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bukh
Anyone in this Forum who would like / try / dare to define a Particle ?
- and is continuous a valid concept ?
rmuldavin
A Particle is a Combo,
Leading to Big and Small,
Phases with Interfaces,
Logic of Mathematics,
Guide us fantastic,
Trick to contain costs.

Modeled Major General,
Lies Geometeric Construction,
Few can express simply,
what intuition clears,
finding out leaves tears,
worst giving up fears.

Poetry much too vague,
leaving us all to beg,
"understanding" above,
while standing below,
secret clues sing blues,
more is due to you.

http://pdg.lbl.gov/reviews/rppref/mini/200...tnu_s007-web.ps

[Comments-rm: According to the above link:

{{The combined result from the four LEP experiments is Nν = 2.984 ± 0.008 [1].}}

Yes, roughly three neutrino forms.

Taking Hans Dehmelt's triplet electron conjecture, circa 1998 Noble Prize, that the electron judged from observing a single positron oscillating at about 60 mega hertz (~CH 4) electromagnetic field in a vacuum chamber with a static magnetic field to keep the positron contained (Penning Trap), the ratio of the inertial spin force to the electromagnetic spin force, G, has been measured most currently out to 2.0000.... 16 places.

The conjectured electron has three vertexes, each 1/3e- charge, and each vertex itself is a sub triplet. This establishes a "basic" unit for mathematical purposes, especially for the vertexes being equal and the triplet sides, edges, and for unity, the face of the "flat equal lateral triangle" (felt).

As conjecture, the felt works well for constructing 3-dimensional polyhedron.

So why not propose that the Neutrino is related to the felt model, starting out with the Dehmelt expanded conjecture that there was an initial triplet, Cosmonium, maybe somewhat like reports of three black hole systems observed in the skies?

And within the local nucleus: 1/3 and 2/3, maybe 5/3 and other fractional charged leptons?

W, W-, W+, and Zo? Let these be the force carriers, try as felt edges, strings.

Electromagnetic forces as transverse string movements. Gravity forces as longitudinal movements.

Simple minded? I am hoping so, thus the joke that our minds reflect nature, so our dividing cells with their mother cells dividing into daughter cells, by alignment of DNA chromosomes along the division interfaces along spindles (nanotubes) themselves held in place from the centrioles, an arrangement that looks like the fields between positive and negative charges.
Roger Penrose in a short book of independent chapters, including Steven Hawking (to drop more names here) proposes that since our cranial space grows slowly and reaches a limit, the spindles the brain utilizes the spindles are utilized to transmit electrical as well as chemical signals in addition to the axions, but the spindles transmit much greater than the speed of sound that the reversal of the K+/~/Na+ electrical pulse swtiching along the axion inner and outer surface.

Result?: Our brains and nervous system can operate near speed of light in vacumm within our nervous systems. Especially when the neutrons arrange as controlled ring counters.

Resonance, harmonics, beat frequencies, ... poetry, song, tone, ....

Back to the three neutrinios.

My yet to be clarified notion is this: If the gravity and electromagnetic forces travel along the G-string (capital "G" to convey some matrix type operations), and reports that the Neutrino appears to change from one from of the three to another, in flight, how can this be made consistent with the apparent very small cross-section of the Neutrino?

Ok, felt wafers get me part way there.

First, two e- or e+ felts, same charges, say e-|~|e- have at least two possible spin forms, right now assuming that the 1/3 vertexes are the same, which they might not align to be.

So ((e-)\~/(e-)) could represent a wafer with opposite spins, and ((e-)\~\(e-)) same spins.

The "\~/" would likely be a thinner felt wafer than the "\~/".

I see that it might be possible to get three spin positions with the keyboard I am using, but later on this idea.

The important idea is that the felt wafers can assume a variety of thickness.

At first there didn't seem to be enough to get three neutrinos that would have cross sections small enough to explain their ability to avoid collisions with, say, the solar system of solid iron that they may appear invisible.

But consider this (as a homework problem): If three felts are stacked or form a three sided felt cap, open base tetrahedron, will the cross sections of either match the reported cross sections?

Back to the sketch pad and maybe some simple math, all based upon the reports of the many humans struggling with Global Problems and Peaceful Solutions.

Best, rmuldavin
rmuldavin
Not giving up just yet before having to go to work at our campground marina.

The 3-felt cap hedron that has an open end? I see above I didn't type the double felt correctly.

So let me be consistent here:

single felt=> one form
double felt=> hinge, flexible, wafer
triple felt=> cap, double hinge, wafer

Next, consider that each felt vertex can collectively or individually form with other felts above.

More later, best, rmuldavin

Majkl
A particle is a wave, string, vortex, ring, intersection or just a particle... biggrin.gif
yor_on
A probability focus containing invariant mass aka gravity
fizzeksman

Hi bukh
My concept of a subatomic particle...

A subatomic particle can be defined as an energetic volume of kinetic, compressible, space (spherical is assumed, althought vortex is allowed as a possibility) that possesses surface tension as a result of its spin, which consequently allows interaction with inertial/gravitational radiation. This interaction endows the property of mass to the particle. Space in acceleration, or density of space that varies with time, constitutes a magnetic field. Charge between particles can be defined as a difference of spin velocity/energy of the particles. Particle size and energy is determined by the spin velocity of the particle and the density of space of which the particle is composed.

Energy is defined as kinetic, compressible space in relative motion.

Jack
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