Note: I am an admitted newb to the fields of physics and quantum mechanics. Having said this, feel free to correct my misconceptions. I'd rather be harshly/technically corrected than politely ignored.
Pondering of the day: If special relativity breaks down in a black hole to infinity, and a similar result happens in quantum physics, can this be associated in a meaningful way with meiosis?
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"Another aspect of the particulate-ness of the gene is that it does not grow senile; it is no more likely to die when it is a million years old than when it is only a hundred. It leaps from body to body down the generations, manipulating body after body in its own way and for its own ends, abandoning a succession of mortal bodies before they sink in senility and death. The genes are the immortals, or rather, they are defined as genetic entities that come close to deserving the title. We, the individual survival machines in the world, can expect to live a few more decades. But the genes in the world have an expectation of life that must be measured not in decades but in thousands and millions of years. In sexually reproducing species, the individual is too large and too temporary a genetic unit to qualify as a significant unit of natural selection. The group of individuals is an even larger unit. Genetically speaking, individuals and groups are like clouds in the sky or dust storms in the desert. They are temporary aggregations or federations. They are not stable through evolutionary time."
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Sorry citation continued Dawkins, R. (1989,revision). the Selfish gene. Oxford University Press
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"Sperms and eggs are unique among our cells in that, instead of containing 46 chromosomes, they contain only 23. This is, of course, exactly half of 46-convenient when they fuse in sexual fertilization to make a new individual! Meiosis is a special kind of cell division, taking place only in testicles and ovaries, in which a cell with the full double set of 46 chromosomes divides to form sex cells with the single set of 23 (all the time using the human numbers for illustration)." Dawkins, R. (1989,revision). the Selfish gene. Oxford University Press
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So my line of reasoning is this, can universal propagation occur in a similar way? Can the quantum "cistrons" of our universe and it's physics be re-combined in a black hole to create a new(product) universe with different large-scale physics principles?
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Well your a little different than the average.
You might back away from black holes until you learn a little more about black holes .
Wow this is the 2nd time I seen a revival of the Selfish gene in the last couple days . . It is called a Meme . Say it Meme . Say it out loud Meme
Now your all going to think this a little funny ( unless your French perhaps ) My Grand baby is being taught to call her other Grandma Meme. Pronounced May-May . Is that funny ? So I guess most of ya don't see the humor in that like some of us do . A time joke .
You might back away from black holes until you learn a little more about black holes .
Wow this is the 2nd time I seen a revival of the Selfish gene in the last couple days . . It is called a Meme . Say it Meme . Say it out loud Meme
Now your all going to think this a little funny ( unless your French perhaps ) My Grand baby is being taught to call her other Grandma Meme. Pronounced May-May . Is that funny ? So I guess most of ya don't see the humor in that like some of us do . A time joke .
My personal sense is that we ought to be placing the "Propagation Domain" on an equal footing with the Space Domain. (In psychological lingo: Time, Will and Consciousness for lack of better terms). In brief, my long-standing hypothesis is that the mechanics of evolution is essentially the "missing link" necessary to bridge the very small and the very large.
That line of thinking got a boost in 2010 when Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow published "The Grand Design."
And the maths underlying it? Also in brief: lattices, fractals and primes, the first two general math concepts of which are known to be related to the processes involved in crystallization. The third is not yet known and so I can only speculate that the primes (think Cicada life cycles with respect to avoiding their natural predators...) play a role in the mechanics of crystallization.
This general line of thinking got a boost in 2012 when Nobel Laureate Frank Wilczek proved the possibility of time crystals in the physical world and thereby something akin to, though not exactly, perpetual motion. Which surprises some people, but seems to me to follow quite logically from the same general principles that allow for geometrical frustration.
By the way, Sir Roger Penrose speculated all the way back in 1989 that Quasi-Crystals play a role in Brain Plasticity (in "The Emperor's New Mind")
- RF
That line of thinking got a boost in 2010 when Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow published "The Grand Design."
And the maths underlying it? Also in brief: lattices, fractals and primes, the first two general math concepts of which are known to be related to the processes involved in crystallization. The third is not yet known and so I can only speculate that the primes (think Cicada life cycles with respect to avoiding their natural predators...) play a role in the mechanics of crystallization.
This general line of thinking got a boost in 2012 when Nobel Laureate Frank Wilczek proved the possibility of time crystals in the physical world and thereby something akin to, though not exactly, perpetual motion. Which surprises some people, but seems to me to follow quite logically from the same general principles that allow for geometrical frustration.
By the way, Sir Roger Penrose speculated all the way back in 1989 that Quasi-Crystals play a role in Brain Plasticity (in "The Emperor's New Mind")
- RF
QUOTE (Raphie Frank+Jun 27 2012, 10:48 PM)
My personal sense is that we ought to be placing the "Propagation Domain" on an equal footing with the Space Domain. (In psychological lingo: Time, Will and Consciousness for lack of better terms). In brief, my long-standing hypothesis is that the mechanics of evolution is essentially the "missing link" necessary to bridge the very small and the very large.
That line of thinking got a boost in 2010 when Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow published "The Grand Design."
