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uaafanblog
Big week for water in the solar system. I didn't find the link where I'd read this but speculation by at least one scientist included the word "glacier(s)" regarding the discovery (at mid latitudes) on Mars. Here's an interesting quote from the MRO Press Release:
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The ice exposed by fresh impacts suggests that NASA's Viking Lander 2, digging into mid-latitude Mars in 1976, might have struck ice if it had dug 10 centimeters (4 inches) deeper.


And now it looks like there may be substantially more lunar water than perhaps anyone imagined.
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The ice exposed by fresh impacts suggests that NASA's Viking Lander 2, digging into mid-latitude Mars in 1976, might have struck ice if it had dug 10 centimeters (4 inches) deeper.


And now it looks like there may be substantially more lunar water than perhaps anyone imagined.
"Widespread water has been detected on the surface of the moon," said planetary geologist Carle Pieters of Brown University in Rhode Island, who led one of the studies detailing the findings.

All cool stuff. Now if we could just get NASA to dump the stupid ARES rocket and develop something else (VASIMR), perhaps we can finally take a reasonable step toward longer term human exploration and habitation.

Makes me wish I wasn't in the generation I'm in. I feel privileged to have witnessed the Moon landings, space shuttles and all the nifty robotic planetary missions but the next generation could get to see and experience even greater human accomplishments.
Matador
Just caught up on this.

Seems the NASA 'MMMM' (Moon Mineralogy Mapper Module) laugh.gif that was part of the I.S.R.O Chandrayaan - 1 Probe , it has found evidence of H2O and hydroxyl ions in the minerals of lunar soil, something like the equivalent of a few liters of water/ton of lunar soil.

O_o
Excellent team work amongst NASA, and the ISRO to confirm the moon does indeed contain H20.

Great Work!
POLY FRACT
This really only proves that the original Apollo mission were a fake.
Matador
How so? They weren't looking for water in the Apollo missions.
Capracus
QUOTE (POLY FRACT+Sep 27 2009, 10:11 AM)
This really only proves that the original Apollo mission were a fake.

Why, because the astronauts didn't drown? How much water do you think exists on the Moon?
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The moon remains drier than any desert on Earth, but the water is said to exist on the moon in very small quantities. One ton of the top layer of the lunar surface would hold about 32 ounces of water, researchers said.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0909...-discovery.html

If you processed the soil equivalent of the 842 lbs of lunar material returned to Earth by the Apollo missions, you could fill a 12 oz bottle with water.

light in the tunnel
Is it possible that some water was present in the apollo samples but it either wasn't noticed, or was confused with moisture contamination, or it was just so little that it evaporated? How well could they control for such a small amount of moisture, especially if the temperature of the samples when they were collected? Besides, wouldn't sunlight dry out any sample soil prior to collection?
buttershug
They weren't anywhere near where the water was found.
light in the tunnel
QUOTE (buttershug+Oct 19 2009, 10:57 AM)
They weren't anywhere near where the water was found.

I was referring to the following quote:

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The moon remains drier than any desert on Earth, but the water is said to exist on the moon in very small quantities. One ton of the top layer of the lunar surface would hold about 32 ounces of water, researchers said.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0909...-discovery.html

If you processed the soil equivalent of the 842 lbs of lunar material returned to Earth by the Apollo missions, you could fill a 12 oz bottle with water.

Matador
ok, free moisture form a sample is basically 'driven' off at 105 degrees celcius.

The lunar temperature varies greatly,

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In the day, the temperature of the Moon averages 107 C, although it rises as high as 123 C. The night cools the surface to an average of -153 C, or -233 C in the permanently shaded south polar basin. A typical non-polar minimum temperature is -181 C (at the Apollo 15 site).

The Lunar temperature increases about 280 C from just before dawn to Lunar noon. Average temperature also changes about 6 C betwen aphelion and perihelion


form here : http://www.asi.org/adb/m/03/05/average-temperatures.html i hope this is a credible site.


any of the water found on the moon will not be 'free mositure' but water molecules either bound to the crystal lattices, which have a much higher affinity to retain this water ie/ a temp of over 105C is required. I guess some ice may also be abundant in the colder polar basins.

Please correct me where i may be wrong in my assumptions.
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