkness in a vast deep sea, overwhelmed with waves topped by waves, topped by dark clouds, (layers of) darkness upon darkness: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! And he for whom Allaah has not appointed light, for him there is no light
[al-Noor 24:40 interpretation of the meaning]
He said, In the past, man could not dive to a depth of more than twenty meters because he had no special equipment. But now we can dive to the bottom of the ocean, using modern equipment, and we find intense darkness at a depth of two hundred meters. The aayah says a vast deep sea . The discoveries in the depths of the sea give us an understanding of the aayah, (layers of) darkness upon darkness. It is known that there are seven colours in the spectrum, including red, yellow, blue, green, orange, etc. When we dive down into the depths of the ocean, these colours disappear one after another, and the disappearance of each colour results in more darkness. Red disappears first, then orange, then yellow the last colour to disappear is blue, at a depth of two hundred meters. Each colour that disappears adds to the darkness until it reaches total darkness. With regard to the phrase waves topped by waves, it has been proven scientifically that there is a separation between the upper and lower parts of the ocean, and that this separation is filled with waves, as if there are waves on the edge of the dark, lower portion of the sea, which we do not see, and there are waves on the shores of the sea, which we do see. So it is as if there are waves above waves. This is a confirmed scientific fact, hence Professor Dorjaro said concerning these Quraanic verses, that this cannot be human knowledge.
(See al-Adillah al-Maadiyyah ala Wujood-Allaah by Muhammad Mitwalli al-Sharaawi)
And there are very many such examples
6- In the Quraan there are some aayahs which rebuke the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and mention some things to which Allaah drew his attention. Some of them may have been embarrassing for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). But if this Quraan had come from the Messenger of Allaah, there would have been no need for this; if he were to conceal any part of the Quraan, he would have concealed some of these verses which contained rebukes or drew his attention to certain matters which he should not have done, such as the verse in which Allaah says to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him):
But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allaah has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allaah will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allaah had a better right that you should fear Him
[al-Ahzaab 33:37 interpretation of the meaning]
After this, can there be any doubt left in the mind of any intelligent person that this Quraan is the word of Allaah, and that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) conveyed that which was revealed to him in full?
Moreover, we tell this person, try it for yourself, read a sound translation of the Quraan and use your mind to ponder these rules and regulations. There is no doubt that any intelligent person who has the power of discernment will see a great difference between these words (of Allaah) and the words of any person on the face of the earth.
Read the Opinions of Famous Non-Muslims
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/quran/others.asp
Atheist Scientists Enter Islam?
Atheist Scientists Accept Islam?
What proofs did scientists find in Quran to change their minds?
http://islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1036...-becomes-muslim
Video Clips of Scientists Comments on Science in the Quran on sceince
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QUOTE (Empress Palpatine+Nov 26 2009, 03:19 AM)
Islam is not the oldest of the religions.
Islam is the original
That the origin of the people and Islam is monotheism, and polytheism is an emergency, there is no monotheistic religions, but religion is the one favored by God Almighty which is Islam, the religion of all prophets and messengers and their followers.
Islam is the religion of Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and all the apostles were praying and peace
Allaah tells us in the Qur'aan,
( Lo! religion with Allah (is) the Surrender (to His Will and guidance). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah (will find that) lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. ) (19)
Allaah said
Al-E-Imran
( Seek they other than the religion of Allah, when unto Him submitteth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and unto Him they will be returned. (83) Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (84) And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. ) (85)
Islam is the original
That the origin of the people and Islam is monotheism, and polytheism is an emergency, there is no monotheistic religions, but religion is the one favored by God Almighty which is Islam, the religion of all prophets and messengers and their followers.
Islam is the religion of Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and all the apostles were praying and peace
Allaah tells us in the Qur'aan,
( Lo! religion with Allah (is) the Surrender (to His Will and guidance). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah (will find that) lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. ) (19)
Allaah said
Al-E-Imran
( Seek they other than the religion of Allah, when unto Him submitteth whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and unto Him they will be returned. (83) Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (84) And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. ) (85)
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 26 2009, 11:43 AM)
The Koran says the Gospels are true. It also says that Jesus is a prophet like Moses.
But the Gospels says that Jesus is the Son of God. How do you explain that contradiction?
The Gospels that are extant nowadays were written after the time of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and have been tampered with a great deal
Praise be to Allaah.
There is no contradiction between the two views such that we would need to ask how they can be reconciled. Rather the reason why the questioner is confused is that he is mixing up two things that we must believe in and that are both true, praise be to Allaah.
The first issue is the Gospel that was revealed from the Lord of the Worlds to the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him). Belief that Allaah revealed a Book to His Prophet ‘Eesa and that the name of this book was the Gospel (Injeel), are basic principles of faith that we must believe in. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say,) ‘We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers’ — and they say, ‘We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)’”
[al-Baqarah 2:285]
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Jibreel, when he asked him about faith, as mentioned in the well-known hadeeth: “Faith means to believe in Allaah, His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in His divine will and decree, both good and bad.” (Agreed upon).
Disbelieving in that or doubting it is misguidance and kufr or disbelief in Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Believe in Allaah, and His Messenger (Muhammad), and the Book (the Qur’aan) which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him); and whosoever disbelieves in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away.
137. Verily, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe (again), and (again) disbelieve, and go on increasing in disbelief; Allaah will not forgive them, nor guide them on the (right) way”
[al-Nisa’ 4:136-137]
“Verily, those who disbelieve in Allaah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allaah and His Messengers (by believing in Allaah and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, “We believe in some but reject others,” and wish to adopt a way in between.
151. They are in truth disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment”
[al-Nisa’ 4:150-151]
The second issue is the Gospel or, more precisely, the Gospels that the Christians have today. Although one of the basic principles of our faith is to believe in the Gospel that was revealed to ‘Eesa, we also believe that there is no longer any book that remained as it was revealed by Allaah, neither the Gospel nor anything else, apart from the Qur’aan. Even the Christians themselves do not believe that the books that they have before them were revealed in that form from God, nor do they claim that the Messiah wrote the Gospel or at least that it was written during his lifetime. Imam Ibn Hazm (may Allaah have mercy on him) says in al-Fasl fi’l-Milal (2/2):
We do not need to try hard to prove that the Gospels and all the books of the Christians did not come from God or from the Messiah (peace be upon him), as we needed to do with regard to the Torah and the books attributed to the Prophets that the Jews have, because the Jews claim that the Torah that they have was revealed from God to Moosa, so we needed to establish proof that this claim of theirs is false. With regard to the Christians, they have taken care of the issue themselves, because they do not believe that the Gospels were revealed from God to the Messiah, or that the Messiah brought them, rather all of them from first to last, peasants and kings, Nestorians, Jacobites, Maronites and Orthodox are all agreed that there are four historical accounts written by four known men at different times. The first of them is the account written by Matthew the Levite who was a disciple of the Messiah, nine years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Hebrew in Judaea in Palestine, and it filled approximately twenty-eight pages in a medium-sized script. The next account was written by Mark, a disciple of Simon ben Yuna, who was called Peter, twenty-two years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek in Antioch in the land of the Byzantines. They say that the Simon mentioned is the one who wrote it, then he erased his name from the beginning of it and attributed it to his disciple Mark. It filled twenty-four pages written in a medium-sized script. This Simon was a disciple of the Messiah. The third account written was that of Luke, a physician of Antioch who was also a disciple of Simon Peter. He wrote it in Greek after Mark had written his account, and is similar in length to the Gospel of Matthew. The fourth account was written by John the son of Zebedee, another disciple of the Messiah, sixty-odd years after the Messiah has been taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek, and it filled twenty-four pages in a medium-sized script. End quote.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Jawaab al-Saheeh (3:21):
With regard to the Gospels that the Christians have, there are four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are agreed that Luke and Mark did not see the Messiah, rather he was seen by Matthew and John. These four accounts which they call the Gospel, and they call each one of them a Gospel, were written by these men after the Messiah had been taken up into heaven. They did not say that they are the word of God or that the Messiah conveyed them from God, rather they narrated some of the words of the Messiah and some of his deeds and miracles. End quote.
Moreover, these books which were written after the time of the Messiah did not remain in their original form. The original versions were lost long ago. Ibn Hazm said:
With regard to the Christians, there is no dispute among them or anyone else that only one hundred and twenty men believed in the Messiah during his lifetime… and all of those who believed in him concealed themselves and were afraid during his lifetime and afterwards; they called people to his religion in secret and none of them disclosed himself or practised his religion openly, because any of them who was caught was executed.
They continued in this manner, not showing themselves at all, and they had no place where they were safe for three hundred years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven.
During this time, the Gospel that had been revealed from Allaah disappeared, apart from a few verses which Allaah preserved as proof against them and as a rebuke to them, as we have mentioned. Then when the Emperor Constantine became a Christian, then the Christians prevailed and started to practise their religion openly and assemble in safety.
If a religion is like this, with its followers practicing it in secret and living in constant fear of the sword, it is impossible for things to be transmitted soundly via a continuous chain of narrators and its followers cannot protect it or prevent it from being distorted.
End quote. Al-Fasl, 2/4-5.
In addition to this huge disruption in the chain of transmission of their books, which lasted for two centuries, these books did not remain in the languages in which they were originally written, rather they were translated, more than once, by people whose level of knowledge and honesty is unknown. The contradictions in these books and their shortcomings are among the strongest evidence that they have been distorted and that they are not the Gospel (Injeel) that Allaah revealed to His slave and Messenger ‘Eesa (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said (interpretation of the meaning):
“Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction”
[al-Nisa’ 4:82].
More
Bible Compared to Quran
http://islamtomorrow.com/articles/Bible_vs_Quran.asp
What Do Muslims Believe About the Old and New Testament?
http://www.islamcode.com/
Tomorrow answer the remaining questions Allaah willing,
But the Gospels says that Jesus is the Son of God. How do you explain that contradiction?
The Gospels that are extant nowadays were written after the time of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and have been tampered with a great deal
Praise be to Allaah.
There is no contradiction between the two views such that we would need to ask how they can be reconciled. Rather the reason why the questioner is confused is that he is mixing up two things that we must believe in and that are both true, praise be to Allaah.
The first issue is the Gospel that was revealed from the Lord of the Worlds to the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him). Belief that Allaah revealed a Book to His Prophet ‘Eesa and that the name of this book was the Gospel (Injeel), are basic principles of faith that we must believe in. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say,) ‘We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers’ — and they say, ‘We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)’”
[al-Baqarah 2:285]
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Jibreel, when he asked him about faith, as mentioned in the well-known hadeeth: “Faith means to believe in Allaah, His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in His divine will and decree, both good and bad.” (Agreed upon).
Disbelieving in that or doubting it is misguidance and kufr or disbelief in Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Believe in Allaah, and His Messenger (Muhammad), and the Book (the Qur’aan) which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him); and whosoever disbelieves in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away.
137. Verily, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe (again), and (again) disbelieve, and go on increasing in disbelief; Allaah will not forgive them, nor guide them on the (right) way”
[al-Nisa’ 4:136-137]
“Verily, those who disbelieve in Allaah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allaah and His Messengers (by believing in Allaah and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, “We believe in some but reject others,” and wish to adopt a way in between.
151. They are in truth disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment”
[al-Nisa’ 4:150-151]
The second issue is the Gospel or, more precisely, the Gospels that the Christians have today. Although one of the basic principles of our faith is to believe in the Gospel that was revealed to ‘Eesa, we also believe that there is no longer any book that remained as it was revealed by Allaah, neither the Gospel nor anything else, apart from the Qur’aan. Even the Christians themselves do not believe that the books that they have before them were revealed in that form from God, nor do they claim that the Messiah wrote the Gospel or at least that it was written during his lifetime. Imam Ibn Hazm (may Allaah have mercy on him) says in al-Fasl fi’l-Milal (2/2):
We do not need to try hard to prove that the Gospels and all the books of the Christians did not come from God or from the Messiah (peace be upon him), as we needed to do with regard to the Torah and the books attributed to the Prophets that the Jews have, because the Jews claim that the Torah that they have was revealed from God to Moosa, so we needed to establish proof that this claim of theirs is false. With regard to the Christians, they have taken care of the issue themselves, because they do not believe that the Gospels were revealed from God to the Messiah, or that the Messiah brought them, rather all of them from first to last, peasants and kings, Nestorians, Jacobites, Maronites and Orthodox are all agreed that there are four historical accounts written by four known men at different times. The first of them is the account written by Matthew the Levite who was a disciple of the Messiah, nine years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Hebrew in Judaea in Palestine, and it filled approximately twenty-eight pages in a medium-sized script. The next account was written by Mark, a disciple of Simon ben Yuna, who was called Peter, twenty-two years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek in Antioch in the land of the Byzantines. They say that the Simon mentioned is the one who wrote it, then he erased his name from the beginning of it and attributed it to his disciple Mark. It filled twenty-four pages written in a medium-sized script. This Simon was a disciple of the Messiah. The third account written was that of Luke, a physician of Antioch who was also a disciple of Simon Peter. He wrote it in Greek after Mark had written his account, and is similar in length to the Gospel of Matthew. The fourth account was written by John the son of Zebedee, another disciple of the Messiah, sixty-odd years after the Messiah has been taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek, and it filled twenty-four pages in a medium-sized script. End quote.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Jawaab al-Saheeh (3:21):
With regard to the Gospels that the Christians have, there are four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are agreed that Luke and Mark did not see the Messiah, rather he was seen by Matthew and John. These four accounts which they call the Gospel, and they call each one of them a Gospel, were written by these men after the Messiah had been taken up into heaven. They did not say that they are the word of God or that the Messiah conveyed them from God, rather they narrated some of the words of the Messiah and some of his deeds and miracles. End quote.
Moreover, these books which were written after the time of the Messiah did not remain in their original form. The original versions were lost long ago. Ibn Hazm said:
With regard to the Christians, there is no dispute among them or anyone else that only one hundred and twenty men believed in the Messiah during his lifetime… and all of those who believed in him concealed themselves and were afraid during his lifetime and afterwards; they called people to his religion in secret and none of them disclosed himself or practised his religion openly, because any of them who was caught was executed.
They continued in this manner, not showing themselves at all, and they had no place where they were safe for three hundred years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven.
During this time, the Gospel that had been revealed from Allaah disappeared, apart from a few verses which Allaah preserved as proof against them and as a rebuke to them, as we have mentioned. Then when the Emperor Constantine became a Christian, then the Christians prevailed and started to practise their religion openly and assemble in safety.
If a religion is like this, with its followers practicing it in secret and living in constant fear of the sword, it is impossible for things to be transmitted soundly via a continuous chain of narrators and its followers cannot protect it or prevent it from being distorted.
End quote. Al-Fasl, 2/4-5.
In addition to this huge disruption in the chain of transmission of their books, which lasted for two centuries, these books did not remain in the languages in which they were originally written, rather they were translated, more than once, by people whose level of knowledge and honesty is unknown. The contradictions in these books and their shortcomings are among the strongest evidence that they have been distorted and that they are not the Gospel (Injeel) that Allaah revealed to His slave and Messenger ‘Eesa (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said (interpretation of the meaning):
“Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction”
[al-Nisa’ 4:82].
More
Bible Compared to Quran
http://islamtomorrow.com/articles/Bible_vs_Quran.asp
What Do Muslims Believe About the Old and New Testament?
http://www.islamcode.com/
Tomorrow answer the remaining questions Allaah willing,
If your further answers are of the same quality as the last few posts, you might not want to bother. If I had ever been tempted to look into Islam as a religion for me, you are doing a good job of convincing me otherwise.
Your posts have no actual basis... you just parrot other sites that are just there to preach your religion.
Try some actual research.
Your posts have no actual basis... you just parrot other sites that are just there to preach your religion.
Try some actual research.
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 27 2009, 02:13 AM)
Quran Means "Recitation"
The word "Quran" means "that which is recited;
Only One Version - Arabic
There are no different versions of the Quran in the Arabic language,
Do you have a live memorex recording then?
i.e something more substantive than some variation of I heard from Joe who heard from Jack who heard from.... X1,000
And there different versions of Arabic.
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Nov 26 2009, 09:33 PM)
Try some actual research.
Telling a religious person to do some research about his religion is like telling a police officer to murder some babies.
It just ain't gonna happen, and you're likely to start a lot of trouble with the suggestion.
Telling a religious person to do some research about his religion is like telling a police officer to murder some babies.
It just ain't gonna happen, and you're likely to start a lot of trouble with the suggestion.
QUOTE (RealityCheck+Nov 26 2009, 07:22 PM)
Has it struck anyone argiung above, that while the non-muslim soldier/military are developing more and more ways of AVOIDING civilian casualties by better trageted (ie, smart guided missiles and more and more restrictive/strict 'rules of engagement which perforce put soldiers on the ground in greater danger), the islamic/muslim/asorted other terrorists/states ACTIVELY TARGET INNOCENT CIVILIANS and indulge in COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT operations?
Probably. But admitting it would be antithesis to newguy's modus operandi. He ignores any inconvenient facts, and acknowledges on the convenient ones.
Probably. But admitting it would be antithesis to newguy's modus operandi. He ignores any inconvenient facts, and acknowledges on the convenient ones.
QUOTE
Probably. But admitting it would be antithesis to newguy's modus operandi. He ignores any inconvenient facts, and acknowledges on the convenient ones.
Actually, it's totally irrelevant to my comments. Although orestis attempted to dodge my direct questions, reality still dictates that Hasan shot/killed SOLDIERS and NOT civilians. Admitting that REALITY would be diametrically opposed to your own modus operandi, not to mention orestis'. Anyhow, it's more of the same, here. You people avoid the truth, overlook the outbursts of orestis, including his "gay slur"...you get the picture, don't you? Sad to say, you don't. Well, you can have back your forum. My actual desire in logging on yesterday was to PM some forum members with wishes of a "Happy Thanksgiving"...which I did. Unfortunately, I also posted on this thread which only reminded me of what an incorrigible bunch of people you actually are. Now, I'll officially shake the dust off of my feet as a testimony against you. I'm innocent of your blood.
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 27 2009, 02:56 PM)
reality still dictates that Hasan shot/killed SOLDIERS and NOT civilians
Hassan shot and killed soldiers who were not at war, when they were unprepared. That is equivalent to killing civilians.
Also, almost every major attack by islamic militants was on civilians. Eg: 9/11, Bali bombings, London attacks, Mumbai attacks, Karachi hotel bombing ...
Hassan shot and killed soldiers who were not at war, when they were unprepared. That is equivalent to killing civilians.
Also, almost every major attack by islamic militants was on civilians. Eg: 9/11, Bali bombings, London attacks, Mumbai attacks, Karachi hotel bombing ...
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 26 2009, 12:37 PM)
orestis: Yeah, you both knew what you were there for...
To kill each other.
Some "consolation".
You are right. There is no getting around it.
But you bring out some of the worst things in people. And there is no getting around that for you.
I hope you stick to your word about shaking off the dust of this place. I dont think posting here is doing you any good.
If you go, go in peace. For different reasons I think we are both looking for that.
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 27 2009, 03:26 AM)
Actually, it's totally irrelevant to my comments. Although orestis attempted to dodge my direct questions, reality still dictates that Hasan shot/killed SOLDIERS and NOT civilians. Admitting that REALITY would be diametrically opposed to your own modus operandi, not to mention orestis'. Anyhow, it's more of the same, here. You people avoid the truth, overlook the outbursts of orestis, including his "gay slur"...you get the picture, don't you? Sad to say, you don't. Well, you can have back your forum. My actual desire in logging on yesterday was to PM some forum members with wishes of a "Happy Thanksgiving"...which I did. Unfortunately, I also posted on this thread which only reminded me of what an incorrigible bunch of people you actually are. Now, I'll officially shake the dust off of my feet as a testimony against you. I'm innocent of your blood.
You are a damned fool. You asked no honest questions, you simply shouted something hateful that you think will get a rise out of your victim.
The crap you accuse others of is what you see in your dirty mirror, poor SOB. Don't let the doorknob hit you...
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 27 2009, 04:26 AM)
Actually, it's totally irrelevant to my comments.
No, it isn't. You implied that killing as a part of military duties is wrong. RC pointed out that it's less wrong than what America's current enemies are doing, and established it as the lesser of two evils in the world today. That's very relevant, because it shows how dishonest you are, that you're willing to pass moral judgement on someone for engaging in activities he not only had no choice in, but which operated for the greater good.
No, it isn't. You implied that killing as a part of military duties is wrong. RC pointed out that it's less wrong than what America's current enemies are doing, and established it as the lesser of two evils in the world today. That's very relevant, because it shows how dishonest you are, that you're willing to pass moral judgement on someone for engaging in activities he not only had no choice in, but which operated for the greater good.
How can we be sure that Mohammed did not just make the whole thing up? We only have his word that he talked to an angel. The writer of the Book of Mormon makes similar claims.
People who have claimed to have gotten information from angels is fairly common. It is not a thing anyone can prove.
It does not mean that religion cannot be interesting. It is like enjoying the world of fantasy. The Jedi religion of Star Wars is equally legitimate to any established religion. Fiction has a certain truth in it, but not in terms of provable facts. It is purely subjective.
When I grew up, I was raised Baptist and to believe in God and His Son Jesus. When I saw Star Wars, I was introduced to the idea of the Force, which I found very appealing. George Lucas managed to boil religion down to the basics and to modernize it. I guess that would make him the new Mohammed, new and improved in that there is no violence and it avoids the bad stuff in so many religions.
I have a taste for fantasy and a draw to the mysterious. A certain curiosity for the ultimate is characteristically human. This has been a major theme on Star Trek as well. But being a modern person, who is aware of science, I hold lightly to mysticism.
A question in my mind, "What exactly is the Force?" led me here and to look at science. If you want to know something is a factual way, you have to go to science. This thing we call "God, Force, Allah, Yahweh, Shiva, etc" may be just a poetic way of expressing forces of the universe. That leads to exploration of the world of matter and the four forces of electromagnetism, gravity, strong force and weak force. Whoever your God is, He/She has to be made of that.
All the tales of the gods are fictions, even if interesting. It all boils down to forces. Gods are just symbols or fictional expressions of these forces. The earliest people to realize this were the Norse who believed all was manifested by 24 runes. Gods were subservient to forces, and ultimately what they termed "the magically charged void."
If people could study religions more lightly, without embracing them dogmatically, we'd live in a more peaceful world. No one would kill in the name of religion. No one would oppress others in the name of religion. It is time humanity grew up so we could really enter the Star Trek age.
People who have claimed to have gotten information from angels is fairly common. It is not a thing anyone can prove.
It does not mean that religion cannot be interesting. It is like enjoying the world of fantasy. The Jedi religion of Star Wars is equally legitimate to any established religion. Fiction has a certain truth in it, but not in terms of provable facts. It is purely subjective.
When I grew up, I was raised Baptist and to believe in God and His Son Jesus. When I saw Star Wars, I was introduced to the idea of the Force, which I found very appealing. George Lucas managed to boil religion down to the basics and to modernize it. I guess that would make him the new Mohammed, new and improved in that there is no violence and it avoids the bad stuff in so many religions.
I have a taste for fantasy and a draw to the mysterious. A certain curiosity for the ultimate is characteristically human. This has been a major theme on Star Trek as well. But being a modern person, who is aware of science, I hold lightly to mysticism.
A question in my mind, "What exactly is the Force?" led me here and to look at science. If you want to know something is a factual way, you have to go to science. This thing we call "God, Force, Allah, Yahweh, Shiva, etc" may be just a poetic way of expressing forces of the universe. That leads to exploration of the world of matter and the four forces of electromagnetism, gravity, strong force and weak force. Whoever your God is, He/She has to be made of that.
All the tales of the gods are fictions, even if interesting. It all boils down to forces. Gods are just symbols or fictional expressions of these forces. The earliest people to realize this were the Norse who believed all was manifested by 24 runes. Gods were subservient to forces, and ultimately what they termed "the magically charged void."
If people could study religions more lightly, without embracing them dogmatically, we'd live in a more peaceful world. No one would kill in the name of religion. No one would oppress others in the name of religion. It is time humanity grew up so we could really enter the Star Trek age.
QUOTE (newguy+Nov 27 2009, 09:26 AM)
Although orestis attempted to dodge my direct questions, reality still dictates that Hasan shot/killed SOLDIERS and NOT civilians.
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Nov 26 2009, 03:35 PM)
Also look here for a text by Galen...
Galen's writings
A bit about Galen...
This talk is a Very normal and very simple and ordinary people can know
But
Look at the Word of Allah truly miraculous
It describes everything from the first pregnancy to birth to become an old man very accurate details not confirm that one knows the time he stepped on the Quran to Muhammad peace be upon him
For example,
Allah said
Al-Hajj
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
O mankind! Fear your Lord. Lo! the earthquake of the Hour (of Doom) is a tremendous thing. (1) On the day when ye behold it, every nursing mother will forget her nursling and every pregnant one will be delivered of her burden, and thou (Muhammad) wilt see mankind as drunken, yet they will not be drunken, but the Doom of Allah will be strong (upon them). (2) Among mankind is he who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge, and followeth each froward devil; (3) For him it is decreed that whoso taketh him for friend, he verily will mislead him and will guide him to the punishment of the Flame. (4) O mankind! if ye are in doubt concerning the Resurrection, then lo! We have created you from dust, then from a drop of seed, then from a clot, then from a little lump of flesh shapely and shapeless, that We may make (it) clear for you. And We cause what We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed time, and afterward We bring you forth as infants, then (give you growth) that ye attain your full strength. And among you there is he who dieth (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the most abject time of life, so that, after knowledge, he knoweth naught. And thou (Muhammad) seest the earth barren, but when We send down water thereon, it doth thrill and swell and put forth every lovely kind (of growth). (5) That is because Allah, He is the Truth and Lo! He quickeneth the dead, and Lo! He is Able to do all things; (6) And because the Hour will come, there is no doubt thereof; and because Allah will raise those who are in the graves. (7) And among mankind is he who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge or guidance or a scripture giving light, (8) Turning away in pride to beguile (men) from the way of Allah. For him in this world is ignominy, and on the Day of Resurrection We make him taste the doom of burning. (9) (And unto him it will be said): This is for that which thy two hands have sent before, and because Allah is no oppressor of His slaves. (10)
Allah said
Al-Mumenoon
Verily We created man from a product of wet earth; (12) Then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging; (13) Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators! (14) Then lo! after that ye surely die. (15) Then lo! on the Day of Resurrection ye are raised (again). (16)
Allah said
Al-Ghafir
Allah it is Who hath appointed for you night that ye may rest therein, and day for seeing. Lo! Allah is a Lord of bounty for mankind, yet most of mankind give not thanks. (61) Such is Allah, your Lord, the Creator of all things, There is no God save Him. How then are ye perverted? (62) Thus are they perverted who deny the revelations of Allah. (63) Allah it is Who appointed for you the earth for a dwelling-place and the sky for a canopy, and fashioned you and perfected your shapes, and hath provided you with good things. Such is Allah, your Lord. Then blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds! (64) He is the Living One. There is no God save Him. So pray unto Him, making religion pure for Him (only). Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds! (65) Say (O Muhammad): I am forbidden to worship those unto whom ye cry beside Allah since there have come unto me clear proofs from my Lord, and I am commanded to surrender to the Lord of the Worlds. (66) He it is Who created you from dust, then from a drop (of seed) then from a clot, then bringeth you forth as a child, then (ordaineth) that ye attain full strength and afterward that ye become old men - though some among you die before - and that ye reach an appointed term, that haply ye may understand. (67) He it is Who quickeneth and giveth death. When He ordaineth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (68) Hast thou not seen those who wrangle concerning the revelations of Allah, how they are turned away? - (69) Those who deny the Scripture and that wherewith We send Our messengers. But they will come to know, (70) When carcans are about their necks and chains. They are dragged (71) Through boiling waters; then they are thrust into the Fire. (72) Then it is said unto them: Where are (all) that ye used to make partners (in the Sovereignty) (73) Beside Allah? They say: They have failed us; but we used not to pray to anything before. Thus doth Allah send astray the disbelievers (in His guidance). (74) (And it is said unto them): This is because ye exulted in the earth without right, and because ye were petulant. (75) Enter ye the gates of hell, to dwell therein. Evil is the habitation of the scornful. (76) Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And whether we let thee see a part of that which We promise them, or (whether) We cause thee to die, still unto Us they will be brought back. (77) Verily We sent messengers before thee, among them those of whom We have told thee, and some of whom We have not told thee; and it was not given to any messenger that he should bring a portent save by Allah's leave, but when Allah's commandment cometh (the cause) is judged aright, and the followers of vanity will then be lost. (78) Allah it is Who hath appointed for you cattle, that ye may ride on some of them, and eat of some - (79) (Many) benefits ye have from them - and that ye may satisfy by their means a need that is in your breasts, and may be borne upon them as upon the ship. (80) And He showeth you His tokens. Which, then, of the tokens of Allah do ye deny? (81) Have they not travelled in the land to see the nature of the consequence for those before them? They were more numerous than these, and mightier in power and (in the) traces (which they left behind them) in the earth. But all that they used to earn availed them not. (82) And when their messengers brought them clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) they exulted in the knowledge they (themselves) possessed. And that which they were wont to mock befell them. (83) Then, when they saw Our doom, they said: We believe in Allah only and reject (all) that we used to associate (with Him). (84) But their faith could not avail them when they saw Our doom. This is Allah's law which hath ever taken course for His bondmen. And then the disbelievers will be ruined. (85)
Galen's writings
A bit about Galen...
This talk is a Very normal and very simple and ordinary people can know
But
Look at the Word of Allah truly miraculous
It describes everything from the first pregnancy to birth to become an old man very accurate details not confirm that one knows the time he stepped on the Quran to Muhammad peace be upon him
For example,
Allah said
Al-Hajj
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
O mankind! Fear your Lord. Lo! the earthquake of the Hour (of Doom) is a tremendous thing. (1) On the day when ye behold it, every nursing mother will forget her nursling and every pregnant one will be delivered of her burden, and thou (Muhammad) wilt see mankind as drunken, yet they will not be drunken, but the Doom of Allah will be strong (upon them). (2) Among mankind is he who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge, and followeth each froward devil; (3) For him it is decreed that whoso taketh him for friend, he verily will mislead him and will guide him to the punishment of the Flame. (4) O mankind! if ye are in doubt concerning the Resurrection, then lo! We have created you from dust, then from a drop of seed, then from a clot, then from a little lump of flesh shapely and shapeless, that We may make (it) clear for you. And We cause what We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed time, and afterward We bring you forth as infants, then (give you growth) that ye attain your full strength. And among you there is he who dieth (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the most abject time of life, so that, after knowledge, he knoweth naught. And thou (Muhammad) seest the earth barren, but when We send down water thereon, it doth thrill and swell and put forth every lovely kind (of growth). (5) That is because Allah, He is the Truth and Lo! He quickeneth the dead, and Lo! He is Able to do all things; (6) And because the Hour will come, there is no doubt thereof; and because Allah will raise those who are in the graves. (7) And among mankind is he who disputeth concerning Allah without knowledge or guidance or a scripture giving light, (8) Turning away in pride to beguile (men) from the way of Allah. For him in this world is ignominy, and on the Day of Resurrection We make him taste the doom of burning. (9) (And unto him it will be said): This is for that which thy two hands have sent before, and because Allah is no oppressor of His slaves. (10)
Allah said
Al-Mumenoon
Verily We created man from a product of wet earth; (12) Then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging; (13) Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators! (14) Then lo! after that ye surely die. (15) Then lo! on the Day of Resurrection ye are raised (again). (16)
Allah said
Al-Ghafir
Allah it is Who hath appointed for you night that ye may rest therein, and day for seeing. Lo! Allah is a Lord of bounty for mankind, yet most of mankind give not thanks. (61) Such is Allah, your Lord, the Creator of all things, There is no God save Him. How then are ye perverted? (62) Thus are they perverted who deny the revelations of Allah. (63) Allah it is Who appointed for you the earth for a dwelling-place and the sky for a canopy, and fashioned you and perfected your shapes, and hath provided you with good things. Such is Allah, your Lord. Then blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds! (64) He is the Living One. There is no God save Him. So pray unto Him, making religion pure for Him (only). Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds! (65) Say (O Muhammad): I am forbidden to worship those unto whom ye cry beside Allah since there have come unto me clear proofs from my Lord, and I am commanded to surrender to the Lord of the Worlds. (66) He it is Who created you from dust, then from a drop (of seed) then from a clot, then bringeth you forth as a child, then (ordaineth) that ye attain full strength and afterward that ye become old men - though some among you die before - and that ye reach an appointed term, that haply ye may understand. (67) He it is Who quickeneth and giveth death. When He ordaineth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (68) Hast thou not seen those who wrangle concerning the revelations of Allah, how they are turned away? - (69) Those who deny the Scripture and that wherewith We send Our messengers. But they will come to know, (70) When carcans are about their necks and chains. They are dragged (71) Through boiling waters; then they are thrust into the Fire. (72) Then it is said unto them: Where are (all) that ye used to make partners (in the Sovereignty) (73) Beside Allah? They say: They have failed us; but we used not to pray to anything before. Thus doth Allah send astray the disbelievers (in His guidance). (74) (And it is said unto them): This is because ye exulted in the earth without right, and because ye were petulant. (75) Enter ye the gates of hell, to dwell therein. Evil is the habitation of the scornful. (76) Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And whether we let thee see a part of that which We promise them, or (whether) We cause thee to die, still unto Us they will be brought back. (77) Verily We sent messengers before thee, among them those of whom We have told thee, and some of whom We have not told thee; and it was not given to any messenger that he should bring a portent save by Allah's leave, but when Allah's commandment cometh (the cause) is judged aright, and the followers of vanity will then be lost. (78) Allah it is Who hath appointed for you cattle, that ye may ride on some of them, and eat of some - (79) (Many) benefits ye have from them - and that ye may satisfy by their means a need that is in your breasts, and may be borne upon them as upon the ship. (80) And He showeth you His tokens. Which, then, of the tokens of Allah do ye deny? (81) Have they not travelled in the land to see the nature of the consequence for those before them? They were more numerous than these, and mightier in power and (in the) traces (which they left behind them) in the earth. But all that they used to earn availed them not. (82) And when their messengers brought them clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) they exulted in the knowledge they (themselves) possessed. And that which they were wont to mock befell them. (83) Then, when they saw Our doom, they said: We believe in Allah only and reject (all) that we used to associate (with Him). (84) But their faith could not avail them when they saw Our doom. This is Allah's law which hath ever taken course for His bondmen. And then the disbelievers will be ruined. (85)
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 27 2009, 02:46 AM)
Do you have a live memorex recording then?
i.e something more substantive than some variation of I heard from Joe who heard from Jack who heard from.... X1,000
And there different versions of Arabic.
Sorry my friend did not understand what you want
Do you want to listen to the Holy Quran Arabic language
Gladly Welcome
Quran Arabic language only
http://ia331411.us.archive.org/3/items/TvQ...an.com__020.mp3
http://www.tvquran.com/en/
Quran with Translation audio
http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx
Tafsir is an arabic word تفسير which is derived from the root 'fassara' which means to "explain" or to "expound". It is best understood as 'explanation' or 'interpretation' of the Qur'an.
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php
i.e something more substantive than some variation of I heard from Joe who heard from Jack who heard from.... X1,000
And there different versions of Arabic.
Sorry my friend did not understand what you want
Do you want to listen to the Holy Quran Arabic language
Gladly Welcome
Quran Arabic language only
http://ia331411.us.archive.org/3/items/TvQ...an.com__020.mp3
http://www.tvquran.com/en/
Quran with Translation audio
http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx
Tafsir is an arabic word تفسير which is derived from the root 'fassara' which means to "explain" or to "expound". It is best understood as 'explanation' or 'interpretation' of the Qur'an.
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php
QUOTE (Empress Palpatine+Nov 27 2009, 06:00 PM)
How can we be sure that Mohammed did not just make the whole thing up? We only have his word that he talked to an angel. The writer of the Book of Mormon makes similar claims.
People who have claimed to have gotten information from angels is fairly common. It is not a thing anyone can prove.
If Muhammad peace be upon him who wrote the Koran, why did not mention the name of the wife Khadija, or beloved daughter Fatima Zahra to his heart instead of name Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them
The name of Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them repeated 31 times in the Koran did not mention the name of Mrs. Khadija even once
There is an entire surah in the Qur'aan on name Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them
These are some verses in Sura Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them
Allah said
Maryam
And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East, (16) And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. (17) She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if thou art God-fearing. (18) He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. (19) She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste? (20) He said: So (it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it will be) that We may make of him a Portent for mankind and a mercy from Us, and it is a thing ordained. (21) And she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place. (22) And the pangs of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of the palm-tree. She said: Oh, would that I had died ere this and had become a thing of naught, forgotten! (23) Then (one) cried unto her from below her, saying: Grieve not! Thy Lord hath placed a rivulet beneath thee, (24) And shake the trunk of the palm-tree toward thee, thou wilt cause ripe dates to fall upon thee. (25) So eat and drink and be consoled. And if thou meetest any mortal, say: Lo! I have vowed a fast unto the Beneficent, and may not speak this day to any mortal. (26) Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. (27) O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot. (28) Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy? (29) He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet, (30) And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive, (31) And (hath made me) dutiful toward her who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest. (32) Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! (33) Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt. (34) It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (35) And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. (36) The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day. (37) How well they hear and see and hear them on the Day they come unto Us! yet the evil-doers are to-day in error manifest. (38) And warn them of the Day of anguish when the case hath been decided. Now they are in a state of carelessness, and they believe not. (39) Lo! We, inherit the earth and all who are thereon, and unto Us they are returned. (40)
Is not this the biggest proof that this Qur'aan is the word of One God on
In conclusion,
Let me ask you a question
if someone beat you or kill, or rape Do you want to be punished or not?
People who have claimed to have gotten information from angels is fairly common. It is not a thing anyone can prove.
If Muhammad peace be upon him who wrote the Koran, why did not mention the name of the wife Khadija, or beloved daughter Fatima Zahra to his heart instead of name Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them
The name of Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them repeated 31 times in the Koran did not mention the name of Mrs. Khadija even once
There is an entire surah in the Qur'aan on name Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them
These are some verses in Sura Ms. Mary the mother of Jesus peace be upon them
Allah said
Maryam
And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East, (16) And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. (17) She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if thou art God-fearing. (18) He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. (19) She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste? (20) He said: So (it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it will be) that We may make of him a Portent for mankind and a mercy from Us, and it is a thing ordained. (21) And she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place. (22) And the pangs of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of the palm-tree. She said: Oh, would that I had died ere this and had become a thing of naught, forgotten! (23) Then (one) cried unto her from below her, saying: Grieve not! Thy Lord hath placed a rivulet beneath thee, (24) And shake the trunk of the palm-tree toward thee, thou wilt cause ripe dates to fall upon thee. (25) So eat and drink and be consoled. And if thou meetest any mortal, say: Lo! I have vowed a fast unto the Beneficent, and may not speak this day to any mortal. (26) Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. (27) O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot. (28) Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy? (29) He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet, (30) And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive, (31) And (hath made me) dutiful toward her who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest. (32) Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! (33) Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt. (34) It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (35) And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. (36) The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day. (37) How well they hear and see and hear them on the Day they come unto Us! yet the evil-doers are to-day in error manifest. (38) And warn them of the Day of anguish when the case hath been decided. Now they are in a state of carelessness, and they believe not. (39) Lo! We, inherit the earth and all who are thereon, and unto Us they are returned. (40)
Is not this the biggest proof that this Qur'aan is the word of One God on
In conclusion,
Let me ask you a question
if someone beat you or kill, or rape Do you want to be punished or not?
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 28 2009, 12:02 AM)
Sorry my friend did not understand what you want
I mean how do I know Mohamed didn't imagine it?
how can I know he got it right?
What I wanted was a certified recording of Gabriel.
So far everything you have said depends on Gabriel reciting the word of God to Mohamed.
How can we know the difference between that and Mohamed being crazy and making it all up.
But mainly what I would like to know is why God or Allah or whatever you want to call him, use the methods and techniques of liars and charlatans.
That is liars, cheats, and charlatans all say "trust me". Why does God follow their example?
I mean how do I know Mohamed didn't imagine it?
how can I know he got it right?
What I wanted was a certified recording of Gabriel.
So far everything you have said depends on Gabriel reciting the word of God to Mohamed.
How can we know the difference between that and Mohamed being crazy and making it all up.
But mainly what I would like to know is why God or Allah or whatever you want to call him, use the methods and techniques of liars and charlatans.
That is liars, cheats, and charlatans all say "trust me". Why does God follow their example?
QUOTE (Grumpy+Oct 19 2008, 01:36 PM)
We must distinguish between "purpose", as defined by "reason we come into existence", and "purpose", as in the reasons to live we find for ourselves.
It is the first which simply does not exist, there are no "reasons" that life or the Universe came to be, it just is. It is up to us to determine our own justification for our continued existence.
Grumpy
Grumpy
You asked the best question and said it best.
The reason we came into existence can be answered by the fallowing links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l82vN_x3Pg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acTpvGOaXoQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6aCBOwOyZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAmX8Aanbbs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHuBF7D4joo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1dRq3fzEhY&feature=related
Carl Sagan explains the origin of life in scientific terms. This is a more humble beginning than religion offers but it is more proven than any one of the myths out their. Of course this means that we have no purpose in the sense of a Destiny except that which we give to our selves. Or the positions that we are stuck in depending on where chance has put you. We can decide to use our brains and choose to be kind to one another or continue to fallow superstition and religions killing all who disagree with our dogmatic view. We can turn to science and have a more educated view thus being more logical rather than giving in to our passions for destruction. We can except our humble spot in a vast universe realizing that we are but a "Pale Blue Dot" in a vast universe. The universe being so large we should realize that there is possibility that life exists on other worlds. This should humble us and remind us not to be so arrogant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAteAz3WQ0&feature=related
These words should be considered. Carl Sagan reminds us of the two choices we have as a species. We can choose "Words of life or words of death". The choice is ours. I only hope more people will wake up and heed the words of this gentle smart man.
It is the first which simply does not exist, there are no "reasons" that life or the Universe came to be, it just is. It is up to us to determine our own justification for our continued existence.
Grumpy
Grumpy
You asked the best question and said it best.
The reason we came into existence can be answered by the fallowing links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l82vN_x3Pg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acTpvGOaXoQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6aCBOwOyZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAmX8Aanbbs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHuBF7D4joo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1dRq3fzEhY&feature=related
Carl Sagan explains the origin of life in scientific terms. This is a more humble beginning than religion offers but it is more proven than any one of the myths out their. Of course this means that we have no purpose in the sense of a Destiny except that which we give to our selves. Or the positions that we are stuck in depending on where chance has put you. We can decide to use our brains and choose to be kind to one another or continue to fallow superstition and religions killing all who disagree with our dogmatic view. We can turn to science and have a more educated view thus being more logical rather than giving in to our passions for destruction. We can except our humble spot in a vast universe realizing that we are but a "Pale Blue Dot" in a vast universe. The universe being so large we should realize that there is possibility that life exists on other worlds. This should humble us and remind us not to be so arrogant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAteAz3WQ0&feature=related
These words should be considered. Carl Sagan reminds us of the two choices we have as a species. We can choose "Words of life or words of death". The choice is ours. I only hope more people will wake up and heed the words of this gentle smart man.
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 28 2009, 12:02 AM)
Sorry my friend did not understand what you want
Why do you have such faith in your friend?
And why did you not turn to Allah, Mohamed or the Koran for answers?
Why another human?
And has he told you not to come here anymore, yet?
Why do you have such faith in your friend?
And why did you not turn to Allah, Mohamed or the Koran for answers?
Why another human?
And has he told you not to come here anymore, yet?
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 28 2009, 01:30 AM)
I mean how do I know Mohamed didn't imagine it?
how can I know he got it right?
Open challenge to all people, fourteen centuries ago, especially those who deny the message of the Koran, could not one of the geniuses of human beings to respond to the challenge now. Has declared the Koran aloud
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
The Challenge of the Quran
Description: The Qur'anic challenge to produce a work similar to it, and the inability of its contemporaries to meet it.
