Zarkov
29th September 2008 - 12:01 AM
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We need one world government
and then world coups
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and then world coups
where everyone was supposed to work hard
for everyone else's benefit Madonna was cool in Moscow,
The Soviet-raised kids weren't buying the communist ideology. The collapse of the system was inevitable from that point on.
So its cool to become debauched, drug f^cked, and materialistic...the fine art of doing nothing
Yes destroy what was good, and replace with deceit, decadence and violence
great,,, Meanwhile the rest of LIFE is on the edge while earthlings have an orgy of madness
really really pathetic earthling, you have completely lost your way
can't wait for Armageddon.
wcelliott
29th September 2008 - 12:30 AM
Well, aside from her decadence and materialism, she's also a pretty talented songwriter and dancer. (But that was incidental to my point.)
I'm not necessarily *supporting* the notion of "a New World Order" or a single, secret-police state running the world, I'm just pointing out the alternatives to the peaceniks who want all wars to stop and also to disarm ourselves, simultaneously.
We Americans get blamed for every war, even the ones we don't start, but it's an imperfect world and we're a long way away from even living in a world where other countries don't *want* wars. We never get credit for the wars we've prevented. Maybe we shouldn't act like World Police ("Team America: World Police" - the first DVD I ever bought), but we're inevitably more like the biggest bouncer in the strip club, when fights break out between drunken morons, people *expect* us to do something to stop the fight.
And from my signature, below (which derives from Aristotle's Ethics), we share in the responsibility for things that we foresee and don't try to prevent or stop.
The laws are set up such that you can (almost) never get into legal trouble for doing nothing, but we are *ethically* bound to intervene when we are the ones who can and feel we should. Deciding not to act is a decision to not-act, and that makes us responsible for the foreseeable consequences of our inaction.
Anybody here old enough to remember that story that came out of New York, where a woman was raped for 20 minutes in an alleyway behind an apartment building, screaming for help the whole time, and finally stabbed to death, and nobody in the apartment building called the cops because "they didn't want to get involved"? They were already involved. They knew what was happening and took no action. It's a sad state of affairs in this world, but that sort of thing happens all the time and there are too many instances for us to get involved in all of them.
In 2004, a 16-yr-old girl was hanged in Iran for getting raped by a 54-yr-old cab driver. The "court" took the position that she was "asking for it" by being out after dark without a male escort.
In Australia, there were a series of rapes traced back to one group of recent immigrants. When they got caught, their cleric stated on TV that it wasn't their fault, the rape victims were dressed provocatively. He actually said, "You can't put raw meat before a dog and not expect the dog to eat it."
It's just too early for the US to take the "Let's all sit down and work out our differences like gentlemen" approach. That might work in some specific instances, and it's great when it does, but there are still places where they're arming 10-yr-olds with machetes and ordering them to slaughter prisoners of war.
Diplomacy doesn't have a chance of working unless you've got a credible threat to back it up.
Zarkov
29th September 2008 - 06:33 AM
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"they didn't want to get involved"? They were already involved.
well, so true, in a sane world
To get involved implies involvement with wisdom and sanity, not self interest, and definitely not from madness
IMO, the western world is mad, self interested and only gets involved when there is cake to gain..... this IMO is immoral...... and yes, one would wish for a world policeman...but not the USA or any other insane nation
Many misdeeds occur in the world... some are from ignorant but good intent...others are just plainly for selfish ends, some are perpetuated to ensure a lesson to the whole is learned
In this world of toxic pollution, many acts are not beneficial to stability,.... all the people are "insane" (intoxicated) all the time so in effect to step into someone else's house in a domestic is counter-productive... really no matter what is occurring.... all deeds and misdeeds bring about local learning.... and this world needs a lot of learning NOW, because it has not much time left.
War has never been about learning..... it has always been about selfish acts...never for the benefit of the whole..so it is anti LIFE and therefore EVIL (not in a religious sense).
Until the biochemistry of people as a whole is cleaned up... you have madness, and with madness comes a lack of concern for consequences, no fear and claims that DOG is on my side
pathetic earthlings, you will destroy until you die... only a few of your years away now
misery for all is all you crave for
iseason
29th September 2008 - 08:32 AM
Hi all
War is just a lolly scramble for adults. But you must know your target audience.
Don't just throw sweets, for those who want sour lollies
Don't give hard candy to jelly connoisseurs
Make sure there are toys for the boys
Barbie "hospital dress up for the girls"
Construction sets,viewfinders (for those who couldn't get to the party)
Must have poppers , noisemakers and NORMAL paraphernalia.
Limit the parents to the minimum needed to ensure they have fun, but not so many as to restrain the "free expression of children".
By the time they are finished, put them to bed to recover and plan who's party they will attend next week.
Cheers
Iseason
Zarkov
30th September 2008 - 01:08 AM
sweets
mmmh
What did the Us give Iraqi children?????
Bomb Bombs
iseason
30th September 2008 - 01:49 AM
QUOTE (Zarkov+Sep 30 2008, 02:08 PM)
sweets
mmmh
What did the Us give Iraqi children?????
Bomb Bombs
I was being sarcastic
Zarkov
1st October 2008 - 04:27 AM
bump
wcelliott
3rd October 2008 - 02:33 AM
The latest war in Iraq was the first in history in which all bombing missions were deliberately planned to *AVOID* civilian casualties.
Precision-guided munitions cost more than dumb "iron bombs". We spent more money on the war than we had to to achieve our military objectives.
And it didn't happen that way by accident, the US has been spending a lot of its money on protecting our troops *AND* avoiding civilian casualties ("collateral damage"), putting its money where its ethical principles are.
We don't do it for fun, we don't do it for Dr. Strangelove-type desire for glory through war. We do it because we *aren't* bloodthirsty war-mongers. We're the biggest bouncer in the strip club, and sometimes we have to intervene when some jerk starts a fight.
Who else is going to step-up? France?
philip347
3rd October 2008 - 03:02 AM
WC, please place an according re, to whoever you are replying too in this thread?
As asked news services, the apparent use of a new type of Russian weapons, that can penetrate the M-1 Abrams laterally.
2. History of antitank weapons, the charged shape utilizing molten copper, to burn through armor plating, at high velocities.
3.Aviation Week and Space Technology, the use of both air burst weapons, which exceed the fourteen thousand foot per second closing range, to atop an armored vehicle and high velocity air dispersed mines, which drill trough heavy plating, from beneath.
On androids, methods of manufacture, which entails that once a product goes through full scale industrial production, that that item will become more and more advanced.
Capracus
4th October 2008 - 02:01 PM
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