theories have it, that a massive stellar object that has been on the outskirts of our solarsystem, has a strange orbit that leads it to the center of this solar system
ofc i will never claim to be a 100% doom believer, but i would rather gather my evidence before screaming and packing my bags looking for a comet to hitch a ride from
from my own pathetic attempt to research, i have found that for over 1 century scientists and mathematicians theorised the existence of a planetary object that had to be revealed, later it was discovered to be pluto. yet scientists are still stuck on explaining a further gravitational pull action on the farthest planets, theories also suggest increasing wobbling of our sun and additional movement of the planets aswell as changing and irratic weather patterns on earth
may i state, im looking for theories, and scientific facts, not sarcasm and a link to a bible shop
thank you in advance
QUOTE (niroshido+)
yet scientists are still stuck on explaining a further gravitational pull action on the farthest planets,
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According to Sitchin's interpretation of Sumerian cosmology, there is a hypothetical planet which follows a long, elliptical orbit, reaching the inner solar system roughly every 3,600 years. This planet is called Nibiru (the planet associated with Marduk in Babylonian cosmology). Nibiru collided catastrophically with Tiamat, another hypothetical planet that was between Mars and Jupiter. The collision formed the planet Earth, the asteroid belt, and the comets. Tiamat, as outlined in the Enûma Elish, is a goddess. According to Sitchin, however, Tiamat may have been what we now know as Earth. When struck by one of planet Nibiru's moons, Tiamat split in two. On a second pass Nibiru itself struck the broken fragments and one half of Tiamat became the asteroid belt. The second half, struck again by one of Nibiru's moons, was pushed into a new orbit and became today's planet Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin
Hey TheDoc,
It might be my computer but your link went nowhere
It might be my computer but your link went nowhere
ok fair nough, so should i take the tin foil hat off and replace it with the dunce hat?
QUOTE (xtrmn8r+Mar 24 2008, 12:14 AM)
Hey TheDoc,
It might be my computer but your link went nowhere
Yep, just checked it and the link is broken. I'll fix it.
It might be my computer but your link went nowhere
Yep, just checked it and the link is broken. I'll fix it.
Okay guys, link fixed.
thanks for the info
and the link to the bible shop lol, no
i hope scientists find a better engine, im getting sick of waiting for NASA to come up with something good
and the link to the bible shop lol, no
i hope scientists find a better engine, im getting sick of waiting for NASA to come up with something good
niroshido
Only if you actually believe this stuff
Zacharia Stichin is interesting reading if you're into such things, but take him with several grains of salt.
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ok fair nough, so should i take the tin foil hat off and replace it with the dunce hat?
Only if you actually believe this stuff
Zacharia Stichin is interesting reading if you're into such things, but take him with several grains of salt.
like i said, i dont believe it until i have all angles covered, jumping to conclusions is bad, and so are assumptions, i would rather have scientific evidence than the crasy mumblings of some random doomsayer, but fact i heard planet X mentioned several times, and that the interstellar objects (planets) have been reclassified due to some orbital mass in our system, besides i also heard that an object has a peculuar orbital path which passes the earth once every century anyways, (im quite sure it was a comet) this is why i asked
another reason i ask is simple
i never claimed to have a full understanding of the stellar objects in, or around our solar system, but doppler effect states that the planets in our system are under gravitation from an external force.
another reason i ask is simple
i never claimed to have a full understanding of the stellar objects in, or around our solar system, but doppler effect states that the planets in our system are under gravitation from an external force.
www.cartage.org.lb/.../CometHalley.htm
this was what i was thinking about, obviously i need to brush up on my astronomy, and get my facts right
obviously halleys comet was the object that had the unusual orbit, which is what generated my false image
BTW that halleys comet is due to pass earth in 2024
heres another image of the halleys comit orbit
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Scienc...ey_ecliptic.gif
this was what i was thinking about, obviously i need to brush up on my astronomy, and get my facts right
obviously halleys comet was the object that had the unusual orbit, which is what generated my false image
BTW that halleys comet is due to pass earth in 2024
heres another image of the halleys comit orbit
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Scienc...ey_ecliptic.gif
If it is there, Earth is in allot of trouble.
All I know, is that the original Annu-knockie, by how the story goes, were instrumental in engineering mankind as a project in Africa and then in Sumerian.