By Dr. Bilal Philips
The Quran is not only unique in the way in which it presents its subject matter, but it is also unique in that it is a miracle itself. By the term “miracle,” we mean the performance of a supernatural or extraordinary event which cannot be duplicated by humans. It has been documented that Prophet Muhammad, may God praise him, challenged the Arabs to produce a literary work of a similar caliber as the Quran, but they were unable to do so in spite of their well-known eloquence and literary powers. The challenge to reproduce the Quran was presented to the Arabs and mankind in three stages:
l. The Whole Quran
In the Quran, God commanded the Prophet to challenge all of creation to create a book of the stature of the Quran:
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
2. Ten Chapters
Next, God made the challenge ostensibly easier by asking those who denied its divine origin to imitate even ten chapters of the Quran:
“Or do they say that he has invented it? Say (to them), ‘Bring ten invented chapters like it, and call (for help) on whomever you can besides God, if you are truthful.” (Quran 11:13)
3. One Chapter
This final challenge was to produce even a single chapter to match what is in the Quran, whose shortest chapter, al-Kawthar, consists of only three verses:
“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
These challenges were not just empty words with no one caring to prove them wrong. Prophet Muhammad’s call to monotheism, to the abolition of idolatry in all its forms, and to the equality of slaves and their masters threatened the whole socio-economic framework of Mecca society in general, and the position of the ruling Quraishee tribe from which the Prophet came in particular. Mecca, the trading center of Arabia, as well as its spiritual center, desperately wanted to stop the spread of Islam. Yet all that the Prophet’s opponents had to do to crush the movement was to make up a single chapter like any one of those which the Prophet and his followers were reciting to the people. A number of Quraishee orators and poets tried to imitate the Quran, but they failed. They then resorted to offering him vast amounts of wealth, the position of king over them, and the most noble and beautiful of their women in exchange for his promise to stop inviting people to Islam. He responded to them by reciting the first thirteen verses of Chapter Fussilat, until they asked him to stop.[1] The Quraish also resorted to torturing their slaves and relatives who had embraced Islam in a vain attempt to cause them to revert to paganism. Later they organized an economic boycott against the Prophet his followers and the members of his clan, Banu Hashim, in an attempt to starve them into submission. But even this plan eventually failed. Finally, they plotted to kill him in his home by sending armed young men from each of the clans of Quraish in order that the guilt of his murder be shared by all the clans, making revenge by the Prophet’s clan impossible.
However, God enabled the Prophet and his followers to flee Mecca and join a new band of converts who had arisen among the tribes of a city to the north called Yathrib. Islam spread rapidly through the clans of Yathrib, and within a year Muslims became the city’s majority. Prophet Muhammad was then made the ruler, and the name of the city was changed to Medina an-Nabi (The City of the Prophet may God praise him), which was then shortened to “Medina.” Over the next eight years, the clans of Mecca and its neighboring lands mounted a series of unsuccessful battle campaigns against the emerging Muslim state in Medina, which ended with the Muslim invasion of Mecca itself.
All of this bloodshed could have been avoided if only the Quraish and their allies had been able to produce a mere three lines of poetry or flowing prose similar to the shortest chapter of the Quran. Hence, there can be no doubt about the inimitability of the Quran’s literary style, about the miracle of its rhyme and the marvel of its rhythm.
It has been suggested that the inimitability of the Quran is not necessarily unique, for great English poets like Shakespeare, Chaucer, or great poets in any language tend to have distinctly unique styles which set them apart from their contemporaries. However, if, for example, some leading poet of today were to make an in-depth study of Shakespeare’s writings and write a sonnet in Shakespeare’s style in old ink and on old paper, then claim that he had discovered a lost poem of Shakespeare’s, the literary world would probably accept this claim, even after careful study. Thus, even the greatest of poets could be imitated; no matter how unique his style was, just as the famous painters have been imitated. [In fact, some English scholars consider much of what has been attributed to Shakespeare to have been written by his contemporary, Christopher Marlowe.] The Quran, however, is way above this level, as attempts to forge chapters have been made throughout the ages, yet none has withstood close scrutiny. And, as was mentioned before, the incentive to imitate the Quran was more intense during the time of its revelation when literally skills were at their peak than at any other time, yet there was no successful attempt.
Footnotes:
[1] Collected by al-Hakim, al-Bayhaqee, Aboo Ya’laa and Ibn Hishaam, and declared Hasan by Ibrahim al-’Alee in Sahih as-Seerah an-Nabaweeyah, p.64.
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...f_the_Quran.pdf
For more on the Qur’an
The Amazing Quran
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_books/...azing_Quran.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_bo...azing_Quran.doc
The authorship of The Qur’an (1 of 3):
The Words of a human?
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...rdsofahuman.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...rdsofahuman.doc
The authorship of The Qur’an (3 of 3):
Was it the Words of Satan or God?
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...fSatanorGod.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...fSatanorGod.doc
The authorship of The Qur’an (2 of 3):
The Words of a Poet or a Teacher?
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...toraTeacher.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...toraTeacher.doc
Scientific Accuracy of the Quran Amazes University of Toronto Professor.
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...toProfessor.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...toProfessor.doc
Quran Challenge for Humanity
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...forHumanity.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...forHumanity.doc
that Islam is the religion of instinct, security, happiness, and wise rulings, and high moral character,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...s-released.html
Is this your *** wise rulings and high moral character? You may have had a good man in Saladin but your religion hasn't done anything to help people since then.
Black Sudan was starving, did Islam feed them? No. Islam killed them.
And YOU and other Muslim countries didn't do a damn thing to stop it.
"Security, happiness, wise ruling?"
! We invite you to Islam where you'll find happiness, and recognize the Creator who created you from nothing, and leave the worship of human beings And worship the Lord of mankind, and when we invite you to Islam, we invite you to the religion of all prophets and messengers, and we invite you to a religion that is the seal of God Almighty the divine messages, and invite you to believe in Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, which marched on the road to his brothers the prophets before him, and look around the one who enters this great religion of the leaders, and politicians, scientists, thinkers, famous, to learn that they did not have to choose which is not what will convince them that right, and those are not fools, nor naive, and have no interest personal embrace of Islam, but is the conviction, and has found it as happy and delighted their hearts.
1. Said: "Robert Dickson" President of the American Bar Association: My answer to those who asked me why I became Muslim: is: Islam is the religion of monotheism, happiness, and psychological comfort, and dignified living carefree, if you stick to it and apply its teachings, the religion of divine justice.
2. He said, "Yusuf Khattab" - a convert from Judaism to Islam - when he was asked why I became Muslim? : Because Islam is the religion of monotheism, I read a lot about him, and finally convinced that it is the way to the Commission.
There are many words, and combines them that Islam is the religion of instinct, security, happiness, and wise rulings, and high moral character, and compares between Islam and other religions, distorted, or human systems and laws: it turns out will clearly see the difference, and that there is no room for comparison at all.
We ask Allaah to guide you.
You didn't answer the questions.
Why do you have faith in your friend?
Why did you not turn to Allah or the Koran to answer my questions?
All you did was give me more questions
Why is it relevant that I can find happiness?
Why ask Allah to guide me?
He doesn't seem to do a consistent job with people who are already Muslim.
A lot of follower of his religion of peace turn to violence.
Why does he not guide them to peaceful action?
Or if he's warlike, why does he guide some followers to peace?
Is he inconsistent or is not guiding all Muslims?
how can I know he got it right?
Open challenge to all people, fourteen centuries ago, especially those who deny the message of the Koran, could not one of the geniuses of human beings to respond to the challenge now. Has declared the Koran aloud
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
The Challenge of the Quran
Description: The Qur'anic challenge to produce a work similar to it, and the inability of its contemporaries to meet it.
By Dr. Bilal Philips
The Quran is not only unique in the way in which it presents its subject matter, but it is also unique in that it is a miracle itself. By the term “miracle,” we mean the performance of a supernatural or extraordinary event which cannot be duplicated by humans. It has been documented that Prophet Muhammad, may God praise him, challenged the Arabs to produce a literary work of a similar caliber as the Quran, but they were unable to do so in spite of their well-known eloquence and literary powers. The challenge to reproduce the Quran was presented to the Arabs and mankind in three stages:
l. The Whole Quran
In the Quran, God commanded the Prophet to challenge all of creation to create a book of the stature of the Quran:
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
2. Ten Chapters
Next, God made the challenge ostensibly easier by asking those who denied its divine origin to imitate even ten chapters of the Quran:
“Or do they say that he has invented it? Say (to them), ‘Bring ten invented chapters like it, and call (for help) on whomever you can besides God, if you are truthful.” (Quran 11:13)
3. One Chapter
This final challenge was to produce even a single chapter to match what is in the Quran, whose shortest chapter, al-Kawthar, consists of only three verses:
“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
These challenges were not just empty words with no one caring to prove them wrong. Prophet Muhammad’s call to monotheism, to the abolition of idolatry in all its forms, and to the equality of slaves and their masters threatened the whole socio-economic framework of Mecca society in general, and the position of the ruling Quraishee tribe from which the Prophet came in particular. Mecca, the trading center of Arabia, as well as its spiritual center, desperately wanted to stop the spread of Islam. Yet all that the Prophet’s opponents had to do to crush the movement was to make up a single chapter like any one of those which the Prophet and his followers were reciting to the people. A number of Quraishee orators and poets tried to imitate the Quran, but they failed. They then resorted to offering him vast amounts of wealth, the position of king over them, and the most noble and beautiful of their women in exchange for his promise to stop inviting people to Islam. He responded to them by reciting the first thirteen verses of Chapter Fussilat, until they asked him to stop.[1] The Quraish also resorted to torturing their slaves and relatives who had embraced Islam in a vain attempt to cause them to revert to paganism. Later they organized an economic boycott against the Prophet his followers and the members of his clan, Banu Hashim, in an attempt to starve them into submission. But even this plan eventually failed. Finally, they plotted to kill him in his home by sending armed young men from each of the clans of Quraish in order that the guilt of his murder be shared by all the clans, making revenge by the Prophet’s clan impossible.
However, God enabled the Prophet and his followers to flee Mecca and join a new band of converts who had arisen among the tribes of a city to the north called Yathrib. Islam spread rapidly through the clans of Yathrib, and within a year Muslims became the city’s majority. Prophet Muhammad was then made the ruler, and the name of the city was changed to Medina an-Nabi (The City of the Prophet may God praise him), which was then shortened to “Medina.” Over the next eight years, the clans of Mecca and its neighboring lands mounted a series of unsuccessful battle campaigns against the emerging Muslim state in Medina, which ended with the Muslim invasion of Mecca itself.
All of this bloodshed could have been avoided if only the Quraish and their allies had been able to produce a mere three lines of poetry or flowing prose similar to the shortest chapter of the Quran. Hence, there can be no doubt about the inimitability of the Quran’s literary style, about the miracle of its rhyme and the marvel of its rhythm.
It has been suggested that the inimitability of the Quran is not necessarily unique, for great English poets like Shakespeare, Chaucer, or great poets in any language tend to have distinctly unique styles which set them apart from their contemporaries. However, if, for example, some leading poet of today were to make an in-depth study of Shakespeare’s writings and write a sonnet in Shakespeare’s style in old ink and on old paper, then claim that he had discovered a lost poem of Shakespeare’s, the literary world would probably accept this claim, even after careful study. Thus, even the greatest of poets could be imitated; no matter how unique his style was, just as the famous painters have been imitated. [In fact, some English scholars consider much of what has been attributed to Shakespeare to have been written by his contemporary, Christopher Marlowe.] The Quran, however, is way above this level, as attempts to forge chapters have been made throughout the ages, yet none has withstood close scrutiny. And, as was mentioned before, the incentive to imitate the Quran was more intense during the time of its revelation when literally skills were at their peak than at any other time, yet there was no successful attempt.
Footnotes:
[1] Collected by al-Hakim, al-Bayhaqee, Aboo Ya’laa and Ibn Hishaam, and declared Hasan by Ibrahim al-’Alee in Sahih as-Seerah an-Nabaweeyah, p.64.
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...f_the_Quran.pdf
For more on the Qur’an
The Amazing Quran
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_books/...azing_Quran.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_bo...azing_Quran.doc
The authorship of The Qur’an (1 of 3):
The Words of a human?
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...rdsofahuman.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...rdsofahuman.doc
The authorship of The Qur’an (3 of 3):
Was it the Words of Satan or God?
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...fSatanorGod.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...fSatanorGod.doc
The authorship of The Qur’an (2 of 3):
The Words of a Poet or a Teacher?
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...toraTeacher.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...toraTeacher.doc
Scientific Accuracy of the Quran Amazes University of Toronto Professor.
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...toProfessor.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...toProfessor.doc
Quran Challenge for Humanity
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...forHumanity.pdf
or
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_ar...forHumanity.doc
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 28 2009, 01:30 AM)
What I wanted was a certified recording of Gabriel.
Evidence for the truth of the Prophethood of Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him
Praise be to Allaah.
First of all, it is essential to understand that guidance to the true religion of Islam and belief in the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the message he brought comes about only by the help of Allaah, and that we are required to explain this and produce evidence of it.
There is a great deal of clear evidence for the one who seeks to find out the truth about the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), including the following:
Allaah chose him even though he had grown up as an orphan and was illiterate, knowing neither how to read or write. All good qualities and virtues were perfected in him, to the point of ultimate perfection. All these good qualities were combined and firmly established in him, something which no one else can attain except the Prophets whom Allaah protected and guided. This combination of perfect qualities is one of the greatest proofs of the truth of his Prophethood (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The revelation of Allaah was bestowed upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Angel of Revelation, Jibreel (Gabriel), who is recognized by all the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], came to him, and when he received revelation, there were unusual effects on him that indicated the intensity of the effort involved in receiving the Message of Allaah from Jibreel, upon whom be peace. His Companions witnessed this when he received Revelation, and they believed that the revelation was something that came from an outside source and was beyond his control; it came to him from (Allaah), the Wise and Praiseworthy.
Allaah supported the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) with physical miracles, with which he challenged his people. Among the most important of these were the splitting of the moon and the Night Journey to Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem). They were unable to match these miracles, and so they were a decisive, divine testimony to the truth of his Prophethood (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Allaah supported him with miracles and evidence for people of reason and understanding, the greatest of which was the Qur’aan. This was the greatest sign, which contains in its pages miracles of both style and content, which all of mankind cannot match or imitate, even if they gather together for that purpose. This is clear from the statements of the most eloquent of the Arabs, who were completely unable to match it. The Qur’aan was – and centuries later still is, praise be to Allaah – an eternal miracle as is evident in its brilliant style, its information about the Unseen, its fulfilment of the promises of Allaah, the superiority of its laws, and the fact that its rulings are appropriate for every time and place – in addition to the fact that it has such a moving impact on people’s hearts.
The Qur’aan refers to the signs and proofs surrounding the person of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which testify to his truthfulness. For example, he was free of sin and trivial spitefulness; he grew up illiterate in the Arabian Peninsula, and did not receive any religious knowledge from beyond its borders, nor did he spend time acquiring any religious knowledge. When he reached the age of forty, he brought divine knowledge that none of the earlier or later generations could produce. He also received special protection and care from Allaah, which kept him safe at times of crisis; if it were not for this protection he would most certainly have been doomed to destruction. None of this could have happened except to one who was truly sent from Allaah.
His coming was foretold in the Tawraat (Torah) and Injeel (Gospel), and some of the People of the Book saw that these prophecies applied in totality to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which led them to embrace Islam. There are still passages in the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments, in the versions that are accepted by the People of the Book, that clearly refer to the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – for example in the Gospel of Barnabas, which is considered by Christians to be the most authentic Gospel.
The Message of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not unique to him, but was in nature and content similar to the message brought by other Messengers before him. Allaah had sent Prophets and Messengers, such as Moosa (Moses), ‘Eesa (Jesus) and others, to the Children of Israel, and great numbers had believed in them and borne witness to the truth of their Books, which were similar in general terms to the message brought by the Qur’aan. This was eloquent testimony to the truth of the Message with which he was sent, especially as it belonged to the same type of Message to whose truth they had testified.
When Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) with the same Message as the Prophets who had come before him, the Qur’aan came to confirm their Books and their Prophethood, and to call people to believe in them. So when the People of the Book disbelieved in him and his Book, it meant that they were disbelieving in their own Books and Messengers. As the Qur’aan contained the same principles as their books, and confirmed them, this meant that it was the least likely to be fabricated or to have come from a source other than Allaah, because all of them came from Allaah, may He be exalted.
In summary, then, the proof of truthfulness is quite clear in this case. The evidence is there both in (historical) reports and on the grounds of common sense. This will cure the ill (i.e., the one who has doubts) and quench the thirst (of the one who longs for knowledge), as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… Indeed, there has come to you from Allaah a Light (prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and a plain Book (the Qur’aan), wherewith Allaah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light, and guides them to a Straight Way” [al-Maa’idah 5:15-16].
Jibreel (peace be upon him) spoke to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) directly, with no barrier in between, and the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw him in his true form. This was reported in many aayaat (verses of the Qur’aan) and ahaadeeth (reports of the things that the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said and did).
1. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“By the star when it goes down (or vanishes).
Your companion (Muhammad) has neither gone astray nor has erred.
Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
It is only a Revelation revealed.
He has been taught (this Qur’aan) by one mighty in power [Jibreel (Gabriel)].”
[al-Najm 53:1-5]
The mufassireen (commentators on the Qur’aan) have stated that what is meant by “one mighty in power” is Jibreel (peace be upon him), who taught Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the Revelation. One of the ways in which Revelation happened is when the angel spoke directly to the Prophet. This indicates that Jibreel (peace be upon him) spoke to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This idea is also supported by the aayahs (interpretation of the meaning):
“And truly, this (the Qur’aan) is a revelation from the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists),
Which the trustworthy Rooh [Jibreel (Gabriel)] has brought down
Upon your heart (O Muhammad) that you may be (one) of the warners,
In the plain Arabic language”
[al-Shu’araa’ 26:192-195]
“Say (O Muhammad): “Whoever is an enemy to Jibreel (Gabriel) (let him die in his fury), for indeed he has brought it (this Qur’aan) down to your heart by Allaah’s Permission, confirming what came before it [i.e. the Tauraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] and guidance and glad tidings for the believers”
[al-Baqarah 2:97]
2. The First Revelation, as is well known, happened when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was in seclusion in the cave of Hiraa’. Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to him and commanded him to read. It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah the Mother of the Believers (may Allaah be pleased with her) said:
“The first of the Wahy (Revelation) that came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was seeing true dreams; he never saw any dream but it came true like the break of day. Then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go into seclusion in the cave of Hiraa’ where he would worship Allaah continuously for many nights, until he went back to see his family to collect more provisions. He would go back to Khadeejah, and take provisions with him for a similar number of nights. (This went on) until the truth came to him when he was in the cave of Hiraa’. The angels came to him and said, ‘Read!’ He said, ‘I am not a reader.’ He [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] said: he embraced me and squeezed me so hard that I almost could bear it no longer, then he released me and said, ‘Read!’ I said, I am not a reader.’ Then he embraced me a second time and squeezed me so hard that I almost could bear it no longer, then he released me and said, ‘Read!’ I said, I am not a reader.’ Then he embraced me a third time and squeezed me so hard that I almost could bear it no longer, then he released me and said, ‘Read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists). He has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood). Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous.’ [al-‘Alaq 96:1-3 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came back with (the Revelation) and with his heart pounding wildly.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 3; Muslim, no. 231).
3. It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that al-Haarith ibn Hishaam (may Allaah be pleased with him) asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “O Messenger of Allaah, how does the Revelation come to you?” The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Sometimes it comes to me like the ringing of a bell, which is the hardest of all, then it passes once I have grasped what is said. And sometimes the angel comes to me in the form of a man and speaks to me, and I grasp what he says…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2).
4. The lengthy hadeeth about Jibreel, when he came in the form of a man, a stranger, and sat down with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and asked him about Islam, Eemaan (faith) and Ihsaan (goodness, perfection). The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) answered his questions, knowing that he was Jibreel. When he had finished asking his questions and had gone away, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told his companions that this was Jibreel, who had come to teach them their religion. See Saheeh al-Bukhaari, no. 48; Muslim, no. 9.
5. The reports about the Israa’ and Mi’raaj (Prophet’s night journey from Makkah to Jerusalem, and ascent from Jerusalem into the seven heavens). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) asked Jibreel questions, and Jibreel answered him. See Saheeh al-Bukhaari, no. 2968; Muslim, no. 238, and the ahaadeeth which tell the story of the Israa’ and Mi’raaj.
6. There are also many ahaadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) says, “Jibreel came to me and said…”, such as the hadeeth in which he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to me and said, ‘Whoever among your ummah (nation) dies not associating anything with Allaah, will enter Paradise.’ I said, ‘Even if he does such and such?’ He said, ‘Yes.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2213; Muslim, no. 137)
And there is more, similar, evidence. And Allaah knows best.
Evidence for the truth of the Prophethood of Muhammad peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him
Praise be to Allaah.
First of all, it is essential to understand that guidance to the true religion of Islam and belief in the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the message he brought comes about only by the help of Allaah, and that we are required to explain this and produce evidence of it.
There is a great deal of clear evidence for the one who seeks to find out the truth about the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), including the following:
Allaah chose him even though he had grown up as an orphan and was illiterate, knowing neither how to read or write. All good qualities and virtues were perfected in him, to the point of ultimate perfection. All these good qualities were combined and firmly established in him, something which no one else can attain except the Prophets whom Allaah protected and guided. This combination of perfect qualities is one of the greatest proofs of the truth of his Prophethood (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The revelation of Allaah was bestowed upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Angel of Revelation, Jibreel (Gabriel), who is recognized by all the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], came to him, and when he received revelation, there were unusual effects on him that indicated the intensity of the effort involved in receiving the Message of Allaah from Jibreel, upon whom be peace. His Companions witnessed this when he received Revelation, and they believed that the revelation was something that came from an outside source and was beyond his control; it came to him from (Allaah), the Wise and Praiseworthy.
Allaah supported the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) with physical miracles, with which he challenged his people. Among the most important of these were the splitting of the moon and the Night Journey to Bayt al-Maqdis (Jerusalem). They were unable to match these miracles, and so they were a decisive, divine testimony to the truth of his Prophethood (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Allaah supported him with miracles and evidence for people of reason and understanding, the greatest of which was the Qur’aan. This was the greatest sign, which contains in its pages miracles of both style and content, which all of mankind cannot match or imitate, even if they gather together for that purpose. This is clear from the statements of the most eloquent of the Arabs, who were completely unable to match it. The Qur’aan was – and centuries later still is, praise be to Allaah – an eternal miracle as is evident in its brilliant style, its information about the Unseen, its fulfilment of the promises of Allaah, the superiority of its laws, and the fact that its rulings are appropriate for every time and place – in addition to the fact that it has such a moving impact on people’s hearts.
The Qur’aan refers to the signs and proofs surrounding the person of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which testify to his truthfulness. For example, he was free of sin and trivial spitefulness; he grew up illiterate in the Arabian Peninsula, and did not receive any religious knowledge from beyond its borders, nor did he spend time acquiring any religious knowledge. When he reached the age of forty, he brought divine knowledge that none of the earlier or later generations could produce. He also received special protection and care from Allaah, which kept him safe at times of crisis; if it were not for this protection he would most certainly have been doomed to destruction. None of this could have happened except to one who was truly sent from Allaah.
His coming was foretold in the Tawraat (Torah) and Injeel (Gospel), and some of the People of the Book saw that these prophecies applied in totality to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which led them to embrace Islam. There are still passages in the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments, in the versions that are accepted by the People of the Book, that clearly refer to the Prophethood of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – for example in the Gospel of Barnabas, which is considered by Christians to be the most authentic Gospel.
The Message of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not unique to him, but was in nature and content similar to the message brought by other Messengers before him. Allaah had sent Prophets and Messengers, such as Moosa (Moses), ‘Eesa (Jesus) and others, to the Children of Israel, and great numbers had believed in them and borne witness to the truth of their Books, which were similar in general terms to the message brought by the Qur’aan. This was eloquent testimony to the truth of the Message with which he was sent, especially as it belonged to the same type of Message to whose truth they had testified.
When Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) with the same Message as the Prophets who had come before him, the Qur’aan came to confirm their Books and their Prophethood, and to call people to believe in them. So when the People of the Book disbelieved in him and his Book, it meant that they were disbelieving in their own Books and Messengers. As the Qur’aan contained the same principles as their books, and confirmed them, this meant that it was the least likely to be fabricated or to have come from a source other than Allaah, because all of them came from Allaah, may He be exalted.
In summary, then, the proof of truthfulness is quite clear in this case. The evidence is there both in (historical) reports and on the grounds of common sense. This will cure the ill (i.e., the one who has doubts) and quench the thirst (of the one who longs for knowledge), as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… Indeed, there has come to you from Allaah a Light (prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) and a plain Book (the Qur’aan), wherewith Allaah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light, and guides them to a Straight Way” [al-Maa’idah 5:15-16].
Jibreel (peace be upon him) spoke to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) directly, with no barrier in between, and the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw him in his true form. This was reported in many aayaat (verses of the Qur’aan) and ahaadeeth (reports of the things that the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said and did).
1. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“By the star when it goes down (or vanishes).
Your companion (Muhammad) has neither gone astray nor has erred.
Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
It is only a Revelation revealed.
He has been taught (this Qur’aan) by one mighty in power [Jibreel (Gabriel)].”
[al-Najm 53:1-5]
The mufassireen (commentators on the Qur’aan) have stated that what is meant by “one mighty in power” is Jibreel (peace be upon him), who taught Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the Revelation. One of the ways in which Revelation happened is when the angel spoke directly to the Prophet. This indicates that Jibreel (peace be upon him) spoke to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This idea is also supported by the aayahs (interpretation of the meaning):
“And truly, this (the Qur’aan) is a revelation from the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists),
Which the trustworthy Rooh [Jibreel (Gabriel)] has brought down
Upon your heart (O Muhammad) that you may be (one) of the warners,
In the plain Arabic language”
[al-Shu’araa’ 26:192-195]
“Say (O Muhammad): “Whoever is an enemy to Jibreel (Gabriel) (let him die in his fury), for indeed he has brought it (this Qur’aan) down to your heart by Allaah’s Permission, confirming what came before it [i.e. the Tauraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] and guidance and glad tidings for the believers”
[al-Baqarah 2:97]
2. The First Revelation, as is well known, happened when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was in seclusion in the cave of Hiraa’. Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to him and commanded him to read. It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah the Mother of the Believers (may Allaah be pleased with her) said:
“The first of the Wahy (Revelation) that came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was seeing true dreams; he never saw any dream but it came true like the break of day. Then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go into seclusion in the cave of Hiraa’ where he would worship Allaah continuously for many nights, until he went back to see his family to collect more provisions. He would go back to Khadeejah, and take provisions with him for a similar number of nights. (This went on) until the truth came to him when he was in the cave of Hiraa’. The angels came to him and said, ‘Read!’ He said, ‘I am not a reader.’ He [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] said: he embraced me and squeezed me so hard that I almost could bear it no longer, then he released me and said, ‘Read!’ I said, I am not a reader.’ Then he embraced me a second time and squeezed me so hard that I almost could bear it no longer, then he released me and said, ‘Read!’ I said, I am not a reader.’ Then he embraced me a third time and squeezed me so hard that I almost could bear it no longer, then he released me and said, ‘Read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists). He has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood). Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous.’ [al-‘Alaq 96:1-3 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came back with (the Revelation) and with his heart pounding wildly.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 3; Muslim, no. 231).
3. It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that al-Haarith ibn Hishaam (may Allaah be pleased with him) asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “O Messenger of Allaah, how does the Revelation come to you?” The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Sometimes it comes to me like the ringing of a bell, which is the hardest of all, then it passes once I have grasped what is said. And sometimes the angel comes to me in the form of a man and speaks to me, and I grasp what he says…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2).
4. The lengthy hadeeth about Jibreel, when he came in the form of a man, a stranger, and sat down with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and asked him about Islam, Eemaan (faith) and Ihsaan (goodness, perfection). The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) answered his questions, knowing that he was Jibreel. When he had finished asking his questions and had gone away, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told his companions that this was Jibreel, who had come to teach them their religion. See Saheeh al-Bukhaari, no. 48; Muslim, no. 9.
5. The reports about the Israa’ and Mi’raaj (Prophet’s night journey from Makkah to Jerusalem, and ascent from Jerusalem into the seven heavens). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) asked Jibreel questions, and Jibreel answered him. See Saheeh al-Bukhaari, no. 2968; Muslim, no. 238, and the ahaadeeth which tell the story of the Israa’ and Mi’raaj.
6. There are also many ahaadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) says, “Jibreel came to me and said…”, such as the hadeeth in which he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to me and said, ‘Whoever among your ummah (nation) dies not associating anything with Allaah, will enter Paradise.’ I said, ‘Even if he does such and such?’ He said, ‘Yes.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2213; Muslim, no. 137)
And there is more, similar, evidence. And Allaah knows best.
Is there a Creator of this universe?
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief.
Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?”[al-Toor 52:35-37]
“Verily, the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, and the ships which sail through the sea with that which is of use to mankind, and the water (rain) which Allaah sends down from the sky and makes the earth alive therewith after its death, and the moving (living) creatures of all kinds that He has scattered therein, and in the veering of winds and clouds which are held between the sky and the earth, are indeed aayaat (proofs, evidences, signs) for people of understanding.”[al-Baqarah 2:164]
“It is He Who sends down water (rain) from the sky, and with it We bring forth vegetation of all kinds, and out of it We bring forth green stalks, from which We bring forth thick clustered grain. And out of the date-palm and its spathe come forth clusters of dates hanging low and near, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety and taste). Look at their fruits when they begin to bear, and the ripeness thereof. Verily! In these things there are signs for people who believe.”[al-An’aam 6:99]
“And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.”[al-A’raaf 7:57]
“Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?”[al-Anbiya’ 21:30]
“Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!”[al-Naml 27:60]
“He has created the heavens and the earth without any pillars that you see, and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.”[Luqmaan 31:10]
“See you not (O men) that Allaah has subjected for you whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth, and has completed and perfected His Graces upon you, (both) apparent (i.e., Islamic Monotheism, and the lawful pleasures of this world, including health, good looks, etc.) and hidden (i.e., one’s Faith in Allaah, knowledge, wisdom, guidance for doing righteous deeds, and also the pleasures and delights of the Hereafter in Paradise, etc.)? Yet of mankind in he who disputes about Allaah without knowledge or guidance or a Book giving light!”[Luqmaan 31:20]
“And the two seas (kinds of water) are not alike, this fresh, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that saltish and bitter. And from them both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments that you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.”[Faatir 35:12]
“Have you not seen how your Lord spread the shadow? If He willed, He could have made it still – then We have made the sun its guide [i.e., after the sunrise, it (the shadow) contracts and vanishes at noon, and then again appears in the afternoon with the decline of the sun, and had there been no sunlight, there would have been no shadow]
Then We withdraw it to Us – a gradual concealed withdrawal.
And it is He Who makes the night a covering for you, and the sleep (as) repose, and makes the day nushoor (i.e., getting up and going about here and there for daily work, etc., after one’s sleep at night or like resurrection after one’s death).
And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), and We send down pure water from the sky, -
That We may give life thereby to a dead land, and We give to drink thereof many of the cattle and men that We had created,”
[al-Furqaan 25:45-49]
“And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.”
[al-Furqaan 25:53]
“And a sign for them is the dead land. We gave it life, and We brought forth from it grains, so that they eat thereof.
And We have made therein gardens of date-palms and grapes, and We have caused springs of water to gush forth therein.
So that they may eat of the fruit thereof, and their hands made it not. Will they not, then, give thanks?
Glory be to Him, Who has created all the pairs of that which the earth produces, as well as of their own (human) kind (male and female), and of that which they know not.
And a sing for them is the night. We withdraw therefrom the day, and behold, they are in darkness.
And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing.
And the moon, We have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old dried curved date stalk.
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit.
And a sign for them is that We bore their offspring in the laden ship (of Nooh).
And We have created for them of the like thereunto, so on them they ride.
And if We will, We shall drown them, and there will be no shout (or helper) for them (to hear their cry for help) nor will they be saved,
Unless it be a mercy from Us, and as an enjoyment for a while.”
[Yaa-Seen 36:33-44]
“We created you, then why do you believe not?
Then tell Me (about) the human semen that you emit.
Is it you who create it (i.e., make this semen into a perfect human being), or are We the Creator?
We have decreed death unto you all, and We are not unable,
To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.
And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e., the creation of Adam). Why then do you not remember or take heed?
Tell Me! The seed that you sow in the ground.
Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?
Were it Our Will, We could crumble it to dry pieces, and you would be regretful (or left in wonderment),
(Saying), ‘We are indeed Mughramoon (i.e., ruined, or lost the money without any profit, or punished by the loss of all that we spent for cultivation, etc.)!
‘Nay, but we are deprived!’
Tell Me! The water that you drink,
Is it you who cause it from the rainclouds to come down, or are We the Causer of it to come down?
If We willed, We verily could make it salt (and undrinkable). Why then do you not give thanks (to Allaah)?
Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,
Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow, or are We the Grower?
We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire, in the Hereafter); and an article of use for the travellers (and all others, in this world).
The glorify with praises the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
So I swear by mawaaqi’ (setting to the mansions, etc.) of the stars (they traverse),
And verily, that is indeed a great oath, if you but knew,
That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur’aan).”
[al-Waaqi’ah 56:57-77]
“So glorify Allaah, when you come up to the evening [i.e., offer the Maghrib (sunset) and ‘Isha’ (night) prayers], and when you enter the morning [i.e., offer the Fajr (morning) prayers].
And His is all the praise and thanks in the heavens and the earth, and (glorify Him) in the afternoon [i.e., offer ‘Asr (mid-afternoon) prayer] and when you come up to the time when the day begins to decline [i.e., offer the Zuhr (mid-day) prayer].
He brings out the living from the dead, and brings out the dead from the living. And He revives the earth after its death, and thus shall you be brought out (resurrected).
And among His Signs is this, that He created you (Adam) from dust, and then [Hawwa (Eve) from Adam’s rib, then his offspring from the semen, and], - behold you are human beings scattered!
And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect.
And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge.
And among His Signs is the sleep that you take by night and by day, and your seeking of His Bounty. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who listen.
And among His Signs is that He shows you the lightning, by way of fear and hope, and He sends down water (rain) from the sky, and therewith revives the earth after its death. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who understand.
And among His Signs is that the heaven and the earth stand by His Command, then afterwards when He will call you by single call, behold, you will come out from the earth (i.e, from your graves, for reckoning and recompense).
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are obedient to Him.
And He it is Who originates the creation, then will repeat it (after it has perished), and this is easier for Him. His is the highest description (i.e., none has the right to be worshipped but He, and there is nothing comparable unto Him) in the heavens and in the earth. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.”[al-Room 30: 17-27]
“Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!
Is not he (better than you gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water). Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but most of them know not.
Is not He (better than your gods) Who responds to the distressed one, when He calls Him, and Who removes the evil, generations after generations. Is there any god with Allaah? Little is it that you remember!
Is not He (better than your gods) Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy (rain)? Is there any god with Allaah? High Exalted be Allaah above all that they associate as partners (to Him)!
Is not He (better than your so-called gods) Who originates creation, and shall thereafter repeat it, and Who provides for you from heaven and earth? Is there any god with Allaah? Say: ‘bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful’
Say: ‘None on the heavens and the earth knows the unseen except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.’”
[al-Naml 27:60-65]
This is a selection of clear aayaat that include the answer to question.
After this if it is satisfied that the there a Creator of this universe
It remains to be asking yourself why we created or in other words what is the purpose of life?
Allaah says
We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). (47) And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)! (48) And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect. (49) Therefor flee unto Allah; lo! I am a plain warner unto you from him. (50) And set not any other god along with Allah; lo! I am a plain warner unto you from Him. (51) Even so there came no messenger unto those before them but they said: A wizard or a madman! (52) Have they handed down (the saying) as an heirloom one unto another? Nay, but they are froward folk. (53) So withdraw from them (O Muhammad), for thou art in no wise blameworthy, (54) And warn, for warning profiteth believers. (55) I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me. (56) I seek no livelihood from them, nor do I ask that they should feed Me. (57) Lo! Allah! He it is that giveth livelihood, the Lord of unbreakable might. (58) And lo! for those who (now) do wrong there is an evil day like unto the evil day (which came for) their likes (of old); so let them not ask Me to hasten on (that day). (59) And woe unto those who disbelieve, from (that) their day which they are promised. (60)
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm Belief.
Or are with them the treasures of your Lord? Or are they the tyrants with the authority to do as they like?”[al-Toor 52:35-37]
“Verily, the creation of the heavens and the earth, and in the alternation of night and day, and the ships which sail through the sea with that which is of use to mankind, and the water (rain) which Allaah sends down from the sky and makes the earth alive therewith after its death, and the moving (living) creatures of all kinds that He has scattered therein, and in the veering of winds and clouds which are held between the sky and the earth, are indeed aayaat (proofs, evidences, signs) for people of understanding.”[al-Baqarah 2:164]
“It is He Who sends down water (rain) from the sky, and with it We bring forth vegetation of all kinds, and out of it We bring forth green stalks, from which We bring forth thick clustered grain. And out of the date-palm and its spathe come forth clusters of dates hanging low and near, and gardens of grapes, olives and pomegranates, each similar (in kind) yet different (in variety and taste). Look at their fruits when they begin to bear, and the ripeness thereof. Verily! In these things there are signs for people who believe.”[al-An’aam 6:99]
“And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.”[al-A’raaf 7:57]
“Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?”[al-Anbiya’ 21:30]
“Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!”[al-Naml 27:60]
“He has created the heavens and the earth without any pillars that you see, and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.”[Luqmaan 31:10]
“See you not (O men) that Allaah has subjected for you whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth, and has completed and perfected His Graces upon you, (both) apparent (i.e., Islamic Monotheism, and the lawful pleasures of this world, including health, good looks, etc.) and hidden (i.e., one’s Faith in Allaah, knowledge, wisdom, guidance for doing righteous deeds, and also the pleasures and delights of the Hereafter in Paradise, etc.)? Yet of mankind in he who disputes about Allaah without knowledge or guidance or a Book giving light!”[Luqmaan 31:20]
“And the two seas (kinds of water) are not alike, this fresh, sweet and pleasant to drink, and that saltish and bitter. And from them both you eat fresh tender meat (fish), and derive the ornaments that you wear. And you see the ships cleaving (the sea-water as they sail through it), that you may seek of His Bounty, and that you may give thanks.”[Faatir 35:12]
“Have you not seen how your Lord spread the shadow? If He willed, He could have made it still – then We have made the sun its guide [i.e., after the sunrise, it (the shadow) contracts and vanishes at noon, and then again appears in the afternoon with the decline of the sun, and had there been no sunlight, there would have been no shadow]
Then We withdraw it to Us – a gradual concealed withdrawal.
And it is He Who makes the night a covering for you, and the sleep (as) repose, and makes the day nushoor (i.e., getting up and going about here and there for daily work, etc., after one’s sleep at night or like resurrection after one’s death).
And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain), and We send down pure water from the sky, -
That We may give life thereby to a dead land, and We give to drink thereof many of the cattle and men that We had created,”
[al-Furqaan 25:45-49]
“And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and He has set a barrier and a complete partition between them.”
[al-Furqaan 25:53]
“And a sign for them is the dead land. We gave it life, and We brought forth from it grains, so that they eat thereof.
And We have made therein gardens of date-palms and grapes, and We have caused springs of water to gush forth therein.
So that they may eat of the fruit thereof, and their hands made it not. Will they not, then, give thanks?
Glory be to Him, Who has created all the pairs of that which the earth produces, as well as of their own (human) kind (male and female), and of that which they know not.
And a sing for them is the night. We withdraw therefrom the day, and behold, they are in darkness.
And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing.
And the moon, We have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old dried curved date stalk.
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit.
And a sign for them is that We bore their offspring in the laden ship (of Nooh).
And We have created for them of the like thereunto, so on them they ride.
And if We will, We shall drown them, and there will be no shout (or helper) for them (to hear their cry for help) nor will they be saved,
Unless it be a mercy from Us, and as an enjoyment for a while.”
[Yaa-Seen 36:33-44]
“We created you, then why do you believe not?
Then tell Me (about) the human semen that you emit.
Is it you who create it (i.e., make this semen into a perfect human being), or are We the Creator?
We have decreed death unto you all, and We are not unable,
To transfigure you and create you in (forms) that you know not.
And indeed, you have already known the first form of creation (i.e., the creation of Adam). Why then do you not remember or take heed?
Tell Me! The seed that you sow in the ground.
Is it you that make it grow, or are We the Grower?
Were it Our Will, We could crumble it to dry pieces, and you would be regretful (or left in wonderment),
(Saying), ‘We are indeed Mughramoon (i.e., ruined, or lost the money without any profit, or punished by the loss of all that we spent for cultivation, etc.)!
‘Nay, but we are deprived!’
Tell Me! The water that you drink,
Is it you who cause it from the rainclouds to come down, or are We the Causer of it to come down?
If We willed, We verily could make it salt (and undrinkable). Why then do you not give thanks (to Allaah)?
Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,
Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow, or are We the Grower?
We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire, in the Hereafter); and an article of use for the travellers (and all others, in this world).
The glorify with praises the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
So I swear by mawaaqi’ (setting to the mansions, etc.) of the stars (they traverse),
And verily, that is indeed a great oath, if you but knew,
That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Qur’aan).”
[al-Waaqi’ah 56:57-77]
“So glorify Allaah, when you come up to the evening [i.e., offer the Maghrib (sunset) and ‘Isha’ (night) prayers], and when you enter the morning [i.e., offer the Fajr (morning) prayers].
And His is all the praise and thanks in the heavens and the earth, and (glorify Him) in the afternoon [i.e., offer ‘Asr (mid-afternoon) prayer] and when you come up to the time when the day begins to decline [i.e., offer the Zuhr (mid-day) prayer].
He brings out the living from the dead, and brings out the dead from the living. And He revives the earth after its death, and thus shall you be brought out (resurrected).
And among His Signs is this, that He created you (Adam) from dust, and then [Hawwa (Eve) from Adam’s rib, then his offspring from the semen, and], - behold you are human beings scattered!
And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect.
And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge.
And among His Signs is the sleep that you take by night and by day, and your seeking of His Bounty. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who listen.
And among His Signs is that He shows you the lightning, by way of fear and hope, and He sends down water (rain) from the sky, and therewith revives the earth after its death. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who understand.
And among His Signs is that the heaven and the earth stand by His Command, then afterwards when He will call you by single call, behold, you will come out from the earth (i.e, from your graves, for reckoning and recompense).
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are obedient to Him.
And He it is Who originates the creation, then will repeat it (after it has perished), and this is easier for Him. His is the highest description (i.e., none has the right to be worshipped but He, and there is nothing comparable unto Him) in the heavens and in the earth. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.”[al-Room 30: 17-27]
“Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!
Is not he (better than you gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water). Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but most of them know not.
Is not He (better than your gods) Who responds to the distressed one, when He calls Him, and Who removes the evil, generations after generations. Is there any god with Allaah? Little is it that you remember!
Is not He (better than your gods) Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy (rain)? Is there any god with Allaah? High Exalted be Allaah above all that they associate as partners (to Him)!
Is not He (better than your so-called gods) Who originates creation, and shall thereafter repeat it, and Who provides for you from heaven and earth? Is there any god with Allaah? Say: ‘bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful’
Say: ‘None on the heavens and the earth knows the unseen except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.’”
[al-Naml 27:60-65]
This is a selection of clear aayaat that include the answer to question.
After this if it is satisfied that the there a Creator of this universe
It remains to be asking yourself why we created or in other words what is the purpose of life?
Allaah says
We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof). (47) And the earth have We laid out, how gracious is the Spreader (thereof)! (48) And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect. (49) Therefor flee unto Allah; lo! I am a plain warner unto you from him. (50) And set not any other god along with Allah; lo! I am a plain warner unto you from Him. (51) Even so there came no messenger unto those before them but they said: A wizard or a madman! (52) Have they handed down (the saying) as an heirloom one unto another? Nay, but they are froward folk. (53) So withdraw from them (O Muhammad), for thou art in no wise blameworthy, (54) And warn, for warning profiteth believers. (55) I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me. (56) I seek no livelihood from them, nor do I ask that they should feed Me. (57) Lo! Allah! He it is that giveth livelihood, the Lord of unbreakable might. (58) And lo! for those who (now) do wrong there is an evil day like unto the evil day (which came for) their likes (of old); so let them not ask Me to hasten on (that day). (59) And woe unto those who disbelieve, from (that) their day which they are promised. (60)
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 28 2009, 02:12 PM)
Why do you have such faith in your friend?
