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haiyent
You see, once in a while, usually when alone at home when there isn't any noice from kids or others, there is this noice coming from my file cabinet.

If there is a big lizard in there then it is perfectly understandable. That is the type of noice you can imagine if there is a lizard moving or scratching inside your cabinet. BUt I am 100% sure thre isn't any living creature in my cabinet.

I am not superstitious thus I like to think that those intermittent scratching noices that occur to me once in a while, are actually physics phenomenon.

Anybody care to help explain?

Thanks.
Insyght
Could it be something behind the cabinet, perhaps in your wall, or something going under your cabinet?
Confused2
Hi haiyent,

A well known phenomenon. The original experiment was performed by Schrödinger and his cat.

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/GeneralInte.../SchrodCat.html

It seems there is a slight possibility that there is a lizard in your filing cabinet. Whenever you open the filing cabinet you force the lizard to be either present or absent. As it seems extremely unlikely that there will be a lizard in there you may keep opening the filing cabinet and perhaps never see it.

This is the (now famous) haiyent's lizard variation of the experiment.

Best wishes,


Confused2.

Guest
Working long hours??
Madkite
You don't have a mouse or a rat. They will find the darnedest places to get in to. And normally they will only make their presence knows when they think now one is looking. Next time it happens make some noise. Just enough to let the phantom mouse know that you are their. If it stops immediately then you can guess what it is. If it dose sit quietly and see if it starts up again. Even if you open the draw a mouse can sometimes find a way of escaping detection. Their smart sods.

Other wise without resorting to magic most sheet metal objects tick when they expand and contact because of the rivets. But not scratching. Is the sound random. Dose it have some kind of discernible pattern. Is their a particular environmental event that triggers it. (like central heating) Try to eliminate all the possible causes.

My house has had a lot of wired things happen in it and I rationalize most of them away. Less scary that way. Although CD players turning themselves on in the middle of the night is rather annoying. Doing it on new years eve as well is a bit wired too. Off coarse it was a random technical error. Of coarse ph34r.gif

Nessus
Prehaps move your filing cabinet to another room so that if the noise comes from he cabinet then you will know, if it comes from the room itself (its in the walls, ie mice etc) then you will also know it. If its some sort of vibration of the wall or floor againste the cabinet then there will be no noise.
Smoke2Much
Ghosts.

It's gotta be ghosts. No other reasonable explanation.

Or maybe............. mice ghosts.
Kaeroll
QUOTE (Smoke2Much+Nov 21 2005, 08:13 PM)
Ghosts.

It's gotta be ghosts. No other reasonable explanation.

Or maybe............. mice ghosts.

I prefer the Haiyent's Lizard explanation myself.
haiyent
QUOTE (Insyght+Nov 21 2005, 05:36 PM)
Could it be something behind the cabinet, perhaps in your wall, or something going under your cabinet?

[QUOTE]

No, there isn't any moving object behind or below the cabinet, 100% positive

GUess what, the recent few times I heard the noice I used a torch to shine below and behind it and there is absolutely nothing.

I even pull open the doors and left it open to see if there is any moving files inside, quite surprisingly when I stared at the opened cabinet there wasn't any noice but then when I continued my work, it came back equally loud and clear for no apparent reason.

Strange..
haiyent
lizard, it got to be lizard.....even if i can't see it with my own eyes.......
Insyght
QUOTE
Prehaps move your filing cabinet to another room so that if the noise comes from he cabinet then you will know, if it comes from the room itself


I like this suggestion. If it were me, I would give this a try.

Does your cabinet have hidden section? many older ones do for hiding stuff in. Hey perhaps you will find a hundred year old 30 caret diamond?

Okay, now I'm just being silly.

Good luck smile.gif


Lonk
Its a huge mayan spider, it hides from the light and tries to come out when everythings quiet. Careful they are deadly due to the poison, the noise is probably the spider trying to find a way out.
haiyent
No, moving the whole cabinet to another room is difficult.

There is no hidden compartment.

Think I would follow Madkite's advice. The next time the noice come agin, I would knock on the cabinet to see if it stops instantly. This can confirm if it's from some creature hiding in there.

Spider and etc, don't be kidding.

Mouse or lizard may be, even though at the beginning I thought it was some kind of temperature change and physics phenomenon from that wooden cabinet.

Reason was my house doors are closed all the time and all windows have mosquito net panels. So kind of never see a lizard on ceiling or anywhere......within my house.
Nessus
You would be suprised where vermin turn up, even if you say your house is sealed all it requires is one tiny hole anywhere and they can get in. Personally if this continunes you should make the effort to move your cabinet, whats alittle physical labour compared to not knowing?

Happy hunting!
Good Elf
Hi haiyent,

He he he ....I know this may seem silly but what about termites? If the cabinet is wooden.... termites may have made their "home" there. When disturbed by vibration they can cause a bit of a 'racket" that can sound a bit like a lizard. They can get through the tiniest cracks. Look for tell-tale sawdust "tubes"... they always travel in them and never exposed to the open air or to the light. wink.gif

Cheers
Guest Lizard
Hello haiyent and the Lizard Hunters,

Any new experimental results to report?

So far quantum theory has contributed two possible explanations - Uncertainty Principle and Tunneling. Classical theory has suggested that the explanation will be found by carefully chosen experiments. Even Occultism has had a go.

But String Theory - NOTHING - need I say more.

Best wishes,

Confused2.

PS Please say "hi" to the lizard from me.
Insyght
QUOTE
look for tell-tale sawdust "tubes"... they always travel in them and never exposed to the open air or to the light.


Then look in all the crawl spaces in your home. These buggers can eat right through you supporting joilsts.
Good Elf
Hi Guest Lizard,

Come now... surely little wiggly tubes are membranes and so form part of M-Theory???

Cheers
Brunoleschi
Oh hell, just turn up your stereo & ignore it.
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