From what I have heard, early mankind was a combination of the Annu-knockies genes and primates, which were the second choice, after the animal on animal genetic experiments had failed.
There are tellings in other quadrants, that the nefilum, were transplants from other star system, which were giant, due to trends in relational to mass of suns, placements, causing gigantisms, in some of these off world visitors.
From what is said, the Annu-knockie grew bored and it were fell in love with their genetic creations and bore fruit of this marriage.
So the factor of love was in there to begin with.
The Atlantians it seems, the very old sects, came to Earth as forth dimensional matter, due to the frequencies of their burning suns, from it seems the Lira Constellation.
Because Earths sun had burned at a much harsher frequency, the frequency chop, would reduce forth dimensional matter, to a third matter state.
In Yahoos Spirit web, which is now disbanded, it was said that the very early Atlantians once they started to experience to downtrend to third dimensional matter, built massive crystal forest, that they could walk into, which would give them the feeling of being in the forth state of matter once more.
This was a way, also most of fighting an addiction to a feeling, which in some very odd way, may have to do with some types of drug addictions today, having to do with crystal use?
Remember the product of the Annu-knockie were the two stages of mankind made from both more advanced primate and the Annu-knockie gene.
It seems somewhere along the line, that both the product of the Annu-knockie and the Atalians and Lemurians, married, giving gene characteristics, to the mixtured being from this process.
Time, genetics and wars, reduced humans to the size they are today.
Some of the precedents from the Annu-knoickies heira, give basis to our political and work structures that we have today. For example the word or phrase, (your hired), comes from the intention of Heira, which yields forth the word, hierarchy.
So the past presence of the Annu-knockie very heavily affected the past development of humans on this globe.
I don’t know if Planet X is going to come back, or that its return will be augmented in some way, that Earthlings are not affected.?
It seems that in some instances. There is a genetic brick wall, that humans in many areas are running up against, however this may or may not have to do with freqi8ency.
Planet X is about a tenth smaller than planet Jupiter, but is a failed brown dwarf star, of tremendous mass, as this dusty brown star, never had the internal size or heat for fusion to core heat start, which would have ignited it as a sun.
It is surmised, that the nine moons that travel with Planet X use a field changing quantum field variance, to be able to steer the more massive brown dwarf, which the nine moons surround.
It was supposed by a person who had contributed to the Art Bell show, that the super-lizards and or humanoids that were the Annu-knockie, have re-engineered themselves, to be multi-eyed and super way over our most advanced genetic engineering attempts.
This was both a dream and an illustration that he sent to coasttocoast via a very lucid dream.
So the attachments of any affection may no longer be there, however nothing is for certain.
You cant blast Planet X with any kind of bomb, as it is so massive and compact, that any weapons would simply bounce off.
This is as much as I know.
Apparently they are starting to get photographs in from some scientific sources, indicating that some very massive body is comet this way.
I won’t commit to anything more than learned conjecture on my says here.
Hope this helps? Phil347
All I know, is that the original Annu-knockie, by how the story goes, were instrumental in engineering mankind as a project in Africa and then in Sumerian.
From what I have heard, early mankind was a combination of the Annu-knockies genes and primates, which were the second choice, after the animal on animal genetic experiments had failed.
There are tellings in other quadrants, that the nefilum, were transplants from other star system, which were giant, due to trends in relational to mass of suns, placements, causing gigantisms, in some of these off world visitors.
From what is said, the Annu-knockie grew bored and it were fell in love with their genetic creations and bore fruit of this marriage.
So the factor of love was in there to begin with.
The Atlantians it seems, the very old sects, came to Earth as forth dimensional matter, due to the frequencies of their burning suns, from it seems the Lira Constellation.
Because Earths sun had burned at a much harsher frequency, the frequency chop, would reduce forth dimensional matter, to a third matter state.
In Yahoos Spirit web, which is now disbanded, it was said that the very early Atlantians once they started to experience to downtrend to third dimensional matter, built massive crystal forest, that they could walk into, which would give them the feeling of being in the forth state of matter once more.
This was a way, also most of fighting an addiction to a feeling, which in some very odd way, may have to do with some types of drug addictions today, having to do with crystal use?