! We invite you to Islam where you'll find happiness, and recognize the Creator who created you from nothing, and leave the worship of human beings And worship the Lord of mankind, and when we invite you to Islam, we invite you to the religion of all prophets and messengers, and we invite you to a religion that is the seal of God Almighty the divine messages, and invite you to believe in Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, which marched on the road to his brothers the prophets before him, and look around the one who enters this great religion of the leaders, and politicians, scientists, thinkers, famous, to learn that they did not have to choose which is not what will convince them that right, and those are not fools, nor naive, and have no interest personal embrace of Islam, but is the conviction, and has found it as happy and delighted their hearts.
1. Said: "Robert Dickson" President of the American Bar Association: My answer to those who asked me why I became Muslim: is: Islam is the religion of monotheism, happiness, and psychological comfort, and dignified living carefree, if you stick to it and apply its teachings, the religion of divine justice.
2. He said, "Yusuf Khattab" - a convert from Judaism to Islam - when he was asked why I became Muslim? : Because Islam is the religion of monotheism, I read a lot about him, and finally convinced that it is the way to the Commission.
There are many words, and combines them that Islam is the religion of instinct, security, happiness, and wise rulings, and high moral character, and compares between Islam and other religions, distorted, or human systems and laws: it turns out will clearly see the difference, and that there is no room for comparison at all.
We ask Allaah to guide you.
! We invite you to Islam where you'll find happiness, and recognize the Creator who created you from nothing, and leave the worship of human beings And worship the Lord of mankind, and when we invite you to Islam, we invite you to the religion of all prophets and messengers, and we invite you to a religion that is the seal of God Almighty the divine messages, and invite you to believe in Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, which marched on the road to his brothers the prophets before him, and look around the one who enters this great religion of the leaders, and politicians, scientists, thinkers, famous, to learn that they did not have to choose which is not what will convince them that right, and those are not fools, nor naive, and have no interest personal embrace of Islam, but is the conviction, and has found it as happy and delighted their hearts.
1. Said: "Robert Dickson" President of the American Bar Association: My answer to those who asked me why I became Muslim: is: Islam is the religion of monotheism, happiness, and psychological comfort, and dignified living carefree, if you stick to it and apply its teachings, the religion of divine justice.
2. He said, "Yusuf Khattab" - a convert from Judaism to Islam - when he was asked why I became Muslim? : Because Islam is the religion of monotheism, I read a lot about him, and finally convinced that it is the way to the Commission.
There are many words, and combines them that Islam is the religion of instinct, security, happiness, and wise rulings, and high moral character, and compares between Islam and other religions, distorted, or human systems and laws: it turns out will clearly see the difference, and that there is no room for comparison at all.
We ask Allaah to guide you.
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 28 2009, 09:35 PM)
that Islam is the religion of instinct, security, happiness, and wise rulings, and high moral character,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...s-released.html
QUOTE
But in another conversation with one of the gunman, the Pakistani controller gave detailed instructions on how apparently Nurma and another woman should be killed: "Stand her up on this side of the door. Shoot her in such a way that the bullet goes right through her head and out the other side. The bullet should not get stuck in her body Do it, I'm listening," he hectored his gunman in Nariman House, where six, including the Rabbi of a Jewish charity and his wife were killed. "One is done?" he demanded, and his gunman replied: "Both are finished." Mrs Rabinovich had been staying at Mumbai's Chabad Lubavitch charity where she was planning to complete her emigration to Israel the following week.
Is this your *** wise rulings and high moral character? You may have had a good man in Saladin but your religion hasn't done anything to help people since then.
Black Sudan was starving, did Islam feed them? No. Islam killed them.
And YOU and other Muslim countries didn't do a damn thing to stop it.
"Security, happiness, wise ruling?"
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 29 2009, 01:35 AM)
! We invite you to Islam where you'll find happiness, and recognize the Creator who created you from nothing, and leave the worship of human beings And worship the Lord of mankind, and when we invite you to Islam, we invite you to the religion of all prophets and messengers, and we invite you to a religion that is the seal of God Almighty the divine messages, and invite you to believe in Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, which marched on the road to his brothers the prophets before him, and look around the one who enters this great religion of the leaders, and politicians, scientists, thinkers, famous, to learn that they did not have to choose which is not what will convince them that right, and those are not fools, nor naive, and have no interest personal embrace of Islam, but is the conviction, and has found it as happy and delighted their hearts.
1. Said: "Robert Dickson" President of the American Bar Association: My answer to those who asked me why I became Muslim: is: Islam is the religion of monotheism, happiness, and psychological comfort, and dignified living carefree, if you stick to it and apply its teachings, the religion of divine justice.
2. He said, "Yusuf Khattab" - a convert from Judaism to Islam - when he was asked why I became Muslim? : Because Islam is the religion of monotheism, I read a lot about him, and finally convinced that it is the way to the Commission.
There are many words, and combines them that Islam is the religion of instinct, security, happiness, and wise rulings, and high moral character, and compares between Islam and other religions, distorted, or human systems and laws: it turns out will clearly see the difference, and that there is no room for comparison at all.
We ask Allaah to guide you.
You didn't answer the questions.
Why do you have faith in your friend?
Why did you not turn to Allah or the Koran to answer my questions?
All you did was give me more questions
Why is it relevant that I can find happiness?
Why ask Allah to guide me?
He doesn't seem to do a consistent job with people who are already Muslim.
A lot of follower of his religion of peace turn to violence.
Why does he not guide them to peaceful action?
Or if he's warlike, why does he guide some followers to peace?
Is he inconsistent or is not guiding all Muslims?
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 29 2009, 01:32 AM)
Is there a Creator of this universe?
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Was Allah created by nothing?
We are not so great as Allah is claimed to be.
So if could not have come from nothing, how could Allah?
If I showed you a baby camel and an ordinary sewing needle and said that the camel passed through the eye of the needle, would you say that's not possible it much have been the camel's father that passed through the eye of the needle?
I doubt it, but you use the exact same argument with our existence.
You say we could not have come from nothing but yet say something greater came from nothing.
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you, you will have no choice but to follow it.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Was Allah created by nothing?
We are not so great as Allah is claimed to be.
So if could not have come from nothing, how could Allah?
If I showed you a baby camel and an ordinary sewing needle and said that the camel passed through the eye of the needle, would you say that's not possible it much have been the camel's father that passed through the eye of the needle?
I doubt it, but you use the exact same argument with our existence.
You say we could not have come from nothing but yet say something greater came from nothing.
American terrorism
http://aboutterror.net/img/3183539__413358...1031-185345.jpg
http://www.vietnampix.com/bilder/fire6g.jpg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/PageMill...o_arms_Iraq.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/post-18460-1158442066.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/post-18460-1158441367.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/107.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/sheshni.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/headt.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/from-alwat...a.1607.pol..jpg
http://www.qaradawi.net/mritems/images/200...2_1757_1_15.jpg
American Freedom
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/20...545315_1_34.jpg
http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqfreedom/images/13_gif.jpg
U.S. human rights
http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqfreedom/images/0_jpg.jpg
Israeli terrorism
http://www.ibtesama.com/vb/imgcache2/6529.gif
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/20...627067_1_34.jpg
http://www.akhbaruna.net/ar/DataFiles%5CCa...pal_350_350.jpg
http://g.abunawaf.com/2009/1/15/gaza.jpg
http://www.palestine-info.info/Ar/DataFile...8/mar/1/a_1.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc...430949_5323.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3_UMHe50Zec/SV9K...D8%B2%D8%A9.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/sounds/3428.jpg
Killing children, women and men
And raping children, women and men
((( This is what America has done in Iraq and Afghanistan And Israel is doing in Palestine and Lebanon )))
Is this civilization
Is this democracy
is this alleged freedom
What did your country "rogue" against nations and peoples of the world, but put up such a question wherever it has knowledge and expertise, including from the plots woven around drain his pocket to pay the taxes to go up at the end of the pockets of the leaders of the ruling gang?! .
If you want to know the liquid U.S. crimes your government Feltqro book "What Uncle Sam wants?", And I assure this is not the book to a Muslim man, and the Center for Studies in the Arab country, nor to organize a political party not a jihadist, it is a Jewish man! U.S.! The name "Noam Chomsky".
Here's an excerpt from this book:
1. Author said: "I think from the legal point of view: that there is enough evidence to charge all American presidents since the end of World War II as war criminals! Or at least: seriously involved in war crimes."
2. He says: "The United States eliminated its indigenous population - Indians - through the centuries, and swept half of Mexico, intervened violently in the region, and occupied Hawaii, Vietnam, and over the last fifty years to resort to force in all parts of the world - almost -".
Do you want to know more about the crimes of the ruling administration of your country? Well, will not refer you to our sources, and one of the sources of your enemies, but the author Snahilk another U.S.! Do you know what the name of the book that exposed the country, and show corruption and corrupted in the world? Named "Rogue State"! The author: American named "William Blum".
Here's an excerpt from this book:
1. -Author on the cover of the recent book: "The book, which does not want you to be strong Tqrooh!" .
2. He says in the introduction: "If I were president: I, I would halt the early days of the terrorist operations against the United States: Firstly, I will present my apologies to all the widows, orphans, and persons who have been tortured, and those who have had their share of poverty, and millions of other victims of American imperialism, then I will in all four sides to the world that the American intervention in the countries of the world has ended once and for all, and I will tell, "Israel" as the state has never promised to one session of the United States, but just a foreign country, then: Soqls of the military budget by at least 90%, turning the excess compensation to the victims, and would be above the efficiency, the annual military budget is estimated at $ 330 billion means more than 18000 dollars per hour since the birth of Christ to today! This is what I do in the first three days, On the fourth day: going to be murder " .
done your country, which was documented in this book, Vicvic be traced him to read, then perhaps you doing to change and change perceptions of the world.
Was made in a documentary version of the BBC! Entitled "an elusive peace, Israel and the Arabs," citing those who heard your president: "President Bush told us all that it is entrusted with the task of the Lord! And that God told him to fight those terrorists in Afghanistan!" .
He said: "We have done so, then God would tell me: Hey George! Go and end the tyranny in Iraq, I have done that."
2. He said, "Albert Beveridj" representative of the mandate of the "Indiana" in the U.S. Senate: "God has made us teachers the world! So that we can deploy the system where chaos, and make us worthy of governance so that we can from the Department of Berber peoples aging, and without such a force would be extended to the world again barbarism and darkness, God has chosen the American people, but no other races as a people selected! lead the world to replenish itself. "
Perhaps your leaders also claim that the Lord is the one who ordered them to imprisonment, torture or rape and the looting of human rights of those who are in the grip of the "Army of the Lord"! Is it acceptable for the Lord for the acts of those?
Sincerely invite you to ponder the reality of what you are anyway, and how the media has lied to you to inform you, and fools you, and how it filled the hearts of hatred and malice and terror
http://aboutterror.net/img/3183539__413358...1031-185345.jpg
http://www.vietnampix.com/bilder/fire6g.jpg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/PageMill...o_arms_Iraq.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/post-18460-1158442066.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/post-18460-1158441367.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/107.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/sheshni.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/headt.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/photos/from-alwat...a.1607.pol..jpg
http://www.qaradawi.net/mritems/images/200...2_1757_1_15.jpg
American Freedom
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/20...545315_1_34.jpg
http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqfreedom/images/13_gif.jpg
U.S. human rights
http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqfreedom/images/0_jpg.jpg
Israeli terrorism
http://www.ibtesama.com/vb/imgcache2/6529.gif
http://www.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/20...627067_1_34.jpg
http://www.akhbaruna.net/ar/DataFiles%5CCa...pal_350_350.jpg
http://g.abunawaf.com/2009/1/15/gaza.jpg
http://www.palestine-info.info/Ar/DataFile...8/mar/1/a_1.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc...430949_5323.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3_UMHe50Zec/SV9K...D8%B2%D8%A9.jpg
http://www.awda-dawa.com/sounds/3428.jpg
Killing children, women and men
And raping children, women and men
((( This is what America has done in Iraq and Afghanistan And Israel is doing in Palestine and Lebanon )))
Is this civilization
Is this democracy
is this alleged freedom
What did your country "rogue" against nations and peoples of the world, but put up such a question wherever it has knowledge and expertise, including from the plots woven around drain his pocket to pay the taxes to go up at the end of the pockets of the leaders of the ruling gang?! .
If you want to know the liquid U.S. crimes your government Feltqro book "What Uncle Sam wants?", And I assure this is not the book to a Muslim man, and the Center for Studies in the Arab country, nor to organize a political party not a jihadist, it is a Jewish man! U.S.! The name "Noam Chomsky".
Here's an excerpt from this book:
1. Author said: "I think from the legal point of view: that there is enough evidence to charge all American presidents since the end of World War II as war criminals! Or at least: seriously involved in war crimes."
2. He says: "The United States eliminated its indigenous population - Indians - through the centuries, and swept half of Mexico, intervened violently in the region, and occupied Hawaii, Vietnam, and over the last fifty years to resort to force in all parts of the world - almost -".
Do you want to know more about the crimes of the ruling administration of your country? Well, will not refer you to our sources, and one of the sources of your enemies, but the author Snahilk another U.S.! Do you know what the name of the book that exposed the country, and show corruption and corrupted in the world? Named "Rogue State"! The author: American named "William Blum".
Here's an excerpt from this book:
1. -Author on the cover of the recent book: "The book, which does not want you to be strong Tqrooh!" .
2. He says in the introduction: "If I were president: I, I would halt the early days of the terrorist operations against the United States: Firstly, I will present my apologies to all the widows, orphans, and persons who have been tortured, and those who have had their share of poverty, and millions of other victims of American imperialism, then I will in all four sides to the world that the American intervention in the countries of the world has ended once and for all, and I will tell, "Israel" as the state has never promised to one session of the United States, but just a foreign country, then: Soqls of the military budget by at least 90%, turning the excess compensation to the victims, and would be above the efficiency, the annual military budget is estimated at $ 330 billion means more than 18000 dollars per hour since the birth of Christ to today! This is what I do in the first three days, On the fourth day: going to be murder " .
done your country, which was documented in this book, Vicvic be traced him to read, then perhaps you doing to change and change perceptions of the world.
Was made in a documentary version of the BBC! Entitled "an elusive peace, Israel and the Arabs," citing those who heard your president: "President Bush told us all that it is entrusted with the task of the Lord! And that God told him to fight those terrorists in Afghanistan!" .
He said: "We have done so, then God would tell me: Hey George! Go and end the tyranny in Iraq, I have done that."
2. He said, "Albert Beveridj" representative of the mandate of the "Indiana" in the U.S. Senate: "God has made us teachers the world! So that we can deploy the system where chaos, and make us worthy of governance so that we can from the Department of Berber peoples aging, and without such a force would be extended to the world again barbarism and darkness, God has chosen the American people, but no other races as a people selected! lead the world to replenish itself. "
Perhaps your leaders also claim that the Lord is the one who ordered them to imprisonment, torture or rape and the looting of human rights of those who are in the grip of the "Army of the Lord"! Is it acceptable for the Lord for the acts of those?
Sincerely invite you to ponder the reality of what you are anyway, and how the media has lied to you to inform you, and fools you, and how it filled the hearts of hatred and malice and terror
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 29 2009, 02:49 AM)
You didn't answer the questions.
On the contrary, I have answered all your questions
But these questions did not understand
On the contrary, I have answered all your questions
But these questions did not understand
Please clarify the intent of this question
You gave answers but they were not answers to my questions.
What makes you think your friend is accurate in what he says?
I'm sure he's sincere but how do you know he's right?
Why did you not have Allah tell me the anwers?
Or have him tell you then you pass them on to me.
So how do you know your friend gives correct answers.
And why do you not get those answers directly from Allah?
On the contrary, I have answered all your questions
But these questions did not understand
Please clarify the intent of this question
Your religion is spread by the sword - what do you say to that? Isaac was chosen over Ishmael.
On the contrary, I have answered all your questions
But these questions did not understand
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 29 2009, 02:49 AM)
Why do you have faith in your friend?
Why did you not turn to Allah or the Koran to answer my questions?
Please clarify the intent of this question
Why did you not turn to Allah or the Koran to answer my questions?
Please clarify the intent of this question
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 29 2009, 07:14 PM)
On the contrary, I have answered all your questions
But these questions did not understand
Please clarify the intent of this question
You gave answers but they were not answers to my questions.
What makes you think your friend is accurate in what he says?
I'm sure he's sincere but how do you know he's right?
Why did you not have Allah tell me the anwers?
Or have him tell you then you pass them on to me.
So how do you know your friend gives correct answers.
And why do you not get those answers directly from Allah?
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 29 2009, 07:14 PM)
On the contrary, I have answered all your questions
But these questions did not understand
Please clarify the intent of this question
Your religion is spread by the sword - what do you say to that? Isaac was chosen over Ishmael.
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 29 2009, 03:09 PM)
American terrorism
That's a selective list of pictures. You left out pictures of what started that movie. Oh, I know why you did, because the women and children were vaporized in those three airplanes.
You don't seem to get it. No matter what religion, Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, that slaughters in the name of it's god is a curse on the world. The "happiness" that yours offers, does it include shouting God is great while the slaughter happens?
That's a selective list of pictures. You left out pictures of what started that movie. Oh, I know why you did, because the women and children were vaporized in those three airplanes.
You don't seem to get it. No matter what religion, Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, that slaughters in the name of it's god is a curse on the world. The "happiness" that yours offers, does it include shouting God is great while the slaughter happens?
QUOTE (TracerTong+Nov 29 2009, 07:32 PM)
Your religion is spread by the sword - what do you say to that? Isaac was chosen over Ishmael.
I say their religion is a few hundred years younger than yours.
What was yours doing at the same age?
And Christianity says Issac because Ishmael not being the son of Abraham's first wife is not recognized as his oldest son in Christianity.
I say their religion is a few hundred years younger than yours.
What was yours doing at the same age?
And Christianity says Issac because Ishmael not being the son of Abraham's first wife is not recognized as his oldest son in Christianity.
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 30 2009, 07:17 AM)
And Christianity says Issac because Ishmael not being the son of Abraham's first wife is not recognized as his oldest son in Christianity.
I don't recall that in any Christian doctrine.
I don't recall that in any Christian doctrine.
QUOTE (pnelson419+Nov 30 2009, 12:52 PM)
I don't recall that in any Christian doctrine.
They simply don't recognize the older brother's existance at all from what I've seen.
Hopefully RobDG can add some historical perpective.
They simply don't recognize the older brother's existance at all from what I've seen.
Hopefully RobDG can add some historical perpective.
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 29 2009, 07:30 PM)
Why did you not have Allah tell me the anwers?
Or have him tell you then you pass them on to me.
And why do you not get those answers directly from Allah?
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you,
Allaah says:
And those who have no knowledge say: Why doth not Allah speak unto us, or some sign come unto us? Even thus, as they now speak, spake those (who were) before them. Their hearts are all alike. We have made clear the revelations for people who are sure. (118) Lo! We have sent thee (O Muhammad) with the truth, a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire. (119)
Allaah says:
Ash-Shura
And it was not (vouchsafed) to any mortal that Allah should speak to him unless (it be) by revelation or from behind a veil, or (that) He sendeth a messenger to reveal what He will by His leave. Lo! He is Exalted, Wise. (51) And thus have We inspired in thee (Muhammad) a Spirit of Our command. Thou knewest not what the Scripture was, nor what the Faith. But We have made it a light whereby We guide whom We will of Our bondmen. And lo! thou verily dost guide unto a right path, (52) The path of Allah, unto Whom belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Do not all things reach Allah at last. (53)
Allaah says:
Al-Hijr
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Alif. Lam. Ra. These are verses of the Scripture and a plain Reading. (1) It may be that those who disbelieve wish ardently that they were Muslims. (2) Let them eat and enjoy life, and let (false) hope beguile them. They will come to know! (3) And We destroyed no township but there was a known decree for it. (4) No nation can outstrip its term nor can they lag behind. (5) And they say: O thou unto whom the Reminder is revealed, lo! thou art indeed a madman! (6) Why bringest thou not angels unto us, if thou art of the truthful? (7) We send not down the angels save with the Fact, and in that case (the disbelievers) would not be tolerated. (8) Lo! We, even We, reveal the Reminder, and lo! We verily are its Guardian. (9) We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old. (10) And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. (11) Thus do We make it traverse the hearts of the guilty: (12) They believe not therein, though the example of the men of old hath gone before. (13) And even if We opened unto them a Gate of heaven and they kept mounting through it, (14) They would say: Our sight is wrong - nay, but we are folk bewitched. (15)
Allaah says:
Al-Anaam
Lest ye should say: The Scripture was revealed only to two sects before us, and we in sooth were unaware of what they read; (156) Or lest ye should say: If the Scripture had been revealed unto us, we surely had been better guided than are they. Now hath there come unto you a clear proof from your Lord, a guidance and mercy; and who doeth greater wrong than he who denieth the revelations of Allah, and turneth away from them? We award unto those who turn away from Our revelations an evil doom because of their aversion. (157) Wait they, indeed, for nothing less than that the angels should come unto them, or thy Lord should come, or there should come one of the portents from thy Lord? In the day when one of the portents from thy Lord cometh, its belief availeth naught a soul which theretofore believed not, nor in its belief earned good (by works). Say: Wait ye! Lo! We (too) are waiting. (158)
Allaah says:
Al-Isra
And they say: We will not put faith in thee till thou cause a spring to gush forth from the earth for us; (90) Or thou have a garden of date-palms and grapes, and cause rivers to gush forth therein abundantly; (91) Or thou cause the heaven to fall upon us piecemeal, as thou hast pretended, or bring Allah and the angels as a warrant; (92) Or thou have a house of gold; or thou ascend up into heaven, and even then we will put no faith in thine ascension till thou bring down for us a book that we can read. Say (O Muhammad): My Lord be glorified! Am I aught save a mortal messenger? (93) And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger? (94) Say: If there were in the earth angels walking secure, We had sent down for them from heaven an angel as messenger. (95) Say: Allah sufficeth for a witness between me and you. Lo! He is Knower, Seer of His slaves. (96) And he whom Allah guideth, he is led aright; while, as for him whom He sendeth astray, for them thou wilt find no protecting friends beside Him, and We shall assemble them on the Day of Resurrection on their faces, blind, dumb and deaf; their habitation will be hell; whenever it abateth, We increase the flame for them. (97) That is their reward because they disbelieved Our revelations and said: When we are bones and fragments shall we, forsooth, be raised up as a new creation? (98) Have they not seen that Allah Who created the heavens and the earth is Able to create the like of them, and hath appointed for them an end whereof there is no doubt? But the wrong-doers refuse aught save disbelief. (99)
Or have him tell you then you pass them on to me.
And why do you not get those answers directly from Allah?
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you,
Allaah says:
And those who have no knowledge say: Why doth not Allah speak unto us, or some sign come unto us? Even thus, as they now speak, spake those (who were) before them. Their hearts are all alike. We have made clear the revelations for people who are sure. (118) Lo! We have sent thee (O Muhammad) with the truth, a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire. (119)
Allaah says:
Ash-Shura
And it was not (vouchsafed) to any mortal that Allah should speak to him unless (it be) by revelation or from behind a veil, or (that) He sendeth a messenger to reveal what He will by His leave. Lo! He is Exalted, Wise. (51) And thus have We inspired in thee (Muhammad) a Spirit of Our command. Thou knewest not what the Scripture was, nor what the Faith. But We have made it a light whereby We guide whom We will of Our bondmen. And lo! thou verily dost guide unto a right path, (52) The path of Allah, unto Whom belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Do not all things reach Allah at last. (53)
Allaah says:
Al-Hijr
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Alif. Lam. Ra. These are verses of the Scripture and a plain Reading. (1) It may be that those who disbelieve wish ardently that they were Muslims. (2) Let them eat and enjoy life, and let (false) hope beguile them. They will come to know! (3) And We destroyed no township but there was a known decree for it. (4) No nation can outstrip its term nor can they lag behind. (5) And they say: O thou unto whom the Reminder is revealed, lo! thou art indeed a madman! (6) Why bringest thou not angels unto us, if thou art of the truthful? (7) We send not down the angels save with the Fact, and in that case (the disbelievers) would not be tolerated. (8) Lo! We, even We, reveal the Reminder, and lo! We verily are its Guardian. (9) We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old. (10) And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. (11) Thus do We make it traverse the hearts of the guilty: (12) They believe not therein, though the example of the men of old hath gone before. (13) And even if We opened unto them a Gate of heaven and they kept mounting through it, (14) They would say: Our sight is wrong - nay, but we are folk bewitched. (15)
Allaah says:
Al-Anaam
Lest ye should say: The Scripture was revealed only to two sects before us, and we in sooth were unaware of what they read; (156) Or lest ye should say: If the Scripture had been revealed unto us, we surely had been better guided than are they. Now hath there come unto you a clear proof from your Lord, a guidance and mercy; and who doeth greater wrong than he who denieth the revelations of Allah, and turneth away from them? We award unto those who turn away from Our revelations an evil doom because of their aversion. (157) Wait they, indeed, for nothing less than that the angels should come unto them, or thy Lord should come, or there should come one of the portents from thy Lord? In the day when one of the portents from thy Lord cometh, its belief availeth naught a soul which theretofore believed not, nor in its belief earned good (by works). Say: Wait ye! Lo! We (too) are waiting. (158)
Allaah says:
Al-Isra
And they say: We will not put faith in thee till thou cause a spring to gush forth from the earth for us; (90) Or thou have a garden of date-palms and grapes, and cause rivers to gush forth therein abundantly; (91) Or thou cause the heaven to fall upon us piecemeal, as thou hast pretended, or bring Allah and the angels as a warrant; (92) Or thou have a house of gold; or thou ascend up into heaven, and even then we will put no faith in thine ascension till thou bring down for us a book that we can read. Say (O Muhammad): My Lord be glorified! Am I aught save a mortal messenger? (93) And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger? (94) Say: If there were in the earth angels walking secure, We had sent down for them from heaven an angel as messenger. (95) Say: Allah sufficeth for a witness between me and you. Lo! He is Knower, Seer of His slaves. (96) And he whom Allah guideth, he is led aright; while, as for him whom He sendeth astray, for them thou wilt find no protecting friends beside Him, and We shall assemble them on the Day of Resurrection on their faces, blind, dumb and deaf; their habitation will be hell; whenever it abateth, We increase the flame for them. (97) That is their reward because they disbelieved Our revelations and said: When we are bones and fragments shall we, forsooth, be raised up as a new creation? (98) Have they not seen that Allah Who created the heavens and the earth is Able to create the like of them, and hath appointed for them an end whereof there is no doubt? But the wrong-doers refuse aught save disbelief. (99)
QUOTE (buttershug+Nov 29 2009, 07:30 PM)
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What makes you think your friend is accurate in what he says?
I'm sure he's sincere but how do you know he's right?
So how do you know your friend gives correct answers.
Did you mean friend of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
I'll answer you mean
friend = Muhammad peace be upon him
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Muhammad’s Claim to Prophethood
(Part 1 of 3):
Proofs of his Prophethood
Divine facilitation is proportionate to human need. God makes acquisition
easier as the need of humans increase. Air, water, and sunlight are necessary
for human survival, and thus God has granted their acquisition to all
without hardship. The greatest human need is to know the Creator, and
thus, God has made it easy to know Him. The evidence for God, however,
differs in its nature. In its own way, everything in creation is evidence of
its Creator. Some evidence is so obvious that any lay person can immediately
‘see’ the Creator, for instance, the cycle of life and death. Others
‘see’ the handiwork of the Creator in the elegance of mathematical theorems,
universal constants of physics, and the development of the embryo:
“Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation
of night and day, - there are indeed signs for men of understanding.” (Quran
3:190)
Like the existence of God, human beings need evidence to establish the
truth of prophets who spoke in His
name. Muhammad, like the prophets
before him, claimed to be God’s final
prophet to humanity. Naturally, the
evidence for his veracity is diverse
and numerous. Some are obvious,
while others are apparent only after
deep reflection.
God says in the Quran:
“…Is it not enough (for them to know) that your Lord is witness unto everything?”
(Quran 41:53)
Divine witness by itself is sufficient without any other evidence. God’s
witness for Muhammad lies in:
(a) God’s past revelations to earlier prophets which prophesize Muhammad’s
appearance.
( b ) God’s Acts: the miracles and ‘signs’ He gave to support Muhammad’s
claim.
How did it all begin in the early days of Islam? How were the first believers
convinced he was God’s prophet?
The first person to believe in the Prophethood of Muhammad was his own
wife, Khadija. When he returned home trembling out of fear after receiving
divine revelation, she was his solace:
“Never! By God, God will never disgrace you. You keep good relations
with your relatives, help the poor, serve your guests generously, and assist
those hit with calamities.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
She saw in her husband a man God would not humiliate, because of his
virtues of honesty, justice, and helping the poor.
His closest friend, Abu Bakr who had known him all his life and was almost
the same age, believed the moment he heard the words, ‘I am God’s
Messenger’ without any additional confirmation other than the open book
of his friend’s life.
Another person who accepted his call on merely listening to it, was
‘Amr’1He says:
“I used to think before Islam that people were in error and they were on
nothing. They worshipped idols. In the meantime, I heard of a man preaching
in Mecca; so I went to him…I asked him: ‘Who are you?’ He said: ‘I
am a Prophet.’ I again said: ‘Who is a Prophet?’ He said: ‘God sent me.’ I
said: ‘What did He send you with?’ He said: ‘I have been sent to join ties
of relationship, to break the idols, and to proclaim the unity of God so
nothing is associated with Him (in worship).’ I said: ‘Who is with you in
this?’ He said: ‘A free man and a slave (referring to Abu Bakr and Bilal, a
slave, who had embraced Islam by that time).’ I said: ‘I intend to follow
you.’” (Saheeh Muslim)
Dimad was a desert healer who specialized in mental illnesses. On his visit
to Mecca he heard the Meccans say that Muhammad (may the blessing and
mercy of God be upon him) was insane! Confident of his skills, he said to
himself, ‘If I were to come across this man, God might cure him at my
hand.’ Dimad met the Prophet and said: ‘Muhammad, I can protect (one)
who suffers from mental illness or under sorcery, and God cures one
whom He so desires at my hand. Do you desire to be cured?’ The Prophet
of God responded, starting with his usual introduction to his sermons:
1 Amr b. Abasa Sulami.
“Indeed, praise and gratitude is for God. We praise Him and ask for His
help. He who God guides, none can lead astray, and he who is led astray
cannot be guided. I bear witness no one deserves worship but God, He is
One, has no partners, and Muhammad is His Servant and Messenger.”
Dimad, stuck by the beauty of the words, asked him to repeat them, and
said, ‘I have heard the words of diviners, sorcerers, and poets, but I have
never heard such words, they reach the depth of the oceans. Give me your
hand so I may pledge my allegiance to you on Islam.’1
After Gabriel brought the first revelation to Prophet Muhammad, Khadija,
his wife, took him to visit her old cousin, Waraqa bin Nawfal, a biblical
scholar, to discuss the event. Waraqa recognized Muhammad from the
prophecies of the Bible and confirmed:
“This is the Keeper of Secrets (Angel Gabriel) who came to Moses.” (Saheeh
Al-Bukhari)
The face can be a window to the soul. Abdullah bin Salam, the chief rabbi
of Medina at the time, looked at the face of the Prophet when he arrived in
Medina, and exclaimed:
“The moment I looked at his face, I knew it was not the face of a liar!”
(Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
Many of those around the Prophet who did not accept Islam did not doubt
in his veracity, but refused to do so for other reasons. His uncle, Abu Talib,
aided him throughout his life, confessed to the truthfulness of Muhammad,
but refused to break off from the religion of his ancestors out of
shame and social status.
1 Saheeh Muslim.
Muhammad’s Claim to Prophethood (Part
2 of 3):
Was he a liar?
A Logical Analysis of His Claim
As discussed earlier, Muhammad made the claim, ‘I am God’s Messenger.’
Either he was true in his claim or he was not. We will begin by the
assuming the latter and investigate all possibilities raised by skeptics of
past and present, discussing some of their misconceptions. Only if all other
possibilities are exhausted can one reasonably claim that the only possibility
left is that he was true in what he claimed. We will also look at what
the Quran has to say on the matter.
Was He a Liar?
Is it possible for a liar to claim for a period of 23 years with unwavering
certitude that he is a prophet like Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, that there
will be no more prophets after him, and that the scripture he has been sent
with will remain his lasting miracle till the end of time?
A liar will falter sometimes, perhaps with a friend, maybe with his family
members, somewhere he will make a mistake. His message, delivered over
two decades, will contradict itself sometimes. But what we see in reality is
that the scripture he brought declares freedom from internal inconsistencies,
his message remained consistent throughout his mission and even in
the midst of a battle, he proclaimed his Prophethood!1
His life story is preserved book open for everyone to read. Before Islam,
he was well-known to his own people to be trustworthy and reliable, an
honest man, a person of integrity, who did not lie.2 It was due to this reason
they named him “Al-Ameen”, or “The Trustworthy” He was strongly
opposed to lying and warned against it. Is it possible for him to tell a
consistent lie for 23 years, a lie so monstrous that it would make him a
social outcast, when he was never known to have lied even once about
anything? It’s simply against the psychology of liars.
If one was to ask why a person would make claim to Prophethood and lie,
their answer might be one of two:
1) Fame, Glory, wealth and status.
1 Saheeh Al-Bukhari
2 ‘Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources’ by Martin Lings, p. 34.
2) Moral progress.
If we were to say that the Muhammad claimed prophethood for fame glory
and status, we would see that what actually occurred was the exact opposite.
Muhammad, before his claim to Prophethood, enjoyed a high status
in all aspects” He was of the most noble of tribes, of the most noble of
families, and was known for his truthfulness. After his claim, he became a
social outcast. For 13 years in Makkah, he and his followers faced excruciating
torture, which led to the death of some of his followers, ridicule,
sanctioning, and excommunication from society.
There were many other ways which a person could gain fame in the society
of that time, mainly from valor, and poetry. If Muhammad had made the
claim that he himself authored the Quran, as will be explained later, that
would have been enough for his name and poetry to be engraved in gold
and hung inside the Ka’bah for eternity, people from all over the world
hallowing him. Rather, he proclaimed that he was not the author of his
revelation, and that it was from the One high above, causing him to be
ridiculed in his time until ours.
The Prophet was the husband of a wealthy tradeswoman, and he enjoyed
the comforts of life available to him at his time. But after his claim of prophethood,
he became of the poorest of people. Days passed without stove
fire being lit in his house, and at one time, hunger drove him to the mosque
in hope of some provision. The leaders of Makkah in his time offered him
the riches of the world in order for him to leave his message. As a response
to their offer, he recited the verses of the Quran 41:1-38.11. The
Following are some of these verses:
“(As for) those who say: ‘Our Lord is God,’ and, further, stand straight
and steadfast, the angels descend upon them, saying: ‘Fear not, nor be
grieved, and receive good news of the garden which you were promised.
We are your guardians in this world's life and in the hereafter, and you
shall have therein what your souls desire and you shall have therein what
you ask for. A hospitable gift from one Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful!’
And who is better in speech than one who calls to God, works righteousness,
and says, ‘I am of those who have submitted in Islam?’ Nor can
goodness and evil be equal. Repel (evil) with what is better: Then will he
between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate.
And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exer4
cise patience and self-restraint, - none but persons of the greatest good
fortune.” (Quran 41:30-35)
If one were to say that Muhammad lied and claimed prophethood in order
to bring moral and religious reform to a society ridden with ills, this argument
is futile in itself, for how can one bring moral reform through a lie.
If Muhammad was so keen to uphold and preach upright morals and worship
of One God, then could he have lied himself in doing so? If we say
that this is not possible, the only answer is that he was speaking the truth.
The only other possibility is that he was insane.
Muhammad’s Claim to Prophethood
(part 3 of 3):
Was He Insane, a Poet, or a Sorcerer?
Was He Insane?
Someone who has dealt with mentally ill knows people can be identified by their symptoms. Muhammad displayed no symptom of insanity at any time in his life No friend, wife, or family member suspected or abandoned him due to insanity. As for the effects of revelations on the Prophet, such as perspiration and the likes, it was due to the intensity of the Message which he had to bear and not due to any epileptic fit or instance of insanity...
Quite to the contrary, Muhammad preached for a long time and brought a Law unknown in its completeness and sophistication to ancient Arabs. If the prophet was insane, it would have been obvious to those around him at one point in a period of twenty three years. When in history did an insane man preach his message to worship One God for ten years, three of which he and his followers spent in exile, and eventually became the ruler of his lands? Which insane man has ever won the hearts and minds of people who met him and earned the respect of his adversaries?
More so, his closest companions, Abu Bakr and Umar were recognized for their abilities, nobility, skills, and finesse. They were willing to sacrifice anything for the religion he brought. On one occasion, Abu Bakr, brought all his material possessions to Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, and when asked what he left for his family, responded, ‘I left for them God and His Messenger!’
Abu Bakr, a merchant by profession, after being elected the ruler of all of Arabs after Muhammad, spent a mere two dirham on himself and his family!
Umar became the ruler of Arabia after Abu Bakr and conquered Syria, Egypt, and subdued the Persian and Roman Empires. He was a man known for his scrupulous justice. How can someone suggest these people were following a mentally deranged individual?
God suggests: stand before God without bias or pre-conceived beliefs, and discuss it with another person or think about it yourself, this prophet has no madness, he is as stable today as you had known him for forty years.
“Say: ‘I counsel you one thing only: Be (ever conscious of) standing before God, whether you are in the company of others or alone; and then bethink yourselves (that) there is no madness in (this prophet,) your fellow-man: he is only a warner to you of suffering severe to come.’” (Quran 34:46)
The Meccans of old rejected his call out of tribal partisanship, and they were not truthful in their accusations of his insanity. Even today, many people refuse to accept Muhammad as a prophet simply because he was an Arab and self-gratify themselves by saying he must have been insane or worked for the devil. Their hatred for Arabs translates into their rejection of Muhammad, even though God says:
“Nay, but he (whom you call a mad poet) has brought the truth; and he confirms the truth of (what the earlier of God’s) message-bearers (have taught).” (Quran 37:37)
Although the pagan Arabs knew Muhammad all too well, but they still through accusations of insanity at him, for they considered his religion a sacrilege against the tradition of their forefathers.
“And when our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, they say, ‘This is not but a man who wishes to avert you from that which your fathers were worshipping.’ And they say, ‘This is not except a lie invented.’ And those who disbelieve say of the truth when it has come to them, ‘This is not but obvious magic.’ And We had not given them any scriptures which they could study, and We had not sent to them before you, (O Muhammad), any warner. And those before them denied, and they (the people of Mecca) have not attained a tenth of what We had given them. But they (i.e., the former peoples) denied My messengers, so how (terrible) was My reproach.” (Quran 34:43-45)
Was He A Poet?
God mentions their accusation in the Quran and responds to it:
“Or do they say (of you), ‘A poet for whom we await a misfortune of time?’ Say, ‘Wait, for indeed I am, with you, among the waiters.’ Or do their minds command them to (say) this, or are they a transgressing people? Or do they say, ‘He has made it up?’ Rather, they do not believe.” (Quran 52:30-32)
God describes the poets of that time so the Prophet can be compared with them:
“And as for the poets - (they, too, are prone to deceive themselves: and so, only) those who are lost in grievous error would follow them. Art thou not aware that they roam confusedly through all the valleys (of words and thoughts)[1], and that they (so often) say what they do not do (or feel)? (Most of them are of this kind -) save those who have attained to faith, and do righteous deeds, and remember God unceasingly, and defend themselves (only) after having been wronged, and (trust in God’s promise that) those who are bent on wrongdoing will in time come to know how evil a turn their destinies are bound to take!” (Quran 26:224-227)
Arabian poets were the furthest from the truth, speaking of wine, womanizing, war, and leisure, unlike the Prophet who invites to good manners, serving God, and helping the poor.Muhammad followed his own teachings before anyone else unlike the poets of old or philosophers of today.
The Quran which the Prophet recited was unlike any poetry in its style. The Arabs of the time has strict rules in regards to rhythm, rhyme, syllables and endings to each verse of poetry. The Quran did not conform to any of the rules which were known in the time, but at the same time, it surpasses any type of text which the Arabs had ever heard. Some of them actually became Muslims after hearing only a few verses of the Quran, due to their certain knowledge that the source of something so beautiful as it could not be any created being.
Muhammad was never known to have composed a poem before Islam or after prophethood. Rather, the Prophet had a sever dislike for it. Compilations of his statements, called Sunna, have been diligently preserved and are completely different in its literary content than the Quran. The store-house of Arabic poetry do not contain any couplets by Muhammad.
Was He A Sorcerer?
Prophet Muhammad never learned or practiced sorcery. On the contrary, he condemned the practice of sorcery and taught his followers how to seek protection against it.
Sorcerers have a strong relationship with the devil. Their partnership allows them to deceive people. Devils propagate lies, sins, obscenities, immorality, evil, and they destroy familys. The Quran clarifies those upon whom the devils descend:
“Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend? They descend upon every sinful liar. They pass on what is heard, and most of them are liars.” (Quran 26:221-223)
Prophet Muhammad was known and recognized to be a man of integrity true to his word who was not known to have ever lied. He commanded good morals and fine manners. No sorcerer in world history has brought a scripture like the Quran or a Law like his.
Footnotes:
[1] The idiomatic phrase is used, as most of the commentators point out, to describe a confused or aimless - and often self-contradictory - play with words and thoughts. In this context it is meant to stress the difference between the precision of the Quran, which is free from all inner contradictions, and the vagueness often inherent in poetry.
What the Bible Says About Muhammad
According to the Bible, God said to Moses, on whom be peace: I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. (The Holy Bible, New International Version, Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18). The prophet described in the above verse must have the following three characteristics: 1. He will be like Moses. 2. He will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites. 3. God will put His words in the mouth of the prophet and he will declare what God commanded him. Let us see which prophet God was speaking of. 1. The prophet like Moses Some people feel that this prophecy refers to the prophet Jesus, on whom be peace. But, although Jesus (peace be upon him and all of God’s prophets and messengers) was truly a prophet of God, he is not the prophet spoken of here. He was born miraculously, and finally God raised him up miraculously. On the other hand, Muhammad is more like Moses; both were born in a natural way and both died natural deaths.
2. From among the Ishmaelites Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac (Genesis, chapter 21). Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation. And Isaac became the grandfather of Jewish nation. The prophet spoken of was to come not from among the Jews themselves, but from among their brothers, the Ishmaelites. Muhammad a descendant of Ishmael, is indeed that prophet. 3. God will put his words in his mouth ‘Neither the content of the revelation, nor its form, were of Muhammad’s devising. Both were given by the angel, and Muhammad’s task was only to repeat what he heard.’ (Word Religions from Ancient history to the Present, by Geoffrey Parrinder, p. 472). God sent the angel Gabriel to teach Muhammad the exact words that he should repeat to the people. The words are therefore not his own; they did not come from his own thoughts, but were put into his mouth by the angel. These are written down in the Qur’an word for word, exactly as they came from God. Now that we know that prophet we must listen to him, for, according to the Bible, God says: ‘I will punish anyone who refuses to obey him’ (Good News Bible, Deut. 18:19). Jesus (on whom be peace) In the Glorious Qur'an The Qur’an tells us many wonderful things about Jesus. As a result, believers in the Qur’an love Jesus, honor him and believe in him. In fact, no Muslim can be a Muslim unless he or she believes in Jesus, on whom be peace. The Qur’an says that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he spoke while he was still only a baby, that he healed the blind and the leper by God's leave and that he raised the dead by God's leave. What then is the significance of these miracles? First, the virgin birth. God demonstrates His power to create in every way. God created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But how about Adam, on whom be peace? God created him from neither a man nor a woman. And Eve from only a man, without a woman. And finally, to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman, without a man. What about the other miracles? These were to show that Jesus was not acting on his own behalf, but that he was backed by God. The Qur’an specifies that these miracles were performed by God's leave. This may be compared to the Book of Acts in the Bible, chapter 2, verse 22, where it says that the miracles were done by God to show that he approved of Jesus. Also, note that Jesus himself is recorded in the Gospel of John to have said: ‘I can do nothing of my own authority' (5:30). The miracles, therefore, were done not by his own authority, but by God's authority. What did Jesus teach? The Qur'an tells us that Jesus came to teach the same basic message which was taught by previous prophets from God – that we must shun every false god and worship only the One True God. Jesus taught that he is the servant and messenger of the One True God, the God of Abraham. These Qur'anic teachings can be compared with the Bible (Mark 10:18; Matthew 26:39; John 14:28, 17:3, and 20:17) where Jesus teaches that the one he worshipped is the only true God. See also Matthew 12:18; Acts 3:13, and 4:27 where we find that his disciples knew him as ‘Servant of God’. The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but God rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself. God will cause Jesus to descend again, at which time Jesus will confirm his true teachings and everyone will believe in him as he is and as the Qur'an teaches about him. Jesus is the Messiah. He is a word from God, and a spirit from Him. He is honored in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to God. Jesus was a man who spoke the truth which he heard from God. This can be compared with the Gospel According John where Jesus says to the Israelites: ‘You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God’ (John 8:40).
