This reseach probably falls within the bell curve...or beer suds...which ever you believe. I think MS/Sun will have fun against IBM mostly. Consider the hydra verticals within server management, Biz Process Optimization, SDLC, and overall solution ROI. Makes me grin.

Just looking at Server OS statistics one may grow focused and loose thy way in the jungle.

At the end of the day, focus on beer suds...for insight.

Claytis...

I loves the Microsoft. Loves it I says...my preeeccccioussss.

Microsoft products create employment for help desk people. yesss they doesss. yessss they doessss.

I don't think the Unix here is including the Linux, as Linux is growing so strong. This article is misleading people.

Is there a typo in your title? Shouldn't it be server not sever?

As someone who purchases both Sun and Dell equipment, the reason why Dell and Sun's numbers are closing the gap and that Dell has surpassed Sun is because Dell is the new IBM (businesses are paying extra for that Dell Badge). Their prices have skyrocketed while Sun's prices have come down.

IBM & HP? Well their revenues are high not because they have a particularly large install base but because they're the most expensive thing out there and many old school businesses won't use anything else. The company I work for has a relatively small IBM Mainframe that costs millions to maintain IBM is charging us a HUGE amount of money to maintain some aging RS6000's... Yet Sr. Management complains about $200K to put platinum maintenance on 40 Sun boxes.

It's an Itchy and Scratchy thing. "To Protect and Sever"

Off topic, but why don't they make an actual series on Itchy and Scratchy?

On topic, it seems that since Microsoft is the preffered user base of thousands, millions of people, hackers will always focus on it. Dont expect Longhorn to be the "ultimate OS"

Although this may just be the mind of a 15-year-old talking...

It would be nice if you guys would at least read the article first before bashing it.
It seem to at least the cover the unix/linux spectrum, and addresses hardware shipments to some degree.

Not a typo in the title. It's not an article about Linux vs. Windows Server 2000/2003.
It's an article relating to peoples' use of Windows or Linux or Unix boxes as their servers.

Windows keeps it simple and the Linux world does not want to get user friendly so of course they are losing out and you thought WG was dumb.

My Company buys OS-less servers from Dell and puts Linux on them. This article is misleading. I suspect a large percentage of the new Dell and HP servers have Linux and not Windows.

That is, the article compares Windows vs. Linux vs. Unix. But the article does not state how Dells and HPs without any OS are counted, and I would imagine that most OS-less Dells and HPs end up running Linux.

Click the IGN link above for the facts:

Year-over-year unit shipment growth of 13.5% - the lowest unit growth in two years - reflects moderating unit growth in the volume server segment and more difficult annual comparisons.

Linux servers posted their eleventh consecutive quarter of double-digit growth, with year-over-year revenue growth of 35.2% and unit shipments up 31.1%. Customers continue to expand the role of Linux servers into an ever increasing array of workloads in both the commercial and technical segments of the market.

Microsoft Windows servers showed strong growth, as revenues and unit shipments grew 12.3% and 10.7% respectively year over year. Significantly, quarterly revenue of $4.2 billion for Windows servers represented 34.4% of overall quarterly factory revenue, pulling even with quarterly revenue in the Unix server market.

Unix servers experienced 2.8% revenue growth year over year and 5.0% unit shipment growth over 1Q04. Worldwide Unix revenues of $4.2 billion for the quarter, coupled with revenue and shipment growth, reflect continued IT investment in this server market segment.

That's it!

The article is not misleading. It is misleading only for those who has no background in this topic.

It might explain more for dummies, though.

All of these types of comparisons are totally flawed and can never really be accurate. They can easily track windows by microsoft providing a number of licenses. However, becuase linux is free and most distros dont require licensing or registering there is really no way to accurately report the number of linux servers out there. I seriously doubt that linux has only had such a small gain. Maybe just comparting those distros that do require registering, etc like Redhat. But everytime I see these comparisons I laugh them off. Just more MS hype, sponsored by MS, for MS.
Go ahead keep paying $ for MS software. It really keeps support techs like me in business! Lets face it.. If the world was reversed and Mac and Linux had the market share that MS has, people like me (and most of you) would be out of a job!

From Lewis Skolnick: " Windows keeps it simple and the Linux world does not want to get user friendly so of course they are losing out and you thought WG was dumb. "

Windows setup is simple. Its the after effects which are a disaster. Think about all those worms and viruses seeking an NT server. It will be no different with Longhorn. Ive seen too many multi-million dollar servers dead, becasue they are frozedn with worms and pop-up ads. The war is over. UNIX/LINUX won. No contest, lew. Unless, youre on the MSFT dole.