And the maths underlying it? Also in brief: lattices, fractals and primes, the first two general math concepts of which are known to be related to the processes involved in crystallization. The third is not yet known and so I can only speculate that the primes (think Cicada life cycles with respect to avoiding their natural predators...) play a role in the mechanics of crystallization.
This general line of thinking got a boost in 2012 when Nobel Laureate Frank Wilczek proved the possibility of time crystals in the physical world and thereby something akin to, though not exactly, perpetual motion. Which surprises some people, but seems to me to follow quite logically from the same general principles that allow for geometrical frustration.
By the way, Sir Roger Penrose speculated all the way back in 1989 that Quasi-Crystals play a role in Brain Plasticity (in "The Emperor's New Mind")
- RF
Thanks Raphie. That's one of the ideas I was trying to get at, but failed to adequately describe, the notion that evolution/biology can help to bridge the gap between relativity and quantum mechanics. My hypothesis was that when astro physics "breaks down" what remains is quantum, the fundamental structure. And that the matter pulled into the black hole, like cistrons of genes can become interchanged and reconfigured like with a zygote. This does also rely on the notion of the "living" universe theory, in that the universe is itself a form of biological entity.
And yes, Mekigal, I know The Selfish Gene was a meme. Dawkins himself, clearly stated so in the book. I'm not trying to win a frickin' Nobel Prize here, just some curious ruminating.
That line of thinking got a boost in 2010 when Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow published "The Grand Design."
And the maths underlying it? Also in brief: lattices, fractals and primes, the first two general math concepts of which are known to be related to the processes involved in crystallization. The third is not yet known and so I can only speculate that the primes (think Cicada life cycles with respect to avoiding their natural predators...) play a role in the mechanics of crystallization.
This general line of thinking got a boost in 2012 when Nobel Laureate Frank Wilczek proved the possibility of time crystals in the physical world and thereby something akin to, though not exactly, perpetual motion. Which surprises some people, but seems to me to follow quite logically from the same general principles that allow for geometrical frustration.
By the way, Sir Roger Penrose speculated all the way back in 1989 that Quasi-Crystals play a role in Brain Plasticity (in "The Emperor's New Mind")
- RF
Thanks Raphie. That's one of the ideas I was trying to get at, but failed to adequately describe, the notion that evolution/biology can help to bridge the gap between relativity and quantum mechanics. My hypothesis was that when astro physics "breaks down" what remains is quantum, the fundamental structure. And that the matter pulled into the black hole, like cistrons of genes can become interchanged and reconfigured like with a zygote. This does also rely on the notion of the "living" universe theory, in that the universe is itself a form of biological entity.
And yes, Mekigal, I know The Selfish Gene was a meme. Dawkins himself, clearly stated so in the book. I'm not trying to win a frickin' Nobel Prize here, just some curious ruminating.
QUOTE (VectorVessel85+Jun 28 2012, 12:06 AM)
Thanks Raphie. That's one of the ideas I was trying to get at, but failed to adequately describe, the notion that evolution/biology can help to bridge the gap between relativity and quantum mechanics. My hypothesis was that when astro physics "breaks down" what remains is quantum, the fundamental structure. And that the matter pulled into the black hole, like cistrons of genes can become interchanged and reconfigured like with a zygote. This does also rely on the notion of the "living" universe theory, in that the universe is itself a form of biological entity.
And yes, Mekigal, I know The Selfish Gene was a meme. Dawkins himself, clearly stated so in the book. I'm not trying to win a frickin' Nobel Prize here, just some curious ruminating.
Like Wilco... "You can combine anything you want." Nice to know someone else out there is thinking the way I am. Now, if only some brilliant person at the Academy would figure out a way to prove that "Social String Theory" is more than just philosophy :-)
Meantime, here is a paper you might want to take a look at:
"On the fractal behavior of primes"
It's by an experimental (computationally-based) self taught mathematician Benoit Cloitre. Seems the primes may have a quasi-periodic distribution. Too early to say for sure, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it, since, in my view, the fractal nature of the prime number distribution has already been proven. It's implied by the discovery of Jerome Malenfant in 2011 that the Mathematics of Ken Ono (regarding finite formulas for partition numbers) can be used to derive Stirling and Bernoulli Numbers.
- RF
And yes, Mekigal, I know The Selfish Gene was a meme. Dawkins himself, clearly stated so in the book. I'm not trying to win a frickin' Nobel Prize here, just some curious ruminating.
Like Wilco... "You can combine anything you want." Nice to know someone else out there is thinking the way I am. Now, if only some brilliant person at the Academy would figure out a way to prove that "Social String Theory" is more than just philosophy :-)
Meantime, here is a paper you might want to take a look at:
"On the fractal behavior of primes"
It's by an experimental (computationally-based) self taught mathematician Benoit Cloitre. Seems the primes may have a quasi-periodic distribution. Too early to say for sure, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it, since, in my view, the fractal nature of the prime number distribution has already been proven. It's implied by the discovery of Jerome Malenfant in 2011 that the Mathematics of Ken Ono (regarding finite formulas for partition numbers) can be used to derive Stirling and Bernoulli Numbers.
- RF
Thank you for the recommendation of that paper by Benoit Cloitre.I'll definitely give that a read.
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