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_articl...ut_Muhammad.pdf
Muhammad (PBUH): The Seal of The Prophets
In The Name of God
Deut.18: 19.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hear unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Allaah says:
)الذين يتبعون الرسول النبي الأمي الذي
يجدونه مكتوبا عندهم في التوراة والإنجيل (
Those who follow the Messenger, the prophet, who is ummee, (unlettered) whom they find written with them in the Tawrah and in the Injeel. (7:157)
Unlettered Prophet:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (KJV)
" When it is handed to one who cannot read, with the request, " read this" he replies, " I cannot read" (NAB)
The prophethood at Arabia:
Isaiah 21:13-15.
(13) the burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge...
(14) the inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.
(15) for they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword…
Muhammad in The New Testament
John.16: 13
When he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; For he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak. John.16: 13
Prophet Muhammad the last Messenger in the Bible
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_books/...n_the_bible.pdf
The Promised Prophet of the Bible
http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_books/...f_the_bible.pdf
The Prophet Muhammad: a mercy for all creation
“Indeed, in this [Quran] is notification for a worshipping people. And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (Quran: 21:106-107)
Allah's Messenger was the kindest of men in the same way as he excelled all others in courage and valour. Being extremely kind-hearted, his eyes brimmed with tears at the slightest sign of inhumanity. A Companion, Shaddaad bin 'Aws reported the Apostle as saying: "Allah has commanded you to show kindness to everyone, so if you have to kill, kill in a good manner, and if you slaughter an animal, slaughter it gently. If anyone of you has to slay an animal, he should sharpen the blade first and treat the animal well." Ibn 'Abbas relates that a man threw a goat on its side and then started sharpening his knife. When the Prophet saw him he said: "Do you want to kill it twice? Why did you not sharpen the knife before throwing it on the ground?"
A Mercy for the Believers
The Messenger’s compassion towards the believers was of the utmost degree. The Quran describes his compassion in the following verse, which means: “There has certainly come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer; [he is] concerned over you [i.e., your guidance] and to the believers is kind and merciful.” (Quran: 9:128)
Sa‘d bin ‘Ubaadah once became ill, so Allah's Messenger visited him in his house. On seeing his faithful Companion in a pitiful state, he was moved to tears. Then, he said: “Allah does not punish because of tears, nor because of grief, but he punishes because of this."- and he pointed to his tongue. (Al-Bukhari)
A Mercy Towards his Enemies
The prisoners of war taken captive at the battle of Badr were amongst his bitterest enemies. Nevertheless, he made sure that they were given the best of treatment. Among them was Suhayl bin 'Amr who was a fiery speaker and was denouncing the Prophet . 'Umar one the Prophet’s closest companions, suggested that two of his lower teeth be pulled out so that he might not be so vile in his speeches. The Prophet replied: “Were I to do this, Allah would disfigure me on the Day of Judgement, despite the fact that I am His messenger.” (Hadith)
In Makkah, his people inflicted him with every kind of suffering, eventually forcing him to emigrate to Madinah, and then waged war on him for five years. However, when he conquered Makkah without bloodshed in the twenty-first year of his Prophethood, he asked the Makkan unbelievers who were awaiting his decision about them: “How do you expect me to treat you?” They responded unanimously: "You are a noble one, the son of a noble one." He announced to them his decision:
“You may go free! No reproach this day shall be on you; may God forgive you.”
A Mercy for Women
Prophet Muhammad was also very kind and affectionate towards women. Women were very badly treated in those times. The Noble Prophet gave them honour and dignity at par with men in the community. 'Umar reported: "We did not have much regard for women while we were at Makkah, but they were better treated in Madinah. Allah's Messenger established women's rights through his sayings and commandments, which improved their position and status."
A Mercy for Children
Allah's Messenger was particularly compassionate towards children. When he saw a child crying, he sat beside him or her and shared his or her feelings. He felt the pain of a mother for her child more than the mother herself. Once he said: “I stand in prayer and wish to prolong it. However, I hear the cry of a child and cut the prayer short for the anxiety which the mother is feeling.” (Al-Bukhari)
He would take children in his arms and embrace them. He was once hugging his beloved grandsons, Hasan and Hussain, when Aqrah bin Haabis told him, ‘I have got ten children. So far, I have not kissed any of them.’ Allah’s Messenger responded: “The one with no pity for others is not pitied.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
According to another version, he said: “What can I do for you if Allah has removed from you the feeling of compassion?” (At-Tirmidhi)
A Mercy for Slaves
The Prophet strongly enjoined the duty of kind and generous treatment upon slaves, servants and labourers engaged in manual work. Jaabir related the Apostle of Allah as saying: "Feed them with the food which you eat, clothe them with such clothing as you wear, and do not cause trouble to Allah's creatures." The Apostle is further stated to have said: "Those whom Allah has made your dependents are your brothers, servants and helpmates. Anybody whose brother has been made subservient to him ought to feed him with the food he eats and clothe him with the clothes he wears; command him not to do that which he is unable to do and if it becomes necessary to do so then he should help him in doing the job."
A Mercy for Animals
His compassion encompassed not only human beings, but also animals.
The Prophet forbade his companions to keep the unintelligent creatures hungry or thirsty, to disturb or to overburden them. He commended that kindness and putting them at ease were meritorious acts tending to bring man nearer to Allah. Abu Hurairah reports the Prophet as saying: "A traveler who was thirsty saw a well in the way. He got inside the well and when he came out he saw a dog licking mud due to thirst. The man realised that the dog was as thirsty as him, so he got into the well again, filled his leather sock with water and carried it out holding it with his teeth. Thus, he quenched the thirst of the dog. Allah was pleased with this act of kindness and pardoned his sins." The Companions asked: "O Messenger of Allah is there recompense in the matter of beasts and wild animals also?" The Prophet replied: "There is recompense in regard to every creature that has a living heart."
'Abdullah bin 'Umar related that the Prophet said: "A woman was cast away to hell only because she had withheld food and water from her cat and refused to set it free so that the cat might satisfy its hunger by eating worms and insects."
Once on return from a military campaign, a few Companions took away the chicks of a bird from their nest to stroke them. The mother bird came back and when it could not find its chicks in the nest, it began to fly around screeching. When informed of the matter, Allah’s Messenger became angry and ordered the chicks to be put back in the nest. (Abu Dawood)
Conclusion
The love and compassion of Allah’s Messenger for all kinds of creatures was not of the kind claimed by today’s ‘humanists’. He was sincere and balanced in his love and compassion. He was more compassionate than any other person. He was a Prophet raised by Allah, the Creator and Sustainer of all beings, for the guidance and happiness of conscious beings - mankind and jinn - and the harmony of existence. Therefore, he lived not for himself but for others; he is a mercy for all the worlds.
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Muhammad’s Claim to Prophethood
(Part 1 of 3):
Proofs of his Prophethood
Divine facilitation is proportionate to human need. God makes acquisition
easier as the need of humans increase. Air, water, and sunlight are necessary
for human survival, and thus God has granted their acquisition to all
without hardship. The greatest human need is to know the Creator, and
thus, God has made it easy to know Him. The evidence for God, however,
differs in its nature. In its own way, everything in creation is evidence of
its Creator. Some evidence is so obvious that any lay person can immediately
‘see’ the Creator, for instance, the cycle of life and death. Others
‘see’ the handiwork of the Creator in the elegance of mathematical theorems,
universal constants of physics, and the development of the embryo:
“Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation
of night and day, - there are indeed signs for men of understanding.” (Quran
3:190)
Like the existence of God, human beings need evidence to establish the
truth of prophets who spoke in His
name. Muhammad, like the prophets
before him, claimed to be God’s final
prophet to humanity. Naturally, the
evidence for his veracity is diverse
and numerous. Some are obvious,
while others are apparent only after
deep reflection.
God says in the Quran:
“…Is it not enough (for them to know) that your Lord is witness unto everything?”
(Quran 41:53)
Divine witness by itself is sufficient without any other evidence. God’s
witness for Muhammad lies in:
(a) God’s past revelations to earlier prophets which prophesize Muhammad’s
appearance.
( b ) God’s Acts: the miracles and ‘signs’ He gave to support Muhammad’s
claim.
How did it all begin in the early days of Islam? How were the first believers
convinced he was God’s prophet?
The first person to believe in the Prophethood of Muhammad was his own
wife, Khadija. When he returned home trembling out of fear after receiving
divine revelation, she was his solace:
“Never! By God, God will never disgrace you. You keep good relations
with your relatives, help the poor, serve your guests generously, and assist
those hit with calamities.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
She saw in her husband a man God would not humiliate, because of his
virtues of honesty, justice, and helping the poor.
His closest friend, Abu Bakr who had known him all his life and was almost
the same age, believed the moment he heard the words, ‘I am God’s
Messenger’ without any additional confirmation other than the open book
of his friend’s life.
Another person who accepted his call on merely listening to it, was
‘Amr’1He says:
“I used to think before Islam that people were in error and they were on
nothing. They worshipped idols. In the meantime, I heard of a man preaching
in Mecca; so I went to him…I asked him: ‘Who are you?’ He said: ‘I
am a Prophet.’ I again said: ‘Who is a Prophet?’ He said: ‘God sent me.’ I
said: ‘What did He send you with?’ He said: ‘I have been sent to join ties
of relationship, to break the idols, and to proclaim the unity of God so
nothing is associated with Him (in worship).’ I said: ‘Who is with you in
this?’ He said: ‘A free man and a slave (referring to Abu Bakr and Bilal, a
slave, who had embraced Islam by that time).’ I said: ‘I intend to follow
you.’” (Saheeh Muslim)
Dimad was a desert healer who specialized in mental illnesses. On his visit
to Mecca he heard the Meccans say that Muhammad (may the blessing and
mercy of God be upon him) was insane! Confident of his skills, he said to
himself, ‘If I were to come across this man, God might cure him at my
hand.’ Dimad met the Prophet and said: ‘Muhammad, I can protect (one)
who suffers from mental illness or under sorcery, and God cures one
whom He so desires at my hand. Do you desire to be cured?’ The Prophet
of God responded, starting with his usual introduction to his sermons:
1 Amr b. Abasa Sulami.
“Indeed, praise and gratitude is for God. We praise Him and ask for His
help. He who God guides, none can lead astray, and he who is led astray
cannot be guided. I bear witness no one deserves worship but God, He is
One, has no partners, and Muhammad is His Servant and Messenger.”
Dimad, stuck by the beauty of the words, asked him to repeat them, and
said, ‘I have heard the words of diviners, sorcerers, and poets, but I have
never heard such words, they reach the depth of the oceans. Give me your
hand so I may pledge my allegiance to you on Islam.’1
After Gabriel brought the first revelation to Prophet Muhammad, Khadija,
his wife, took him to visit her old cousin, Waraqa bin Nawfal, a biblical
scholar, to discuss the event. Waraqa recognized Muhammad from the
prophecies of the Bible and confirmed:
“This is the Keeper of Secrets (Angel Gabriel) who came to Moses.” (Saheeh
Al-Bukhari)
The face can be a window to the soul. Abdullah bin Salam, the chief rabbi
of Medina at the time, looked at the face of the Prophet when he arrived in
Medina, and exclaimed:
“The moment I looked at his face, I knew it was not the face of a liar!”
(Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
Many of those around the Prophet who did not accept Islam did not doubt
in his veracity, but refused to do so for other reasons. His uncle, Abu Talib,
aided him throughout his life, confessed to the truthfulness of Muhammad,
but refused to break off from the religion of his ancestors out of
shame and social status.
1 Saheeh Muslim.
Muhammad’s Claim to Prophethood (Part
2 of 3):
Was he a liar?
A Logical Analysis of His Claim
As discussed earlier, Muhammad made the claim, ‘I am God’s Messenger.’
Either he was true in his claim or he was not. We will begin by the
assuming the latter and investigate all possibilities raised by skeptics of
past and present, discussing some of their misconceptions. Only if all other
possibilities are exhausted can one reasonably claim that the only possibility
left is that he was true in what he claimed. We will also look at what
the Quran has to say on the matter.
Was He a Liar?
Is it possible for a liar to claim for a period of 23 years with unwavering
certitude that he is a prophet like Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, that there
will be no more prophets after him, and that the scripture he has been sent
with will remain his lasting miracle till the end of time?
A liar will falter sometimes, perhaps with a friend, maybe with his family
members, somewhere he will make a mistake. His message, delivered over
two decades, will contradict itself sometimes. But what we see in reality is
that the scripture he brought declares freedom from internal inconsistencies,
his message remained consistent throughout his mission and even in
the midst of a battle, he proclaimed his Prophethood!1
His life story is preserved book open for everyone to read. Before Islam,
he was well-known to his own people to be trustworthy and reliable, an
honest man, a person of integrity, who did not lie.2 It was due to this reason
they named him “Al-Ameen”, or “The Trustworthy” He was strongly
opposed to lying and warned against it. Is it possible for him to tell a
consistent lie for 23 years, a lie so monstrous that it would make him a
social outcast, when he was never known to have lied even once about
anything? It’s simply against the psychology of liars.
If one was to ask why a person would make claim to Prophethood and lie,
their answer might be one of two:
1) Fame, Glory, wealth and status.
1 Saheeh Al-Bukhari
2 ‘Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources’ by Martin Lings, p. 34.
2) Moral progress.
If we were to say that the Muhammad claimed prophethood for fame glory
and status, we would see that what actually occurred was the exact opposite.
Muhammad, before his claim to Prophethood, enjoyed a high status
in all aspects” He was of the most noble of tribes, of the most noble of
families, and was known for his truthfulness. After his claim, he became a
social outcast. For 13 years in Makkah, he and his followers faced excruciating
torture, which led to the death of some of his followers, ridicule,
sanctioning, and excommunication from society.
There were many other ways which a person could gain fame in the society
of that time, mainly from valor, and poetry. If Muhammad had made the
claim that he himself authored the Quran, as will be explained later, that
would have been enough for his name and poetry to be engraved in gold
and hung inside the Ka’bah for eternity, people from all over the world
hallowing him. Rather, he proclaimed that he was not the author of his
revelation, and that it was from the One high above, causing him to be
ridiculed in his time until ours.
The Prophet was the husband of a wealthy tradeswoman, and he enjoyed
the comforts of life available to him at his time. But after his claim of prophethood,
he became of the poorest of people. Days passed without stove
fire being lit in his house, and at one time, hunger drove him to the mosque
in hope of some provision. The leaders of Makkah in his time offered him
the riches of the world in order for him to leave his message. As a response
to their offer, he recited the verses of the Quran 41:1-38.11. The
Following are some of these verses:
“(As for) those who say: ‘Our Lord is God,’ and, further, stand straight
and steadfast, the angels descend upon them, saying: ‘Fear not, nor be
grieved, and receive good news of the garden which you were promised.
We are your guardians in this world's life and in the hereafter, and you
shall have therein what your souls desire and you shall have therein what
you ask for. A hospitable gift from one Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful!’
And who is better in speech than one who calls to God, works righteousness,
and says, ‘I am of those who have submitted in Islam?’ Nor can
goodness and evil be equal. Repel (evil) with what is better: Then will he
between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate.
And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exer4
cise patience and self-restraint, - none but persons of the greatest good
fortune.” (Quran 41:30-35)
If one were to say that Muhammad lied and claimed prophethood in order
to bring moral and religious reform to a society ridden with ills, this argument
is futile in itself, for how can one bring moral reform through a lie.
If Muhammad was so keen to uphold and preach upright morals and worship
of One God, then could he have lied himself in doing so? If we say
that this is not possible, the only answer is that he was speaking the truth.
The only other possibility is that he was insane.
Muhammad’s Claim to Prophethood
(part 3 of 3):
Was He Insane, a Poet, or a Sorcerer?
Was He Insane?
Someone who has dealt with mentally ill knows people can be identified by their symptoms. Muhammad displayed no symptom of insanity at any time in his life No friend, wife, or family member suspected or abandoned him due to insanity. As for the effects of revelations on the Prophet, such as perspiration and the likes, it was due to the intensity of the Message which he had to bear and not due to any epileptic fit or instance of insanity...
Quite to the contrary, Muhammad preached for a long time and brought a Law unknown in its completeness and sophistication to ancient Arabs. If the prophet was insane, it would have been obvious to those around him at one point in a period of twenty three years. When in history did an insane man preach his message to worship One God for ten years, three of which he and his followers spent in exile, and eventually became the ruler of his lands? Which insane man has ever won the hearts and minds of people who met him and earned the respect of his adversaries?
More so, his closest companions, Abu Bakr and Umar were recognized for their abilities, nobility, skills, and finesse. They were willing to sacrifice anything for the religion he brought. On one occasion, Abu Bakr, brought all his material possessions to Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, and when asked what he left for his family, responded, ‘I left for them God and His Messenger!’
Abu Bakr, a merchant by profession, after being elected the ruler of all of Arabs after Muhammad, spent a mere two dirham on himself and his family!
Umar became the ruler of Arabia after Abu Bakr and conquered Syria, Egypt, and subdued the Persian and Roman Empires. He was a man known for his scrupulous justice. How can someone suggest these people were following a mentally deranged individual?
God suggests: stand before God without bias or pre-conceived beliefs, and discuss it with another person or think about it yourself, this prophet has no madness, he is as stable today as you had known him for forty years.
“Say: ‘I counsel you one thing only: Be (ever conscious of) standing before God, whether you are in the company of others or alone; and then bethink yourselves (that) there is no madness in (this prophet,) your fellow-man: he is only a warner to you of suffering severe to come.’” (Quran 34:46)
The Meccans of old rejected his call out of tribal partisanship, and they were not truthful in their accusations of his insanity. Even today, many people refuse to accept Muhammad as a prophet simply because he was an Arab and self-gratify themselves by saying he must have been insane or worked for the devil. Their hatred for Arabs translates into their rejection of Muhammad, even though God says:
“Nay, but he (whom you call a mad poet) has brought the truth; and he confirms the truth of (what the earlier of God’s) message-bearers (have taught).” (Quran 37:37)
Although the pagan Arabs knew Muhammad all too well, but they still through accusations of insanity at him, for they considered his religion a sacrilege against the tradition of their forefathers.
“And when our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, they say, ‘This is not but a man who wishes to avert you from that which your fathers were worshipping.’ And they say, ‘This is not except a lie invented.’ And those who disbelieve say of the truth when it has come to them, ‘This is not but obvious magic.’ And We had not given them any scriptures which they could study, and We had not sent to them before you, (O Muhammad), any warner. And those before them denied, and they (the people of Mecca) have not attained a tenth of what We had given them. But they (i.e., the former peoples) denied My messengers, so how (terrible) was My reproach.” (Quran 34:43-45)
Was He A Poet?
God mentions their accusation in the Quran and responds to it:
“Or do they say (of you), ‘A poet for whom we await a misfortune of time?’ Say, ‘Wait, for indeed I am, with you, among the waiters.’ Or do their minds command them to (say) this, or are they a transgressing people? Or do they say, ‘He has made it up?’ Rather, they do not believe.” (Quran 52:30-32)
God describes the poets of that time so the Prophet can be compared with them:
“And as for the poets - (they, too, are prone to deceive themselves: and so, only) those who are lost in grievous error would follow them. Art thou not aware that they roam confusedly through all the valleys (of words and thoughts)[1], and that they (so often) say what they do not do (or feel)? (Most of them are of this kind -) save those who have attained to faith, and do righteous deeds, and remember God unceasingly, and defend themselves (only) after having been wronged, and (trust in God’s promise that) those who are bent on wrongdoing will in time come to know how evil a turn their destinies are bound to take!” (Quran 26:224-227)
Arabian poets were the furthest from the truth, speaking of wine, womanizing, war, and leisure, unlike the Prophet who invites to good manners, serving God, and helping the poor.Muhammad followed his own teachings before anyone else unlike the poets of old or philosophers of today.
The Quran which the Prophet recited was unlike any poetry in its style. The Arabs of the time has strict rules in regards to rhythm, rhyme, syllables and endings to each verse of poetry. The Quran did not conform to any of the rules which were known in the time, but at the same time, it surpasses any type of text which the Arabs had ever heard. Some of them actually became Muslims after hearing only a few verses of the Quran, due to their certain knowledge that the source of something so beautiful as it could not be any created being.
Muhammad was never known to have composed a poem before Islam or after prophethood. Rather, the Prophet had a sever dislike for it. Compilations of his statements, called Sunna, have been diligently preserved and are completely different in its literary content than the Quran. The store-house of Arabic poetry do not contain any couplets by Muhammad.
Was He A Sorcerer?
Prophet Muhammad never learned or practiced sorcery. On the contrary, he condemned the practice of sorcery and taught his followers how to seek protection against it.
Sorcerers have a strong relationship with the devil. Their partnership allows them to deceive people. Devils propagate lies, sins, obscenities, immorality, evil, and they destroy familys. The Quran clarifies those upon whom the devils descend:
“Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend? They descend upon every sinful liar. They pass on what is heard, and most of them are liars.” (Quran 26:221-223)
Prophet Muhammad was known and recognized to be a man of integrity true to his word who was not known to have ever lied. He commanded good morals and fine manners. No sorcerer in world history has brought a scripture like the Quran or a Law like his.
Footnotes:
[1] The idiomatic phrase is used, as most of the commentators point out, to describe a confused or aimless - and often self-contradictory - play with words and thoughts. In this context it is meant to stress the difference between the precision of the Quran, which is free from all inner contradictions, and the vagueness often inherent in poetry.
What the Bible Says About Muhammad
According to the Bible, God said to Moses, on whom be peace: I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. (The Holy Bible, New International Version, Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18). The prophet described in the above verse must have the following three characteristics: 1. He will be like Moses. 2. He will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites. 3. God will put His words in the mouth of the prophet and he will declare what God commanded him. Let us see which prophet God was speaking of. 1. The prophet like Moses Some people feel that this prophecy refers to the prophet Jesus, on whom be peace. But, although Jesus (peace be upon him and all of God’s prophets and messengers) was truly a prophet of God, he is not the prophet spoken of here. He was born miraculously, and finally God raised him up miraculously. On the other hand, Muhammad is more like Moses; both were born in a natural way and both died natural deaths.
2. From among the Ishmaelites Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac (Genesis, chapter 21). Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation. And Isaac became the grandfather of Jewish nation. The prophet spoken of was to come not from among the Jews themselves, but from among their brothers, the Ishmaelites. Muhammad a descendant of Ishmael, is indeed that prophet. 3. God will put his words in his mouth ‘Neither the content of the revelation, nor its form, were of Muhammad’s devising. Both were given by the angel, and Muhammad’s task was only to repeat what he heard.’ (Word Religions from Ancient history to the Present, by Geoffrey Parrinder, p. 472). God sent the angel Gabriel to teach Muhammad the exact words that he should repeat to the people. The words are therefore not his own; they did not come from his own thoughts, but were put into his mouth by the angel. These are written down in the Qur’an word for word, exactly as they came from God. Now that we know that prophet we must listen to him, for, according to the Bible, God says: ‘I will punish anyone who refuses to obey him’ (Good News Bible, Deut. 18:19). Jesus (on whom be peace) In the Glorious Qur'an The Qur’an tells us many wonderful things about Jesus. As a result, believers in the Qur’an love Jesus, honor him and believe in him. In fact, no Muslim can be a Muslim unless he or she believes in Jesus, on whom be peace. The Qur’an says that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he spoke while he was still only a baby, that he healed the blind and the leper by God's leave and that he raised the dead by God's leave. What then is the significance of these miracles? First, the virgin birth. God demonstrates His power to create in every way. God created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But how about Adam, on whom be peace? God created him from neither a man nor a woman. And Eve from only a man, without a woman. And finally, to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman, without a man. What about the other miracles? These were to show that Jesus was not acting on his own behalf, but that he was backed by God. The Qur’an specifies that these miracles were performed by God's leave. This may be compared to the Book of Acts in the Bible, chapter 2, verse 22, where it says that the miracles were done by God to show that he approved of Jesus. Also, note that Jesus himself is recorded in the Gospel of John to have said: ‘I can do nothing of my own authority' (5:30). The miracles, therefore, were done not by his own authority, but by God's authority. What did Jesus teach? The Qur'an tells us that Jesus came to teach the same basic message which was taught by previous prophets from God – that we must shun every false god and worship only the One True God. Jesus taught that he is the servant and messenger of the One True God, the God of Abraham. These Qur'anic teachings can be compared with the Bible (Mark 10:18; Matthew 26:39; John 14:28, 17:3, and 20:17) where Jesus teaches that the one he worshipped is the only true God. See also Matthew 12:18; Acts 3:13, and 4:27 where we find that his disciples knew him as ‘Servant of God’. The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but God rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself. God will cause Jesus to descend again, at which time Jesus will confirm his true teachings and everyone will believe in him as he is and as the Qur'an teaches about him. Jesus is the Messiah. He is a word from God, and a spirit from Him. He is honored in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to God. Jesus was a man who spoke the truth which he heard from God. This can be compared with the Gospel According John where Jesus says to the Israelites: ‘You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God’ (John 8:40).
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Muhammad (PBUH): The Seal of The Prophets
In The Name of God
Deut.18: 19.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hear unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Allaah says:
)الذين يتبعون الرسول النبي الأمي الذي
يجدونه مكتوبا عندهم في التوراة والإنجيل (
Those who follow the Messenger, the prophet, who is ummee, (unlettered) whom they find written with them in the Tawrah and in the Injeel. (7:157)
Unlettered Prophet:
And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (KJV)
" When it is handed to one who cannot read, with the request, " read this" he replies, " I cannot read" (NAB)
The prophethood at Arabia:
Isaiah 21:13-15.
(13) the burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge...
(14) the inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.
(15) for they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword…
Muhammad in The New Testament
John.16: 13
When he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; For he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak. John.16: 13
Prophet Muhammad the last Messenger in the Bible
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The Prophet Muhammad: a mercy for all creation
“Indeed, in this [Quran] is notification for a worshipping people. And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (Quran: 21:106-107)
Allah's Messenger was the kindest of men in the same way as he excelled all others in courage and valour. Being extremely kind-hearted, his eyes brimmed with tears at the slightest sign of inhumanity. A Companion, Shaddaad bin 'Aws reported the Apostle as saying: "Allah has commanded you to show kindness to everyone, so if you have to kill, kill in a good manner, and if you slaughter an animal, slaughter it gently. If anyone of you has to slay an animal, he should sharpen the blade first and treat the animal well." Ibn 'Abbas relates that a man threw a goat on its side and then started sharpening his knife. When the Prophet saw him he said: "Do you want to kill it twice? Why did you not sharpen the knife before throwing it on the ground?"
A Mercy for the Believers
The Messenger’s compassion towards the believers was of the utmost degree. The Quran describes his compassion in the following verse, which means: “There has certainly come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer; [he is] concerned over you [i.e., your guidance] and to the believers is kind and merciful.” (Quran: 9:128)
Sa‘d bin ‘Ubaadah once became ill, so Allah's Messenger visited him in his house. On seeing his faithful Companion in a pitiful state, he was moved to tears. Then, he said: “Allah does not punish because of tears, nor because of grief, but he punishes because of this."- and he pointed to his tongue. (Al-Bukhari)
A Mercy Towards his Enemies
The prisoners of war taken captive at the battle of Badr were amongst his bitterest enemies. Nevertheless, he made sure that they were given the best of treatment. Among them was Suhayl bin 'Amr who was a fiery speaker and was denouncing the Prophet . 'Umar one the Prophet’s closest companions, suggested that two of his lower teeth be pulled out so that he might not be so vile in his speeches. The Prophet replied: “Were I to do this, Allah would disfigure me on the Day of Judgement, despite the fact that I am His messenger.” (Hadith)
In Makkah, his people inflicted him with every kind of suffering, eventually forcing him to emigrate to Madinah, and then waged war on him for five years. However, when he conquered Makkah without bloodshed in the twenty-first year of his Prophethood, he asked the Makkan unbelievers who were awaiting his decision about them: “How do you expect me to treat you?” They responded unanimously: "You are a noble one, the son of a noble one." He announced to them his decision:
“You may go free! No reproach this day shall be on you; may God forgive you.”
A Mercy for Women
Prophet Muhammad was also very kind and affectionate towards women. Women were very badly treated in those times. The Noble Prophet gave them honour and dignity at par with men in the community. 'Umar reported: "We did not have much regard for women while we were at Makkah, but they were better treated in Madinah. Allah's Messenger established women's rights through his sayings and commandments, which improved their position and status."
A Mercy for Children
Allah's Messenger was particularly compassionate towards children. When he saw a child crying, he sat beside him or her and shared his or her feelings. He felt the pain of a mother for her child more than the mother herself. Once he said: “I stand in prayer and wish to prolong it. However, I hear the cry of a child and cut the prayer short for the anxiety which the mother is feeling.” (Al-Bukhari)
He would take children in his arms and embrace them. He was once hugging his beloved grandsons, Hasan and Hussain, when Aqrah bin Haabis told him, ‘I have got ten children. So far, I have not kissed any of them.’ Allah’s Messenger responded: “The one with no pity for others is not pitied.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
According to another version, he said: “What can I do for you if Allah has removed from you the feeling of compassion?” (At-Tirmidhi)
A Mercy for Slaves
The Prophet strongly enjoined the duty of kind and generous treatment upon slaves, servants and labourers engaged in manual work. Jaabir related the Apostle of Allah as saying: "Feed them with the food which you eat, clothe them with such clothing as you wear, and do not cause trouble to Allah's creatures." The Apostle is further stated to have said: "Those whom Allah has made your dependents are your brothers, servants and helpmates. Anybody whose brother has been made subservient to him ought to feed him with the food he eats and clothe him with the clothes he wears; command him not to do that which he is unable to do and if it becomes necessary to do so then he should help him in doing the job."
A Mercy for Animals
His compassion encompassed not only human beings, but also animals.
The Prophet forbade his companions to keep the unintelligent creatures hungry or thirsty, to disturb or to overburden them. He commended that kindness and putting them at ease were meritorious acts tending to bring man nearer to Allah. Abu Hurairah reports the Prophet as saying: "A traveler who was thirsty saw a well in the way. He got inside the well and when he came out he saw a dog licking mud due to thirst. The man realised that the dog was as thirsty as him, so he got into the well again, filled his leather sock with water and carried it out holding it with his teeth. Thus, he quenched the thirst of the dog. Allah was pleased with this act of kindness and pardoned his sins." The Companions asked: "O Messenger of Allah is there recompense in the matter of beasts and wild animals also?" The Prophet replied: "There is recompense in regard to every creature that has a living heart."
'Abdullah bin 'Umar related that the Prophet said: "A woman was cast away to hell only because she had withheld food and water from her cat and refused to set it free so that the cat might satisfy its hunger by eating worms and insects."
Once on return from a military campaign, a few Companions took away the chicks of a bird from their nest to stroke them. The mother bird came back and when it could not find its chicks in the nest, it began to fly around screeching. When informed of the matter, Allah’s Messenger became angry and ordered the chicks to be put back in the nest. (Abu Dawood)
Conclusion
The love and compassion of Allah’s Messenger for all kinds of creatures was not of the kind claimed by today’s ‘humanists’. He was sincere and balanced in his love and compassion. He was more compassionate than any other person. He was a Prophet raised by Allah, the Creator and Sustainer of all beings, for the guidance and happiness of conscious beings - mankind and jinn - and the harmony of existence. Therefore, he lived not for himself but for others; he is a mercy for all the worlds.
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QUOTE (TracerTong+Nov 29 2009, 07:32 PM)
Your religion is spread by the sword - what do you say to that?
Many non-Muslims, when they think about Islam, picture religious fanatics on camels with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the other. This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades, is totally baseless. First of all, the Holy Qur'an clearly says "Let there be no compulsion in religion".
In addition to this, Islam teaches that a person's faith must be pure and sincere, so it is certainly not something that can be forced on someone. In debunking the myth that Islam was "spread by the sword", the (non-Muslim) historian De Lacy O' Leary wrote: "History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever accepted." (Islam at the Crossroads, London, 1923, p. 8.). It should also be known that Muslims ruled Spain for roughly 800 years. During this time, and up to when they were finally forced out, the non-Muslims there were alive and flourishing. Additionally, Christian and Jewish minorities have survived in the Muslim lands of the Middle East for centuries. Countries such as Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan all have Christian and/or Jewish populations. If Islam taught that all people are supposed to be killed or forced to become Muslims, how did all of these non-Muslims survive for so long in the middle of the Islamic Empire?
Additionally, if one considers the small number of Muslims who initially spread Islam from Spain and Morocco in the West to India and China in the East, one would realize that they were far too few to force people to be members of a religion against their will. Additionally, the great empire and civilization established by the Muslims had great staying power -- its citizens were proud to be part of it. The spread of Islam stands in contrast to the actions of the followers of Christianity, who since the time of the Emperor Constantine have made liberal use of the sword - often basing their conduct on Biblical verses. This was especially true of the colonization of South America and Africa, where native peoples were systematically wiped-out or forced to convert. It is also interesting to note that when the Mongols invaded and conquered large portions of the Islamic Empire, instead of destroying the religion, they adopted it. This is a unique occurrence in history - the conquerors adopting the religion of the conquered! Since they were the victors, they certainly could not have been forced to become Muslims! Ask any of the over 1.8 billion Muslims alive in the world today whether they were forced! The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia --- and there were never any battles fought there! So where was the sword? How could someone be forced to adhere to a spiritually rewarding and demanding religion like Islam?
Islam is the fastest growing religion and
the second largest religion in the world
Muslims in Asia (1996) 1,022,692,000 (30%)
Muslims in Africa (1996) 426,282,000 (59%)
Total Number of Muslims on the Earth (1996) 1,482,596,925
Total Number of People on the Earth (1996) 5,771,939,007
Percentage of Muslims (1996) 26%
Islam annual growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 6.40%
Christianity growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 1.46%
Total Number of Muslims on the Earth (1998) 1,678,442,000
Expected Number of Muslims on the Earth (2000) 1,902,095,000
This table below shows the growth of Islam:
North America (1989-1998) 25%
Africa 2.15%
Asia 12.57%
Europe 142.35%
Latin America -4.73%
Australia 257.01%
Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. By comparison, Christians have increased by only 47 percent, Hinduism, 117 percent, and Buddhism by 63 percent. Islam is the second largest religious group in France, Great Britain and USA (Muslims in USA are 10 millions and Jews are 6 millions).
USA '96
140.0 million Christians
010.0 million Muslims
004.3 million Jews
USA by denomination in millions (1996)
59.0 Roman Catholic
15.3 Southern Baptist
10.0 Muslims
08.7 United Methodist
08.2 National Baptist USA
05.5 Church of God in Christ
05.2 Evangelical Lutheran USA
04.4 Mormon
03.7 Presbyterian Church USA
03.5 African Methodist Episcopal Church
02.6 Lutheran Church of Missouri
02.4 Episcopal Church
02.2 Assemblies of God
02.0 United Synagogue of America (Conservative Jews)
01.5 American Baptist
01.5 Baptist Bible Fellowship International
01.5 Greek Orthodox
01.3 United American Hebrew Congregation (Reform Jews)
01.2 African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
01.0 United Orthodox Jewish Congregation of America (Orthodox Jews)
01.0 Disciples of Christ
The Worlds Major Religions Changes
In the last half century...
Confucianism & Taoism decrease 13%
350,600,000
305,000,000
Judaism decrease 4%
15,630,000
15,000,000
Christianity increase 47%
682,400,000
1,000,000,000
Eastern Orthodox decrease 36%
144,000,000
092,000,000
Protestant increase 57%
206,900,000
324,000,000
Catholic increase 70%
331,500,000
565,000,000
Buddhism increase 63%
150,180,000
245,000,000
Hinduism increase 117%
230,150,000
500,000,000
Shintoism increase 152%
25,000,000
63,000,000
Islam increase 235%
209,020,000
700,000,000
Growth rates taken between
World Almanac and Book of Facts, 1935
and
Readers Digest Almanac and Yearbook 1983
This report includes all the countries of the world and shows how many Muslims are in each one.
Country Name Total Population Muslims Percentage Number of Muslims
Afghanistan 22,664,136 100% 22,664,136
Albania 3,249,136 75% 2,436,852
Algeria 29,183,032 99% 28,891,202
Angola 10,342,899 25% 2,585,725
Antigua and Barbuda 65,647 n/a
Argentina 34,672,997 2 693,460
Aruba 67,794 5 3,390
Australia 18,260,863 2.09 382,000
Azerbaijan 7,676,953 93.4 7,170,274
Bahrain 590,042 100 590,042
Benin 5,709,529 15 856,429
Bangladesh 123,062,800 85 104,603,380
Bhutan 1,822,625 5 91,131
Bosnia and Herzegovina 2,656,240 40 1,062,496
Botswana 1,477,630 5 73,882
Brazil 162,661,214 0.6 1,000,000
Brunei 299,939 63 188,962
Bulgaria 8,612,757 14 1,205,786
Burkina Faso 10,623,323 50 5,311,662
Burma 45,975,625 10 4,597,563
Burundi 5,943,057 20 1,188,611
Cambodia 10,861,218 1 108,612
Cameroon 14,261,557 55 7,843,856
Canada 28,820,671 1.48 400,000
Central African Republic 3,274,426 55 1,800,934
Chad 6,976,845 85 5,930,318
China 1,210,004,956 11 133,100,545
Christmas Island 813 10 81
Cocos (Keeling) Island 609 57 347
Comoros 569,237 86 489,544
Congo 2,527,841 15 379,176
Cote d'Ivoire 14,762,445 60 8,857,467
Croatia 5,004,112 1.2 60,049
Cyprus 744,609 33 245,721
Djibouti 427,642 94 401,983
Egypt 63,575,107 94 59,760,601
Equatorial Guinea 431,282 25 107,821
Eritrea 3,427,883 80 2,742,306
Ethiopia 57,171,662 65 37,161,580
Fiji 782,381 11 86,062
France 58,317,450 7 4,082,222
Gabon 1,172,798 1 11,728
Gambia 1,204,984 90 1,084,486
Gaza Strip 923,940 98.7 911,929
Georgia 5,219,810 11 574,179
Germany 83,536,115 3.4 2,840,228
Ghana 17,698,271 30 5,309,481
Gibraltar 28,765 8 2,301
Greece 10,538,594 1.5 158,079
Guinea 7,411,981 95 7,041,382
Guinea-Bissau 1,151,330 70 805,931
Guyana 712,091 15 106,814
Hong Kong 6,305,413 1 63,054
India 952,107,694 14 133,295,077
Indonesia 206,611,600 95 196,281,020
Iran 66,094,264 99 65,433,321
Iraq 21,422,292 97 20,779,623
Israel 5,421,995 14 759,079
Italy 57,460,274 1 574,603
Japan 125,449,703 1 1,254,497
Jordan 4,212,152 95 4,001,544
Kazakstan 16,916,463 51.2 8,661,229
Kenya 28,176,686 29.5 8,312,122
Kuwait 1,950,047 89 1,735,542
Kyrgyzstan 4,529,648 76.1 3,447,062
Lebanon 3,776,317 70 2,643,422
Liberia 2,109,789 30 632,937
Libya 5,445,436 100 5,445,436
Lesotho 1,970,781 10 197,078
Macedonia 2,104,035 30 631,211
Madagascar 13,670,507 20 2,734,101
Malawi 9,452,844 35 3,308,495
Malaysia 19,962,893 52 10,380,704
Maldives 270,758 100 270,758
Mali 9,653,261 90 8,687,935
Malta 375,576 14 52,581
Mauritania 2,336,048 100 2,336,048
Mauritius 1,140,256 19.5 222,350
Mayotte 100,838 99 99,830
Mongolia 2,496,617 4 99,865
Morocco 29,779,156 98.7 29,392,027
Mozambique 17,877,927 29 5,184,599
Namibia 1,677,243 5 83,862
Nepal 22,094,033 4 883,761
Netherlands 15,568,034 3 467,041
Niger 9,113,001 91 8,292,831
Nigeria 103,912,489 75 77,934,367
Norway 4,438,547 1.5 66,578
Oman 2,186,548 100 2,186,548
Pakistan 129,275,660 97 125,397,390
Panama 2,655,094 4 106,204
Philippines 74,480,848 14 10,427,319
Qatar 547,761 100 547,761
Reunion 679,198 20 135,840
Romania 21,657,162 20 4,331,432
Russia 148,178,487 18 26,672,127
Rwanda 6,853,359 1 68,534
Saudi Arabia 19,409,058 100 19,409,058
Senegal 9,092,749 95 8,638,112
Serbia and Montenegro 10,614,558 19 2,016,766
Sierra Leone 4,793,121 65 3,115,529
Singapore 3,396,924 17 577,477
Slovenia 1,951,443 1 19,514
Somalia 9,639,151 100 9,639,151
South Africa 41,743,459 2 834,869
Sri Lanka 18,553,074 9 1,669,777
Sudan 31,547,543 85 26,815,412
Suriname 436,418 25 109,105
Swaziland 998,730 10 99,873
Sweden 9,800,000 3.6 320,000
Syria 15,608,648 90 14,047,783
Tajikistan 5,916,373 85 5,028,917
Tanzania 29,058,470 65 18,888,006
Thailand 58,851,357 14 8,239,190
Togo 4,570,530 55 2,513,792
Trinidad and Tobago 1,272,385 12 152,686
Tunisia 9,019,687 98 8,839,293
Turkey 62,484,478 99.8 62,359,509
Turkmenistan 4,149,283 87 3,609,876
Uganda 20,158,176 36 7,256,943
United Arab Emirates 3,057,337 96 2,935,044
United Kingdom 58,489,975 2.7 1,579,229
United States 266,476,278 3.75 9,992,860
Uzbekistan 23,418,381 88 20,608,175
West Bank 1,427,741 75 1,070,806
Western Sahara 222,631 100 222,631
Yemen 13,483,178 99 13,348,346
Zaire 46,498,539 10 4,649,854
Zambia 9,159,072 15 1,373,861
Zimbabwe 11,271,314 15 1,690,697
Muslims Population
http://islamicweb.com/begin/muslims_population.gif
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you,
Allaah says:
And those who have no knowledge say: Why doth not Allah speak unto us, or some sign come unto us? Even thus, as they now speak, spake those (who were) before them. Their hearts are all alike. We have made clear the revelations for people who are sure. (118) Lo! We have sent thee (O Muhammad) with the truth, a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire. (119)
Allaah didn't say that to you directly, did he?
He certainly didn't say anything to me.
how do you know that Allaah said any of those things?
It could have all been made up.
there was an episode of Happy Days where the Fonz met a new girl that said she was a virgin. Someone asked how he knew she was a virgin. He answered they don't lie about things like that.
Who said that Mohamed is a prophet of God? He did.
What makes you think he was right?
He could have been lieing or crazy.
Many non-Muslims, when they think about Islam, picture religious fanatics on camels with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the other. This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades, is totally baseless. First of all, the Holy Qur'an clearly says "Let there be no compulsion in religion".
In addition to this, Islam teaches that a person's faith must be pure and sincere, so it is certainly not something that can be forced on someone. In debunking the myth that Islam was "spread by the sword", the (non-Muslim) historian De Lacy O' Leary wrote: "History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever accepted." (Islam at the Crossroads, London, 1923, p. 8.). It should also be known that Muslims ruled Spain for roughly 800 years. During this time, and up to when they were finally forced out, the non-Muslims there were alive and flourishing. Additionally, Christian and Jewish minorities have survived in the Muslim lands of the Middle East for centuries. Countries such as Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan all have Christian and/or Jewish populations. If Islam taught that all people are supposed to be killed or forced to become Muslims, how did all of these non-Muslims survive for so long in the middle of the Islamic Empire?
