QUOTE (IT Pro+Jul 6 2005, 06:01 AM)
I'm sorry, but anyone who puts ANY machine on the internet without a firewall is asking for trouble. As for Linux being the answer, well that's a joke in itself... Given the same market share, Linux would be in the same situation, maybe worse than Windows currently finds itself in.
Would you say the same of an OS/2 or BeOS box, then? How about QNX? They'll access the 'Net adequately... and there's _no_ chances of them becoming 'owned', or infected.
As for Linux - I agree. In fact; I'd be willing to go so far as to conjecture that the current crop of Linux virii are *very* likely genuine Microsoft products! ;-))
Mitchell
6th July 2005 - 07:22 PM
Sophos sucks. We used thier product for a year. Totally un-configurable at any point. Norton is much better for the corporate enviroment.
Richie Rich
6th July 2005 - 07:45 PM
Linux will always be more secure, even with greater market share, because it is OPEN. There is no reason to hide flaws from users, no reason to bury a "feature/bug" designed to minimize customer tech support, and every opportunity for the brightest and best programmers on the planet to fix flaws immediately without "PR spin." The defining difference between open source and proprietary code is that open source is driven by USER wants and needs, while proprietary code is driven by what CORPORATIONS want you to use, and by what they are willing to pay programmers to churn out, which will always favor bells and whistles over security.
Microsoft has prospered by reverse engineering brilliant minds right out of business, and has YET to innovate a darn thing. All of us owe a debt of gratitude to the OS warriors who have donated their labors so that our creativity and the means by which we may communicate it to others is not owned by billionaires.
If Linux is gay, well, then it's not that there's anything wrong with that...
Guest
6th July 2005 - 09:25 PM
Linux vs MS this is to be seen ...
About the market share there is no need to discuss it. The same argument can be used to say that our president is SMART

for he has graduated Harvard

. If you can not see the analogy I can not help you much
About the idea for the two systems:
I can do with Linux what I WANT and I can do with windows what I am ALLOWED to do with it.
Some people name this FREEDOM.
Guest
7th July 2005 - 02:34 AM
you guys are morons. Windows allows you to do what you want... linux allows you to do the things you can find the config files for.
Get out from under the bash shell, there is a whole world out there filled with color and graphics. You guys are deprecated.
Windows is the most tested piece of software in history. If you think about all the people that are running windows right now and under all the different configurations, different pieces of hardware, with non expert users doing their best to screw with it. Its simply amazing that MS can pull it off.
Moseley
7th July 2005 - 10:28 AM
I (as the prev posted perhaps knows) am in the same boat as moron, I use 98se with no internet security & have been virus free for years.
Gonna have to ditch it soon as need new PC, tempted by Linux.
moron
7th July 2005 - 01:10 PM
You needn't ditch it, really -- just add on another machine. I use 98SE by choice, actually, specifically in response to the virus issue, and also partially because I have absolutely no need or use for XP whatsoever.
I use the 98SE box as my 'front-end' machine. It does all of the 'Net access -- and anything that it saves or downloads is stored onto a SCSI drive, which is in turn *shared to the rest of the computers*... any of which, regardless of operating system, can access and manipulate the same data. That way, I can dedicate each machine to a specific task -- one does burning; another does video display and imaging tasks; another does soundplay and editing... true _hardware_ multitasking! :-)
Guest
7th July 2005 - 01:35 PM
Did you hear?
Germany (and with it the rest of Europe), China and Brazil are moving towards Linux, and by the way Linux has almost over 100 versions!
It appears that only US is stuck in the stone age (sorry, Windows age to be precise). Eventually we also have to change or ... everyone else knows what I hope we will change.
China_Linux
7th July 2005 - 07:12 PM
Hello there to You,
To Start with from begining, in China the computer all over being developed with Linux operating system in FIRST PRIORITY. Always new computer here and in company using Linux. Many good reason because Linux many uses. Microsoft not to be using anymore. In many company all computer and user becoming more to use the Linux. Company IBM helping to install more Linux in China.
In all other world place, Linux become installed more usually.
Helping to building international friend
Thank You
Guest
8th July 2005 - 04:26 AM
Me too, (same as Moseley & MORON)
Use only 98SE with NO IExx (Revenge of Mozilla)
or MS email.
Works just fine for me.
(at least until I do it right using Linux)
Guest_Iceman
8th July 2005 - 05:52 AM
I have had it with Microsoft with their lousy worm infected product and their attempts to control everybody. Those Bozos are FIRED !!!
moron
9th July 2005 - 05:15 PM
Are you going to "fire" the NSA, too? Since every Microsoft OS since Windows 3 has their bloody 'back-doors' built right in, how "secure" are other operating systems?
I would imagine that they have their "ways", for instance, to pry into an OS/2 or Linux machine... those operating systems have been around long enough. But; what about some of the _really_ obscure ones? I'm thinking of Menuet, for example -- being so tiny, and written entirely in *assembler*, I should think it would be particularly difficult to encode _any_ sort of "back-doors" or hidden exploits into that thing... or, QNX's 'Photon'; there's another one. For the TRULY paranoid, these may pose some sort of possible solution. Put one of those on an 'antique' 386 box, and you have an 'undetectable' system --- a hacker's dream.
It's a wonder they haven't made such 'obsolete' old gear illegal yet... :-]
Guest
28th May 2006 - 11:45 PM
QUOTE (Guest+Jul 5 2005, 06:52 PM)
Linux is so gay
I agree with the Guest who said Linux is so gay.
fdisk /dev/hda
Then it says it cant open it.
Im not trying to open something I AM TRYING TO
FORMAT THE F**KING PARTITION to install Linux!
Back to Windows we go.
janus zeal
29th May 2006 - 06:53 PM
Ive used windows 98se for quite a few years now (and firefox, as soon as i found it, about v.7). no firewall, no AV. ive yet to get infected. people that use unsecured windows xp and/or internet explorer are screaming for an infection.
Norton is a system resource hog and isnt very secure its self. zone alarm pro is much better. and as for AV, kaspersky is alot better then norton as well.
janus zeal
29th May 2006 - 07:00 PM
QUOTE (Guest+May 28 2006, 11:45 PM)
QUOTE (Guest+Jul 5 2005, 06:52 PM)
Linux is so gay
I agree with the Guest who said Linux is so gay.
fdisk /dev/hdaThen it says it cant open it.
Im not trying to open something I AM TRYING TO
FORMAT THE F**KING PARTITION to install Linux!
Back to Windows we go.
Actaully, linux is a very solid OS.
and anyone who doesnt know basic dos commands wouldnt be smart enough to switch from windows to linux.
if you wanna format a disk
format [driverletter]:
if your on windows, windows doesnt use unix style paths [/dev/...]
and if your on linux, fdisk is a windows/dos command, and its not used to format a disk anyways.
and either way your a f***ing idiot.
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