Remember the product of the Annu-knockie were the two stages of mankind made from both more advanced primate and the Annu-knockie gene.
It seems somewhere along the line, that both the product of the Annu-knockie and the Atalians and Lemurians, married, giving gene characteristics, to the mixtured being from this process.
Time, genetics and wars, reduced humans to the size they are today.
Some of the precedents from the Annu-knoickies heira, give basis to our political and work structures that we have today. For example the word or phrase, (your hired), comes from the intention of Heira, which yields forth the word, hierarchy.
So the past presence of the Annu-knockie very heavily affected the past development of humans on this globe.
I don’t know if Planet X is going to come back, or that its return will be augmented in some way, that Earthlings are not affected.?
It seems that in some instances. There is a genetic brick wall, that humans in many areas are running up against, however this may or may not have to do with freqi8ency.
Planet X is about a tenth smaller than planet Jupiter, but is a failed brown dwarf star, of tremendous mass, as this dusty brown star, never had the internal size or heat for fusion to core heat start, which would have ignited it as a sun.
It is surmised, that the nine moons that travel with Planet X use a field changing quantum field variance, to be able to steer the more massive brown dwarf, which the nine moons surround.
It was supposed by a person who had contributed to the Art Bell show, that the super-lizards and or humanoids that were the Annu-knockie, have re-engineered themselves, to be multi-eyed and super way over our most advanced genetic engineering attempts.
This was both a dream and an illustration that he sent to coasttocoast via a very lucid dream.
So the attachments of any affection may no longer be there, however nothing is for certain.
You cant blast Planet X with any kind of bomb, as it is so massive and compact, that any weapons would simply bounce off.
This is as much as I know.
Apparently they are starting to get photographs in from some scientific sources, indicating that some very massive body is comet this way.
I won’t commit to anything more than learned conjecture on my says here.
Hope this helps? Phil347
QUOTE (phillip347+)
The Atlantians it seems, the very old sects, came to Earth as forth dimensional matter, due to the frequencies of their burning suns, from it seems the Lira Constellation.
Whatever drug you're taking, I'd advise you to stop.
No, you know absolutely nothing. You're a wacko, period.
No, you know absolutely nothing. You're a wacko, period.
Hope this helps?
No, you didn't help. The only way you can help is by leaving. You're in need of some very powerful antipsychotics, Phillip, and I suggest you take them now.
Whatever drug you're taking, I'd advise you to stop.
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You cant blast Planet X with any kind of bomb, as it is so massive and compact, that any weapons would simply bounce off.
This is as much as I know.
This is as much as I know.
No, you know absolutely nothing. You're a wacko, period.
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| QUOTE |
| You cant blast Planet X with any kind of bomb, as it is so massive and compact, that any weapons would simply bounce off. This is as much as I know. |
No, you know absolutely nothing. You're a wacko, period.
Hope this helps?
No, you didn't help. The only way you can help is by leaving. You're in need of some very powerful antipsychotics, Phillip, and I suggest you take them now.
My understanding is that at least some of the claims revolve around Pluto and the idea that PLuto isn't actually the planet that Clive Tombaugh was looking for.
The idea runs along the lines that Tombaugh went looking for Pluto, because it's existence had been predicted based on deviations in the orbit of Neptune (the same way neptune was itself found by pertubations in the orbit of Uranus), however, PLuto itself does not have sufficient mass to produce the observed perturbations in Neptunes orbit.
It's also my understanding that those perturbations have since been dismissed as an observational error.
I suspect that this idea has been 'confused' with an idea that was posed in the eighties (I have an inkling that Luis Alvarez may have been involved, but I'm not 100% sure) that the Sun may have a low mass stellar companion, a red dwarf, or a brown dwarf that perturbs the Oort Cloud/Kuiper Belt every 230 million years or so, sending a shower of comets inwards, some of which hit the earth. It's an idea that's taken seriously enough that there have been a couple of searches for it (without a great deal of success) - it's also an idea that forms one of the core themes of Nivern and Purnells book "Lucifers Hammer" (an excellent read, I reccomend it).
I suspect that the work of Vellikovsky may have played a role as well, but ultimately, it's one of those situations where (i think) a bit of truth has got mixed in with a bit of fiction, and a bit of myth.
