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sleeper
If tachyons are possible to generate, how does one go about detecting them in the field as opposed to the lab? Is there a shortcut method? I suspect that supposing you have the ability to generate tachyons you could use a tachyon emitter to detect incoming tachyons, but in what configuration? What sort of device is easiest to either build or buy? How can you get results that can be duplicated by others?


Please don't waste space debunking the idea of faster than light particles here. That isn't what this thread is for. Theory is cool, and may even be essential, but argue against concepts somewhere else please.
Empress Palpatine
The first I ever hard of these tachyons was in a Star Trek TNG episode. They were somehow used to detect cloaked Romulan ships. It is possible some real theory may have inspired this episode. Good luck with your investigation.
Enthalpy
Because of reciprocity, if tachyons can detect cloaked Romulan ships, you can also use cloaked Romulan ships to detect tachyons.

I just wonder which one you will have made first.
DavidD
laugh.gif Why tachyons best than my theory? Tacheons faster than light laugh.gif, only if tacheons is propogation of encoded information of combination of smallest particles - the balls. wink.gif Also tacheons should fly changing flying coordinates like jets, becouse entanglement occurs whatever, they must go through everything.
Who can explain what is positive and negative charge atraction or magnets atraction? There any newton forces don't match and aren't good to explain... My theory says that there is particles - balls combinations, which have field combination and this combination fields atracting each over and thus there is charge effect and this atractions is acumulated by random universe fluctations (random motions of particles). Those smallest particles wanna to take minimum space and this creates infinity rich combinations variety...
MjolnirPants
QUOTE (DavidD+Mar 29 2008, 04:57 PM)
My theory says that there is particles - balls combinations,

I got yer particle-ball combinations right here! laugh.gif
Just kiddin
sleeper
I didn't mention it in my original post but I think that I may have a means of generating tachyons, no joke. It is sheer speculation to explain something I have observed. I need an independent means of detection to verify my other observations. Does anyone know how to build a field detector? Does anyone have a theory about building a field detector that I could work with?

I don't want to get into the other thing until I have an answer because now, having mentioned it, I believe it could cloud the waters. It is best left as speculation at this point, so that it won't potentially skew any results.
DavidD
Field going through matter and almost don't becoming weaker, becouse matter is very unconcentrated. Proton and neutrons are very small, electron also...
mott.carl
the tachyons are linked to asymmetry between left-right spins-this are derived by
mirror particles,that are curled up at extradimensions
AlphaNumeric
QUOTE (mott.carl+Apr 6 2008, 11:01 AM)
the tachyons are linked to asymmetry between left-right spins-this are derived by
mirror particles,that are curled up at extradimensions

No, they aren't. I'd ask you to explain yourself but every time I try to engage you in rational discussion you ignore me and then later complain I won't talk physics with you. rolleyes.gif
Moomin
Weird thing tachyon detection, you'd detect them before they were ever emitted.

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sleeper
QUOTE (Moomin+Apr 6 2008, 02:17 PM)
Weird thing tachyon detection, you'd detect them before they were ever emitted.

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Yes, I have found that what I think are tachyons definitely are directional, like particles. So you have to set up along the tachyon's path in order to detect them. To do that you really have to be the one generating them or be incredibly lucky, beyond all reason lucky. I suppose like detecting certain sub-atomic particles you could set up a detector that should discover something you expect to happen and wait, maybe forever, in some dark cave. I am asking you guys if there is a way to do that, yes, but also a way to empirically detect tachyons when you know they are there, generated by the experimenter.
Moomin
QUOTE (sleeper+Apr 6 2008, 03:30 PM)
Yes, I have found that what I think are tachyons definitely are directional, like particles. So you have to set up along the tachyon's path in order to detect them. To do that you really have to be the one generating them or be incredibly lucky, beyond all reason lucky. I suppose like detecting certain sub-atomic particles you could set up a detector that should discover something you expect to happen and wait, maybe forever, in some dark cave. I am asking you guys if there is a way to do that, yes, but also a way to empirically detect tachyons when you know they are there, generated by the experimenter.

Yeah dude, they're fantasy source would be in the entirely opposite direction as detected.

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Just Wonderful
QUOTE (sleeper+Apr 6 2008, 03:30 PM)
Yes, I have found that what I think are tachyons definitely are directional, like particles. So you have to set up along the tachyon's path in order to detect them. To do that you really have to be the one generating them or be incredibly lucky, beyond all reason lucky. I suppose like detecting certain sub-atomic particles you could set up a detector that should discover something you expect to happen and wait, maybe forever, in some dark cave. I am asking you guys if there is a way to do that, yes, but also a way to empirically detect tachyons when you know they are there, generated by the experimenter.

OK, sleeper...wake up... laugh.gif

Here's a good site (wikipedia) for the basics on the energy/ momentum relations for tacs....
..and a great video image of what you'd see if it was comin' at ya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon


JW
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BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (sleeper+Apr 6 2008, 10:30 AM)
I am asking you guys if there is a way to do that, yes, but also a way to empirically detect tachyons when you know they are there, generated by the experimenter.

If you already know that they are there, then there's no need to detect them.
Of course, in order to know they were there, you'd need to detect them.
So you want to detect tachyons that you've already detected.
That's easy, just look at the display panel of whatever instrument you used to detect them in the first place....


You don't seem to get the point, we must detect them before we can produce them. Besides which, who's to say the whole universe isn't flooded with them?
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