Additionally, if one considers the small number of Muslims who initially spread Islam from Spain and Morocco in the West to India and China in the East, one would realize that they were far too few to force people to be members of a religion against their will. Additionally, the great empire and civilization established by the Muslims had great staying power -- its citizens were proud to be part of it. The spread of Islam stands in contrast to the actions of the followers of Christianity, who since the time of the Emperor Constantine have made liberal use of the sword - often basing their conduct on Biblical verses. This was especially true of the colonization of South America and Africa, where native peoples were systematically wiped-out or forced to convert. It is also interesting to note that when the Mongols invaded and conquered large portions of the Islamic Empire, instead of destroying the religion, they adopted it. This is a unique occurrence in history - the conquerors adopting the religion of the conquered! Since they were the victors, they certainly could not have been forced to become Muslims! Ask any of the over 1.8 billion Muslims alive in the world today whether they were forced! The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia --- and there were never any battles fought there! So where was the sword? How could someone be forced to adhere to a spiritually rewarding and demanding religion like Islam?
Islam is the fastest growing religion and
the second largest religion in the world
Muslims in Asia (1996) 1,022,692,000 (30%)
Muslims in Africa (1996) 426,282,000 (59%)
Total Number of Muslims on the Earth (1996) 1,482,596,925
Total Number of People on the Earth (1996) 5,771,939,007
Percentage of Muslims (1996) 26%
Islam annual growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 6.40%
Christianity growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 1.46%
Total Number of Muslims on the Earth (1998) 1,678,442,000
Expected Number of Muslims on the Earth (2000) 1,902,095,000
This table below shows the growth of Islam:
North America (1989-1998) 25%
Africa 2.15%
Asia 12.57%
Europe 142.35%
Latin America -4.73%
Australia 257.01%
Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim. Muslims have increased by over 235 percent in the last fifty years up to nearly 1.6 billion. By comparison, Christians have increased by only 47 percent, Hinduism, 117 percent, and Buddhism by 63 percent. Islam is the second largest religious group in France, Great Britain and USA (Muslims in USA are 10 millions and Jews are 6 millions).
USA '96
140.0 million Christians
010.0 million Muslims
004.3 million Jews
USA by denomination in millions (1996)
59.0 Roman Catholic
15.3 Southern Baptist
10.0 Muslims
08.7 United Methodist
08.2 National Baptist USA
05.5 Church of God in Christ
05.2 Evangelical Lutheran USA
04.4 Mormon
03.7 Presbyterian Church USA
03.5 African Methodist Episcopal Church
02.6 Lutheran Church of Missouri
02.4 Episcopal Church
02.2 Assemblies of God
02.0 United Synagogue of America (Conservative Jews)
01.5 American Baptist
01.5 Baptist Bible Fellowship International
01.5 Greek Orthodox
01.3 United American Hebrew Congregation (Reform Jews)
01.2 African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
01.0 United Orthodox Jewish Congregation of America (Orthodox Jews)
01.0 Disciples of Christ
The Worlds Major Religions Changes
In the last half century...
Confucianism & Taoism decrease 13%
350,600,000
305,000,000
Judaism decrease 4%
15,630,000
15,000,000
Christianity increase 47%
682,400,000
1,000,000,000
Eastern Orthodox decrease 36%
144,000,000
092,000,000
Protestant increase 57%
206,900,000
324,000,000
Catholic increase 70%
331,500,000
565,000,000
Buddhism increase 63%
150,180,000
245,000,000
Hinduism increase 117%
230,150,000
500,000,000
Shintoism increase 152%
25,000,000
63,000,000
Islam increase 235%
209,020,000
700,000,000
Growth rates taken between
World Almanac and Book of Facts, 1935
and
Readers Digest Almanac and Yearbook 1983
This report includes all the countries of the world and shows how many Muslims are in each one.
Country Name Total Population Muslims Percentage Number of Muslims
Afghanistan 22,664,136 100% 22,664,136
Albania 3,249,136 75% 2,436,852
Algeria 29,183,032 99% 28,891,202
Angola 10,342,899 25% 2,585,725
Antigua and Barbuda 65,647 n/a
Argentina 34,672,997 2 693,460
Aruba 67,794 5 3,390
Australia 18,260,863 2.09 382,000
Azerbaijan 7,676,953 93.4 7,170,274
Bahrain 590,042 100 590,042
Benin 5,709,529 15 856,429
Bangladesh 123,062,800 85 104,603,380
Bhutan 1,822,625 5 91,131
Bosnia and Herzegovina 2,656,240 40 1,062,496
Botswana 1,477,630 5 73,882
Brazil 162,661,214 0.6 1,000,000
Brunei 299,939 63 188,962
Bulgaria 8,612,757 14 1,205,786
Burkina Faso 10,623,323 50 5,311,662
Burma 45,975,625 10 4,597,563
Burundi 5,943,057 20 1,188,611
Cambodia 10,861,218 1 108,612
Cameroon 14,261,557 55 7,843,856
Canada 28,820,671 1.48 400,000
Central African Republic 3,274,426 55 1,800,934
Chad 6,976,845 85 5,930,318
China 1,210,004,956 11 133,100,545
Christmas Island 813 10 81
Cocos (Keeling) Island 609 57 347
Comoros 569,237 86 489,544
Congo 2,527,841 15 379,176
Cote d'Ivoire 14,762,445 60 8,857,467
Croatia 5,004,112 1.2 60,049
Cyprus 744,609 33 245,721
Djibouti 427,642 94 401,983
Egypt 63,575,107 94 59,760,601
Equatorial Guinea 431,282 25 107,821
Eritrea 3,427,883 80 2,742,306
Ethiopia 57,171,662 65 37,161,580
Fiji 782,381 11 86,062
France 58,317,450 7 4,082,222
Gabon 1,172,798 1 11,728
Gambia 1,204,984 90 1,084,486
Gaza Strip 923,940 98.7 911,929
Georgia 5,219,810 11 574,179
Germany 83,536,115 3.4 2,840,228
Ghana 17,698,271 30 5,309,481
Gibraltar 28,765 8 2,301
Greece 10,538,594 1.5 158,079
Guinea 7,411,981 95 7,041,382
Guinea-Bissau 1,151,330 70 805,931
Guyana 712,091 15 106,814
Hong Kong 6,305,413 1 63,054
India 952,107,694 14 133,295,077
Indonesia 206,611,600 95 196,281,020
Iran 66,094,264 99 65,433,321
Iraq 21,422,292 97 20,779,623
Israel 5,421,995 14 759,079
Italy 57,460,274 1 574,603
Japan 125,449,703 1 1,254,497
Jordan 4,212,152 95 4,001,544
Kazakstan 16,916,463 51.2 8,661,229
Kenya 28,176,686 29.5 8,312,122
Kuwait 1,950,047 89 1,735,542
Kyrgyzstan 4,529,648 76.1 3,447,062
Lebanon 3,776,317 70 2,643,422
Liberia 2,109,789 30 632,937
Libya 5,445,436 100 5,445,436
Lesotho 1,970,781 10 197,078
Macedonia 2,104,035 30 631,211
Madagascar 13,670,507 20 2,734,101
Malawi 9,452,844 35 3,308,495
Malaysia 19,962,893 52 10,380,704
Maldives 270,758 100 270,758
Mali 9,653,261 90 8,687,935
Malta 375,576 14 52,581
Mauritania 2,336,048 100 2,336,048
Mauritius 1,140,256 19.5 222,350
Mayotte 100,838 99 99,830
Mongolia 2,496,617 4 99,865
Morocco 29,779,156 98.7 29,392,027
Mozambique 17,877,927 29 5,184,599
Namibia 1,677,243 5 83,862
Nepal 22,094,033 4 883,761
Netherlands 15,568,034 3 467,041
Niger 9,113,001 91 8,292,831
Nigeria 103,912,489 75 77,934,367
Norway 4,438,547 1.5 66,578
Oman 2,186,548 100 2,186,548
Pakistan 129,275,660 97 125,397,390
Panama 2,655,094 4 106,204
Philippines 74,480,848 14 10,427,319
Qatar 547,761 100 547,761
Reunion 679,198 20 135,840
Romania 21,657,162 20 4,331,432
Russia 148,178,487 18 26,672,127
Rwanda 6,853,359 1 68,534
Saudi Arabia 19,409,058 100 19,409,058
Senegal 9,092,749 95 8,638,112
Serbia and Montenegro 10,614,558 19 2,016,766
Sierra Leone 4,793,121 65 3,115,529
Singapore 3,396,924 17 577,477
Slovenia 1,951,443 1 19,514
Somalia 9,639,151 100 9,639,151
South Africa 41,743,459 2 834,869
Sri Lanka 18,553,074 9 1,669,777
Sudan 31,547,543 85 26,815,412
Suriname 436,418 25 109,105
Swaziland 998,730 10 99,873
Sweden 9,800,000 3.6 320,000
Syria 15,608,648 90 14,047,783
Tajikistan 5,916,373 85 5,028,917
Tanzania 29,058,470 65 18,888,006
Thailand 58,851,357 14 8,239,190
Togo 4,570,530 55 2,513,792
Trinidad and Tobago 1,272,385 12 152,686
Tunisia 9,019,687 98 8,839,293
Turkey 62,484,478 99.8 62,359,509
Turkmenistan 4,149,283 87 3,609,876
Uganda 20,158,176 36 7,256,943
United Arab Emirates 3,057,337 96 2,935,044
United Kingdom 58,489,975 2.7 1,579,229
United States 266,476,278 3.75 9,992,860
Uzbekistan 23,418,381 88 20,608,175
West Bank 1,427,741 75 1,070,806
Western Sahara 222,631 100 222,631
Yemen 13,483,178 99 13,348,346
Zaire 46,498,539 10 4,649,854
Zambia 9,159,072 15 1,373,861
Zimbabwe 11,271,314 15 1,690,697
Muslims Population
http://islamicweb.com/begin/muslims_population.gif
QUOTE (TracerTong+Nov 29 2009, 07:32 PM)
Isaac was chosen over Ishmael.
Allaah says:
Al-Baqara
And (remember) when his Lord tried Abraham with (His) commands, and he fulfilled them, He said: Lo! I have appointed thee a leader for mankind. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring (will there be leaders)? He said: My covenant includeth not wrong-doers. (124) And when We made the House (at Mecca) a resort for mankind and sanctuary, (saying): Take as your place of worship the place where Abraham stood (to pray). And We imposed a duty upon Abraham and Ishmael, (saying): Purify My house for those who go around and those who meditate therein and those who bow down and prostrate themselves (in worship). (125) And when Abraham prayed: My Lord! Make this a region of security and bestow upon its people fruits, such of them as believe in Allah and the Last Day, He answered: As for him who disbelieveth, I shall leave him in contentment for a while, then I shall compel him to the doom of Fire - a hapless journey's end! (126) And when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of the House, (Abraham prayed): Our Lord! Accept from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower. (127) Our Lord! And make us submissive unto Thee and of our seed a nation submissive unto Thee, and show us our ways of worship, and relent toward us. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Relenting, the Merciful. (128) Our Lord! And raise up in their midst a messenger from among them who shall recite unto them Thy revelations, and shall instruct them in the Scripture and in wisdom and shall make them grow. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Mighty, Wise. (129) And who forsaketh the religion of Abraham save him who befooleth himself? Verily We chose him in the world, and lo! in the Hereafter he is among the righteous. (130) When his Lord said unto him: Surrender! he said: I have surrendered to the Lord of the Worlds. (131) The same did Abraham enjoin upon his sons, and also Jacob, (saying): O my sons! Lo! Allah hath chosen for you the (true) religion; therefore die not save as men who have surrendered (unto Him). (132) Or were ye present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons: What will ye worship after me? They said: We shall worship thy God, the God of thy fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, One God, and unto Him we have surrendered. (133) Those are a people who have passed away. Theirs is that which they earned, and yours is that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do. (134) And they say: Be Jews or Christians, then ye will be rightly guided. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Nay, but (we follow) the religion of Abraham, the upright, and he was not of the idolaters. (135) Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (136) And if they believe in the like of that which ye believe, then are they rightly guided. But if they turn away, then are they in schism, and Allah will suffice thee (for defence) against them. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (137) (We take our) colour from Allah, and who is better than Allah at colouring. We are His worshippers. (138) Say (unto the People of the Scripture): Dispute ye with us concerning Allah when He is our Lord and your Lord? Ours are our works and yours your works. We look to Him alone. (139) Or say ye that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know best, or doth Allah? And who is more unjust than he who hideth a testimony which he hath received from Allah? Allah is not unaware of what ye do. (140)
Allaah says:
Al-E-Imran
Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). (64) O People of the Scripture! Why will ye argue about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Have ye then no sense? (65) Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge? Allah knoweth. Ye know not. (66) Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters. (67)
Allaah says:
An-Nisa
Lo! We inspire thee as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as We imparted unto David the Psalms; (163) And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses; (164) Messengers of good cheer and of warning, in order that mankind might have no argument against Allah after the messengers. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. (165) But Allah (Himself) testifieth concerning that which He hath revealed unto thee; in His knowledge hath He revealed it; and the Angels also testify. And Allah is sufficient Witness. (166) Lo! those who disbelieve and hinder (others) from the way of Allah, they verily have wandered far astray. (167) Lo! those who disbelieve and deal in wrong, Allah will never forgive them, neither will He guide them unto a road, (168) Except the road of hell, wherein they will abide for ever. And that is ever easy for Allah. (169) O mankind! The messenger hath come unto you with the Truth from your Lord. Therefor believe; (it is) better for you. But if ye disbelieve, still, lo! unto Allah belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth. Allah is ever Knower, Wise. (170) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender. (171) The Messiah will never scorn to be a slave unto Allah, nor will the favoured angels. Whoso scorneth His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him; (172) Then, as for those who believed and did good works, unto them will He pay their wages in full, adding unto them of His bounty; and as for those who were scornful and proud, them will He punish with a painful doom. And they will not find for them, against Allah, any protecting friend or helper. (173) O mankind! Now hath a proof from your Lord come unto you, and We have sent down unto you a clear light; (174) As for those who
Allaah says:
Ibrahim
And when Abraham said: My Lord! Make safe this territory, and preserve me and my sons from serving idols. (35) My Lord! Lo! they have led many of mankind astray. But whoso followeth me, he verily is of me. And whoso disobeyeth me - Still Thou art Forgiving, Merciful. (36) Our Lord! Lo! I have settled some of my posterity in an uncultivable valley near unto Thy holy House, our Lord! that they may establish proper worship; so incline some hearts of men that they may yearn toward them, and provide Thou them with fruits in order that they may be thankful. (37) Our Lord! Lo! Thou knowest that which we hide and that which we proclaim. Nothing in the earth or in the heaven is hidden from Allah. (38) Praise be to Allah Who hath given me, in my old age, Ishmael and Isaac! Lo! my Lord is indeed the Hearer of Prayer. (39) My Lord! Make me to establish proper worship, and some of my posterity (also); our Lord! and accept my prayer. (40) Our Lord! Forgive me and my parents and believers on the day when the account is cast. (41) Deem not that Allah is unaware of what the wicked do. He but giveth them a respite till a day when eyes will stare (in terror), (42) As they come hurrying on in fear, their heads upraised, their gaze returning not to them, and their hearts as air. (43) And warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them, and those who did wrong will say: Our Lord! Reprieve us for a little while. We will obey Thy call and will follow the messengers. (It will be answered): Did ye not swear before that there would be no end for you? (44) And (have ye not) dwelt in the dwellings of those who wronged themselves (of old) and (hath it not) become plain to you how We dealt with them and made examples for you? (45) Verily they have plotted their plot, and their plot is with Allah, though their plot were such whereby the mountains should be moved. (46) So think not that Allah will fail to keep His promise to His messengers. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Able to Requite (the wrong). (47) On the day when the earth will be changed to other than the earth, and the heavens (also will be changed) and they will come forth unto Allah, the One, the Almighty, (48) Thou wilt see the guilty on that day linked together in chains, (49) Their raiment of pitch, and the Fire covering their faces, (50) That Allah may repay each soul what it hath earned. Lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. (51) This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that men of understanding may take heed. (52)
Allaah says:
Al-Baqara
And (remember) when his Lord tried Abraham with (His) commands, and he fulfilled them, He said: Lo! I have appointed thee a leader for mankind. (Abraham) said: And of my offspring (will there be leaders)? He said: My covenant includeth not wrong-doers. (124) And when We made the House (at Mecca) a resort for mankind and sanctuary, (saying): Take as your place of worship the place where Abraham stood (to pray). And We imposed a duty upon Abraham and Ishmael, (saying): Purify My house for those who go around and those who meditate therein and those who bow down and prostrate themselves (in worship). (125) And when Abraham prayed: My Lord! Make this a region of security and bestow upon its people fruits, such of them as believe in Allah and the Last Day, He answered: As for him who disbelieveth, I shall leave him in contentment for a while, then I shall compel him to the doom of Fire - a hapless journey's end! (126) And when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of the House, (Abraham prayed): Our Lord! Accept from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower. (127) Our Lord! And make us submissive unto Thee and of our seed a nation submissive unto Thee, and show us our ways of worship, and relent toward us. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Relenting, the Merciful. (128) Our Lord! And raise up in their midst a messenger from among them who shall recite unto them Thy revelations, and shall instruct them in the Scripture and in wisdom and shall make them grow. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Mighty, Wise. (129) And who forsaketh the religion of Abraham save him who befooleth himself? Verily We chose him in the world, and lo! in the Hereafter he is among the righteous. (130) When his Lord said unto him: Surrender! he said: I have surrendered to the Lord of the Worlds. (131) The same did Abraham enjoin upon his sons, and also Jacob, (saying): O my sons! Lo! Allah hath chosen for you the (true) religion; therefore die not save as men who have surrendered (unto Him). (132) Or were ye present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons: What will ye worship after me? They said: We shall worship thy God, the God of thy fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, One God, and unto Him we have surrendered. (133) Those are a people who have passed away. Theirs is that which they earned, and yours is that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do. (134) And they say: Be Jews or Christians, then ye will be rightly guided. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Nay, but (we follow) the religion of Abraham, the upright, and he was not of the idolaters. (135) Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (136) And if they believe in the like of that which ye believe, then are they rightly guided. But if they turn away, then are they in schism, and Allah will suffice thee (for defence) against them. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (137) (We take our) colour from Allah, and who is better than Allah at colouring. We are His worshippers. (138) Say (unto the People of the Scripture): Dispute ye with us concerning Allah when He is our Lord and your Lord? Ours are our works and yours your works. We look to Him alone. (139) Or say ye that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know best, or doth Allah? And who is more unjust than he who hideth a testimony which he hath received from Allah? Allah is not unaware of what ye do. (140)
Allaah says:
Al-E-Imran
Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him). (64) O People of the Scripture! Why will ye argue about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Have ye then no sense? (65) Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge? Allah knoweth. Ye know not. (66) Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters. (67)
Allaah says:
An-Nisa
Lo! We inspire thee as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as We imparted unto David the Psalms; (163) And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses; (164) Messengers of good cheer and of warning, in order that mankind might have no argument against Allah after the messengers. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. (165) But Allah (Himself) testifieth concerning that which He hath revealed unto thee; in His knowledge hath He revealed it; and the Angels also testify. And Allah is sufficient Witness. (166) Lo! those who disbelieve and hinder (others) from the way of Allah, they verily have wandered far astray. (167) Lo! those who disbelieve and deal in wrong, Allah will never forgive them, neither will He guide them unto a road, (168) Except the road of hell, wherein they will abide for ever. And that is ever easy for Allah. (169) O mankind! The messenger hath come unto you with the Truth from your Lord. Therefor believe; (it is) better for you. But if ye disbelieve, still, lo! unto Allah belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth. Allah is ever Knower, Wise. (170) O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender. (171) The Messiah will never scorn to be a slave unto Allah, nor will the favoured angels. Whoso scorneth His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him; (172) Then, as for those who believed and did good works, unto them will He pay their wages in full, adding unto them of His bounty; and as for those who were scornful and proud, them will He punish with a painful doom. And they will not find for them, against Allah, any protecting friend or helper. (173) O mankind! Now hath a proof from your Lord come unto you, and We have sent down unto you a clear light; (174) As for those who
Allaah says:
Ibrahim
And when Abraham said: My Lord! Make safe this territory, and preserve me and my sons from serving idols. (35) My Lord! Lo! they have led many of mankind astray. But whoso followeth me, he verily is of me. And whoso disobeyeth me - Still Thou art Forgiving, Merciful. (36) Our Lord! Lo! I have settled some of my posterity in an uncultivable valley near unto Thy holy House, our Lord! that they may establish proper worship; so incline some hearts of men that they may yearn toward them, and provide Thou them with fruits in order that they may be thankful. (37) Our Lord! Lo! Thou knowest that which we hide and that which we proclaim. Nothing in the earth or in the heaven is hidden from Allah. (38) Praise be to Allah Who hath given me, in my old age, Ishmael and Isaac! Lo! my Lord is indeed the Hearer of Prayer. (39) My Lord! Make me to establish proper worship, and some of my posterity (also); our Lord! and accept my prayer. (40) Our Lord! Forgive me and my parents and believers on the day when the account is cast. (41) Deem not that Allah is unaware of what the wicked do. He but giveth them a respite till a day when eyes will stare (in terror), (42) As they come hurrying on in fear, their heads upraised, their gaze returning not to them, and their hearts as air. (43) And warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them, and those who did wrong will say: Our Lord! Reprieve us for a little while. We will obey Thy call and will follow the messengers. (It will be answered): Did ye not swear before that there would be no end for you? (44) And (have ye not) dwelt in the dwellings of those who wronged themselves (of old) and (hath it not) become plain to you how We dealt with them and made examples for you? (45) Verily they have plotted their plot, and their plot is with Allah, though their plot were such whereby the mountains should be moved. (46) So think not that Allah will fail to keep His promise to His messengers. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Able to Requite (the wrong). (47) On the day when the earth will be changed to other than the earth, and the heavens (also will be changed) and they will come forth unto Allah, the One, the Almighty, (48) Thou wilt see the guilty on that day linked together in chains, (49) Their raiment of pitch, and the Fire covering their faces, (50) That Allah may repay each soul what it hath earned. Lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. (51) This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that men of understanding may take heed. (52)
Be ashamed.
Not a handful of people here, or anywhere else, care about your religious crap. Get your prescription refilled.
Not even your own devout imams would accept what you have done here as the act of a muslim.
Remind us about what that signifies, please?
Not a handful of people here, or anywhere else, care about your religious crap. Get your prescription refilled.
Not even your own devout imams would accept what you have done here as the act of a muslim.
Remind us about what that signifies, please?
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 1 2009, 12:00 AM)
and would like to answer by quoting a number of aayaat (verses) from the Book of Allaah (the Qur’aan – the scripture of Islam), then you can think to yourself about the matter and if the truth becomes clear to you,
Allaah says:
And those who have no knowledge say: Why doth not Allah speak unto us, or some sign come unto us? Even thus, as they now speak, spake those (who were) before them. Their hearts are all alike. We have made clear the revelations for people who are sure. (118) Lo! We have sent thee (O Muhammad) with the truth, a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire. (119)
Allaah didn't say that to you directly, did he?
He certainly didn't say anything to me.
how do you know that Allaah said any of those things?
It could have all been made up.
there was an episode of Happy Days where the Fonz met a new girl that said she was a virgin. Someone asked how he knew she was a virgin. He answered they don't lie about things like that.
Who said that Mohamed is a prophet of God? He did.
What makes you think he was right?
He could have been lieing or crazy.
You said that Indonesia is the largest Muslim country and it lives in peace. You said Islam accepts other religions.
Bali is in Indonesia. Bali is Hindu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
Is Jemaah Islamyyah not Muslim?
And this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...4150348256.html
Is Jemaah Islamyyah not Muslim?
And this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...4150348256.html
Religious targets
In the main northern city of Mosul, a church and a convent were bombed, with both targets severely damaged but without any casualties, religious leaders said on Thursday.
One of the attacks hit the Saint Theresa Convent of Dominican nuns in the western Jadida (New Mosul) district, Father Yousif Thomas Mirkis, the chief representative of the Dominican order in Iraq, said.
"These attacks are aimed at forcing Christians to leave the country," he told the AFP news agency, noting that the bomb had been placed inside the convent grounds and caused damage to the building.
And more from Al Jazeera:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...1548306368.html
That's just from today.
Im not going to bother linking how Saddam, a Sunni, treat his Shea people?
Christians or Muslims, Klu Klux Klan or beheadings on the internet. There is no difference.
Many non-Muslims, when they think about Islam, picture religious fanatics on camels with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the other. This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades, is totally baseless. First of all, the Holy Qur'an clearly says "Let there be no compulsion in religion".
In addition to this, Islam teaches that a person's faith must be pure and sincere, so it is certainly not something that can be forced on someone. In debunking the myth that Islam was "spread by the sword", the (non-Muslim) historian De Lacy O' Leary wrote: "History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever accepted." (Islam at the Crossroads, London, 1923, p. 8.). It should also be known that Muslims ruled Spain for roughly 800 years. During this time, and up to when they were finally forced out, the non-Muslims there were alive and flourishing. Additionally, Christian and Jewish minorities have survived in the Muslim lands of the Middle East for centuries. Countries such as Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan all have Christian and/or Jewish populations. If Islam taught that all people are supposed to be killed or forced to become Muslims, how did all of these non-Muslims survive for so long in the middle of the Islamic Empire?
Atrocities on minorities in Pakistan
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sikhs-flee-pak-...nt/91576-2.html
Atrocities on minorities in Bangladesh
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1645499.stm
Atrocities on minorities in Kashmir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmiri_Pandit
And now we hear from your fellow Muslim AAA123:
And now we hear from your fellow Muslim AAA123:
1) Battle of Badr
2) Battle of Uhud
3) Battle of the Trench
Those are the sword-swinging battles that established Islam in Arabia.
Take a lesson from American movies. The first thing criminals say to each other when they are about to get caught is "Let's get our stories straight."
how do you know that Allaah said any of those things?
The fact I do not know how many times I will answer to this question!!!???
Because this Speech prodigious
they could not produce the like thereof
Allaah says:
Al-Isra
Say: Verily, though mankind and the jinn should assemble to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof though they were helpers one of another. (88) And verily We have displayed for mankind in this Qur'an all kinds of similitudes, but most of mankind refuse aught save disbelief. (89)
Allaah says:
Hud
Or they say: He hath invented it. Say: Then bring ten surahs, the like thereof, invented, and call on everyone ye can beside Allah, if ye are truthful! (13) And if they answer not your prayer, then know that it is revealed only in the knowledge of Allah; and that there is no God save Him. Will ye then be (of) those who surrender? (14)
Allaah says:
Al-Baqara
And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful. (23) And if ye do it not - and ye can never do it - then guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones. (24) And give glad tidings (O Muhammad) unto those who believe and do good works; that theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow; as often as they are regaled with food of the fruit thereof, they say: this is what was given us aforetime; and it is given to them in resemblance. There for them are pure companions; there for ever they abide. (25)
Muhammad - Prophet of Islam
http://www.prophetofislam.com/
Bali is in Indonesia. Bali is Hindu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
QUOTE
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack was the deadliest act of terrorism in the history of Indonesia, killing 202 people, 152 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 240 people were injured.
Various members of Jemaah Islamiyah, a violent Islamist group, were convicted in relation to the bombings, including three individuals who were sentenced to death.
Various members of Jemaah Islamiyah, a violent Islamist group, were convicted in relation to the bombings, including three individuals who were sentenced to death.
Is Jemaah Islamyyah not Muslim?
And this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...4150348256.html
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack was the deadliest act of terrorism in the history of Indonesia, killing 202 people, 152 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 240 people were injured. Various members of Jemaah Islamiyah, a violent Islamist group, were convicted in relation to the bombings, including three individuals who were sentenced to death. |
Is Jemaah Islamyyah not Muslim?
And this:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...4150348256.html
Religious targets
In the main northern city of Mosul, a church and a convent were bombed, with both targets severely damaged but without any casualties, religious leaders said on Thursday.
One of the attacks hit the Saint Theresa Convent of Dominican nuns in the western Jadida (New Mosul) district, Father Yousif Thomas Mirkis, the chief representative of the Dominican order in Iraq, said.
"These attacks are aimed at forcing Christians to leave the country," he told the AFP news agency, noting that the bomb had been placed inside the convent grounds and caused damage to the building.
And more from Al Jazeera:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleea...1548306368.html
QUOTE
Saudi Arabia says its forces have seized control of a strategic mountain along the border with Yemen in the kingdom's ongoing fight against Yemen's Houthi rebels.
That's just from today.
Im not going to bother linking how Saddam, a Sunni, treat his Shea people?
Christians or Muslims, Klu Klux Klan or beheadings on the internet. There is no difference.
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 1 2009, 05:36 AM)
Many non-Muslims, when they think about Islam, picture religious fanatics on camels with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the other. This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades, is totally baseless. First of all, the Holy Qur'an clearly says "Let there be no compulsion in religion".
In addition to this, Islam teaches that a person's faith must be pure and sincere, so it is certainly not something that can be forced on someone. In debunking the myth that Islam was "spread by the sword", the (non-Muslim) historian De Lacy O' Leary wrote: "History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever accepted." (Islam at the Crossroads, London, 1923, p. 8.). It should also be known that Muslims ruled Spain for roughly 800 years. During this time, and up to when they were finally forced out, the non-Muslims there were alive and flourishing. Additionally, Christian and Jewish minorities have survived in the Muslim lands of the Middle East for centuries. Countries such as Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan all have Christian and/or Jewish populations. If Islam taught that all people are supposed to be killed or forced to become Muslims, how did all of these non-Muslims survive for so long in the middle of the Islamic Empire?
Atrocities on minorities in Pakistan
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/sikhs-flee-pak-...nt/91576-2.html
Atrocities on minorities in Bangladesh
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1645499.stm
Atrocities on minorities in Kashmir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmiri_Pandit
ahmd, please enlighten us regarding your views on honor killings in Islam -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing
QUOTE (ahmd+Nov 30 2009, 03:06 PM)
Islam increase 235%
209,020,000
700,000,000
Since the Koran has several warnings about evangelism and actively converting non-Muslims then your chest-thumping about Islam's growth can only be attributed to birth rates amongst Muslims.
Which means that Muslim men are the horniest men on the planet. Is this why they demand that their women cover their bodies with clothes? Is it because they know that if a Muslim man catches sight of a bare ankle that he'll get an uncontrollable erection? Really? ... you guys get hard-ons from seeing a swatch of hair and/or a couple of square inches of ankle skin?
I can only conclude that is the case .... since your average Muslim man takes care of erections in the same way as non-Muslims (either with his wife or via masturbation) and that since many men don't have wives, that the shame of male masturbation is the real reason that women have to cover themselves. Isn't that a little unfair to women? Muslim men can't keep from spilling their seed and Muslim women have to pay the price?
What is wrong with you horny bastards? Learn to go into the bathroom and rub one out without feeling shame. Allah gave you a penis and modern medicine tells us that if you don't use it you lose it. Seriously, it needs exercise. Quit being so ashamed of jerking off. You all are scared of your penises ... aren't you? It terrifies you?
And quit making so many women pregnant. You might find that when you allow women to act like real people that your pathetic ineffectual economies will actually improve. Here's a suggestion ... try giving it to them in the arse. If you're slow and gentle about it more often than not they'll love it.
It's the 21st century. Bring your repressed selves into it.
209,020,000
700,000,000
Since the Koran has several warnings about evangelism and actively converting non-Muslims then your chest-thumping about Islam's growth can only be attributed to birth rates amongst Muslims.
Which means that Muslim men are the horniest men on the planet. Is this why they demand that their women cover their bodies with clothes? Is it because they know that if a Muslim man catches sight of a bare ankle that he'll get an uncontrollable erection? Really? ... you guys get hard-ons from seeing a swatch of hair and/or a couple of square inches of ankle skin?
I can only conclude that is the case .... since your average Muslim man takes care of erections in the same way as non-Muslims (either with his wife or via masturbation) and that since many men don't have wives, that the shame of male masturbation is the real reason that women have to cover themselves. Isn't that a little unfair to women? Muslim men can't keep from spilling their seed and Muslim women have to pay the price?
What is wrong with you horny bastards? Learn to go into the bathroom and rub one out without feeling shame. Allah gave you a penis and modern medicine tells us that if you don't use it you lose it. Seriously, it needs exercise. Quit being so ashamed of jerking off. You all are scared of your penises ... aren't you? It terrifies you?
And quit making so many women pregnant. You might find that when you allow women to act like real people that your pathetic ineffectual economies will actually improve. Here's a suggestion ... try giving it to them in the arse. If you're slow and gentle about it more often than not they'll love it.
It's the 21st century. Bring your repressed selves into it.
QUOTE
Many non-Muslims, when they think about Islam, picture religious fanatics on camels with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the other. This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades, is totally baseless. First of all, the Holy Qur'an clearly says "Let there be no compulsion in religion".
And now we hear from your fellow Muslim AAA123:
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Many non-Muslims, when they think about Islam, picture religious fanatics on camels with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the other. This myth, which was made popular in Europe during the Crusades, is totally baseless. First of all, the Holy Qur'an clearly says "Let there be no compulsion in religion". |
And now we hear from your fellow Muslim AAA123:
1) Battle of Badr
2) Battle of Uhud
3) Battle of the Trench
Those are the sword-swinging battles that established Islam in Arabia.
Take a lesson from American movies. The first thing criminals say to each other when they are about to get caught is "Let's get our stories straight."
QUOTE (buttershug+Dec 1 2009, 12:32 AM)
how do you know that Allaah said any of those things?
The fact I do not know how many times I will answer to this question!!!???
Because this Speech prodigious
they could not produce the like thereof
Allaah says:
Al-Isra
Say: Verily, though mankind and the jinn should assemble to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof though they were helpers one of another. (88) And verily We have displayed for mankind in this Qur'an all kinds of similitudes, but most of mankind refuse aught save disbelief. (89)
Allaah says:
Hud
Or they say: He hath invented it. Say: Then bring ten surahs, the like thereof, invented, and call on everyone ye can beside Allah, if ye are truthful! (13) And if they answer not your prayer, then know that it is revealed only in the knowledge of Allah; and that there is no God save Him. Will ye then be (of) those who surrender? (14)
Allaah says:
Al-Baqara
And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful. (23) And if ye do it not - and ye can never do it - then guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is of men and stones. (24) And give glad tidings (O Muhammad) unto those who believe and do good works; that theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow; as often as they are regaled with food of the fruit thereof, they say: this is what was given us aforetime; and it is given to them in resemblance. There for them are pure companions; there for ever they abide. (25)
Muhammad - Prophet of Islam
http://www.prophetofislam.com/
Allah said:
An-Nisa
O ye who believe! Squander not your wealth among yourselves in vanity, except it be a trade by mutual consent, and kill not one another. Lo! Allah is ever Merciful unto you. (29) Whoso doeth that through aggression and injustice, we shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah. (30)
Allah said:
Al-Maeda
But recite unto them with truth the tale of the two sons of Adam, how they offered each a sacrifice, and it was accepted from the one of them and it was not accepted from the other. (The one) said: I will surely kill thee. (The other) answered: Allah accepteth only from those who ward off (evil). (27) Even if thou stretch out thy hand against me to kill me, I shall not stretch out my hand against thee to kill thee, lo! I fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds. (28) Lo! I would rather thou shouldst bear the punishment of the sin against me and thine own sin and become one of the owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers. (29) But (the other's) mind imposed on him the killing of his brother, so he slew him and became one of the losers. (30) Then Allah sent a raven scratching up the ground, to show him how to hide his brother's naked corpse. He said: Woe unto me! Am I not able to be as this raven and so hide my brother's naked corpse? And he became repentant. (31) For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. (32)
Allah said:
Al-Anaam
Say: Come, I will recite unto you that which your Lord hath forbidden to you: that ye ascribe no thing as partner unto Him and that ye do good to parents, and that ye slay not your children because of penury - We provide for you and for them - and that ye draw not nigh to lewd things whether open or concealed. And that ye slay not the life which Allah hath made sacred, save in the course of justice. This He hath command you, in order that ye may discern. (151) And approach not the wealth of the orphan save with that which is better, till he reach maturity. Give full measure and full weight, in justice. We task not any soul beyond its scope. And if ye give your word, do justice thereunto, even though it be (against) a kinsman; and fulfil the covenant of Allah. This He commandeth you that haply ye may remember. (152) And (He commandeth you, saying): This is My straight path, so follow it. Follow not other ways, lest ye be parted from His way. This hath He ordained for you, that ye may ward off (evil). (153)
Allah said:
Al-Isra
Set not up with Allah any other god (O man) lest thou sit down reproved, forsaken. (22) Thy Lord hath decreed, that ye worship none save Him, and (that ye show) kindness to parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age with thee, say not "Fie" unto them nor repulse them, but speak unto them a gracious word. (23) And lower unto them the wing of submission through mercy, and say: My Lord! Have mercy on them both as they did care for me when I was little. (24) Your Lord is best aware of what is in your minds. If ye are righteous, then lo! He was ever Forgiving unto those who turn (unto Him). (25) Give the kinsman his due, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and squander not (thy wealth) in wantonness. (26) Lo! the squanderers were ever brothers of the devils, and the devil was ever an ingrate to his Lord. (27) But if thou turn away from them, seeking mercy from thy Lord, for which thou hopest, then speak unto them a reasonable word. (28) And let not thy hand be chained to thy neck nor open it with a complete opening, lest thou sit down rebuked, denuded. (29) Lo! thy Lord enlargeth the provision for whom He will, and straiteneth (it for whom He will). Lo, He was ever Knower, Seer of His slaves. (30) Slay not your children, fearing a fall to poverty, We shall provide for them and for you. Lo! the slaying of them is great sin. (31) And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way. (32) And slay not the life which Allah hath forbidden save with right. Whoso is slain wrongfully, We have given power unto his heir, but let him not commit excess in slaying. Lo! he will be helped. (33) Come not near the wealth of the orphan save with that which is better till he come to strength; and keep the covenant. Lo! of the covenant it will be asked. (34) Fill the measure when ye measure, and weigh with a right balance; that is meet, and better in the end. (35) (O man), follow not that whereof thou hast no knowledge. Lo! the hearing and the sight and the heart - of each of these it will be asked. (36) And walk not in the earth exultant. Lo! thou canst not rend the earth, nor canst thou stretch to the height of the hills. (37) The evil of all that is hateful in the sight of thy Lord. (38) This is (part) of that wisdom wherewith thy Lord hath inspired thee (O Muhammad). And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell, reproved, abandoned. (39)
Allah said:
Al-Furqan
Blessed be He Who hath placed in the heaven mansions of the stars, and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light! (61) And He it is Who hath appointed night and day in succession, for him who desireth to remember, or desireth thankfulness. (62) The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace; (63) And who spend the night before their Lord, prostrate and standing, (64) And who say: Our Lord! Avert from us the doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish; (65) Lo! it is wretched as abode and station; (66) And those who, when they spend, are neither prodigal nor grudging; and there is ever a firm station between the two; (67) And those who cry not unto any other god along with Allah, nor take the life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, nor commit adultery - and whoso doeth this shall pay the penalty; (68) The doom will be doubled for him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein disdained for ever; (69) Save him who repenteth and believeth and doth righteous work; as for such, Allah will change their evil deeds to good deeds. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. (70) And whosoever repenteth and doeth good, he verily repenteth toward Allah with true repentance - (71) And those who will not witness vanity, but when they pass near senseless play, pass by with dignity. (72) And those who, when they are reminded of the revelations of their Lord, fall not deaf and blind thereat. (73) And who say: Our Lord! Vouchsafe us comfort of our wives and of our offspring, and make us patterns for (all) those who ward off (evil). (74) They will be awarded the high place forasmuch as they were steadfast, and they will meet therein with welcome and the ward of peace, (75) Abiding there for ever. Happy is it as abode and station! (76) Say (O Muhammad, unto the disbelievers): My Lord would not concern Himself with you but for your prayer. But now ye have denied (the Truth), therefor there will be judgment. (77)
(((( All these events did not get until after the Western intervention in the region
And dissemination of discord among nations, and dissemination the conflict between these peoples ))))
An-Nisa
O ye who believe! Squander not your wealth among yourselves in vanity, except it be a trade by mutual consent, and kill not one another. Lo! Allah is ever Merciful unto you. (29) Whoso doeth that through aggression and injustice, we shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah. (30)
Allah said:
Al-Maeda
But recite unto them with truth the tale of the two sons of Adam, how they offered each a sacrifice, and it was accepted from the one of them and it was not accepted from the other. (The one) said: I will surely kill thee. (The other) answered: Allah accepteth only from those who ward off (evil). (27) Even if thou stretch out thy hand against me to kill me, I shall not stretch out my hand against thee to kill thee, lo! I fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds. (28) Lo! I would rather thou shouldst bear the punishment of the sin against me and thine own sin and become one of the owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers. (29) But (the other's) mind imposed on him the killing of his brother, so he slew him and became one of the losers. (30) Then Allah sent a raven scratching up the ground, to show him how to hide his brother's naked corpse. He said: Woe unto me! Am I not able to be as this raven and so hide my brother's naked corpse? And he became repentant. (31) For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. (32)
Allah said:
Al-Anaam
Say: Come, I will recite unto you that which your Lord hath forbidden to you: that ye ascribe no thing as partner unto Him and that ye do good to parents, and that ye slay not your children because of penury - We provide for you and for them - and that ye draw not nigh to lewd things whether open or concealed. And that ye slay not the life which Allah hath made sacred, save in the course of justice. This He hath command you, in order that ye may discern. (151) And approach not the wealth of the orphan save with that which is better, till he reach maturity. Give full measure and full weight, in justice. We task not any soul beyond its scope. And if ye give your word, do justice thereunto, even though it be (against) a kinsman; and fulfil the covenant of Allah. This He commandeth you that haply ye may remember. (152) And (He commandeth you, saying): This is My straight path, so follow it. Follow not other ways, lest ye be parted from His way. This hath He ordained for you, that ye may ward off (evil). (153)
Allah said:
Al-Isra
Set not up with Allah any other god (O man) lest thou sit down reproved, forsaken. (22) Thy Lord hath decreed, that ye worship none save Him, and (that ye show) kindness to parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age with thee, say not "Fie" unto them nor repulse them, but speak unto them a gracious word. (23) And lower unto them the wing of submission through mercy, and say: My Lord! Have mercy on them both as they did care for me when I was little. (24) Your Lord is best aware of what is in your minds. If ye are righteous, then lo! He was ever Forgiving unto those who turn (unto Him). (25) Give the kinsman his due, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and squander not (thy wealth) in wantonness. (26) Lo! the squanderers were ever brothers of the devils, and the devil was ever an ingrate to his Lord. (27) But if thou turn away from them, seeking mercy from thy Lord, for which thou hopest, then speak unto them a reasonable word. (28) And let not thy hand be chained to thy neck nor open it with a complete opening, lest thou sit down rebuked, denuded. (29) Lo! thy Lord enlargeth the provision for whom He will, and straiteneth (it for whom He will). Lo, He was ever Knower, Seer of His slaves. (30) Slay not your children, fearing a fall to poverty, We shall provide for them and for you. Lo! the slaying of them is great sin. (31) And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way. (32) And slay not the life which Allah hath forbidden save with right. Whoso is slain wrongfully, We have given power unto his heir, but let him not commit excess in slaying. Lo! he will be helped. (33) Come not near the wealth of the orphan save with that which is better till he come to strength; and keep the covenant. Lo! of the covenant it will be asked. (34) Fill the measure when ye measure, and weigh with a right balance; that is meet, and better in the end. (35) (O man), follow not that whereof thou hast no knowledge. Lo! the hearing and the sight and the heart - of each of these it will be asked. (36) And walk not in the earth exultant. Lo! thou canst not rend the earth, nor canst thou stretch to the height of the hills. (37) The evil of all that is hateful in the sight of thy Lord. (38) This is (part) of that wisdom wherewith thy Lord hath inspired thee (O Muhammad). And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell, reproved, abandoned. (39)
Allah said:
Al-Furqan
Blessed be He Who hath placed in the heaven mansions of the stars, and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon giving light! (61) And He it is Who hath appointed night and day in succession, for him who desireth to remember, or desireth thankfulness. (62) The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace; (63) And who spend the night before their Lord, prostrate and standing, (64) And who say: Our Lord! Avert from us the doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish; (65) Lo! it is wretched as abode and station; (66) And those who, when they spend, are neither prodigal nor grudging; and there is ever a firm station between the two; (67) And those who cry not unto any other god along with Allah, nor take the life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, nor commit adultery - and whoso doeth this shall pay the penalty; (68) The doom will be doubled for him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein disdained for ever; (69) Save him who repenteth and believeth and doth righteous work; as for such, Allah will change their evil deeds to good deeds. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. (70) And whosoever repenteth and doeth good, he verily repenteth toward Allah with true repentance - (71) And those who will not witness vanity, but when they pass near senseless play, pass by with dignity. (72) And those who, when they are reminded of the revelations of their Lord, fall not deaf and blind thereat. (73) And who say: Our Lord! Vouchsafe us comfort of our wives and of our offspring, and make us patterns for (all) those who ward off (evil). (74) They will be awarded the high place forasmuch as they were steadfast, and they will meet therein with welcome and the ward of peace, (75) Abiding there for ever. Happy is it as abode and station! (76) Say (O Muhammad, unto the disbelievers): My Lord would not concern Himself with you but for your prayer. But now ye have denied (the Truth), therefor there will be judgment. (77)
(((( All these events did not get until after the Western intervention in the region
And dissemination of discord among nations, and dissemination the conflict between these peoples ))))
QUOTE (vkamath+Dec 1 2009, 07:52 AM)
ahmd, please enlighten us regarding your views on honor killings in Islam -
This work has nothing to do with Islam, either closely or from afar
On the contrary
This action is contrary to Islam
Killing a Muslim unlawfully is a serious matter and a grave crime. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him”
[al-Nisa’ 4:93]
al-Bukhaari (6355) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The believer will continue to be encompassed by the mercy of Allaah so long as he does not shed blood that it is forbidden to shed.”