The idea runs along the lines that Tombaugh went looking for Pluto, because it's existence had been predicted based on deviations in the orbit of Neptune (the same way neptune was itself found by pertubations in the orbit of Uranus), however, PLuto itself does not have sufficient mass to produce the observed perturbations in Neptunes orbit.
It's also my understanding that those perturbations have since been dismissed as an observational error.
I suspect that this idea has been 'confused' with an idea that was posed in the eighties (I have an inkling that Luis Alvarez may have been involved, but I'm not 100% sure) that the Sun may have a low mass stellar companion, a red dwarf, or a brown dwarf that perturbs the Oort Cloud/Kuiper Belt every 230 million years or so, sending a shower of comets inwards, some of which hit the earth. It's an idea that's taken seriously enough that there have been a couple of searches for it (without a great deal of success) - it's also an idea that forms one of the core themes of Nivern and Purnells book "Lucifers Hammer" (an excellent read, I reccomend it).
I suspect that the work of Vellikovsky may have played a role as well, but ultimately, it's one of those situations where (i think) a bit of truth has got mixed in with a bit of fiction, and a bit of myth.
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 24 2008, 09:20 AM)
My understanding is that at least some of the claims revolve around Pluto and the idea that PLuto isn't actually the planet that Clive Tombaugh was looking for.
The idea runs along the lines that Tombaugh went looking for Pluto, because it's existence had been predicted based on deviations in the orbit of Neptune (the same way neptune was itself found by pertubations in the orbit of Uranus), however, PLuto itself does not have sufficient mass to produce the observed perturbations in Neptunes orbit.
It's also my understanding that those perturbations have since been dismissed as an observational error.
I suspect that this idea has been 'confused' with an idea that was posed in the eighties (I have an inkling that Luis Alvarez may have been involved, but I'm not 100% sure) that the Sun may have a low mass stellar companion, a red dwarf, or a brown dwarf that perturbs the Oort Cloud/Kuiper Belt every 230 million years or so, sending a shower of comets inwards, some of which hit the earth. It's an idea that's taken seriously enough that there have been a couple of searches for it (without a great deal of success) - it's also an idea that forms one of the core themes of Nivern and Purnells book "Lucifers Hammer" (an excellent read, I reccomend it).
I suspect that the work of Vellikovsky may have played a role as well, but ultimately, it's one of those situations where (i think) a bit of truth has got mixed in with a bit of fiction, and a bit of myth.
If I'm not mistaken the suns dark companion is/was called "Nemesis".
I could also be mistaken about the period but thought it was somewhere around 30 million years between the "Oort pertubations". The 30 million was/is a convenient factor that aligned with the various extinction events.
I do believe that it (as you said) originated with or around Alvarez.
I certainly don't reject the notion. Such a body wouldn't be observable by pretty much any technology we have even as it approached the Oort Cloud to do it's dirty deed. As someone leaning toward many of the theories associated with the Electric Sun/Universe people I don't think anything there would rule out Nemesis' existence but instead I'd imagine that it could in some ways bolster some of their arguments about electrical interactions between distant massive bodies.
All that said, I think Alvarez (or whoever originated the idea) has a better basis for theorizing than ANY mixed up ancient mythologies.
I don't know if we'd ever be ready to deal effectively with some sort of rain of comets. But perhaps it will be some future test of our ability to evolutionarily adapt. Maybe the next technological species would rise from such an event? Who knows? Perhaps 70 million years from now the descendants of Cephalopods will be sharing their thoughts on a physics forum.
The idea runs along the lines that Tombaugh went looking for Pluto, because it's existence had been predicted based on deviations in the orbit of Neptune (the same way neptune was itself found by pertubations in the orbit of Uranus), however, PLuto itself does not have sufficient mass to produce the observed perturbations in Neptunes orbit.
It's also my understanding that those perturbations have since been dismissed as an observational error.
I suspect that this idea has been 'confused' with an idea that was posed in the eighties (I have an inkling that Luis Alvarez may have been involved, but I'm not 100% sure) that the Sun may have a low mass stellar companion, a red dwarf, or a brown dwarf that perturbs the Oort Cloud/Kuiper Belt every 230 million years or so, sending a shower of comets inwards, some of which hit the earth. It's an idea that's taken seriously enough that there have been a couple of searches for it (without a great deal of success) - it's also an idea that forms one of the core themes of Nivern and Purnells book "Lucifers Hammer" (an excellent read, I reccomend it).