To me, Linux is an old, dependable, and simple Ford pickup, while Windows is a tempermental Ferrari. Sure, a Ferrari can be fun to drive (program), but when it comes to maintaining it, the costs are high due to its complexity and unreliability.

i would have to agree.. linux is the ford pick up and most millionaires, believe it or not, drive ford pick ups

i am a *complete* newbie, but have been dragged into the free OS land by my partner suggesting i run Debian's Ubuntu - their logo "linux for human beings"

i have no idea how MS is going to survive peddling such expensive and unreliable junk... eventually people will opt for free tools that work and have a collaborative env't

Unless Linux gets single standaards for OS features like a GUI, user-friendly programming and macro language, and software installation/uninstall, it will nerver beat Microsoft.
Microsoft will react to the Linux treat (patent attacks, better integration, lower prices, simplified management, etc).

The Linux (and FOSS community) is at the moment too diverse and uncoordinated to really beat Microsoft. They will have some success, but Microsoft will remain the dominant software maker, unless.... read on.

The world needs a programming language that is:
1) open source
2) free or very cheap
3) simple programming syntax (like basic). Java and C# use C's unfriendly syntax.
4) Integrated GUI support (with a forms designer to design windows/forms visually)
5) able to make programs for multiple OSes (Windows, Linux, etc)
6) compile programs to fast and small executables, with a option to compile to bytecode for cross-platform functionality).
7) Unused functions/libraries not included in executables and libraries made.
8) Integrated database functionality
9) Integrated Multimedia functionality based on free standaards (like ogg-vorbis)
10) make internet accessible documents/forms made with bytecode and compressed text instead of inefficient html, xml, and javascript.
11) good documentation and support and a single governing foundation that is independant of politics and competing businesses.
12) options to include the best features of most programming languages: include assembly, type checking, memory management, exceptions, etc.

With a good and easy crossplatform programming language as the basis, a set of core modules could be built which could be used to make a integrated platform: TwoPaneFilemanger + WordPrecessorWithEasyMathFormulaEditing +
SpreadsheetWithFullStatisticsFunctionality + DatabaseManager + Databaseserver + ProgrammingEnvironment + EmailAndInstantMessaging + Websitecreation + VideoEditor + FileServer+AudioEditor + Image(bitmapAndVector)Editor +
FlowchartAndNetworksEditorDesktopSearchEngine + SystemAndHardwareManager
+ 3DModelAndAnimationEditor.

This platform should use the same programming language as a macro language.
There should be a single file format that can contain multiple datastreams (text, video, audio, data, etc) and programinstuctions (binary or bytecode). Thus even large tekst document will not have to be fully loaded to be opened.
The files should function as websites, datadocuments or programs.
The file should also contain a hierarchy of data (like the TreePad or KeyNote programs).
There should be a unified canvas where you could creat, place and edit all data types and formats (text, images, audio, spreadsheets, database queries, 3DModels, etc).
All data (email, text, vectorimages, etc) and configurations will be stored in a database format that is easily accessed by the programing language.
A single program should be the interface to the dual pane filemanager, and canvas editor.
The interface should be simple for new users and thus optimized for a touch screen and no mouse dubbelclick.

The software could be free for personal use while governments and businesses could pay a cheap price (Developing software and fighting patents cost money).
With such a easy language many people will start programming for the platform.
I have been looking for such a language for years. Sadly, no present language/developement framework is good enough, and software patents is killing innovation and efficiency. So, I dream on and on.

Having been a server implementation/support engineer for about 14 years now I can say with no uncertainty that my Solaris servers don't break nearly as often as my Intel based solutions.
By Intel based I mean Windows AND Linux. Linux is a great OS, no doubt about it, but it's weakness lies in the consumer grade hardware it runs on. Same goes for Windows, except in this case the OS is not nearly as robust as marketing would have you believe compounding the problem.
As the vulnerability officer in our Corporate group I don't get that many bug or virus reports for the Unix side of things, whereas last month we had to apply over 14 patches to our Windows machines.
We are using a lot of Linux at our organisation now, and while I have always loved Linux, I am seriously not impressed with the hardware we run it on. It has as many problems as our Windows machines (no suprise since it's the same kind of hardware) without the added hassle of having to reboot every month to make up for memory leaks that plague MS products.
Don't get me wrong here, I love MS and all of it's products. They have their place as a user interface and front end to the real iron behind the scenes. And my years of corporate experience show that there's nothing like Sun if you want to keep your data flowing.
Sorry HP and IBM, your not all that. I DO know this from experience.

I'm tired of this windows sucks linux is better crap. I've ran both and anyone that has truely ran both knows they both suck. They both blow up and both have problems. Poor coding on both sides if you ask me. Show me somethings that can run flawlessly!