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has explained to us the reasons for which it becomes permissible to shed this blood. He said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: a life for a life (murder), zina of one of who is previously-married (adultery), and the one who changes his religion and forsakes the jamaa’ah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6370) and Muslim (3175). From this it is clear that zina on the part of one who is married is one of the reasons that make it permissible to kill a person, but the zaani (adulterer) cannot be killed unless two conditions are met:
-1-
He should be previously-married. The scholars have explained what is meant by previously-married in this case. Zakariya al-Ansaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Asna’l-Mataalib (4/128): The previously-married person, whether male or female, is any adult of sound mind who has previously had intercourse within a valid marriage. End quote. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Zaad (6/120): There are five conditions for (being described as) previously-married:
1- Intercourse
2- Within a valid marriage
3- Being an adult
4- Being of sound reason
5- Being free (i.e., not a slave).
End quote.
-2-
The second condition is that it should be proven that the hadd punishment is deserved, by the testimony of four male witnesses who saw the private parts meet, or the person should freely admit to having committed zina, without being forced to do so.
If it is proven that he deserves the hadd punishment, it is not permissible for individuals to carry out this punishment themselves. Rather the matter must be referred to the ruler or his deputy to prove the crime and carry out the punishment, because if individuals carry out hadd punishments, that will lead to a great deal of corruption and evil.
Ibn Muflih al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Furoo’ (6/53): It is haraam for anyone to carry out a hadd punishment except the ruler or his deputy. This is something on which the fuqaha’ of Islam are unanimously agreed, as was stated in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah (5/280): The fuqaha’ are unanimously agreed that the one who should carry out hadd punishments is the ruler or his deputy, whether the punishment is transgressing one of the limits of Allaah, may He be exalted, such as zina, or a transgression against another person, such as slander. End quote.
Concealing one who has committed this evil deed so that he may repent and set his affairs straight before he dies is better than exposing him, let alone killing him. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) turned away from Maa’iz (may Allaah be pleased with him) after he admitted committing zina, and he ignored him until he had repeated his confession several times, then he carried out the hadd punishment on him.
((( Based on this, that which is called “honour killing” is a transgression and wrongdoing, because it is killing one who does not deserve to be killed, namely the virgin if she commits zina (fornication), but the shar’i punishment in her case is flogging and banishment for one year, not execution, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “(The punishment for zina) of a virgin with a virgin person is one hundred lashes and exile for one year.” Narrated by Muslim. The one who kills her has killed a believing soul whom Allaah has forbidden to be killed, and there is a stern warning concerning that, as Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And those who invoke not any other ilaah (god) along with Allaah, nor kill such person as Allaah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse ___ and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.
69. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace”
[al-Furqaan 25:68-69] )))
Even if we assume that she deserves to be executed (if she was previously-married and committed zina), no one should do that but the ruler – as stated above. Moreover, in many cases killing is done on the basis of accusations and speculation, without proving whether the immoral action even took place.
And Allaah knows best.
This work has nothing to do with Islam, either closely or from afar
On the contrary
This action is contrary to Islam
Killing a Muslim unlawfully is a serious matter and a grave crime. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allaah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him”
[al-Nisa’ 4:93]
al-Bukhaari (6355) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The believer will continue to be encompassed by the mercy of Allaah so long as he does not shed blood that it is forbidden to shed.”
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has explained to us the reasons for which it becomes permissible to shed this blood. He said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: a life for a life (murder), zina of one of who is previously-married (adultery), and the one who changes his religion and forsakes the jamaa’ah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6370) and Muslim (3175). From this it is clear that zina on the part of one who is married is one of the reasons that make it permissible to kill a person, but the zaani (adulterer) cannot be killed unless two conditions are met:
-1-
He should be previously-married. The scholars have explained what is meant by previously-married in this case. Zakariya al-Ansaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Asna’l-Mataalib (4/128): The previously-married person, whether male or female, is any adult of sound mind who has previously had intercourse within a valid marriage. End quote. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Zaad (6/120): There are five conditions for (being described as) previously-married:
1- Intercourse
2- Within a valid marriage
3- Being an adult
4- Being of sound reason
5- Being free (i.e., not a slave).
End quote.
-2-
The second condition is that it should be proven that the hadd punishment is deserved, by the testimony of four male witnesses who saw the private parts meet, or the person should freely admit to having committed zina, without being forced to do so.
If it is proven that he deserves the hadd punishment, it is not permissible for individuals to carry out this punishment themselves. Rather the matter must be referred to the ruler or his deputy to prove the crime and carry out the punishment, because if individuals carry out hadd punishments, that will lead to a great deal of corruption and evil.
Ibn Muflih al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Furoo’ (6/53): It is haraam for anyone to carry out a hadd punishment except the ruler or his deputy. This is something on which the fuqaha’ of Islam are unanimously agreed, as was stated in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah (5/280): The fuqaha’ are unanimously agreed that the one who should carry out hadd punishments is the ruler or his deputy, whether the punishment is transgressing one of the limits of Allaah, may He be exalted, such as zina, or a transgression against another person, such as slander. End quote.
Concealing one who has committed this evil deed so that he may repent and set his affairs straight before he dies is better than exposing him, let alone killing him. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) turned away from Maa’iz (may Allaah be pleased with him) after he admitted committing zina, and he ignored him until he had repeated his confession several times, then he carried out the hadd punishment on him.
((( Based on this, that which is called “honour killing” is a transgression and wrongdoing, because it is killing one who does not deserve to be killed, namely the virgin if she commits zina (fornication), but the shar’i punishment in her case is flogging and banishment for one year, not execution, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “(The punishment for zina) of a virgin with a virgin person is one hundred lashes and exile for one year.” Narrated by Muslim. The one who kills her has killed a believing soul whom Allaah has forbidden to be killed, and there is a stern warning concerning that, as Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And those who invoke not any other ilaah (god) along with Allaah, nor kill such person as Allaah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse ___ and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.
69. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace”
[al-Furqaan 25:68-69] )))
Even if we assume that she deserves to be executed (if she was previously-married and committed zina), no one should do that but the ruler – as stated above. Moreover, in many cases killing is done on the basis of accusations and speculation, without proving whether the immoral action even took place.
And Allaah knows best.
Hey, take your idiotic head-rag nonsense elsewhere, you filthy ignorant pathetic Islamic buffoon.
ahmd is a spiritual coward.
He hides behind a computer and pretends to do Allah's work because he is to afraid to be a true martyr.
He hides behind a computer and pretends to do Allah's work because he is to afraid to be a true martyr.
Just another pointless religious spammer. Yawn. No matter the religion, the message is the same... My religion is right because God says so.
Newguy's Sockpuppet?
QUOTE (orestis+Dec 1 2009, 04:49 PM)
He hides behind a computer and pretends to do Allah's work because he is to afraid to be a true martyr.
Don't encourage him. We all know how true followers of Allah go about martyrdom.
Don't encourage him. We all know how true followers of Allah go about martyrdom.
QUOTE (ahmd+)
Killing a Muslim unlawfully is a serious matter and a grave crime
How about killing non-muslims?
How about killing non-muslims?
QUOTE (ahmd+)
the virgin if she commits zina (fornication), but the shar’i punishment in her case is flogging and banishment for one year, not execution
So according to Islam, the punishment for a virgin woman for committing adultery is flogging ??
How about killing non-muslims?
Praise be to Allaah.
Killing a non-Muslim when he is a mu’aahid (one of those who have a peace treaty with the Muslims) is a sin, one of the major sins. Al-Bukhaari narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever kills a mu’aahid will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, even though its fragrance may detected from a distance of forty days.’” But with regard to non-Muslims who are at war with the Muslims and do not have a peace treaty with the Muslims or are not living under Muslim rule, then Muslims are commanded to kill them, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you” [al-Tawbah 9:123]
But this should be in the case of jihaad under the leadership of one of the leaders of the Muslims, or his deputy.
More
http://islamnewsroom.com/answers/76-dawa-o...all-this-anyway
Islam sounds like the most repressive religion on earth.
Read for yourself
If Islam is "abusive to women" - then why are so many embracing Islam?
read more
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/converts/women.htm
Why I Shed Bikini For Niqab
I am an American woman who was born in the midst of America’s “Heartland.”I grew up, just like any other girl, being fixated with the glamour of life in “the big city.”Eventually,
I moved to Florida and on to South Beach of Miami, a hotspot for those seeking the “glamorous life.”Naturally, I did what most average Western girls do.I focused on my appearance and appeal, basing my self-worth on how much attention I got from others.I worked out religiously and became a personal trainer, acquired an upscale waterfront residence, became a regular “exhibiting” beach-goer and was able to attain a “living-in-style” kind of life.
Years went by, only to realize that my scale of self-fulfillment and happiness slid down the more I progressed in my “feminine appeal.” I was a slave to fashion. I was a hostage to my looks.
As the gap continued to progressively widen between my self-fulfillment and lifestyle, I sought refuge in escapes from alcohol and parties to meditation, activism, and alternative religions, only to have the little gap widen to what seemed like a valley. I eventually realized it all was merely a pain killer rather than an effective remedy.
By now it was September 11, 2001.As I witnessed the ensuing barrage on Islam, Islamic values and culture, and the infamous declaration of the “new crusade,” I started to notice something called Islam.Up until that point, all I had associated with Islam was women covered in “tents,” wife beaters, harems, and a world of terrorism.
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...slam&Itemid=104
Why Do Priests & Preachers Enter ISLAM?
Many people ask me how a preacher or priest in Christianity can ever go to Islam, especially considering all the negative things that we hear about Islam and Muslims everyday. Some people are simply curious, while others take a profound exception to my "conversion" to Islam. Some have asked how I could have turned my back on Jesus,
or if I truly understood the Holy Ghost and some even questioned whether or not I considered myself as "born again" or had ever really been saved at all. These are good questions to which I will offer answers to at the end of this writing. I would like to thank everyone for their interest and offer my humble story, God Willing.
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...slam&Itemid=104
A former Rabbi embraces Islam
A Jewish rabbi settler in one of Gaza settlements, who dreamt to establish the Big Israel (one of the principles that Israeli people believe in ) , embraced Islam and converted to call for Islam among the Jews in Israel. The rabbi Yosuf Cohen ,34 years old,
is a settler in a settlement in GazaStrip ,and one of Satmar's followers - a mystical Jewish movement .He came to Israel before four years from the USA, and was charmed by the religious movement Shas gleam ,but this charm did not last long. Yosuf Cohen decided to announce his Islam and his family's did too. Thereby, He has moved to live in the Eastern Jerusalem.
http://www.55a.net/firas/photo_lang/all_ma...03674Clip_3.jpg
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...slam&Itemid=104
Gosh... I imagine your wife... assuming you have one... should consider it seriously. Or maybe just fleeing.
Just so you know...
Personal testimonials of people who have converted to Islam mean absolutely nothing. Shall I respond with testimonials of people who have converted to Scientology, Catholicism, or even Pastafarianism?
Would that convince you to wear a pirate costume on the holy days?
All praise the holy Ravioli.
Praise be to Allaah.
Killing a non-Muslim when he is a mu’aahid (one of those who have a peace treaty with the Muslims) is a sin, one of the major sins...
Then you would consider me an American with a treaty to respect the Muslim practice in my country. I would be a mu’aahid.
Mu’aahid's and Muslim's have died for years under Al Quieda's hand. Yet Muslims still seem generally to have some "hidden love affair" with them.
Most American's respect Muslims.
They distrust the schemes of thieving-rich oil interests in Rhiad and Dubai.
They distrust their own American thieving wealthy.
They distrust those who would attack them, after showing them respect as proper mu’aahid. (Al Quieda could not have attacked America without being first welcomed here as guests, to plan their attack up close).
It would seem the Muslim people have failed to capture and remove the Al Queida threat, which they have spawned upon us.
God willing, they will see their errors, before much longer.
How exactly is the Koran a miracle?
The Quran is a Divine Miracle of Literature [Prophesy - Science - Warnings - Wisdom - Truths]...and it has been Preserved 100% In the Original Language - for over 1,400 years!
Humanity has received Divine Guidance only through two channels:
The Word of Almighty God ("Allah" [in Arabic]) [scriptures, Bible, Psalms, etc.]
The Prophets sent by the Allah to communicate His Will to mankind
These two things have always been going together, hand in hand.
More important though, there were at that time, tens of thousands of his companions ("sahabi" in Arabic) who memorized the complete Quran from the instruction of the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Even the prophet himself (peace be upon him) used to recite it with angel Gabriel once a year and in the last year of his life he recited it two times just before the month in which he died.
Next, the leader who came after the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (Abu Bakr) entrusted the collection of the Quran to be written in one volume by one of the Prophet's scribe, Zaid Ibn Thabit. He kept it till his death. Then the next leader, Umar and after him to his daughter, Hafsa who had been one of the wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Then from the original text which now resides in Topkope Museum, in Istanbul, Turkey, the next leader, Uthman prepared several other exact duplications and sent them to various Muslim territories such as; Uzbekistan and Turkey and other places. These scriptures are still in museums there and one has found its way to a museum in England as well. All of them are exactly the same. Today many of the Muslims from these areas are still memorizing the Quran.
The Quran was so meticulously preserved because it is the Book of Guidance for all of humanity for all times. That is why it does not address just the Arabs, in whose language it was revealed. In fact Arabs today do not comprise more than 13% of the Today of Muslims in the world today.
http://www.allahsquran.com/all_about_the_quran.php
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61701.htm
U.S. Department of State
Under Secretary for Democracy and Global Affairs > Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights
Lol
Lol
Lol
Are you stupid
No one is incredibly American
America's first state Not a democracy And there is no human rights
But more than that
America is a school for the education of all countries of the world how to Killing people and how to torture people by all means legal and illegal
of Killing children in Gaza
of Killing children in Iraq
of Killing children in Afghanistan
America and Israel are the ones who did it
Do you want a guide
I know you do not want the directory
Because There is no person who does not know Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay Or secret prisons or killing children in Iraq and Afghanistan and raping children, women and men or silence on the crime of Gaza
But more than that
America is defending Israel in (Council injustice and chaos) sorry (Security Council)
How, then, becomes the executioner judge that one
Or
how the offender becomes Sheriff in that one
This is impossible
I hope that the next time depends on the neutral sources
The second thing
United Arab Emirates does not represent Islam or any other country that represents Islam
If you want to debate must come evidence from the Qur'an or the Sunnah
They say evidence from the Quran or the Sunnah is against women or unfair to women. Only then I would answer
OK
I'm not here to defend a state nor anyone I'm here for Islam is not only
So according to Islam, the punishment for a virgin woman for committing adultery is flogging ??
QUOTE (ahmd+)
Even if we assume that she deserves to be executed (if she was previously-married and committed zina), no one should do that but the ruler.
So according to Islam, a ruler can execute a woman for committing adultery?
Congratulations, you just proved you are as fanatical as any Islamic terrorist and that your religion is highly intolerant and barbaric
So according to Islam, a ruler can execute a woman for committing adultery?
Congratulations, you just proved you are as fanatical as any Islamic terrorist and that your religion is highly intolerant and barbaric
You *** Muslim animals!
You cant eat pork but you can pay your debts with daughters.
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/f..._marriagesever/
You cant eat pork but you can pay your debts with daughters.
QUOTE
According to a report by CNN, a Saudi judge recently refused to anul the marriage of an 8 year old girl to a 47 year old man. The annulment petition was brought by the girl’s mother, and the judge dismissed it because, she “is not the legal guardian of the girl,” according ot the mother’s lawyer Abdullah al-Jutaili.
The girl’s father arranged the marriage in order to settle his debts with the man. But - let us all breathe a sigh of relief here - the judge asked for a pledge from the husband that he would not consummate the marriage until after she reached puberty. After she reaches puberty, the judge ruled, the girl will have the right to request a divorce. Until then, it seems, she is property of a man almost 6 times her age.
The girl’s father arranged the marriage in order to settle his debts with the man. But - let us all breathe a sigh of relief here - the judge asked for a pledge from the husband that he would not consummate the marriage until after she reached puberty. After she reaches puberty, the judge ruled, the girl will have the right to request a divorce. Until then, it seems, she is property of a man almost 6 times her age.
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/f..._marriagesever/
Here is a report from some Australians who worked in Saudi Arabia for a time. Their account shows what a backward place it is:
http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25015
Islam sounds like the most repressive religion on earth.
http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25015
Islam sounds like the most repressive religion on earth.
QUOTE (vkamath+Dec 1 2009, 10:14 PM)
How about killing non-muslims?
Praise be to Allaah.
Killing a non-Muslim when he is a mu’aahid (one of those who have a peace treaty with the Muslims) is a sin, one of the major sins. Al-Bukhaari narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever kills a mu’aahid will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, even though its fragrance may detected from a distance of forty days.’” But with regard to non-Muslims who are at war with the Muslims and do not have a peace treaty with the Muslims or are not living under Muslim rule, then Muslims are commanded to kill them, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you” [al-Tawbah 9:123]
But this should be in the case of jihaad under the leadership of one of the leaders of the Muslims, or his deputy.
More
http://islamnewsroom.com/answers/76-dawa-o...all-this-anyway
QUOTE (vkamath+Dec 1 2009, 10:14 PM)
Congratulations, you just proved you are as fanatical
Sorry, but
For example,
((( if you find your wife who practice immorality with another man what to do? )))
Sorry, but
For example,
((( if you find your wife who practice immorality with another man what to do? )))
QUOTE (Empress Palpatine+Dec 2 2009, 07:32 AM)
Islam sounds like the most repressive religion on earth.
Read for yourself
If Islam is "abusive to women" - then why are so many embracing Islam?
read more
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/converts/women.htm
Why I Shed Bikini For Niqab
I am an American woman who was born in the midst of America’s “Heartland.”I grew up, just like any other girl, being fixated with the glamour of life in “the big city.”Eventually,
I moved to Florida and on to South Beach of Miami, a hotspot for those seeking the “glamorous life.”Naturally, I did what most average Western girls do.I focused on my appearance and appeal, basing my self-worth on how much attention I got from others.I worked out religiously and became a personal trainer, acquired an upscale waterfront residence, became a regular “exhibiting” beach-goer and was able to attain a “living-in-style” kind of life.
Years went by, only to realize that my scale of self-fulfillment and happiness slid down the more I progressed in my “feminine appeal.” I was a slave to fashion. I was a hostage to my looks.
As the gap continued to progressively widen between my self-fulfillment and lifestyle, I sought refuge in escapes from alcohol and parties to meditation, activism, and alternative religions, only to have the little gap widen to what seemed like a valley. I eventually realized it all was merely a pain killer rather than an effective remedy.
By now it was September 11, 2001.As I witnessed the ensuing barrage on Islam, Islamic values and culture, and the infamous declaration of the “new crusade,” I started to notice something called Islam.Up until that point, all I had associated with Islam was women covered in “tents,” wife beaters, harems, and a world of terrorism.
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...slam&Itemid=104
Why Do Priests & Preachers Enter ISLAM?
Many people ask me how a preacher or priest in Christianity can ever go to Islam, especially considering all the negative things that we hear about Islam and Muslims everyday. Some people are simply curious, while others take a profound exception to my "conversion" to Islam. Some have asked how I could have turned my back on Jesus,
or if I truly understood the Holy Ghost and some even questioned whether or not I considered myself as "born again" or had ever really been saved at all. These are good questions to which I will offer answers to at the end of this writing. I would like to thank everyone for their interest and offer my humble story, God Willing.
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...slam&Itemid=104
A former Rabbi embraces Islam
A Jewish rabbi settler in one of Gaza settlements, who dreamt to establish the Big Israel (one of the principles that Israeli people believe in ) , embraced Islam and converted to call for Islam among the Jews in Israel. The rabbi Yosuf Cohen ,34 years old,
is a settler in a settlement in GazaStrip ,and one of Satmar's followers - a mystical Jewish movement .He came to Israel before four years from the USA, and was charmed by the religious movement Shas gleam ,but this charm did not last long. Yosuf Cohen decided to announce his Islam and his family's did too. Thereby, He has moved to live in the Eastern Jerusalem.
http://www.55a.net/firas/photo_lang/all_ma...03674Clip_3.jpg
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/index.php?opt...slam&Itemid=104
you still have not given any kind of real answer as to how you know the Koran is the word of Allah and not a fake.
A fake book would say it's the word of God.
A fake book could say all that the Koran does.
One verse you quoted talked about proof then changed the subject without offering proof.
A fake book would say it's the word of God.
A fake book could say all that the Koran does.
One verse you quoted talked about proof then changed the subject without offering proof.
QUOTE
((( if you find your wife who practice immorality with another man what to do? )))
Gosh... I imagine your wife... assuming you have one... should consider it seriously. Or maybe just fleeing.
Just so you know...
Personal testimonials of people who have converted to Islam mean absolutely nothing. Shall I respond with testimonials of people who have converted to Scientology, Catholicism, or even Pastafarianism?
Would that convince you to wear a pirate costume on the holy days?
QUOTE
or even Pastafarianism?
All praise the holy Ravioli.
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 2 2009, 11:36 PM)
Praise be to Allaah.
Killing a non-Muslim when he is a mu’aahid (one of those who have a peace treaty with the Muslims) is a sin, one of the major sins...
Then you would consider me an American with a treaty to respect the Muslim practice in my country. I would be a mu’aahid.
QUOTE
...Whoever kills a mu’aahid will not smell the fragrance of Paradise...
Mu’aahid's and Muslim's have died for years under Al Quieda's hand. Yet Muslims still seem generally to have some "hidden love affair" with them.
Most American's respect Muslims.
They distrust the schemes of thieving-rich oil interests in Rhiad and Dubai.
They distrust their own American thieving wealthy.
They distrust those who would attack them, after showing them respect as proper mu’aahid. (Al Quieda could not have attacked America without being first welcomed here as guests, to plan their attack up close).
It would seem the Muslim people have failed to capture and remove the Al Queida threat, which they have spawned upon us.
God willing, they will see their errors, before much longer.
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 3 2009, 05:06 AM)
if you find your wife who practice immorality with another man what to do?
It certainly would NOT involve flogging or execution. I am feel sorry for your wife for being married to a barbaric ***** like you.
It certainly would NOT involve flogging or execution. I am feel sorry for your wife for being married to a barbaric ***** like you.
its the small-*** syndrome that leads men to have a tyranic approach to women.
QUOTE (buttershug+Dec 2 2009, 11:52 PM)
you still have not given any kind of real answer as to how you know the Koran is the word of Allah and not a fake.
A fake book would say it's the word of God.
A fake book could say all that the Koran does.
One verse you quoted talked about proof then changed the subject without offering proof.
This book is not a new phenomenon but has more than 1400 years
Did not change a single word in spite of all the many attempts to distort.
Because God saved from the increase and decrease and change and switch
Allah,said
Al-Hijr
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Alif. Lam. Ra. These are verses of the Scripture and a plain Reading. (1) It may be that those who disbelieve wish ardently that they were Muslims. (2) Let them eat and enjoy life, and let (false) hope beguile them. They will come to know! (3) And We destroyed no township but there was a known decree for it. (4) No nation can outstrip its term nor can they lag behind. (5) And they say: O thou unto whom the Reminder is revealed, lo! thou art indeed a madman! (6) Why bringest thou not angels unto us, if thou art of the truthful? (7) We send not down the angels save with the Fact, and in that case (the disbelievers) would not be tolerated. (8) Lo! We, even We, reveal the Reminder, and lo! We verily are its Guardian. (9) We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old. (10) And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. (11) Thus do We make it traverse the hearts of the guilty: (12) They believe not therein, though the example of the men of old hath gone before. (13) And even if We opened unto them a Gate of heaven and they kept mounting through it, (14) They would say: Our sight is wrong - nay, but we are folk bewitched. (15)
Quran is also unique in that it is a miracle itself.
term “miracle,” we mean the performance of a supernatural or extraordinary event which cannot be duplicated by humans.
The challenge to reproduce the Quran was presented to the Arabs and mankind in three stages:
l. The Whole Quran
In the Quran, God commanded the Prophet to challenge all of creation to create a book of the stature of the Quran:
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
2. Ten Chapters
Next, God made the challenge ostensibly easier by asking those who denied its divine origin to imitate even ten chapters of the Quran:
“Or do they say that he has invented it? Say (to them), ‘Bring ten invented chapters like it, and call (for help) on whomever you can besides God, if you are truthful.” (Quran 11:13)
3. One Chapter
This final challenge was to produce even a single chapter to match what is in the Quran, whose shortest chapter, al-Kawthar, consists of only three verses:
“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
More than 1400 years yet there was no successful attempt.
Is not this the biggest proof that this word is the word of Allah, Mighty, the Wise !!!
In conclusion,
I ask that you read these verses from the Koran carefully and neutrality
Allah,said
Al-Anaam
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Praise be to Allah, Who hath created the heavens and the earth, and hath appointed darkness and light. Yet those who disbelieve ascribe rivals unto their Lord. (1) He it is Who hath created you from clay, and hath decreed a term for you. A term is fixed with Him. Yet still ye doubt! (2) He is Allah in the heavens and in the earth. He knoweth both your secret and your utterance, and He knoweth what ye earn. (3) Never came there unto them a revelation of the revelations of Allah but they did turn away from it. (4) And they denied the truth when it came unto them. But there will come unto them the tidings of that which they used to deride. (5) See they not how many a generation We destroyed before them, whom We had established in the earth more firmly than We have established you, and We shed on them abundant showers from the sky, and made the rivers flow beneath them. Yet we destroyed them for their sins, and created after them another generation. (6) Had we sent down unto thee (Muhammad) (actual) writing upon parchment, so that they could feel it with their hands, those who disbelieve would have said: This is naught else than mere magic. (7) They say: Why hath not an angel been sent down unto him? If We sent down an angel, then the matter would be judged; no further time would be allowed them (for reflection). (8) Had we appointed him an angel (Our messenger), We assuredly had made him (as) a man (that he might speak to men); and (thus) obscured for them (the truth) they (now) obscure. (9) Messengers (of Allah) have been derided before thee, but that whereat they scoffed surrounded such of them as did deride. (10) Say (unto the disbelievers): Travel in the land, and see the nature of the consequence for the rejecters! (11) Say: Unto whom belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth? Say: Unto Allah. He hath prescribed for Himself mercy, that He may bring you all together to the Day of Resurrection whereof there is no doubt. Those who ruin their souls will not believe. (12) Unto Him belongeth whatsoever resteth in the night and the day. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (13) Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender (unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters. (14) Say: I fear, if I rebel against my Lord, the retribution of an Awful Day. (15) He from whom (such retribution) is averted on that day, (Allah) hath in truth had mercy on him. That will be the signal triumph. (16) If Allah touch thee with affliction, there is none that can relieve therefrom save Him, and if He touch thee with good fortune (there is none that can impair it); for He is Able to do all things. (17) He is the Omnipotent over His slaves, and He is the Wise, the Knower. (18) Say (O Muhammad): What thing is of most weight in testimony? Say: Allah is Witness between you and me. And this Qur'an hath been inspired in me, that I may warn therewith you and whomsoever it may reach. Do ye in sooth bear witness that there are gods beside Allah? Say: I bear no such witness. Say: He is only One Allah. Lo! I am innocent of that which ye associate (with Him). (19) Those unto whom We gave the Scripture recognise (this revelation) as they recognise their sons. Those who ruin their own souls will not believe. (20) Who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie against Allah or denieth His revelations? Lo! the wrongdoers will not be successful. (21) And on the day We gather them together We shall say unto those who ascribed partners (unto Allah): Where are (now) those partners of your make-believe? (22) Then will they have no contention save that they will say: By Allah, our Lord, we never were idolaters. (23) See how they lie against themselves, and (how) the thing which they devised hath failed them! (24) Of them are some who listen unto thee, but We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness. If they saw every token they would not believe therein; to the point that, when they come unto thee to argue with thee, the disbelievers say: This is naught else than fables of the men of old. (25) And they forbid (men) from it and avoid it, and they ruin none save themselves, though they perceive not. (26) If thou couldst see when they are set before the Fire and say: Oh, would that we might return! Then would we not deny the revelations of our Lord but we would be of the believers! (27) Nay, but that hath become clear unto them which before they used to hide. And if they were sent back they would return unto that which they are forbidden. Lo! they are liars. (28) And they say: There is naught save our life of the world, and we shall not be raised (again). (29) If thou couldst see when they are set before their Lord! He will say: Is not this real? They will say: Yea, verily, by our Lord! He will say: Taste now the retribution for that ye used to disbelieve. (30) They indeed are losers who deny their meeting with Allah until, when the Hour cometh on them suddenly, they cry: Alas for us, that we neglected it! They bear upon their backs their burdens. Ah, evil is that which they bear! (31) Naught is the life of the world save a pastime and a spot. Better far is the abode of the Hereafter for those who keep their duty (to Allah). Have ye then no sense? (32) We know well how their talk grieveth thee, though in truth they deny not thee (Muhammad) but evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah. (33) Messengers indeed have been denied before thee, and they were patient under the denial and the persecution till Our succour reached them. There is none to alter the decisions of Allah. Already there hath reached thee (somewhat) of the tidings of the messengers (We sent before). (34) And if their aversion is grievous unto thee, then, if thou canst, seek a way down into the earth or a ladder unto the sky that thou mayst bring unto them a portent (to convince them all)! - If Allah willed, He could have brought them all together to the guidance - So be not thou among the foolish ones. (35) Only those can accept who hear. As for the dead, Allah will raise them up; then unto Him they will be returned. (36) They say: Why hath no portent been sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: Lo! Allah is Able to send down a portent. But most of them know not. (37) There is not an animal in the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. We have neglected nothing in the Book (of Our decrees). Then unto their Lord they will be gathered. (38) Those who deny Our revelations are deaf and dumb in darkness. Whom Allah will He sendeth astray, and whom He will He placeth on a straight path. (39) Say: Can ye see yourselves, if the punishment of Allah come upon you or the Hour come upon you, (calling upon other than Allah)? Do ye then call (for help) to any other than Allah? (Answer that) if ye are truthful. (40) Nay, but unto Him ye call, and He removeth that because of which ye call unto Him, if He will, and ye forget whatever partners ye ascribed unto Him. (41) We have sent already unto peoples that were before thee, and We visited them with tribulation and adversity, in order that they might grow humble. (42) If only, when Our disaster came on them, they had been humble! But their hearts were hardened and the devil made all that they used to do seem fair unto them! (43) Then, when they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We opened unto them the gates of all things till, even as they were rejoicing in that which they were given, We seized them unawares, and lo! they were dumbfounded. (44) So of the people who did wrong the last remnant was cut off. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds! (45) Say: Have ye imagined, if Allah should take away your hearing and your sight and seal your hearts, Who is the God Who could restore it to you save Allah? See how We display the revelations unto them! Yet still they turn away. (46) Say: Can ye see yourselves, if the punishment of Allah come upon you unawares or openly? Would any perish save wrongdoing folk? (47) We send not the messengers save as bearers of good news and warners. Whoso believeth and doeth right, there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. (48) But as for those who deny Our revelations, torment will afflict them for that they used to disobey. (49) Say (O Muhammad, to the disbelievers): I say not unto you (that) I possess the treasures of Allah, nor that I have knowledge of the Unseen; and I say not unto you: Lo! I am an angel. I follow only that which is inspired in me. Say: Are the blind man and the seer equal? Will ye not then take thought? (50) Warn hereby those who fear (because they know) that they will be gathered unto their Lord, for whom there is no protecting friend nor intercessor beside Him, that they may ward off (evil). (51) Repel not those who call upon their Lord at morn and evening, seeking His Countenance. Thou art not accountable for them in aught, nor are they accountable for thee in aught, that thou shouldst repel them and be of the wrong-doers. (52) And even so do We try some of them by others, that they say: Are these they whom Allah favoureth among us? Is not Allah best Aware of the thanksgivers? (53) And when those who believe in Our revelations come unto thee, say: Peace be unto you! Your Lord hath prescribed for Himself mercy, that whoso of you doeth evil through ignorance and repenteth afterward thereof and doeth right, (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (54) Thus do We expound the revelations that the way of the unrighteous may be manifest. (55) Say: I am forbidden to worship those on whom ye call instead of Allah. Say: I will not follow your desires, for then should I go astray and I should not be of the rightly guided. (56) Say: I am (relying) on clear proof from my Lord, while ye deny Him. I have not that for which ye are impatient. The decision is for Allah only. He telleth the truth and He is the Best of Deciders. (57) Say: If I had that for which ye are impatient, then would the case (ere this) have been decided between me and you. Allah is Best Aware of the wrong-doers. (58) And with Him are the keys of the Invisible. None but He knoweth them. And He knoweth what is in the land and the sea. Not a leaf falleth but He knoweth it, not a grain amid the darkness of the earth, naught of wet or dry but (it is noted) in a clear record. (59) He it is Who gathereth you at night and knoweth that which ye commit by day. Then He raiseth you again to life therein, that the term appointed (for you) may be accomplished. And afterward unto Him is your return. Then He will proclaim unto you what ye used to do. (60) He is the Omnipotent over His slaves. He sendeth guardians over you until, when death cometh unto one of you, Our messengers receive him, and they neglect not. (61) Then are they restored unto Allah, their Lord, the Just. Surely His is the judgment. And He is the most swift of reckoners. (62) Say: Who delivereth you from the darkness of the land and the sea? Ye call upon Him humbly and in secret, (saying): If we are delivered from this (fear) we truly will be of the thankful. (63) Say: Allah delivereth you from this and from all affliction. Yet ye attribute partners unto Him. (64) Say: He is able to send punishment upon you from above you or from beneath your feet, or to bewilder you with dissension and make you taste the tyranny one of another. See how We display the revelations so that they may understand. (65) Thy people (O Muhammad) have denied it, though it is the Truth. Say: I am not put in charge of you. (66) For every announcement there is a term, and ye will come to know. (67) And when thou seest those who meddle with Our revelations, withdraw from them until they meddle with another topic. And if the devil cause thee to forget, sit not, after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong-doers. (68) Those who ward off (evil) are not accountable for them in aught, but the Reminder (must be given them) that haply they (too) may ward off (evil). (69) And forsake those who take their religion for a pastime and a jest, and whom the life of the world beguileth. Remind (mankind) hereby lest a soul be destroyed by what it earneth. It hath beside Allah no friend nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who perish by their own deserts. For them is drink of boiling water and a painful doom, because they disbelieved. (70) Say: Shall we cry, instead of unto Allah, unto that which neither profiteth us nor hurteth us, and shall we turn back after Allah hath guided us, like one bewildered whom the devils have infatuated in the earth, who hath companions who invite him to the guidance (saying): Come unto us? Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah is Guidance, and we are ordered to surrender to the Lord of the Worlds, (71) And to establish worship and ward off (evil), and He it is unto Whom ye will be gathered. (72) He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in truth. In the day when He saith: Be! it is. His Word is the Truth, and His will be the Sovereignty on the day when the trumpet is blown. Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, He is the Wise, the Aware. (73) (Remember) when Abraham said unto his father Azar: Takest thou idols for gods? Lo! I see thee and thy folk in error manifest. (74) Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth that he might be of those possessing certainty: (75) When the night grew dark upon him he beheld a star. He said: This is my Lord. But when it set, he said: I love not things that set. (76) And when he saw the moon uprising, he exclaimed: This is my Lord. But when it set, he said: Unless my Lord guide me, I surely shall become one of the folk who are astray. (77) And when he saw the sun uprising, he cried: This is my Lord! This is greater! And when it set he exclaimed: O my people! Lo! I am free from all that ye associate (with Him). (78) Lo! I have turned my face toward Him Who created the heavens and the earth, as one by nature upright, and I am not of the idolaters. (79) His people argued with him. He said: Dispute ye with me concerning Allah when He hath guided me? I fear not at all that which ye set up beside Him unless my Lord willeth aught. My Lord includeth all things in His knowledge. Will ye not then remember? (80) How should I fear that which ye set up beside Him, when ye fear not to set up beside Allah that for which He hath revealed unto you no warrant? Which of the two factions hath more right to safety? (Answer me that) if ye have knowledge. (81) Those who believe and obscure not their belief by wrongdoing, theirs is safety; and they are rightly guided. (82) That is Our argument. We gave it unto Abraham against his folk. We raise unto degrees of wisdom whom We will. Lo! thy Lord is Wise, Aware. (83) And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob; each of them We guided; and Noah did We guide aforetime; and of his seed (We guided) David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good. (84) And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias. Each one (of them) was of the righteous. (85) And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one of them did We prefer above (Our) creatures, (86) With some of their forefathers and their offspring and their brethren; and We chose them and guided them unto a straight path. (87) Such is the guidance of Allah wherewith He guideth whom He will of His bondmen. But if they had set up (for worship) aught beside Him, (all) that they did would have been vain. (88) Those are they unto whom We gave the Scripture and command and prophethood. But if these disbelieve therein, then indeed We shall entrust it to a people who will not be disbelievers therein. (89) Those are they whom Allah guideth, so follow their guidance. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee for it. Lo! it is naught but a Reminder to (His) creatures. (90) And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and by which ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling. (91) And this is a blessed Scripture which We have revealed, confirming that which (was revealed) before it, that thou mayst warn the Mother of Villages and those around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe herein, and they are careful of their worship. (92) Who is guilty of more wrong than he who forgeth a lie against Allah, or saith: I am inspired, when he is not inspired in aught; and who saith: I will reveal the like of that which Allah hath revealed? If thou couldst see, when the wrong-doers reach the pangs of death and the angels stretch their hands out saying: Deliver up your souls. This day ye are awarded doom of degradation for that ye spake concerning Allah other than the truth, and scorned His portents. (93) Now have ye come unto Us solitary as We did create you at the first, and ye have left behind you all that We bestowed upon you, and We behold not with you those your intercessors, of whom ye claimed that they possessed a share in you. Now is the bond between you severed, and that which ye presumed hath failed you. (94) Lo! Allah (it is) Who splitteth the grain of corn and the date-stone (for sprouting). He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and is the bringer-forth of the dead from the living. Such is Allah. How then are ye perverted? (95) He is the Cleaver of the Daybreak, and He hath appointed the night for stillness, and the sun and the moon for reckoning. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. (96) And He it is Who hath set for you the stars that ye may guide your course by them amid the darkness of the land and the sea. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. (97) And He it is Who hath produced you from a single being, and (hath given you) a habitation and a repository. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who have understanding. (98) He it is Who sendeth down water from the sky, and therewith We bring forth buds of every kind; We bring forth the green blade from which We bring forth the thick-clustered grain; and from the date-palm, from the pollen thereof, spring pendant bunches; and (We bring forth) gardens of grapes, and the olive and the pomegranate, alike and unlike. Look upon the fruit thereof, when they bear fruit, and upon its ripening. Lo! herein verily are portents for a people who believe. (99) Yet they ascribe as partners unto Him the jinn, although He did create them, and impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. Glorified be He and high exalted above (all) that they ascribe (unto Him). (100) The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things? (101) Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no God save Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He taketh care of all things. (102) Vision comprehendeth Him not, but He comprehendeth (all) vision. He is the Subtile, the Aware. (103) Proofs have come unto you from your Lord, so whoso seeth, it is for his own good, and whoso is blind is blind to his own hurt. And I am not a keeper over you. (104) Thus do We display Our revelations that they may say (unto thee, Muhammad): "Thou hast studied," and that We may make (it) clear for people who have knowledge. (105) Follow that which is inspired in thee from thy Lord; there is no God save Him; and turn away from the idolaters. (106) Had Allah willed, they had not been idolatrous. We have not set thee as a keeper over them, nor art thou responsible for them. (107) Revile not those unto whom they pray beside Allah lest they wrongfully revile Allah through ignorance. Thus unto every nation have We made their deed seem fair. Then unto their Lord is their return, and He will tell them what they used to do. (108) And they swear a solemn oath by Allah that if there come unto them a portent they will believe therein. Say; Portents are with Allah and (so is) that which telleth you that if such came unto them they would not believe. (109) We confound their hearts and their eyes. As they believed not therein at the first, We let them wander blindly on in their contumacy. (110) And though We should send down the angels unto them, and the dead should speak unto them, and We should gather against them all things in array, they would not believe unless Allah so willed. Howbeit, most of them are ignorant. (111) Thus have We appointed unto every prophet an adversary - devils of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising; (112) That the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter may incline thereto, and that they may take pleasure therein, and that they may earn what they are earning. (113) Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers. (114) Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (115) If thou obeyedst most of those on earth they would mislead thee far from Allah's way. They follow naught but an opinion, and they do but guess. (116) Lo! thy Lord, He knoweth best who erreth from His way; and He knoweth best (who are) the rightly guided. (117) Eat of that over which the name of Allah hath been mentioned, if ye are believers in His revelations. (118) How should ye not eat of that over which the name of Allah hath been mentioned, when He hath explained unto you that which is forbidden unto you unless ye are compelled thereto. But lo! many are led astray by their own lusts through ignorance. Lo! thy Lord, He is Best Aware of the transgressors. (119) Forsake the outwardness of sin and the inwardness thereof. Lo! those who garner sin will be awarded that which they have earned. (120) And eat not of that whereon Allah's name hath not been mentioned, for lo! it is abomination. Lo! the devils do inspire their minions to dispute with you. But if ye obey them, ye will be in truth idolaters. (121) Is he who was dead and We have raised him unto life, and set for him a light wherein he walketh among men, as him whose similitude is in utter darkness whence he cannot emerge? Thus is their conduct made fairseeming for the disbelievers. (122) And thus have We made in every city great ones of its wicked ones, that they should plot therein. They do but plot against themselves, though they perceive not. (123) And when a token cometh unto them, they say: We will not believe till we are given that which Allah's messengers are given. Allah knoweth best with whom to place His message. Humiliation from Allah and heavy punishment will smite the guilty for their scheming. (124) And whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, He expandeth his bosom unto the Surrender, and whomsoever it is His Will to send astray, He maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer ascent. Thus Allah layeth ignominy upon those who believe not. (125) This is the path of thy Lord, a straight path. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who take heed. (126)
Do this the words of human beings?
A fake book would say it's the word of God.
A fake book could say all that the Koran does.
One verse you quoted talked about proof then changed the subject without offering proof.
This book is not a new phenomenon but has more than 1400 years
Did not change a single word in spite of all the many attempts to distort.
Because God saved from the increase and decrease and change and switch
Allah,said
Al-Hijr
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Alif. Lam. Ra. These are verses of the Scripture and a plain Reading. (1) It may be that those who disbelieve wish ardently that they were Muslims. (2) Let them eat and enjoy life, and let (false) hope beguile them. They will come to know! (3) And We destroyed no township but there was a known decree for it. (4) No nation can outstrip its term nor can they lag behind. (5) And they say: O thou unto whom the Reminder is revealed, lo! thou art indeed a madman! (6) Why bringest thou not angels unto us, if thou art of the truthful? (7) We send not down the angels save with the Fact, and in that case (the disbelievers) would not be tolerated. (8) Lo! We, even We, reveal the Reminder, and lo! We verily are its Guardian. (9) We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old. (10) And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. (11) Thus do We make it traverse the hearts of the guilty: (12) They believe not therein, though the example of the men of old hath gone before. (13) And even if We opened unto them a Gate of heaven and they kept mounting through it, (14) They would say: Our sight is wrong - nay, but we are folk bewitched. (15)
Quran is also unique in that it is a miracle itself.
term “miracle,” we mean the performance of a supernatural or extraordinary event which cannot be duplicated by humans.