I suspect that the work of Vellikovsky may have played a role as well, but ultimately, it's one of those situations where (i think) a bit of truth has got mixed in with a bit of fiction, and a bit of myth.
If I'm not mistaken the suns dark companion is/was called "Nemesis".
I could also be mistaken about the period but thought it was somewhere around 30 million years between the "Oort pertubations". The 30 million was/is a convenient factor that aligned with the various extinction events.
I do believe that it (as you said) originated with or around Alvarez.
I certainly don't reject the notion. Such a body wouldn't be observable by pretty much any technology we have even as it approached the Oort Cloud to do it's dirty deed. As someone leaning toward many of the theories associated with the Electric Sun/Universe people I don't think anything there would rule out Nemesis' existence but instead I'd imagine that it could in some ways bolster some of their arguments about electrical interactions between distant massive bodies.
All that said, I think Alvarez (or whoever originated the idea) has a better basis for theorizing than ANY mixed up ancient mythologies.
I don't know if we'd ever be ready to deal effectively with some sort of rain of comets. But perhaps it will be some future test of our ability to evolutionarily adapt. Maybe the next technological species would rise from such an event? Who knows? Perhaps 70 million years from now the descendants of Cephalopods will be sharing their thoughts on a physics forum.
QUOTE (TheDoc+Mar 24 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE (niroshido+)
yet scientists are still stuck on explaining a further gravitational pull action on the farthest planets,
This might be what you're looking for.
I read the 12th planet many moons ago, interesting but very dry.
This might be what you're looking for.
I read the 12th planet many moons ago, interesting but very dry.
QUOTE (CTYankee+Mar 24 2008, 12:36 PM)
QUOTE (TheDoc+)
This might be what you're looking for.
I read the 12th planet many moons ago, interesting but very dry.
But he might not have read it, so I posted it. Okay?
I read the 12th planet many moons ago, interesting but very dry.
But he might not have read it, so I posted it. Okay?
due to the nature of pluto's orbit (i think) they decided that they needed to reclassify what they considered a planet
due to the mass, and gas content the reclassified 'planets' as mere stellar objects, i think
but its obvious to me there are some people here who seem to know everything (TheDoc) and care to insult people based on wild theories, rather than being more subtle by advertising facts and scientific notes
there are many orbiting bodies in this solar system, some with obscure orbital paths, that have revealed the nature of the systems birth
due to the mass, and gas content the reclassified 'planets' as mere stellar objects, i think
but its obvious to me there are some people here who seem to know everything (TheDoc) and care to insult people based on wild theories, rather than being more subtle by advertising facts and scientific notes
there are many orbiting bodies in this solar system, some with obscure orbital paths, that have revealed the nature of the systems birth
QUOTE (niroshido+)
due to the nature of pluto's orbit (i think) they decided that they needed to reclassify what they considered a planet
Partially correct.
The 2006 definiton of a planet
When did I claim to know everything? Where did I claim to know everything? If you're going to make statements like that, you'd better be prepared to back them up.
When did I claim to know everything? Where did I claim to know everything? If you're going to make statements like that, you'd better be prepared to back them up.
and care to insult people based on wild theories, rather than being more subtle by advertising facts and scientific notes
*smashes head on desk* When will people get that logic and science does not work people like phillip347? Phillip thinks he was abducted by aliens and that the Atlanteans once ruled the earth! Talk about wild theories!
Don't you think we've actually tried using science against people like Phillip? It doesn't work. He's a wacko, a nutter, and nothing will ever change his views.
Partially correct.
The 2006 definiton of a planet
QUOTE
but its obvious to me there are some people here who seem to know everything (TheDoc)
When did I claim to know everything? Where did I claim to know everything? If you're going to make statements like that, you'd better be prepared to back them up.
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| QUOTE |
| but its obvious to me there are some people here who seem to know everything (TheDoc) |
When did I claim to know everything? Where did I claim to know everything? If you're going to make statements like that, you'd better be prepared to back them up.
and care to insult people based on wild theories, rather than being more subtle by advertising facts and scientific notes
*smashes head on desk* When will people get that logic and science does not work people like phillip347? Phillip thinks he was abducted by aliens and that the Atlanteans once ruled the earth! Talk about wild theories!