"True genius is knowing you know nothing at all" w00d

There is just no way to estimate this by comparing the sales in dollars. first of all, most linuxes are free of charge. they could have 90% of the market, the they would still lose by comparing dolars.

Worse: most PC, including servers are sold with windows, wether you want it or not, wether you plan to run the box under linux or not. So a big growth of linux market as opposed to porpietary unixes would still result in sales increase for microsoft

Oh come on guys, Microsoft is gaining ground and everybody is afraid and jealous. Linux/Unix/Solaris - beware, the end is near.

Haha, definitely in for those alternatives. you must be crazy to use windows if there is something, anything else. I personaly choose alternatives, in most (if not all) cases they are way better than most (again, if not all) windows programs on which you can never rely. Windows are just... well, the statistics talk for themselves. The people usin Unix / Linux are increasing in number even as we talk.

Cheers

GNU or Slave

Why pay for even better developed Windows then develop own
GNU Linux?
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The new generation of NT-class operating systems have progressively and systematically demonstrated not only that Windows is better than Linux, but also that commercial software development is a sustainable business model that the open source community simply cannot compete with.

Longhorn will put the competition to rest once and for all.

James.

haha longhorn..
oh boy. the simple fact is, windows sucks. it has since it was developed. how can you compete with a stable OS like BSD. windows sucks donkey wang. i personally use Gentoo. thats a real man's OS. =p.
Actually, i hope more people start using Windows servers, less work for me to gain access =p

Linux server revenue continues to grow at double-digit pace

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/60035

The study IS flawed, in several ways. It only looks at sales figures with hardware and software lumped together, so lower cost OS systems are rated lower. It does not consider the many companies that buy servers with Windows to get the hardware they want, then install Linux.

The entire server market is growing at a healthy rate, but even with the bogus sales data, Linux shows almost 3X the growth rate of Windows or UNIX. If you dig down into the data a bit more as other stdies have, you'll see that Linux is currently displacing UNIX to a greater extent than it is Windows. As usual, Microsoft uses the cherry picked data to make it look like Windows is gaining ground on UNIX in the server arena, when the real truth is Linux is gobbling up Windows and UNIX market share, and if you project the curves, it won't be long until Windows and UNIX are minor players in the server market. The reason is obvious. Great eliability, very low initial cost, and lower total installed cost.

What would help grow the Linux server market would be more companies producing ultra reliable and high quality hardware and shipping it with Linux.

Anybody claiming that Windows is a better OS choice is a fanboy, and should stick to "developing" in Visual BASIC. Anybody claiming that Longhorn is going to be this great OS that will rule the world has no understanding of PC history. Just as Windows 98 = Mac 87, Longhorn will be a bloated mess with all new bugs and exploits, just as all previous versions of Windows have been, and the server versions won't be any different in that regard. The most recent Mac OS has a lot of stuff that Microsoft have already announced they would have to remove from Longhorn to make their already late future ship date. Yeah, XP is pretty, and less prone to blue screen than previous Windows, but Linux is still a LOT more reliable, and it's getting very user friendly too. For a desktop example, you need look no further than www.xandros.com.

And to respond to the post asking how Microsoft would be able to continue to sell their overpriced and buggy OS, it's simple. They'll do what they always do. They'll violate anti-trust laws and force OEMs to bundle Windows with their hardware, they'll spread FUD via their "independent research", and they'll continue to be the customer abusive weasels they are. But people are learning the truth, and Microsoft is slowly losing market share.

In Soviet Russia, Linux took over the marketshare, then all your base are belong to us, and the pr0n was better.

This debate reminds me of high school kids squabbling over what is better, Fords or Chevys, when a professional mechanic would always answer "neither is better or worse".

Use the right tool for the job, and dont be religous about your business decisions, you CHILDREN.

i hate to tell you guys this but i am network adminstartor and windows 2003 server has already toped what linix unix can do you have scripting at your finger tips and its 10 times more secure i know what your thinking secure windows never but its actully true i have had it since the day it cam out with out any patches release by microsoft its impintrable its the stupid service packs that screw every thing up in windows if you are windows user and you find the right tools such as asp.net and aspx you can write your very own adminstration website for windows and it can have commands in it that windows dose not normally do but you can make windows compatible i will tell you one thing i can make any version of windows run on any type of computer weather its configured for ms or not thats the power microsoft help create i just put windows xp pro on a computer runing windows 3.x and all i had to do to make very thing work right was add a stick of memory now if there is one thing i will say windows xp home edition sucks but the pro has some real power and 2003 blowes that out of the water so the fact the loghorn will compete with unix is very real because windows server 2003 has already do this