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Zarkov
Why is it that ants can climb trees as fast as they can walk along a horizontal surface ?

Some research has show that for small animals the effort to go up or along is the same.

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US researchers studied primates climbing and walking on treadmills.

They say there was no difference in energy consumption for small primates

Professor Robin Crompton, of the Primate Evolution and Morphology group at the University of Liverpool, UK, said it had been observed in the wild that small animals such as the mouse lemur and dwarf bushbaby move in much the same manner on verticals as horizontals.

"For the first time, [the US researchers] show that for primates of up to 4kg or so, at least, the energetic efficiency of vertical motion increases very little with size, while previous work has shown that the efficiency of walking increases sharply," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7402853.stm


Why is this so ??

Is it because of static charge ? or buoyancy..... or ?
Sapo
Are you casting nets for Earthlings? With your vast scientific knowledge, surely you toy with us. laugh.gif

Edit: Special apology for those who might have considered the OP to be a valid question. For you, consider that we don't have spiders like those in Mirkwood, or their foul brood-mother, Ungoliant. Which memory was prompted by the trolling reference, I suppose.

There you have it. tongue.gif
Zarkov
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surely you toy with us.


always, LOL

Sapo, u stalking me

If this phenomena does not interest you, y not just post somewhere else.


On Topic

up to 4 kg is the magic "weight".... mmmh that is biological weight !!

Sapo
QUOTE (Zarkov+May 16 2008, 09:05 PM)
...

Sapo, u stalking me...

If this phenomena does not interest you, y not just post somewhere else.

...

Inconsistent spelling of a word within the same sentence does not indicate to me or anyone else that you have a grasp of anything but your overinflated imagination. ohmy.gif
Are you so damned vain that you think we don't know you know? This is your first torture, fool! True earthling. BwaHaaHaa, and all that...
What phenomena interest you? I have seen some posts from you that suggest you aren't all not there... smile.gif

Come on, give us a highlight on your 'intelligence'....
Zarkov
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you aren't all not there


yes you are correct
Zarkov
Sapo
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give us a highlight on your 'intelligence'....


you seem to resent knowledge

I never care if someone knows or not,
this is a science forum where people come to learn... myself included.

I like studying guinea-pigs !
LOL

But what make people like you so obnoxious is the chip on your shoulder and the "off-topic" nasty remarks.

Maybe people do not understand me... that's OK by me... you must remember a few lines in a post can convey very little understanding

discussion usually sorts that out

so give up your negative attacking and hows about adding

On TOPIC

It has been noted by many people that a dead (biological) weight is far heavier than a live (biological) weight, and yet they "weigh" the same.....

To take 4 kg of iron up a tree is indeed a large task....

I have seen ants go up a hundred foot tree and never slow down.

curious ?

I know I am.... LOL
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
Sapo, u stalking me


Aaaah, there you go again! Hurling accusations of stalking without bothering to back them up. Tsk, tsk...

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y not just post somewhere else.


Why don't you post somewhere else? You've already stated that you're bored and disillusioned with this site, so why are you still here?

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y not just post somewhere else.


Why don't you post somewhere else? You've already stated that you're bored and disillusioned with this site, so why are you still here?

But what make people like you so obnoxious is the chip on your shoulder and the "off-topic" nasty remarks.


And make people like you so obnoxious is your lies, your hypocrisy, your arrogance, and, above all, your complete denial of reality.

Come on. Refute us. I'm openly challenging you to prove me wrong. Sapo is asking you to provide an example of your so-called 'intelligence'. If you're so smart, why can't you counter us with a rational argument?

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so give up your negative attacking and hows about adding


It's hard to add when idiots like you seek to destroy.

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so give up your negative attacking and hows about adding


It's hard to add when idiots like you seek to destroy.

curious ?


Yes, your hypocrisy is quite curious. Quite curious indeed...
Gehn
QUOTE (Zarkov+May 17 2008, 04:25 AM)

Maybe people do not understand me... that's OK by me...



We probably understand you better than you understand yourself, considering how delusional you are (You seem to have gotten worse over the past few weeks - have you been taking your pills?).

- Gehn biggrin.gif
Sapo
QUOTE (Sapo+May 16 2008, 09:37 PM)
Inconsistent spelling of a word within the same sentence does not indicate to me or anyone else  that you have a grasp of anything but your overinflated imagination. ohmy.gif
Are you so damned vain that you think we don't know you know? This is your first torture, fool! True earthling. BwaHaaHaa, and all that...
What phenomena interest you? I have seen some posts from you that suggest you aren't all not there...  smile.gif

Come on, give us a highlight on your 'intelligence'....

It's true, though. The keyword in my quote is 'highlight'... laugh.gif
Zarkov
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ou that suggest you aren't all not there...  smile.gi

It's true, though. The keyword in my quote is 'highlight'... laugh.gif


Just what i expected, right over your head
just get out of this thread and go to bed
before you hurt yourself, Sapo.
Sapo
Incredible.
Agent X20
QUOTE (Sapo+May 17 2008, 09:22 PM)
Incredible.

..... Incredibly stupid!, just the usual ignorant bleatings of a cretinous psychotic - yawn! dry.gif
Zarkov
seems both above are members of the Incredibles...

LOL

obviously the English language is not 4 U
TheDoc
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
LOL

obviously the English language is not 4 U


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Bloy
Another useless thread .... dry.gif
TheDoc
QUOTE (Bloy+May 17 2008, 10:00 PM)
Another useless thread .... dry.gif

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Bloy
QUOTE (TheDoc+May 17 2008, 04:07 PM)
1f j00 |)on+ l1k3 1t, d0n+ r34|) 1+.

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yup..that's good enough to be in general science.
TheDoc
QUOTE (Bloy+May 17 2008, 10:08 PM)
yup..that's good enough to be in general science.

Since I'm a nice, generous guy, I'll translate it for you:

"If you don't like it, don't read it.

BTW - if you post in this thread again, be sure to use leetspeak!"


Y0ur3 \/\/37(0m3.
excaza
QUOTE (Zarkov+May 16 2008, 11:25 PM)
It has been noted by many people that a dead (biological) weight is far heavier than a live (biological) weight, and yet they "weigh" the same.....

um....what?
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