The challenge to reproduce the Quran was presented to the Arabs and mankind in three stages:
l. The Whole Quran
In the Quran, God commanded the Prophet to challenge all of creation to create a book of the stature of the Quran:
“Say: ‘If all mankind and the jinn would come together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce its like even though they exerted all and their strength in aiding one another.’” (Quran 17:88)
2. Ten Chapters
Next, God made the challenge ostensibly easier by asking those who denied its divine origin to imitate even ten chapters of the Quran:
“Or do they say that he has invented it? Say (to them), ‘Bring ten invented chapters like it, and call (for help) on whomever you can besides God, if you are truthful.” (Quran 11:13)
3. One Chapter
This final challenge was to produce even a single chapter to match what is in the Quran, whose shortest chapter, al-Kawthar, consists of only three verses:
“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
More than 1400 years yet there was no successful attempt.
Is not this the biggest proof that this word is the word of Allah, Mighty, the Wise !!!
In conclusion,
I ask that you read these verses from the Koran carefully and neutrality
Allah,said
Al-Anaam
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Praise be to Allah, Who hath created the heavens and the earth, and hath appointed darkness and light. Yet those who disbelieve ascribe rivals unto their Lord. (1) He it is Who hath created you from clay, and hath decreed a term for you. A term is fixed with Him. Yet still ye doubt! (2) He is Allah in the heavens and in the earth. He knoweth both your secret and your utterance, and He knoweth what ye earn. (3) Never came there unto them a revelation of the revelations of Allah but they did turn away from it. (4) And they denied the truth when it came unto them. But there will come unto them the tidings of that which they used to deride. (5) See they not how many a generation We destroyed before them, whom We had established in the earth more firmly than We have established you, and We shed on them abundant showers from the sky, and made the rivers flow beneath them. Yet we destroyed them for their sins, and created after them another generation. (6) Had we sent down unto thee (Muhammad) (actual) writing upon parchment, so that they could feel it with their hands, those who disbelieve would have said: This is naught else than mere magic. (7) They say: Why hath not an angel been sent down unto him? If We sent down an angel, then the matter would be judged; no further time would be allowed them (for reflection). (8) Had we appointed him an angel (Our messenger), We assuredly had made him (as) a man (that he might speak to men); and (thus) obscured for them (the truth) they (now) obscure. (9) Messengers (of Allah) have been derided before thee, but that whereat they scoffed surrounded such of them as did deride. (10) Say (unto the disbelievers): Travel in the land, and see the nature of the consequence for the rejecters! (11) Say: Unto whom belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth? Say: Unto Allah. He hath prescribed for Himself mercy, that He may bring you all together to the Day of Resurrection whereof there is no doubt. Those who ruin their souls will not believe. (12) Unto Him belongeth whatsoever resteth in the night and the day. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (13) Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender (unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters. (14) Say: I fear, if I rebel against my Lord, the retribution of an Awful Day. (15) He from whom (such retribution) is averted on that day, (Allah) hath in truth had mercy on him. That will be the signal triumph. (16) If Allah touch thee with affliction, there is none that can relieve therefrom save Him, and if He touch thee with good fortune (there is none that can impair it); for He is Able to do all things. (17) He is the Omnipotent over His slaves, and He is the Wise, the Knower. (18) Say (O Muhammad): What thing is of most weight in testimony? Say: Allah is Witness between you and me. And this Qur'an hath been inspired in me, that I may warn therewith you and whomsoever it may reach. Do ye in sooth bear witness that there are gods beside Allah? Say: I bear no such witness. Say: He is only One Allah. Lo! I am innocent of that which ye associate (with Him). (19) Those unto whom We gave the Scripture recognise (this revelation) as they recognise their sons. Those who ruin their own souls will not believe. (20) Who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie against Allah or denieth His revelations? Lo! the wrongdoers will not be successful. (21) And on the day We gather them together We shall say unto those who ascribed partners (unto Allah): Where are (now) those partners of your make-believe? (22) Then will they have no contention save that they will say: By Allah, our Lord, we never were idolaters. (23) See how they lie against themselves, and (how) the thing which they devised hath failed them! (24) Of them are some who listen unto thee, but We have placed upon their hearts veils, lest they should understand, and in their ears a deafness. If they saw every token they would not believe therein; to the point that, when they come unto thee to argue with thee, the disbelievers say: This is naught else than fables of the men of old. (25) And they forbid (men) from it and avoid it, and they ruin none save themselves, though they perceive not. (26) If thou couldst see when they are set before the Fire and say: Oh, would that we might return! Then would we not deny the revelations of our Lord but we would be of the believers! (27) Nay, but that hath become clear unto them which before they used to hide. And if they were sent back they would return unto that which they are forbidden. Lo! they are liars. (28) And they say: There is naught save our life of the world, and we shall not be raised (again). (29) If thou couldst see when they are set before their Lord! He will say: Is not this real? They will say: Yea, verily, by our Lord! He will say: Taste now the retribution for that ye used to disbelieve. (30) They indeed are losers who deny their meeting with Allah until, when the Hour cometh on them suddenly, they cry: Alas for us, that we neglected it! They bear upon their backs their burdens. Ah, evil is that which they bear! (31) Naught is the life of the world save a pastime and a spot. Better far is the abode of the Hereafter for those who keep their duty (to Allah). Have ye then no sense? (32) We know well how their talk grieveth thee, though in truth they deny not thee (Muhammad) but evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah. (33) Messengers indeed have been denied before thee, and they were patient under the denial and the persecution till Our succour reached them. There is none to alter the decisions of Allah. Already there hath reached thee (somewhat) of the tidings of the messengers (We sent before). (34) And if their aversion is grievous unto thee, then, if thou canst, seek a way down into the earth or a ladder unto the sky that thou mayst bring unto them a portent (to convince them all)! - If Allah willed, He could have brought them all together to the guidance - So be not thou among the foolish ones. (35) Only those can accept who hear. As for the dead, Allah will raise them up; then unto Him they will be returned. (36) They say: Why hath no portent been sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: Lo! Allah is Able to send down a portent. But most of them know not. (37) There is not an animal in the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. We have neglected nothing in the Book (of Our decrees). Then unto their Lord they will be gathered. (38) Those who deny Our revelations are deaf and dumb in darkness. Whom Allah will He sendeth astray, and whom He will He placeth on a straight path. (39) Say: Can ye see yourselves, if the punishment of Allah come upon you or the Hour come upon you, (calling upon other than Allah)? Do ye then call (for help) to any other than Allah? (Answer that) if ye are truthful. (40) Nay, but unto Him ye call, and He removeth that because of which ye call unto Him, if He will, and ye forget whatever partners ye ascribed unto Him. (41) We have sent already unto peoples that were before thee, and We visited them with tribulation and adversity, in order that they might grow humble. (42) If only, when Our disaster came on them, they had been humble! But their hearts were hardened and the devil made all that they used to do seem fair unto them! (43) Then, when they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We opened unto them the gates of all things till, even as they were rejoicing in that which they were given, We seized them unawares, and lo! they were dumbfounded. (44) So of the people who did wrong the last remnant was cut off. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds! (45) Say: Have ye imagined, if Allah should take away your hearing and your sight and seal your hearts, Who is the God Who could restore it to you save Allah? See how We display the revelations unto them! Yet still they turn away. (46) Say: Can ye see yourselves, if the punishment of Allah come upon you unawares or openly? Would any perish save wrongdoing folk? (47) We send not the messengers save as bearers of good news and warners. Whoso believeth and doeth right, there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. (48) But as for those who deny Our revelations, torment will afflict them for that they used to disobey. (49) Say (O Muhammad, to the disbelievers): I say not unto you (that) I possess the treasures of Allah, nor that I have knowledge of the Unseen; and I say not unto you: Lo! I am an angel. I follow only that which is inspired in me. Say: Are the blind man and the seer equal? Will ye not then take thought? (50) Warn hereby those who fear (because they know) that they will be gathered unto their Lord, for whom there is no protecting friend nor intercessor beside Him, that they may ward off (evil). (51) Repel not those who call upon their Lord at morn and evening, seeking His Countenance. Thou art not accountable for them in aught, nor are they accountable for thee in aught, that thou shouldst repel them and be of the wrong-doers. (52) And even so do We try some of them by others, that they say: Are these they whom Allah favoureth among us? Is not Allah best Aware of the thanksgivers? (53) And when those who believe in Our revelations come unto thee, say: Peace be unto you! Your Lord hath prescribed for Himself mercy, that whoso of you doeth evil through ignorance and repenteth afterward thereof and doeth right, (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (54) Thus do We expound the revelations that the way of the unrighteous may be manifest. (55) Say: I am forbidden to worship those on whom ye call instead of Allah. Say: I will not follow your desires, for then should I go astray and I should not be of the rightly guided. (56) Say: I am (relying) on clear proof from my Lord, while ye deny Him. I have not that for which ye are impatient. The decision is for Allah only. He telleth the truth and He is the Best of Deciders. (57) Say: If I had that for which ye are impatient, then would the case (ere this) have been decided between me and you. Allah is Best Aware of the wrong-doers. (58) And with Him are the keys of the Invisible. None but He knoweth them. And He knoweth what is in the land and the sea. Not a leaf falleth but He knoweth it, not a grain amid the darkness of the earth, naught of wet or dry but (it is noted) in a clear record. (59) He it is Who gathereth you at night and knoweth that which ye commit by day. Then He raiseth you again to life therein, that the term appointed (for you) may be accomplished. And afterward unto Him is your return. Then He will proclaim unto you what ye used to do. (60) He is the Omnipotent over His slaves. He sendeth guardians over you until, when death cometh unto one of you, Our messengers receive him, and they neglect not. (61) Then are they restored unto Allah, their Lord, the Just. Surely His is the judgment. And He is the most swift of reckoners. (62) Say: Who delivereth you from the darkness of the land and the sea? Ye call upon Him humbly and in secret, (saying): If we are delivered from this (fear) we truly will be of the thankful. (63) Say: Allah delivereth you from this and from all affliction. Yet ye attribute partners unto Him. (64) Say: He is able to send punishment upon you from above you or from beneath your feet, or to bewilder you with dissension and make you taste the tyranny one of another. See how We display the revelations so that they may understand. (65) Thy people (O Muhammad) have denied it, though it is the Truth. Say: I am not put in charge of you. (66) For every announcement there is a term, and ye will come to know. (67) And when thou seest those who meddle with Our revelations, withdraw from them until they meddle with another topic. And if the devil cause thee to forget, sit not, after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong-doers. (68) Those who ward off (evil) are not accountable for them in aught, but the Reminder (must be given them) that haply they (too) may ward off (evil). (69) And forsake those who take their religion for a pastime and a jest, and whom the life of the world beguileth. Remind (mankind) hereby lest a soul be destroyed by what it earneth. It hath beside Allah no friend nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who perish by their own deserts. For them is drink of boiling water and a painful doom, because they disbelieved. (70) Say: Shall we cry, instead of unto Allah, unto that which neither profiteth us nor hurteth us, and shall we turn back after Allah hath guided us, like one bewildered whom the devils have infatuated in the earth, who hath companions who invite him to the guidance (saying): Come unto us? Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah is Guidance, and we are ordered to surrender to the Lord of the Worlds, (71) And to establish worship and ward off (evil), and He it is unto Whom ye will be gathered. (72) He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in truth. In the day when He saith: Be! it is. His Word is the Truth, and His will be the Sovereignty on the day when the trumpet is blown. Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, He is the Wise, the Aware. (73) (Remember) when Abraham said unto his father Azar: Takest thou idols for gods? Lo! I see thee and thy folk in error manifest. (74) Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth that he might be of those possessing certainty: (75) When the night grew dark upon him he beheld a star. He said: This is my Lord. But when it set, he said: I love not things that set. (76) And when he saw the moon uprising, he exclaimed: This is my Lord. But when it set, he said: Unless my Lord guide me, I surely shall become one of the folk who are astray. (77) And when he saw the sun uprising, he cried: This is my Lord! This is greater! And when it set he exclaimed: O my people! Lo! I am free from all that ye associate (with Him). (78) Lo! I have turned my face toward Him Who created the heavens and the earth, as one by nature upright, and I am not of the idolaters. (79) His people argued with him. He said: Dispute ye with me concerning Allah when He hath guided me? I fear not at all that which ye set up beside Him unless my Lord willeth aught. My Lord includeth all things in His knowledge. Will ye not then remember? (80) How should I fear that which ye set up beside Him, when ye fear not to set up beside Allah that for which He hath revealed unto you no warrant? Which of the two factions hath more right to safety? (Answer me that) if ye have knowledge. (81) Those who believe and obscure not their belief by wrongdoing, theirs is safety; and they are rightly guided. (82) That is Our argument. We gave it unto Abraham against his folk. We raise unto degrees of wisdom whom We will. Lo! thy Lord is Wise, Aware. (83) And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob; each of them We guided; and Noah did We guide aforetime; and of his seed (We guided) David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good. (84) And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias. Each one (of them) was of the righteous. (85) And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one of them did We prefer above (Our) creatures, (86) With some of their forefathers and their offspring and their brethren; and We chose them and guided them unto a straight path. (87) Such is the guidance of Allah wherewith He guideth whom He will of His bondmen. But if they had set up (for worship) aught beside Him, (all) that they did would have been vain. (88) Those are they unto whom We gave the Scripture and command and prophethood. But if these disbelieve therein, then indeed We shall entrust it to a people who will not be disbelievers therein. (89) Those are they whom Allah guideth, so follow their guidance. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee for it. Lo! it is naught but a Reminder to (His) creatures. (90) And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure when they say: Allah hath naught revealed unto a human being. Say (unto the Jews who speak thus): Who revealed the Book which Moses brought, a light and guidance for mankind, which ye have put on parchments which ye show, but ye hide much (thereof), and by which ye were taught that which ye knew not yourselves nor (did) your fathers (know it)? Say: Allah. Then leave them to their play of cavilling. (91) And this is a blessed Scripture which We have revealed, confirming that which (was revealed) before it, that thou mayst warn the Mother of Villages and those around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe herein, and they are careful of their worship. (92) Who is guilty of more wrong than he who forgeth a lie against Allah, or saith: I am inspired, when he is not inspired in aught; and who saith: I will reveal the like of that which Allah hath revealed? If thou couldst see, when the wrong-doers reach the pangs of death and the angels stretch their hands out saying: Deliver up your souls. This day ye are awarded doom of degradation for that ye spake concerning Allah other than the truth, and scorned His portents. (93) Now have ye come unto Us solitary as We did create you at the first, and ye have left behind you all that We bestowed upon you, and We behold not with you those your intercessors, of whom ye claimed that they possessed a share in you. Now is the bond between you severed, and that which ye presumed hath failed you. (94) Lo! Allah (it is) Who splitteth the grain of corn and the date-stone (for sprouting). He bringeth forth the living from the dead, and is the bringer-forth of the dead from the living. Such is Allah. How then are ye perverted? (95) He is the Cleaver of the Daybreak, and He hath appointed the night for stillness, and the sun and the moon for reckoning. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. (96) And He it is Who hath set for you the stars that ye may guide your course by them amid the darkness of the land and the sea. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. (97) And He it is Who hath produced you from a single being, and (hath given you) a habitation and a repository. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who have understanding. (98) He it is Who sendeth down water from the sky, and therewith We bring forth buds of every kind; We bring forth the green blade from which We bring forth the thick-clustered grain; and from the date-palm, from the pollen thereof, spring pendant bunches; and (We bring forth) gardens of grapes, and the olive and the pomegranate, alike and unlike. Look upon the fruit thereof, when they bear fruit, and upon its ripening. Lo! herein verily are portents for a people who believe. (99) Yet they ascribe as partners unto Him the jinn, although He did create them, and impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. Glorified be He and high exalted above (all) that they ascribe (unto Him). (100) The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things? (101) Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no God save Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He taketh care of all things. (102) Vision comprehendeth Him not, but He comprehendeth (all) vision. He is the Subtile, the Aware. (103) Proofs have come unto you from your Lord, so whoso seeth, it is for his own good, and whoso is blind is blind to his own hurt. And I am not a keeper over you. (104) Thus do We display Our revelations that they may say (unto thee, Muhammad): "Thou hast studied," and that We may make (it) clear for people who have knowledge. (105) Follow that which is inspired in thee from thy Lord; there is no God save Him; and turn away from the idolaters. (106) Had Allah willed, they had not been idolatrous. We have not set thee as a keeper over them, nor art thou responsible for them. (107) Revile not those unto whom they pray beside Allah lest they wrongfully revile Allah through ignorance. Thus unto every nation have We made their deed seem fair. Then unto their Lord is their return, and He will tell them what they used to do. (108) And they swear a solemn oath by Allah that if there come unto them a portent they will believe therein. Say; Portents are with Allah and (so is) that which telleth you that if such came unto them they would not believe. (109) We confound their hearts and their eyes. As they believed not therein at the first, We let them wander blindly on in their contumacy. (110) And though We should send down the angels unto them, and the dead should speak unto them, and We should gather against them all things in array, they would not believe unless Allah so willed. Howbeit, most of them are ignorant. (111) Thus have We appointed unto every prophet an adversary - devils of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising; (112) That the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter may incline thereto, and that they may take pleasure therein, and that they may earn what they are earning. (113) Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers. (114) Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (115) If thou obeyedst most of those on earth they would mislead thee far from Allah's way. They follow naught but an opinion, and they do but guess. (116) Lo! thy Lord, He knoweth best who erreth from His way; and He knoweth best (who are) the rightly guided. (117) Eat of that over which the name of Allah hath been mentioned, if ye are believers in His revelations. (118) How should ye not eat of that over which the name of Allah hath been mentioned, when He hath explained unto you that which is forbidden unto you unless ye are compelled thereto. But lo! many are led astray by their own lusts through ignorance. Lo! thy Lord, He is Best Aware of the transgressors. (119) Forsake the outwardness of sin and the inwardness thereof. Lo! those who garner sin will be awarded that which they have earned. (120) And eat not of that whereon Allah's name hath not been mentioned, for lo! it is abomination. Lo! the devils do inspire their minions to dispute with you. But if ye obey them, ye will be in truth idolaters. (121) Is he who was dead and We have raised him unto life, and set for him a light wherein he walketh among men, as him whose similitude is in utter darkness whence he cannot emerge? Thus is their conduct made fairseeming for the disbelievers. (122) And thus have We made in every city great ones of its wicked ones, that they should plot therein. They do but plot against themselves, though they perceive not. (123) And when a token cometh unto them, they say: We will not believe till we are given that which Allah's messengers are given. Allah knoweth best with whom to place His message. Humiliation from Allah and heavy punishment will smite the guilty for their scheming. (124) And whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, He expandeth his bosom unto the Surrender, and whomsoever it is His Will to send astray, He maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer ascent. Thus Allah layeth ignominy upon those who believe not. (125) This is the path of thy Lord, a straight path. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who take heed. (126)
Do this the words of human beings?
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Dec 2 2009, 11:52 PM)
Personal testimonials of people who have converted to Islam mean absolutely nothing. Shall I respond with testimonials of people who have converted to Scientology, Catholicism, or even Pastafarianism?
Would that convince you to wear a pirate costume on the holy days?
It does not matter the number of people converts to any religion
But The most important thing is the true religion
Where was the true religion Be with true religion
What is Islam?
Among the blessings and favors that God has bestowed upon humanity is that He endowed them with an innate ability to recognize and acknowledge His existence. He placed this awareness deep in their hearts as a natural disposition that has not changed since human beings were first created. Furthermore, He reinforced this natural disposition with the signs that he placed in Creation that testify to His existence. However, since it is not possible for human beings to have a detailed knowledge of God except through revelation from Himself, God sent His Messengers to teach the people about their Creator Who they must worship. These Messengers also brought with them the details of how to worship Allah, because such details cannot be known except by way of revelation. These two fundamentals were the most important things that the Messengers of all the divine revelations brought with them from God. On this basis, all the divine revelations have had the same lofty objectives, which are:
1. To affirm the Oneness of Allah - the praised and glorified Creator – in His essence and His attributes.
2. To affirm that Allah alone should be worshipped and that no other being should be worshipped along with Him or instead of Him.
3. To safeguard human welfare and oppose corruption and evil. Thus, everything that safeguards faith, life, reason, wealth and lineage are part of this human welfare that religion protects. On the other hand, anything that endangers these five universal needs is a form of corruption that religion opposes and prohibits.
4. To invite the people to the highest level of virtue, moral values, and noble customs.
The ultimate goal of every Divine Message has always been the same: to guide the people to Allah, to make them aware of Him, and to have them worship Him alone. Each Divine Message came to strengthen this meaning, and the following words were repeated on the tongues of all the Messengers: “Worship Allah, you have no god other than Him.” This message was conveyed to humanity by prophets and messengers which God sent to every nation. All of these messengers came with this same message, the message of Islam.
All the Divine Messages came to bring the life of the people into willing submission to Allah. For this reason, they all share the name of Islam, which means submission in Arabic. Islam, in this sense, was the religion of all the Prophets, but why does one see different variations of the religion of God if they all emanated from the same source? The answer is twofold.
The first reason is that as a result of the passage of time, and due to the fact that previous religions were not under the Divine protection of God, they underwent much change and variation. As a result, we see that the fundamental truths which were brought by all messengers now differ from one religion to another, the most apparent being the strict tenet of the belief and worship of God and God alone.
The second reason for this variation is that God, in His infinite Wisdom and eternal Will, decreed that all the divine missions prior to the final message of Islam brought by Muhammad, may the Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him, be limited to a specific time frame. As a result, their laws and methodologies dealt with the specific conditions of the people whom they had been sent to address.
Humanity has passed through numerous periods of guidance, misguidance, integrity, and deviation, from the most primitive age to the heights of civilization. Divine guidance accompanied humanity through all of this, always providing the appropriate solutions and remedies.
This was the essence of the disparity that existed between the different religions. This disagreement never went beyond the particulars of the Divine Law. Each manifestation of the Law addressed the particular problems of the people it was meant for. However, the areas of agreement were significant and many, such as fundamentals of faith; the basic principles and objectives of the Divine Law, such as protecting faith, life, reason, wealth, and lineage and establishing justice in the land; and certain fundamental prohibitions, some of the most important of these being idolatry, fornication, murder, theft, and giving false witness. Moreover, they also agreed upon moral virtues like honesty, justice, charity, kindness, chastity, righteousness, and mercy. These principles as well as others are permanent and lasting; they are the essence of all the Divine Messages and bind them all together.
But where does the message of Muhammad fit in with the previous messages revealed by God? A brief history of the prophets might clear this point.
The first human, Adam, followed Islam, in that he directed worship to God alone and none else and abided by His commandments. But through the passage of time and the dispersal of humanity throughout the earth, people strayed from this message and began directing worship to others instead of or along with God. Some took to worshipping the pious who passed away amongst them, while others took to worshipping spirits and forces of nature. It was then that God started to send messengers to humanity steering them back to the worship of God Alone, which accorded to their true nature, and warning them of the grave consequences of directing any type of worship to others besides Him.
The first of these messengers was Noah, who was sent to preach this message of Islam to his people, after they had started to direct worship to their pious forefathers along with God. Noah called his people to leave the worship of their idols, and ordered them to return to the worship of God Alone. Some of them followed the teachings of Noah, while the majority disbelieved in him. Those who followed Noah were followers of Islam, or Muslims, while those that did not, remained in their disbelief and were seized with a punishment for doing so.
After Noah, God sent messengers to every nation who had strayed from the Truth, to steer them back to it. This Truth was the same throughout time: to reject all objects of worship and to direct all worship without exception to God and none else, the Creator and Lord of all, and to abide by His commandments. But as we mentioned before, because each nation differed in regards to their way of life, language, and culture, specific messengers were sent to specific nations for a specific time period.
God sent messengers to all nations, and to the Kingdom of Babylon He sent Abraham – one of the earliest and greatest prophets – who called his people to reject the worship of the idols to which they were devoted. He called them to Islam, but they rejected him and even tried to kill him. God put Abraham through many tests, and he proved true to all of them. For his many sacrifices, God proclaimed that he would raise amongst his progeny a great nation and choose prophets from amongst them. Whenever people from his progeny started to stray away from the Truth, which was to worship none but God alone and to obey His commandments, God sent them another messenger steering them back to it.
Consequently, we see that many prophets were sent amongst the progeny of Abraham, such as his two sons Isaac and Ishmael, along with Jacob (Israel), Joseph, David, Solomon, Moses, and of course, Jesus, to mention a few, may the Peace and Blessings of God be upon them all. Each prophet was sent to the Children of Israel (the Jews) when they went astray from the true religion of God, and it became obligatory upon them to follow the messenger which was sent to them and obey their commandments. All of the messengers came with the same message, to reject worship of all other beings except God Alone and to obey His commandments. Some disbelieved in the prophets, while others believed. Those that believed were followers of Islam, or Muslims.
From amongst the messengers was Muhammad, from the progeny of Ishmael, the son of Abraham, may the Peace and Blessings of God be upon him, who was sent as a messenger in succession to Jesus. Muhammad (pbuh) preached the same message of Islam as the previous prophets and messengers – to direct all worship to God Alone and none else and to obey His commandments – in which the followers of the previous prophets went astray.
So as we see, the Prophet Muhammad was not the founder of a new religion, as many people mistakenly think, but he was sent as the Final Prophet of Islam. By revealing His final message to Muhammad, which is an eternal and universal message for all of mankind, God finally fulfilled the covenant that He made with Abraham.
Just as it was incumbent upon the those who were alive to follow the message of the last of the succession of Prophets which was sent to them, it becomes incumbent upon all of humanity to follow the message of Muhammad (pbuh). God promised that this message would remain unchanged and fit for all times and places. Suffice it to say that the way of Islam is the same as the way of the prophet Abraham, because both the Bible and the Quran portray Abraham as a towering example of someone who submitted himself completely to God and directed worship to Him alone and none else, and without any intermediaries. Once this is realized, it should be clear that Islam has the most continuous and universal message of any religion, because all prophets and messengers were “Muslims”, i.e. those who submitted to God’s will, and they preached “Islam”, i.e. submission to the will of Almighty God by worshipping Him Alone and obeying His commandments.
So we see that those who call themselves Muslims today do not follow a new religion; rather they follow the religion and message of all prophets and messengers which were sent to humanity by God’s command, also known as Islam. The word “Islam” is an Arabic word which literally means “submission to God”, and Muslims are those who willfully submit to and actively obey God, living in accordance with His message.
Would that convince you to wear a pirate costume on the holy days?
It does not matter the number of people converts to any religion
But The most important thing is the true religion
Where was the true religion Be with true religion
What is Islam?
Among the blessings and favors that God has bestowed upon humanity is that He endowed them with an innate ability to recognize and acknowledge His existence. He placed this awareness deep in their hearts as a natural disposition that has not changed since human beings were first created. Furthermore, He reinforced this natural disposition with the signs that he placed in Creation that testify to His existence. However, since it is not possible for human beings to have a detailed knowledge of God except through revelation from Himself, God sent His Messengers to teach the people about their Creator Who they must worship. These Messengers also brought with them the details of how to worship Allah, because such details cannot be known except by way of revelation. These two fundamentals were the most important things that the Messengers of all the divine revelations brought with them from God. On this basis, all the divine revelations have had the same lofty objectives, which are:
1. To affirm the Oneness of Allah - the praised and glorified Creator – in His essence and His attributes.
2. To affirm that Allah alone should be worshipped and that no other being should be worshipped along with Him or instead of Him.
3. To safeguard human welfare and oppose corruption and evil. Thus, everything that safeguards faith, life, reason, wealth and lineage are part of this human welfare that religion protects. On the other hand, anything that endangers these five universal needs is a form of corruption that religion opposes and prohibits.
4. To invite the people to the highest level of virtue, moral values, and noble customs.
The ultimate goal of every Divine Message has always been the same: to guide the people to Allah, to make them aware of Him, and to have them worship Him alone. Each Divine Message came to strengthen this meaning, and the following words were repeated on the tongues of all the Messengers: “Worship Allah, you have no god other than Him.” This message was conveyed to humanity by prophets and messengers which God sent to every nation. All of these messengers came with this same message, the message of Islam.
All the Divine Messages came to bring the life of the people into willing submission to Allah. For this reason, they all share the name of Islam, which means submission in Arabic. Islam, in this sense, was the religion of all the Prophets, but why does one see different variations of the religion of God if they all emanated from the same source? The answer is twofold.
The first reason is that as a result of the passage of time, and due to the fact that previous religions were not under the Divine protection of God, they underwent much change and variation. As a result, we see that the fundamental truths which were brought by all messengers now differ from one religion to another, the most apparent being the strict tenet of the belief and worship of God and God alone.
The second reason for this variation is that God, in His infinite Wisdom and eternal Will, decreed that all the divine missions prior to the final message of Islam brought by Muhammad, may the Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him, be limited to a specific time frame. As a result, their laws and methodologies dealt with the specific conditions of the people whom they had been sent to address.
Humanity has passed through numerous periods of guidance, misguidance, integrity, and deviation, from the most primitive age to the heights of civilization. Divine guidance accompanied humanity through all of this, always providing the appropriate solutions and remedies.
This was the essence of the disparity that existed between the different religions. This disagreement never went beyond the particulars of the Divine Law. Each manifestation of the Law addressed the particular problems of the people it was meant for. However, the areas of agreement were significant and many, such as fundamentals of faith; the basic principles and objectives of the Divine Law, such as protecting faith, life, reason, wealth, and lineage and establishing justice in the land; and certain fundamental prohibitions, some of the most important of these being idolatry, fornication, murder, theft, and giving false witness. Moreover, they also agreed upon moral virtues like honesty, justice, charity, kindness, chastity, righteousness, and mercy. These principles as well as others are permanent and lasting; they are the essence of all the Divine Messages and bind them all together.
But where does the message of Muhammad fit in with the previous messages revealed by God? A brief history of the prophets might clear this point.
The first human, Adam, followed Islam, in that he directed worship to God alone and none else and abided by His commandments. But through the passage of time and the dispersal of humanity throughout the earth, people strayed from this message and began directing worship to others instead of or along with God. Some took to worshipping the pious who passed away amongst them, while others took to worshipping spirits and forces of nature. It was then that God started to send messengers to humanity steering them back to the worship of God Alone, which accorded to their true nature, and warning them of the grave consequences of directing any type of worship to others besides Him.
The first of these messengers was Noah, who was sent to preach this message of Islam to his people, after they had started to direct worship to their pious forefathers along with God. Noah called his people to leave the worship of their idols, and ordered them to return to the worship of God Alone. Some of them followed the teachings of Noah, while the majority disbelieved in him. Those who followed Noah were followers of Islam, or Muslims, while those that did not, remained in their disbelief and were seized with a punishment for doing so.
After Noah, God sent messengers to every nation who had strayed from the Truth, to steer them back to it. This Truth was the same throughout time: to reject all objects of worship and to direct all worship without exception to God and none else, the Creator and Lord of all, and to abide by His commandments. But as we mentioned before, because each nation differed in regards to their way of life, language, and culture, specific messengers were sent to specific nations for a specific time period.
God sent messengers to all nations, and to the Kingdom of Babylon He sent Abraham – one of the earliest and greatest prophets – who called his people to reject the worship of the idols to which they were devoted. He called them to Islam, but they rejected him and even tried to kill him. God put Abraham through many tests, and he proved true to all of them. For his many sacrifices, God proclaimed that he would raise amongst his progeny a great nation and choose prophets from amongst them. Whenever people from his progeny started to stray away from the Truth, which was to worship none but God alone and to obey His commandments, God sent them another messenger steering them back to it.
Consequently, we see that many prophets were sent amongst the progeny of Abraham, such as his two sons Isaac and Ishmael, along with Jacob (Israel), Joseph, David, Solomon, Moses, and of course, Jesus, to mention a few, may the Peace and Blessings of God be upon them all. Each prophet was sent to the Children of Israel (the Jews) when they went astray from the true religion of God, and it became obligatory upon them to follow the messenger which was sent to them and obey their commandments. All of the messengers came with the same message, to reject worship of all other beings except God Alone and to obey His commandments. Some disbelieved in the prophets, while others believed. Those that believed were followers of Islam, or Muslims.
From amongst the messengers was Muhammad, from the progeny of Ishmael, the son of Abraham, may the Peace and Blessings of God be upon him, who was sent as a messenger in succession to Jesus. Muhammad (pbuh) preached the same message of Islam as the previous prophets and messengers – to direct all worship to God Alone and none else and to obey His commandments – in which the followers of the previous prophets went astray.
So as we see, the Prophet Muhammad was not the founder of a new religion, as many people mistakenly think, but he was sent as the Final Prophet of Islam. By revealing His final message to Muhammad, which is an eternal and universal message for all of mankind, God finally fulfilled the covenant that He made with Abraham.
Just as it was incumbent upon the those who were alive to follow the message of the last of the succession of Prophets which was sent to them, it becomes incumbent upon all of humanity to follow the message of Muhammad (pbuh). God promised that this message would remain unchanged and fit for all times and places. Suffice it to say that the way of Islam is the same as the way of the prophet Abraham, because both the Bible and the Quran portray Abraham as a towering example of someone who submitted himself completely to God and directed worship to Him alone and none else, and without any intermediaries. Once this is realized, it should be clear that Islam has the most continuous and universal message of any religion, because all prophets and messengers were “Muslims”, i.e. those who submitted to God’s will, and they preached “Islam”, i.e. submission to the will of Almighty God by worshipping Him Alone and obeying His commandments.
So we see that those who call themselves Muslims today do not follow a new religion; rather they follow the religion and message of all prophets and messengers which were sent to humanity by God’s command, also known as Islam. The word “Islam” is an Arabic word which literally means “submission to God”, and Muslims are those who willfully submit to and actively obey God, living in accordance with His message.
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 6 2009, 01:17 AM)
This book is not a new phenomenon but has more than 1400 years
Did not change a single word in spite of all the many attempts to distort.
Because God saved from the increase and decrease and change and switch
Do this the words of human beings?
It doesn't prove anything that not one single word has changed.
If it was written by men then it was written by men. It not changing does not make it from Allah
And yes, why could it not have been written by a man or men wanting others to believe it was written by Allah?
How exactly is the Koran a miracle?
Remember it does not have to be what God would say. It only has to be what people would expect God to say.
Is the Book of Mormon a miracle as well?
Did not change a single word in spite of all the many attempts to distort.
Because God saved from the increase and decrease and change and switch
Do this the words of human beings?
It doesn't prove anything that not one single word has changed.
If it was written by men then it was written by men. It not changing does not make it from Allah
And yes, why could it not have been written by a man or men wanting others to believe it was written by Allah?
How exactly is the Koran a miracle?
Remember it does not have to be what God would say. It only has to be what people would expect God to say.
Is the Book of Mormon a miracle as well?
QUOTE (vkamath+Dec 3 2009, 08:24 AM)
It certainly would NOT involve flogging or execution.
But
Ask not For what befalls you AIDS....
OR
Why do your children look as if they were from a another man
OK
The second thing
See why the act of adultery with people
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.”(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said:
“Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.”(Reported by Malik.)
Understanding the Holy Hadith and its prophecy in terms of the status que
sexual perversion become widespread
To understand this , we will talk about Sex in America:
* 134,000 new cases of syphilis are occurring each year, the highest infection rate in 40 years.
* 1.3 million new gonorrhea cases occur annually.
* 24 million new cases of human papilloma virus (HPV) occur annually, including a high percentage among teens.
* 63% of all sexually transmitted disease (STD) cases occur among people less than 25 years of age.
* AIDS is the leading killer of Americans between the ages of 25 and 44.
* protection against an STD called the human papillloma virus (HPV). HPV Condoms provide virtually no is the most common medical problem seen by gynecologists and causes almost all cervical cancer in the U.S.
The humanity has never been inflicted by a debacle as the debacle of permissiveness ; adultery , sodomy , incest and lesbianism have become rampant everywhere in the societies that kept themselves away from God's law .
Prophet Mohummed part of the Hadith says "“Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known(admitted ) refers to this widely spread and admitted permissiveness in non-Moslem society . The problem began when such societies backslides the true path to God and began to adopt secularism and all its implicitly concepts ; Media has played the worst rule in spreading this heinous crime; many TV series , programmes , forums were televised praising promiscuity and adultery ; in these forum they listened to the word of scientists who always recommended it and even sais that adultery may be they way release the suppressed wills and thus the solution to many psychological troubles . Many books and lectures were authored in favour of this crime . What adds insult to injury is that the mass media has inculcated in the minds of people that young men and women should not remain chaste. Chastity has become a shame in Western societies. Sexual permissiveness is propagated and supported everywhere in the media.
Association are established every where and laws are enacted for defending those people . private clubs and parks and shores were made for those people to practice this heinous crime .Recent statistics says that the watching sexual sights has increased due to the web sites , the number of these pages amounts to 230 millions pages which form (7%) of the total web pages .
. The recent reports of the international health organization says that sex diseases are the most widely spread diseases in the world and it is the most horrible diseases that face the west ; the number of the inflicted among different ages are increasing. Dr George Gold says that four persons are inflicted with sex diseases in every second all over the world while Dr George Kous says that the true numbers are far more than this adding that the number can't be one fourth or even one tenth the true number . DR Gold in his book says " All these hopes that depended on our modern medical instruments and medication in eradicating or at least limiting the dangers of sex diseases went into smoke …the reasons that lie behind these disease lie in the social human behavior change .
The voices of the wise are fading away while the enemies of humanity are becoming louder and louder ; it is now considered in the western society that a person who did not practice adultery before marriage is abnormal person .
In his book " sex diseases , Dr shnowfield says " society condones the forbidden sexual acts; shyness is no longer there when talking about adultery in public , decency become old worn-out habit , media nurses the concept of licentiousness claiming that it is a biological necessity . Adultery has become a common place even in the church , many priests and non commit this heinous crime in the time they are supposed examples to be followed , The Daily Mails says that more than 80% of the monks , nuns and priests practice adultery and (40%) practice homosexuality ..In US , some churches allows marriage between man and man .
God sends plagues that were not among their forefathers
there are many diseases that have never been there before , these diseases caused many deaths , the danger of these diseases lies in the fact that the germs that cause these diseases modify themselves .we will talk about the most commo of these diseases .
(1) Aids
It is among the plagues which the prophet predicted to appear in the nations that commit adultery . The word "plague " used to refer to the diseases that are impossible to be cured.
Picture of the aids virus
HIV/AIDS is causing untold human suffering. In some countries, it is also reversing decades of development progress. Since the late 1970s, more than 23 million people have lost their lives to the disease; by 2010, the cumulative toll is expected to rise to 45 million. By that time infant and child mortality rates will have doubled in the worst-hit countries; HIV/AIDS will deal a crippling blow to these countries’ societies, economies and stability as their key human resources – their farmers, doctors, teachers, intellectuals, entrepreneurs, civil servants, community leaders and police officers – fall sick and die.
While the epidemic’s evolution has varied across regions, there is one common denominator: HIV/AIDS is increasingly a disease of the young and most vulnerable, particularly girls.HIV/AIDS is increasingly a disease of the young and most vulnerable, particularly girls. Of the 5 million new infections in 2002, half were among young people. More than a third of all people living with HIV/AIDS are under the age of 25, and almost two-thirds of them are women. AIDS has orphaned 14 million children, and left millions more extremely vulnerable. Almost 2,000 infants became HIV-positive every day last year either during pregnancy, birth, or through breastfeeding.
Most researchers believe that HIV originated in sub-Saharan Africa during the twentieth century;[4] it is now a pandemic, with an estimated 38.6 million people now living with the disease worldwide. As of January 2006, the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) and the World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981, making it one of the most destructive epidemics in recorded history. In 2005 alone, AIDS claimed an estimated 2.4–3.3 million lives.
Aids is a disease caused by a invisible virus that can be seen by electronic telescope after being magnified thousands of times , this virus has untold ability to conquer cells and to divide itself in these cells through controlling the secrets of genes in these cells . this virus attacks (T4) cells which are the backbone and the mind of immunity system ,leaving it completely destroyed thus destroying the infested persons
This fatal virus focus its attack on (T4) leaving it completely paralyzed and then begin to increase its number after decoding the codes of its genes , next a large number of this virus come out to attack new cells then and what is rally astonishing is that another large number (T4) begins suicide when receiving information that the virus has invaded one of them and so all the mechanism of immunity system begin to .
After the destruction of immunity system , a large number of germs begin to attack the human body fiercely causing many diseases everywhere , many diseases begin to rise their head , these are some of ensuing diseases :
Abdominal cramps, nausea, or vomiting. Diarrhea. Enlarged lymph nodes in the neck, armpits, and groin. Fever. Headache. Muscle aches and joint pain. Skin rash. Sore throat. Weight loss. Confusion Diarrhea or other bowel changes Difficulty concentrating ,Dry cough ,Fatigue , Fever , Loss of appetite ,Mouth sores Nail changes ,Night sweats ,Swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpits, and groin ,Pain when swallowing , Personality changes , Repeated outbreaks of herpes simplex ,Shortness of breath ,Tingling, numbness, and weakness in the limbs ,Unexplained weight loss ,Yeast infection of the mouth (thrush) ,pneumonia or cancer, which are more likely to develop when you have a weakened immune system.
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/images/stories/90284img1.jpg
This disease is known among those who practiced adultery in countries where they enacted laws for defending adultery ; this disease is modifying itself so fast and that makes the possibility of finding decisive medication impossible .
* Didn't prophet Mohummed tell us of that and warned the humanity against that ?
* Isn't clear that all the transmitted sexual diseases are God's punishment ?
* Aren't only human being ,among all the creatures, likely to be infected with these diseases …..(why not animal) ?
* Isn't that clear that this is God's punishment ?
* Isn't that in complete conformity with what prophet Mohummmed said?
* Humanity is unable to make any vaccination for these diseases as they change themselves continuously
(2) syphilis :
Since its appearance in 1494, the plague of syphilis has taken the lives of millions of people and destroyed the future of many others. The virus causing this disease is still changing itself and attacking people from time to time .Syphilis is an infection that is usually acquired through sexual contact with another infected person. Syphilis can be frightening because if it goes untreated, it can lead to serious health problems and increase a person's risk for HIV, the human immunodeficiency virus that causes AIDS.
(3)Gonorrhea , this can be caused by :
* vaginal or anal sex with an infected partner
* oral sex, although this is less common .
* sharing sex toys.
* touching parts of the body with fingers (for example, touching the private parts and then the eyes)
* any very close physical contact .
* the bacteria can be passed from hand to hand (very rare isolated cases)
* from a mother to her baby at birth
* You can NOT catch it from simple kissing, sharing baths, towels, cups, or from toilet seats
(4)Herpes infections, whether initial or recurring, are usually first felt as a tingling and/or itching sensation in the affected location. These initial feelings are usually followed, depending on how severe the infection is, by the emergence of a raised or swollen area on the skin. This swollen area then becomes painful in general, but acutely sore when touched, stretched or moved. Eventually the sore area will abscess, and emit a virus laden clear fluid for several days before scabbing over. Once scabbed over the lesion will usually heal completely within a period of a week to ten days. In immuno-compromised individuals this cycle can be significantly protracted.
From the onset of infection/outbreak, many patients experience headaches, fatigue (sometimes extreme), and peculiar twitching sensations in the nerves that lead to the area of the outbreak. The fatigue associated with herpes infections can concatenate with depression brought on by the cosmetic or sexually compromising nature of the infection, to yield a deeply gloomy overall mental state that some believe can contribute to increasing the length and severity of an infection.
The Islamic solution to adultery
God says in the Holy Quran what means "Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do. ( Al-Nour :30)
So according to the Holy verse , a man and a woman should lower their gaze when looking at each other ."
Looking at woman has a biological effect that unless it is released in the licit way , it will lead to biological and trouble troubles .
The following study gives brief information on the bad effects ensued from long looking at woman or not lowering the gaze of the eye :
Increasingly Hormoneswill go on to be secreted and the desire of fulfilling the sexual desire will increase , the nervous system will be affected and the number of heart beats will increase heart overexertion because of catecholamine .
The increase of these hormones leads to the inflammation of thyroid gland and many other damages .
Statistics say that :
* (40%) among those separate from their wives .
* (50%) suffer financial problems
* (27%-40%)lose their jobs
* Even those who do not divorce their wives practice adultery with other partners
* This also leads to impotency , weakness of erection.
* Watching exciting sights will make erection much weaker on the third day if compared with the first day .
* The harmonic change that accompany sexual excitation causes bad bodily and psychological change if doesn't find its way out .
Also women are to lower their gazes , they should not look at men . it was once that prophet was sitting with his wife and another woman when a blind man came to the prophet for something , the prophet asked the ladies to move to another room ..they said why ? …isn't he blind …the prophet scolded them saying are you blind?!!!In fact not looking at women will solve many of these problems .
Prophet Mohummed said that whoever lower the gaze of his eyes (when looking at woman ) will find belief sweetness in his heart "
for further horrible pictures of sexually
Search the Internet for sexually transmitted diseases
((( Praise be to Allah, for the blessing of Islam )))
But
Ask not For what befalls you AIDS....
OR
Why do your children look as if they were from a another man
OK
The second thing
See why the act of adultery with people
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known in certain people without them being overtaken by plague and disease that never happened to their ancestors who came before them.”(Reported by Ibn Majah.) He (peace be upon him) also said:
“Whenever adultery becomes a widespread phenomena among certain people, death will spread among them.”(Reported by Malik.)
Understanding the Holy Hadith and its prophecy in terms of the status que
sexual perversion become widespread
To understand this , we will talk about Sex in America:
* 134,000 new cases of syphilis are occurring each year, the highest infection rate in 40 years.
* 1.3 million new gonorrhea cases occur annually.
* 24 million new cases of human papilloma virus (HPV) occur annually, including a high percentage among teens.
* 63% of all sexually transmitted disease (STD) cases occur among people less than 25 years of age.
* AIDS is the leading killer of Americans between the ages of 25 and 44.
* protection against an STD called the human papillloma virus (HPV). HPV Condoms provide virtually no is the most common medical problem seen by gynecologists and causes almost all cervical cancer in the U.S.
The humanity has never been inflicted by a debacle as the debacle of permissiveness ; adultery , sodomy , incest and lesbianism have become rampant everywhere in the societies that kept themselves away from God's law .
Prophet Mohummed part of the Hadith says "“Never does sexual perversion become widespread and publicly known(admitted ) refers to this widely spread and admitted permissiveness in non-Moslem society . The problem began when such societies backslides the true path to God and began to adopt secularism and all its implicitly concepts ; Media has played the worst rule in spreading this heinous crime; many TV series , programmes , forums were televised praising promiscuity and adultery ; in these forum they listened to the word of scientists who always recommended it and even sais that adultery may be they way release the suppressed wills and thus the solution to many psychological troubles . Many books and lectures were authored in favour of this crime . What adds insult to injury is that the mass media has inculcated in the minds of people that young men and women should not remain chaste. Chastity has become a shame in Western societies. Sexual permissiveness is propagated and supported everywhere in the media.
Association are established every where and laws are enacted for defending those people . private clubs and parks and shores were made for those people to practice this heinous crime .Recent statistics says that the watching sexual sights has increased due to the web sites , the number of these pages amounts to 230 millions pages which form (7%) of the total web pages .
. The recent reports of the international health organization says that sex diseases are the most widely spread diseases in the world and it is the most horrible diseases that face the west ; the number of the inflicted among different ages are increasing. Dr George Gold says that four persons are inflicted with sex diseases in every second all over the world while Dr George Kous says that the true numbers are far more than this adding that the number can't be one fourth or even one tenth the true number . DR Gold in his book says " All these hopes that depended on our modern medical instruments and medication in eradicating or at least limiting the dangers of sex diseases went into smoke …the reasons that lie behind these disease lie in the social human behavior change .
The voices of the wise are fading away while the enemies of humanity are becoming louder and louder ; it is now considered in the western society that a person who did not practice adultery before marriage is abnormal person .
In his book " sex diseases , Dr shnowfield says " society condones the forbidden sexual acts; shyness is no longer there when talking about adultery in public , decency become old worn-out habit , media nurses the concept of licentiousness claiming that it is a biological necessity . Adultery has become a common place even in the church , many priests and non commit this heinous crime in the time they are supposed examples to be followed , The Daily Mails says that more than 80% of the monks , nuns and priests practice adultery and (40%) practice homosexuality ..In US , some churches allows marriage between man and man .
God sends plagues that were not among their forefathers
there are many diseases that have never been there before , these diseases caused many deaths , the danger of these diseases lies in the fact that the germs that cause these diseases modify themselves .we will talk about the most commo of these diseases .
(1) Aids
It is among the plagues which the prophet predicted to appear in the nations that commit adultery . The word "plague " used to refer to the diseases that are impossible to be cured.
Picture of the aids virus
HIV/AIDS is causing untold human suffering. In some countries, it is also reversing decades of development progress. Since the late 1970s, more than 23 million people have lost their lives to the disease; by 2010, the cumulative toll is expected to rise to 45 million. By that time infant and child mortality rates will have doubled in the worst-hit countries; HIV/AIDS will deal a crippling blow to these countries’ societies, economies and stability as their key human resources – their farmers, doctors, teachers, intellectuals, entrepreneurs, civil servants, community leaders and police officers – fall sick and die.
While the epidemic’s evolution has varied across regions, there is one common denominator: HIV/AIDS is increasingly a disease of the young and most vulnerable, particularly girls.HIV/AIDS is increasingly a disease of the young and most vulnerable, particularly girls. Of the 5 million new infections in 2002, half were among young people. More than a third of all people living with HIV/AIDS are under the age of 25, and almost two-thirds of them are women. AIDS has orphaned 14 million children, and left millions more extremely vulnerable. Almost 2,000 infants became HIV-positive every day last year either during pregnancy, birth, or through breastfeeding.
Most researchers believe that HIV originated in sub-Saharan Africa during the twentieth century;[4] it is now a pandemic, with an estimated 38.6 million people now living with the disease worldwide. As of January 2006, the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) and the World Health Organization (WHO) estimate that AIDS has killed more than 25 million people since it was first recognized on June 5, 1981, making it one of the most destructive epidemics in recorded history. In 2005 alone, AIDS claimed an estimated 2.4–3.3 million lives.
Aids is a disease caused by a invisible virus that can be seen by electronic telescope after being magnified thousands of times , this virus has untold ability to conquer cells and to divide itself in these cells through controlling the secrets of genes in these cells . this virus attacks (T4) cells which are the backbone and the mind of immunity system ,leaving it completely destroyed thus destroying the infested persons
This fatal virus focus its attack on (T4) leaving it completely paralyzed and then begin to increase its number after decoding the codes of its genes , next a large number of this virus come out to attack new cells then and what is rally astonishing is that another large number (T4) begins suicide when receiving information that the virus has invaded one of them and so all the mechanism of immunity system begin to .
After the destruction of immunity system , a large number of germs begin to attack the human body fiercely causing many diseases everywhere , many diseases begin to rise their head , these are some of ensuing diseases :
Abdominal cramps, nausea, or vomiting. Diarrhea. Enlarged lymph nodes in the neck, armpits, and groin. Fever. Headache. Muscle aches and joint pain. Skin rash. Sore throat. Weight loss. Confusion Diarrhea or other bowel changes Difficulty concentrating ,Dry cough ,Fatigue , Fever , Loss of appetite ,Mouth sores Nail changes ,Night sweats ,Swollen lymph nodes in the neck, armpits, and groin ,Pain when swallowing , Personality changes , Repeated outbreaks of herpes simplex ,Shortness of breath ,Tingling, numbness, and weakness in the limbs ,Unexplained weight loss ,Yeast infection of the mouth (thrush) ,pneumonia or cancer, which are more likely to develop when you have a weakened immune system.
http://www.55a.net/firas/en1/images/stories/90284img1.jpg
This disease is known among those who practiced adultery in countries where they enacted laws for defending adultery ; this disease is modifying itself so fast and that makes the possibility of finding decisive medication impossible .
* Didn't prophet Mohummed tell us of that and warned the humanity against that ?
* Isn't clear that all the transmitted sexual diseases are God's punishment ?
* Aren't only human being ,among all the creatures, likely to be infected with these diseases …..(why not animal) ?
* Isn't that clear that this is God's punishment ?
* Isn't that in complete conformity with what prophet Mohummmed said?
* Humanity is unable to make any vaccination for these diseases as they change themselves continuously
(2) syphilis :
Since its appearance in 1494, the plague of syphilis has taken the lives of millions of people and destroyed the future of many others. The virus causing this disease is still changing itself and attacking people from time to time .Syphilis is an infection that is usually acquired through sexual contact with another infected person. Syphilis can be frightening because if it goes untreated, it can lead to serious health problems and increase a person's risk for HIV, the human immunodeficiency virus that causes AIDS.
(3)Gonorrhea , this can be caused by :
* vaginal or anal sex with an infected partner
* oral sex, although this is less common .
* sharing sex toys.
* touching parts of the body with fingers (for example, touching the private parts and then the eyes)
* any very close physical contact .
* the bacteria can be passed from hand to hand (very rare isolated cases)
* from a mother to her baby at birth
* You can NOT catch it from simple kissing, sharing baths, towels, cups, or from toilet seats
(4)Herpes infections, whether initial or recurring, are usually first felt as a tingling and/or itching sensation in the affected location. These initial feelings are usually followed, depending on how severe the infection is, by the emergence of a raised or swollen area on the skin. This swollen area then becomes painful in general, but acutely sore when touched, stretched or moved. Eventually the sore area will abscess, and emit a virus laden clear fluid for several days before scabbing over. Once scabbed over the lesion will usually heal completely within a period of a week to ten days. In immuno-compromised individuals this cycle can be significantly protracted.
From the onset of infection/outbreak, many patients experience headaches, fatigue (sometimes extreme), and peculiar twitching sensations in the nerves that lead to the area of the outbreak. The fatigue associated with herpes infections can concatenate with depression brought on by the cosmetic or sexually compromising nature of the infection, to yield a deeply gloomy overall mental state that some believe can contribute to increasing the length and severity of an infection.
The Islamic solution to adultery
God says in the Holy Quran what means "Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do. ( Al-Nour :30)
So according to the Holy verse , a man and a woman should lower their gaze when looking at each other ."
Looking at woman has a biological effect that unless it is released in the licit way , it will lead to biological and trouble troubles .
The following study gives brief information on the bad effects ensued from long looking at woman or not lowering the gaze of the eye :
Increasingly Hormoneswill go on to be secreted and the desire of fulfilling the sexual desire will increase , the nervous system will be affected and the number of heart beats will increase heart overexertion because of catecholamine .
The increase of these hormones leads to the inflammation of thyroid gland and many other damages .
Statistics say that :
* (40%) among those separate from their wives .
* (50%) suffer financial problems
* (27%-40%)lose their jobs
* Even those who do not divorce their wives practice adultery with other partners
* This also leads to impotency , weakness of erection.
* Watching exciting sights will make erection much weaker on the third day if compared with the first day .
* The harmonic change that accompany sexual excitation causes bad bodily and psychological change if doesn't find its way out .
Also women are to lower their gazes , they should not look at men . it was once that prophet was sitting with his wife and another woman when a blind man came to the prophet for something , the prophet asked the ladies to move to another room ..they said why ? …isn't he blind …the prophet scolded them saying are you blind?!!!In fact not looking at women will solve many of these problems .
Prophet Mohummed said that whoever lower the gaze of his eyes (when looking at woman ) will find belief sweetness in his heart "
for further horrible pictures of sexually
Search the Internet for sexually transmitted diseases
((( Praise be to Allah, for the blessing of Islam )))
Can we please ban this idiot?
[QUOTE=]This statistic in 1988
One out of three girls, and one out of seven boys, are sexually abused by the time they reach the age of eighteen 1988[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Child sexual abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
United States and Europe
Child sexual abuse occurs frequently in Western society.[136][137] The rate of prevalence can be difficult to determine.[138][139][140] In the UK it is estimated at about 8% for boys and 12% for girls.[141] The estimates for the United States vary widely. A literature review of 23 studies found rates of 3% to 37% for males and 8% to 71% for females, which produced an average of 17% for boys and 28% for girls,[142] while a statistical analysis based on 16 cross-sectional studies estimated the rate to be 7.2% for males and 14.5% for females.[15] The US Department of Health and Human Services reported 83,600 substantiated reports of sexually abused children in 2005.[143][144] Including incidents which were not reported would make the total number even larger.[145]
Surveys have shown that one fifth to one third of all women reported some sort of childhood sexual experience with a male adult.[146] A 1992 survey studying father-daughter incest in Finland reported that of the 9,000 15-year old high school girls who filled out the questionnaires, of the girls living with their biological fathers, 0.2% reported father-daughter incest experiences; of the girls living with a stepfather, 3.7% reported sexual experiences with him. The reported counts included only father-daughter incest and did not include prevalence of other forms of child sexual abuse. The survey summary stated, "the feelings of the girls about their incestual experiences are overwhelmingly negative."[147] Others argue that prevalence rates are much higher, and that many cases of child abuse are never reported. One study found that professionals failed to report approximately 40% of the child sexual abuse cases they encountered.[148] A study by Lawson & Chaffin indicated that many children who were sexually abused were "identified solely by a physical complaint that was later diagnosed as a venereal disease...Only 43% of the children who were diagnosed with venereal disease made a verbal disclosure of sexual abuse during the initial interview."[149] It has been found in the epidemiological literature on CSA that there is no identifiable demographic or family characteristic of a child that can be used to bar the prospect that a child has been sexually abused.[138]
In schools
In US schools, according to the US Department of Education[150], "nearly 9.6% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career." In studies of student sex abuse by male and female educators, male students were reported as targets in ranges from 23% to 44%.[150] In U.S. school settings same-sex (female and male) sexual misconduct against students by educators "ranges from 18-28% of reported cases, depending on the study"[151][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AMERICAN RAPE STATISTICS
]
Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.
In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault. (NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of a rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)
The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.)
SILENT VICTIMS :
One of the most startling aspects of sex crimes is how many go unreported. The most common reasons given by women for not reporting these crimes are the belief that it is a private or personal matter and the fear of reprisal from the assailant.
Approximately 28% of victims are raped by husbands or boyfriends, 35% by acquaintances, and 5% by other relatives. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994)
The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.
In 1994-1995, only 251,560 rapes and sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement officials -- less than one in every three. (National Crime Victimization Survey, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
An overwhelming majority of rape service agencies believe that public education about rape, and expanded counseling and advocacy services for rape victims, would be effective in increasing the willingness of victims to report rapes to the police. (Rape in America, 1992, National Victim Center with Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center.)
LIVING IN FEAR :
According to the U.S. Department of Justice: (All statistics are taken from: Violenceagainst Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)
One of every four rapes take place in a public area or in a parking garage.
31% of female victims reported that the offender was a stranger.
68% of rapes occur between the hours of 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.
At least 45% of rapists were under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
In 29% of rapes, the offender used a weapon.
In 47% of rapes, the victim sustained injuries other than rape injuries.
75% of female rape victims require medical care after the attack.
NOT JUST A FAMILY MATTER :
Family violence and abuse are among the most prevalent forms of interpersonal violence against women and young children -- both boys and girls. The sexual abuse of a child should never be "just a family matter," but many children are afraid to report an incident to the police because the abusers are too often a family friend or relative.
Approximately one-third of all juvenile victims of sexual abuse cases are children younger than 6 years of age. (Violence and the Family, Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family, 1996.)
According to the Justice Department, one in two rape victims are under age 18; one in six are under age 12. (Child Rape Victims, 1992. U.S. Department of Justice.)
FACE OF AMERICA :
About 81% of rape victims are white; 18% are black; 1% are of other races. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)
About half of all rape victims are in the lowest third of income distribution; half are in the upper two-thirds. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)
There were 71 forcible rapes per 100,000 females reported to United States law enforcement agencies in 1996. 2
Data from the National Women's Study, a longitudinal telephone survey of a national household probability sample of women at least 18 years of age, show 683,000 women forcibly raped each year and that 84% of rape victims did not report the offense to the police.3
Using Uniform Crime Report data for 1994 and 1995, the Bureau of Justice Statistics found that of rape victims who reported the offense to law enforcement, about 40% were under the age of 18, and 15% were younger than 12.4
In a national survey 27.7% of college women reported a sexual experience since the age of fourteen that met the legal definition of rape or attempted rape, and 7.7% of college men reported perpetrating aggressive behavior which met the legal definition of rape.5
The National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that for 1992-1993, 92% of rapes were committed by known assailants.1 About half of all rapes and sexual assaults against women are committed by friends and acquaintances, and 26% are by intimate partners.1
Risk factors for perpetrating sexual violence include: early sexual experience (both forced and voluntary),6 adherence by men to sex role stereotyping,7,8 negative attitudes of men towards women,6,9,,10,11,12, alcohol consumption,8,13 acceptance of rape myths by men.8,9,12,14,15
Non-forceful verbal resistance and lack of resistance are associated with rape completion.1,6
The adult pregnancy rate associated with rape is estimated to be 4.7%. This information, in conjunction with estimates based on the U.S. Census, suggest that there may be 32,101 annual rape-related pregnancies among American women over the age of 18.17
Non-genital physical injuries occur in approximately 40% of completed rape cases.18 As many as 3% of all rape cases have non-genital injuries requiring overnight hospitalization.19
Victims of rape often manifest long-term symptoms of chronic headaches,18,20fatigue20, sleep disturbance20, recurrent nausea,20 decreased appetite,21 eating disorders,22 menstrual pain,18 sexual dysfunction,23 and suicide attempts.21 In a longitudinal study, sexual assault was found to increase the odds of substance abuse by a factor of 2.5.24
Estimates of the occurrence of sexually transmitted diseases resulting from rape range from 3.6% to 30%.18,22 HIV transmission risk rate from rape is estimated at 1 in 500,22,25 although a few probable cases have been documented in Sweden and Great Britain. 26,27
Victims of marital or date rape are 11 times more likely to be clinically depressed, and 6 times more likely to experience social phobia than are non-victims. Psychological problems are still evident in cases as long as 15 years after the assault.28
Fatalities occur in about 0.1% of all rape cases.29,30
A study examining the use of health services over a five year period by female members of a health maintenance program found that the number of visits to physicians by rape victims increased 56% in the year following the crime, compared to a 2% utilization increase by non-victims.31
The National Public Services Research Institute estimates the lifetime cost for each rape with physical injuries which occurred in 1987 to be $60,000.32 [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RAINN: The nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization.]
In 2007, there were 248,300 victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.1 (These figures do not include victims 12 years old or younger.)
Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted.
Here's the math. According to the U.S. Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey -- the country's largest and most reliable crime study -- there were 248,300 sexual assaults in 2007 (the most recent data available).
There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 248,300 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 127 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes.
The Unvictims
Sexual Assault has decreased by 60%
Sexual assault has fallen by more than 60% in recent years.2 Had the 1993 rate held steady, 6.8 million Americans would have been assaulted in the last 13 years.
But, thanks to the decline, the actual number of victims was about 4.2 million. In other words, if not for the historic gains we've made in the last decade, an additional 2,546,420 Americans would have become victims of sexual violence.
_________________________________________________________
References
1. U.S. Department of Justice. 2007 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2007.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RAINN: The nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization.]Who are the Victims?
Breakdown by Gender and Age
Women
1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1
17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.2
While about 80% of all victims are white, minorities are somewhat more likely to be attacked.
Lifetime rate of rape /attempted rape for women by race:1
* All women: 17.6%
* White women: 17.7%
* Black women: 18.8%
* Asian Pacific Islander women: 6.8%
* American Indian/Alaskan women: 34.1%
* Mixed race women: 24.4%
Men
About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.1
* In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male.2
* 2.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape.1
Children
15% of sexual assault and rape victims are under age 12.3
* 29% are age 12-17.
* 44% are under age 18.3
* 80% are under age 30.3
* 12-34 are the highest risk years.
* Girls ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.
7% of girls in grades 5-8 and 12% of girls in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.4
* 3% of boys grades 5-8 and 5% of boys in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.
In 1995, local child protection service agencies identified 126,000 children who were victims of either substantiated or indicated sexual abuse.5
* Of these, 75% were girls.
* Nearly 30% of child victims were between the age of 4 and 7.
93% of juvenile sexual assault victims know their attacker.6
* 34.2% of attackers were family members.
* 58.7% were acquaintances.
* Only 7% of the perpetrators were strangers to the victim.
Effects of Rape
Victims of sexual assault are:7
3 times more likely to suffer from depression.
6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder.
13 times more likely to abuse alcohol.
26 times more likely to abuse drugs.
4 times more likely to contemplate suicide.
Pregnancies Resulting from Rape
In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped.8 According to medical reports, the incidence of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of rape during that period.
This calculation does not account for the following factors which could lower the actual number of pregnancies:
* Rape, as defined by the NCVS, is forced sexual intercourse. Forced sexual intercourse means vaginal, oral, or ### penetration by offender(s). This category includes incidents where the penetration is from a foreign object such as a bottle. Certain types of rape under this definition cannot cause pregnancy.
* Some victims of rape may be utilizing birth control methods, such as the pill, which will prevent pregnancy.
* Some rapists may wear condoms in an effort to avoid DNA detection.
* Vicims of rape may not be able to become pregnant for medical or age-related reasons.
This calculation does not account for the following factors which could raise the actual number of pregnancies:
* Medical estimates of a 5% pregnancy rate are for one-time, unprotected sexual intercourse. Some victimizations may include multiple incidents of intercourse.
* Because of methodology, NCVS does not measure the victimization of Americans age 12 or younger. Rapes of these young people could results in pregnancies not accounted for in RAINN's estimates.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
References
1. National Institute of Justice & Centers for Disease Control & Prevention. Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey. 1998.
2. U.S. Department of Justice. 2003 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2003.
3. U.S. Department of Justice. 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2004.
4. 1998 Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls. 1998.
5. U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Administration for Children and Families. 1995 Child Maltreatment Survey. 1995.
6. U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics. 2000 Sexual Assault of Young Children as Reported to Law Enforcement. 2000.
7. World Health Organization. 2002.
8. U.S. Department of Justice. 2005 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2005.
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* In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes ech month and 683,280 rapes each year.
* 1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime.
* The United States has the world's highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. It's 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan.
* 1 in 7 women will be raped by her husband.
* 83% of rape cases are ages 24 or under.
* 1 in 4 college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.
* 1 in 12 males students surveyed had commited acts that met the legal definition of rape. Furthermore, 84% of the men who had commited such acts said what they had done was definitely not rape.
* 75% of male students and 55% of female students involved in acquintance rape had been drinking or using drugs.
* Only 16% of rapes are ever reported to the police. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=]A MAN who had sex with his daughter from the age of six fronted the County Court in Ballarat yesterday for a plea hearing.
The 33-year-old Ballarat man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, pleaded guilty in May to three counts of incest and one count of assault.
The court was told the man committed the offences against his daughter in 1993 when she was six years old, and last year when she was 15[/QUOTE]
I think that this is sufficient AND There is no need for further
Right
((( Praise be to Allah, for the blessing of Islam )))
One out of three girls, and one out of seven boys, are sexually abused by the time they reach the age of eighteen 1988[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Child sexual abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
United States and Europe
Child sexual abuse occurs frequently in Western society.[136][137] The rate of prevalence can be difficult to determine.[138][139][140] In the UK it is estimated at about 8% for boys and 12% for girls.[141] The estimates for the United States vary widely. A literature review of 23 studies found rates of 3% to 37% for males and 8% to 71% for females, which produced an average of 17% for boys and 28% for girls,[142] while a statistical analysis based on 16 cross-sectional studies estimated the rate to be 7.2% for males and 14.5% for females.[15] The US Department of Health and Human Services reported 83,600 substantiated reports of sexually abused children in 2005.[143][144] Including incidents which were not reported would make the total number even larger.[145]
Surveys have shown that one fifth to one third of all women reported some sort of childhood sexual experience with a male adult.[146] A 1992 survey studying father-daughter incest in Finland reported that of the 9,000 15-year old high school girls who filled out the questionnaires, of the girls living with their biological fathers, 0.2% reported father-daughter incest experiences; of the girls living with a stepfather, 3.7% reported sexual experiences with him. The reported counts included only father-daughter incest and did not include prevalence of other forms of child sexual abuse. The survey summary stated, "the feelings of the girls about their incestual experiences are overwhelmingly negative."[147] Others argue that prevalence rates are much higher, and that many cases of child abuse are never reported. One study found that professionals failed to report approximately 40% of the child sexual abuse cases they encountered.[148] A study by Lawson & Chaffin indicated that many children who were sexually abused were "identified solely by a physical complaint that was later diagnosed as a venereal disease...Only 43% of the children who were diagnosed with venereal disease made a verbal disclosure of sexual abuse during the initial interview."[149] It has been found in the epidemiological literature on CSA that there is no identifiable demographic or family characteristic of a child that can be used to bar the prospect that a child has been sexually abused.[138]
In schools
In US schools, according to the US Department of Education[150], "nearly 9.6% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career." In studies of student sex abuse by male and female educators, male students were reported as targets in ranges from 23% to 44%.[150] In U.S. school settings same-sex (female and male) sexual misconduct against students by educators "ranges from 18-28% of reported cases, depending on the study"[151][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AMERICAN RAPE STATISTICS
]
Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.
In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault. (NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of a rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)
The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.)
SILENT VICTIMS :
One of the most startling aspects of sex crimes is how many go unreported. The most common reasons given by women for not reporting these crimes are the belief that it is a private or personal matter and the fear of reprisal from the assailant.
Approximately 28% of victims are raped by husbands or boyfriends, 35% by acquaintances, and 5% by other relatives. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994)
The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.
In 1994-1995, only 251,560 rapes and sexual assaults were reported to law enforcement officials -- less than one in every three. (National Crime Victimization Survey, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)
An overwhelming majority of rape service agencies believe that public education about rape, and expanded counseling and advocacy services for rape victims, would be effective in increasing the willingness of victims to report rapes to the police. (Rape in America, 1992, National Victim Center with Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center.)
LIVING IN FEAR :
According to the U.S. Department of Justice: (All statistics are taken from: Violenceagainst Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)
One of every four rapes take place in a public area or in a parking garage.
31% of female victims reported that the offender was a stranger.
68% of rapes occur between the hours of 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.
At least 45% of rapists were under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
In 29% of rapes, the offender used a weapon.
In 47% of rapes, the victim sustained injuries other than rape injuries.
75% of female rape victims require medical care after the attack.
NOT JUST A FAMILY MATTER :
Family violence and abuse are among the most prevalent forms of interpersonal violence against women and young children -- both boys and girls. The sexual abuse of a child should never be "just a family matter," but many children are afraid to report an incident to the police because the abusers are too often a family friend or relative.
Approximately one-third of all juvenile victims of sexual abuse cases are children younger than 6 years of age. (Violence and the Family, Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family, 1996.)
According to the Justice Department, one in two rape victims are under age 18; one in six are under age 12. (Child Rape Victims, 1992. U.S. Department of Justice.)
FACE OF AMERICA :
About 81% of rape victims are white; 18% are black; 1% are of other races. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)
About half of all rape victims are in the lowest third of income distribution; half are in the upper two-thirds. (Violence against Women, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Dept. of Justice, 1994.)
There were 71 forcible rapes per 100,000 females reported to United States law enforcement agencies in 1996. 2
Data from the National Women's Study, a longitudinal telephone survey of a national household probability sample of women at least 18 years of age, show 683,000 women forcibly raped each year and that 84% of rape victims did not report the offense to the police.3
Using Uniform Crime Report data for 1994 and 1995, the Bureau of Justice Statistics found that of rape victims who reported the offense to law enforcement, about 40% were under the age of 18, and 15% were younger than 12.4
In a national survey 27.7% of college women reported a sexual experience since the age of fourteen that met the legal definition of rape or attempted rape, and 7.7% of college men reported perpetrating aggressive behavior which met the legal definition of rape.5
The National Crime Victimization Survey indicates that for 1992-1993, 92% of rapes were committed by known assailants.1 About half of all rapes and sexual assaults against women are committed by friends and acquaintances, and 26% are by intimate partners.1
Risk factors for perpetrating sexual violence include: early sexual experience (both forced and voluntary),6 adherence by men to sex role stereotyping,7,8 negative attitudes of men towards women,6,9,,10,11,12, alcohol consumption,8,13 acceptance of rape myths by men.8,9,12,14,15
Non-forceful verbal resistance and lack of resistance are associated with rape completion.1,6
The adult pregnancy rate associated with rape is estimated to be 4.7%. This information, in conjunction with estimates based on the U.S. Census, suggest that there may be 32,101 annual rape-related pregnancies among American women over the age of 18.17
Non-genital physical injuries occur in approximately 40% of completed rape cases.18 As many as 3% of all rape cases have non-genital injuries requiring overnight hospitalization.19
Victims of rape often manifest long-term symptoms of chronic headaches,18,20fatigue20, sleep disturbance20, recurrent nausea,20 decreased appetite,21 eating disorders,22 menstrual pain,18 sexual dysfunction,23 and suicide attempts.21 In a longitudinal study, sexual assault was found to increase the odds of substance abuse by a factor of 2.5.24
Estimates of the occurrence of sexually transmitted diseases resulting from rape range from 3.6% to 30%.18,22 HIV transmission risk rate from rape is estimated at 1 in 500,22,25 although a few probable cases have been documented in Sweden and Great Britain. 26,27
Victims of marital or date rape are 11 times more likely to be clinically depressed, and 6 times more likely to experience social phobia than are non-victims. Psychological problems are still evident in cases as long as 15 years after the assault.28
Fatalities occur in about 0.1% of all rape cases.29,30
A study examining the use of health services over a five year period by female members of a health maintenance program found that the number of visits to physicians by rape victims increased 56% in the year following the crime, compared to a 2% utilization increase by non-victims.31
The National Public Services Research Institute estimates the lifetime cost for each rape with physical injuries which occurred in 1987 to be $60,000.32 [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RAINN: The nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization.]
In 2007, there were 248,300 victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.1 (These figures do not include victims 12 years old or younger.)
Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted.
Here's the math. According to the U.S. Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey -- the country's largest and most reliable crime study -- there were 248,300 sexual assaults in 2007 (the most recent data available).
There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 248,300 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 127 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes.
The Unvictims
Sexual Assault has decreased by 60%
Sexual assault has fallen by more than 60% in recent years.2 Had the 1993 rate held steady, 6.8 million Americans would have been assaulted in the last 13 years.
But, thanks to the decline, the actual number of victims was about 4.2 million. In other words, if not for the historic gains we've made in the last decade, an additional 2,546,420 Americans would have become victims of sexual violence.
_________________________________________________________
References
1. U.S. Department of Justice. 2007 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2007.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RAINN: The nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization.]Who are the Victims?
Breakdown by Gender and Age
Women
1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1
17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.2
While about 80% of all victims are white, minorities are somewhat more likely to be attacked.
Lifetime rate of rape /attempted rape for women by race:1
* All women: 17.6%
* White women: 17.7%
* Black women: 18.8%
* Asian Pacific Islander women: 6.8%
* American Indian/Alaskan women: 34.1%
* Mixed race women: 24.4%
Men
About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.1
* In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male.2
* 2.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape.1
Children
15% of sexual assault and rape victims are under age 12.3
* 29% are age 12-17.
* 44% are under age 18.3
* 80% are under age 30.3
* 12-34 are the highest risk years.
* Girls ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.
7% of girls in grades 5-8 and 12% of girls in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.4
* 3% of boys grades 5-8 and 5% of boys in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.
In 1995, local child protection service agencies identified 126,000 children who were victims of either substantiated or indicated sexual abuse.5
* Of these, 75% were girls.
* Nearly 30% of child victims were between the age of 4 and 7.
93% of juvenile sexual assault victims know their attacker.6
* 34.2% of attackers were family members.
* 58.7% were acquaintances.
* Only 7% of the perpetrators were strangers to the victim.
Effects of Rape
Victims of sexual assault are:7
3 times more likely to suffer from depression.
6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder.
13 times more likely to abuse alcohol.
26 times more likely to abuse drugs.
4 times more likely to contemplate suicide.
Pregnancies Resulting from Rape
In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped.8 According to medical reports, the incidence of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of rape during that period.
This calculation does not account for the following factors which could lower the actual number of pregnancies:
* Rape, as defined by the NCVS, is forced sexual intercourse. Forced sexual intercourse means vaginal, oral, or ### penetration by offender(s). This category includes incidents where the penetration is from a foreign object such as a bottle. Certain types of rape under this definition cannot cause pregnancy.
* Some victims of rape may be utilizing birth control methods, such as the pill, which will prevent pregnancy.
* Some rapists may wear condoms in an effort to avoid DNA detection.
* Vicims of rape may not be able to become pregnant for medical or age-related reasons.
This calculation does not account for the following factors which could raise the actual number of pregnancies:
* Medical estimates of a 5% pregnancy rate are for one-time, unprotected sexual intercourse. Some victimizations may include multiple incidents of intercourse.
* Because of methodology, NCVS does not measure the victimization of Americans age 12 or younger. Rapes of these young people could results in pregnancies not accounted for in RAINN's estimates.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
References
1. National Institute of Justice & Centers for Disease Control & Prevention. Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey. 1998.
2. U.S. Department of Justice. 2003 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2003.
3. U.S. Department of Justice. 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2004.
4. 1998 Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls. 1998.
5. U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Administration for Children and Families. 1995 Child Maltreatment Survey. 1995.
6. U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics. 2000 Sexual Assault of Young Children as Reported to Law Enforcement. 2000.
7. World Health Organization. 2002.
8. U.S. Department of Justice. 2005 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2005.
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* In the United States, 1.3 women are raped every minute. That results in 78 rapes each hour, 1872 rapes each day, 56160 rapes ech month and 683,280 rapes each year.
* 1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assulted in her lifetime.
* The United States has the world's highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. It's 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan.
* 1 in 7 women will be raped by her husband.
* 83% of rape cases are ages 24 or under.
* 1 in 4 college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.
* 1 in 12 males students surveyed had commited acts that met the legal definition of rape. Furthermore, 84% of the men who had commited such acts said what they had done was definitely not rape.
* 75% of male students and 55% of female students involved in acquintance rape had been drinking or using drugs.
* Only 16% of rapes are ever reported to the police. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=]A MAN who had sex with his daughter from the age of six fronted the County Court in Ballarat yesterday for a plea hearing.
The 33-year-old Ballarat man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, pleaded guilty in May to three counts of incest and one count of assault.
The court was told the man committed the offences against his daughter in 1993 when she was six years old, and last year when she was 15[/QUOTE]
I think that this is sufficient AND There is no need for further
Right
((( Praise be to Allah, for the blessing of Islam )))
So... you are saying that Muslims don't commit rape or adultery or child abuse? 
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 6 2009, 01:47 AM)
But
Ask not For what befalls you AIDS....
It's usually the men more than the women that are the cause, so why are women punished much more than men?
That really sounds like something a man posing as a God would say, not what a God would say.
Ask not For what befalls you AIDS....
It's usually the men more than the women that are the cause, so why are women punished much more than men?
That really sounds like something a man posing as a God would say, not what a God would say.
QUOTE (buttershug+Dec 6 2009, 01:31 AM)
How exactly is the Koran a miracle?
The Quran is a Divine Miracle of Literature [Prophesy - Science - Warnings - Wisdom - Truths]...and it has been Preserved 100% In the Original Language - for over 1,400 years!
Humanity has received Divine Guidance only through two channels:
The Word of Almighty God ("Allah" [in Arabic]) [scriptures, Bible, Psalms, etc.]
The Prophets sent by the Allah to communicate His Will to mankind
These two things have always been going together, hand in hand.
More important though, there were at that time, tens of thousands of his companions ("sahabi" in Arabic) who memorized the complete Quran from the instruction of the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Even the prophet himself (peace be upon him) used to recite it with angel Gabriel once a year and in the last year of his life he recited it two times just before the month in which he died.
Next, the leader who came after the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (Abu Bakr) entrusted the collection of the Quran to be written in one volume by one of the Prophet's scribe, Zaid Ibn Thabit. He kept it till his death. Then the next leader, Umar and after him to his daughter, Hafsa who had been one of the wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Then from the original text which now resides in Topkope Museum, in Istanbul, Turkey, the next leader, Uthman prepared several other exact duplications and sent them to various Muslim territories such as; Uzbekistan and Turkey and other places. These scriptures are still in museums there and one has found its way to a museum in England as well. All of them are exactly the same. Today many of the Muslims from these areas are still memorizing the Quran.
The Quran was so meticulously preserved because it is the Book of Guidance for all of humanity for all times. That is why it does not address just the Arabs, in whose language it was revealed. In fact Arabs today do not comprise more than 13% of the Today of Muslims in the world today.
http://www.allahsquran.com/all_about_the_quran.php
QUOTE (buttershug+Dec 6 2009, 01:31 AM)
Is the Book of Mormon a miracle as well?
I hope that the retreat FYI Prior to publication
so as not to waste time searching for something that is true
Searched for the Book of Mormon
And after fatigue came up the following:
At best (((re-translation of part of the Torah)))
But more than that
Say (((that the book was stolen from an unpublished manuscript written by Solomon Spalding.)))
But more than that
(((That the book is a story of fiction))
Read a statement by the Smithsonian Institution
(((A statement on the Book of Mormon)))
But more than that
((( there are a lot of books that are similar to the Book of Mormon )))
and
((( Smith could not be a prophet of God, because many of Smith's prophecies failed to come true.)))
I hope that the retreat FYI Prior to publication
so as not to waste time searching for something that is true
Searched for the Book of Mormon
And after fatigue came up the following:
At best (((re-translation of part of the Torah)))
But more than that
Say (((that the book was stolen from an unpublished manuscript written by Solomon Spalding.)))
But more than that
(((That the book is a story of fiction))
Read a statement by the Smithsonian Institution
(((A statement on the Book of Mormon)))
QUOTE
The Smithsonian Institution issues a standard reply to requests for their opinion regarding the Book of Mormon as an archaeological or scientific guide. In brief the statement denies any evidence for pre-Columbian contact between Old and New Worlds: "Certainly there was no contact with the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews or other peoples of Western Asia or the Near East." In 1998, the Smithsonian began issuing a shorter letter without detailed response (which is found in the first letter) and limited its comment to briefly deny any use of the Book of Mormon as an archaeological guide by the institution.[47]
But more than that
((( there are a lot of books that are similar to the Book of Mormon )))
and
((( Smith could not be a prophet of God, because many of Smith's prophecies failed to come true.)))
QUOTE (buttershug+Dec 6 2009, 01:41 PM)
It's usually the men more than the women that are the cause, so why are women punished much more than men?
Punishment is not for women only, but to all men and women
Allah,said
Al-Noor
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
(Here is) a surah which We have revealed and enjoined, and wherein We have revealed plain tokens, that haply ye may take heed. (1) The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. (2) The adulterer shall not marry save an adulteress or an idolatress, and the adulteress none shall marry save an adulterer or an idolater. All that is forbidden unto believers. (3)
Allah,said
Al-Ahzab
Lo! men who surrender unto Allah, and women who surrender, and men who believe and women who believe, and men who obey and women who obey, and men who speak the truth and women who speak the truth, and men who persevere (in righteousness) and women who persevere, and men who are humble and women who are humble, and men who give alms and women who give alms, and men who fast and women who fast, and men who guard their modesty and women who guard (their modesty), and men who remember Allah much and women who remember - Allah hath prepared for them forgiveness and a vast reward. (35)
___________________________________________________________________________________
Allah,said
An-Nisa
Lo! Allah wrongeth not even of the weight of an ant; and if there is a good deed, He will double it and will give (the doer) from His presence an immense reward. (40)
Allah,said
Yunus
Lo! Allah wrongeth not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves. (44)
Allah,said
Al-Kahf
And the Book is placed, and thou seest the guilty fearful of that which is therein, and they say: What kind of a Book is this that leaveth not a small thing nor a great thing but hath counted it! And they find all that they did confronting them, and thy Lord wrongeth no-one. (49)
((( Islam is equal between men and women in terms of reward and punishment can not find one better than one
Because they were all slaves of Allaah )))
Punishment is not for women only, but to all men and women
Allah,said
Al-Noor
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
(Here is) a surah which We have revealed and enjoined, and wherein We have revealed plain tokens, that haply ye may take heed. (1) The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. (2) The adulterer shall not marry save an adulteress or an idolatress, and the adulteress none shall marry save an adulterer or an idolater. All that is forbidden unto believers. (3)
Allah,said
Al-Ahzab
Lo! men who surrender unto Allah, and women who surrender, and men who believe and women who believe, and men who obey and women who obey, and men who speak the truth and women who speak the truth, and men who persevere (in righteousness) and women who persevere, and men who are humble and women who are humble, and men who give alms and women who give alms, and men who fast and women who fast, and men who guard their modesty and women who guard (their modesty), and men who remember Allah much and women who remember - Allah hath prepared for them forgiveness and a vast reward. (35)
___________________________________________________________________________________
Allah,said
An-Nisa
Lo! Allah wrongeth not even of the weight of an ant; and if there is a good deed, He will double it and will give (the doer) from His presence an immense reward. (40)
Allah,said
Yunus
Lo! Allah wrongeth not mankind in aught; but mankind wrong themselves. (44)
Allah,said
Al-Kahf
And the Book is placed, and thou seest the guilty fearful of that which is therein, and they say: What kind of a Book is this that leaveth not a small thing nor a great thing but hath counted it! And they find all that they did confronting them, and thy Lord wrongeth no-one. (49)
((( Islam is equal between men and women in terms of reward and punishment can not find one better than one
Because they were all slaves of Allaah )))
QUOTE (ahmd+Dec 7 2009, 10:31 PM)
Punishment is not for women only, but to all men and women
Hendrix (peace be unto him) said "Let us stop talking falsely now, the hour is getting late."
From State Department report for UAE, 2005:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61701.htm
Domestic abuse against women was a pervasive problem, with one study in February indicating that as many as 66 percent of all women permanently residing in the UAE had been subjected to domestic abuse. Almost 34 percent of respondents age 18 to 30 claimed to have been abused by a family member, and over 50 percent of respondents said that they witnessed their mothers being abused in the home. Abuse and rape are criminal offenses, and offenders are prosecuted and penalized. There were press reports of spousal abuse, including a case reported in July in which a man was convicted for beating his wife to death, although he was only found guilty of involuntary manslaughter because the court found that he was within his rights to beat her as a form of discipline. Forcible rape is punishable by death under the Penal Code, but is often not recognized in Shari'a courts. Assault without intent to kill is punishable by 10 years in prison, seven years if it only results in disability, and one year if only resulting in temporary injury.
Hendrix (peace be unto him) said "Let us stop talking falsely now, the hour is getting late."
From State Department report for UAE, 2005:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61701.htm
QUOTE
Domestic abuse against women was a pervasive problem, with one study in February indicating that as many as 66 percent of all women permanently residing in the UAE had been subjected to domestic abuse. Almost 34 percent of respondents age 18 to 30 claimed to have been abused by a family member, and over 50 percent of respondents said that they witnessed their mothers being abused in the home. Abuse and rape are criminal offenses, and offenders are prosecuted and penalized. There were press reports of spousal abuse, including a case reported in July in which a man was convicted for beating his wife to death, although he was only found guilty of involuntary manslaughter because the court found that he was within his rights to beat her as a form of discipline. Forcible rape is punishable by death under the Penal Code, but is often not recognized in Shari'a courts. Assault without intent to kill is punishable by 10 years in prison, seven years if it only results in disability, and one year if only resulting in temporary injury.
QUOTE (orestis+Dec 8 2009, 04:30 PM)
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61701.htm
U.S. Department of State
Under Secretary for Democracy and Global Affairs > Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights
Lol
Lol
Lol
Are you stupid
No one is incredibly American
America's first state Not a democracy And there is no human rights
But more than that
America is a school for the education of all countries of the world how to Killing people and how to torture people by all means legal and illegal
of Killing children in Gaza
of Killing children in Iraq
of Killing children in Afghanistan
America and Israel are the ones who did it
Do you want a guide
I know you do not want the directory
Because There is no person who does not know Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay Or secret prisons or killing children in Iraq and Afghanistan and raping children, women and men or silence on the crime of Gaza
But more than that
America is defending Israel in (Council injustice and chaos) sorry (Security Council)
How, then, becomes the executioner judge that one
Or
how the offender becomes Sheriff in that one
This is impossible
I hope that the next time depends on the neutral sources
The second thing
United Arab Emirates does not represent Islam or any other country that represents Islam
If you want to debate must come evidence from the Qur'an or the Sunnah
They say evidence from the Quran or the Sunnah is against women or unfair to women. Only then I would answer
OK
I'm not here to defend a state nor anyone I'm here for Islam is not only
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