Don't you think we've actually tried using science against people like Phillip? It doesn't work. He's a wacko, a nutter, and nothing will ever change his views.
QUOTE (TheDoc+Mar 25 2008, 07:37 AM)
When did I claim to know everything? Where did I claim to know everything?
No, he said "you seem to know everything". I think he's jealous of your superior knowledge
No, he said "you seem to know everything". I think he's jealous of your superior knowledge
im yanking your chain theDoc, obviously people take jokes too seriously 
but i'll let it pass since its hard to find emotion on the internet without using smilies
IF there was an object that would have such an orbit, every scientist in the world would know about it.
I am more interested in the new discoveries scientists are making in other solar systems, have they got any closer to identifying planets of a near identical gas make up of our own earth?
BTW to suggest that i am sane, here is little known facts bout me
I believe the earth is round
I dont believe earth was populated by martians, or that martians abduct the unwanted masses of earth
I dont believe in religion ( but inner peace, and personal space ( i dont like ppl standing a cm from my face, unless ur a hot lady and ur wanting to make out with me
)
The Earths climate is under change, and the magnetic poles are supposdly moving, there was a documentry on which describes increased tetonic activity
I dont believe humans can travel faster than the speed of light, or that time can be altered (time is a perspective, time SEEMS slower to people more bored (your day must be dragging on then TheDoc, while reading this LOL)
the fox is under a process of evolution as wild life experts have noticed an increase in the length of the legs (this is to counter suburban sprawl)
i believe the earth was created due to the collision of debris in the dust clouds formed around the sun, millions of years ago
i believe i am partially SANE ( see phychiatrist certificate of sanity for proof) lol
also another edit:
i dont know who philips is, imof i pretty much read one line of his post and skipped down to urs theDoc (yep i went to ur post, obviously your looked apon in this forums by those who seek to be enlightened)
also i dont know who you are, apart from u having made alot of posts in this thread, and alot more, but im asuming u spend ur day floating through this forums identifying retards and intellegent ppl
but i'll let it pass since its hard to find emotion on the internet without using smiliesIF there was an object that would have such an orbit, every scientist in the world would know about it.
I am more interested in the new discoveries scientists are making in other solar systems, have they got any closer to identifying planets of a near identical gas make up of our own earth?
BTW to suggest that i am sane, here is little known facts bout me
I believe the earth is round
I dont believe earth was populated by martians, or that martians abduct the unwanted masses of earth
I dont believe in religion ( but inner peace, and personal space ( i dont like ppl standing a cm from my face, unless ur a hot lady and ur wanting to make out with me
)The Earths climate is under change, and the magnetic poles are supposdly moving, there was a documentry on which describes increased tetonic activity
I dont believe humans can travel faster than the speed of light, or that time can be altered (time is a perspective, time SEEMS slower to people more bored (your day must be dragging on then TheDoc, while reading this LOL)
the fox is under a process of evolution as wild life experts have noticed an increase in the length of the legs (this is to counter suburban sprawl)
i believe the earth was created due to the collision of debris in the dust clouds formed around the sun, millions of years ago
i believe i am partially SANE ( see phychiatrist certificate of sanity for proof) lol
also another edit:
i dont know who philips is, imof i pretty much read one line of his post and skipped down to urs theDoc (yep i went to ur post, obviously your looked apon in this forums by those who seek to be enlightened)
also i dont know who you are, apart from u having made alot of posts in this thread, and alot more, but im asuming u spend ur day floating through this forums identifying retards and intellegent ppl
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 24 2008, 04:20 AM)
My understanding is that at least some of the claims revolve around Pluto and the idea that PLuto isn't actually the planet that Clive Tombaugh was looking for.
The idea runs along the lines that Tombaugh went looking for Pluto, because it's existence had been predicted based on deviations in the orbit of Neptune (the same way neptune was itself found by pertubations in the orbit of Uranus), however, PLuto itself does not have sufficient mass to produce the observed perturbations in Neptunes orbit.
It's also my understanding that those perturbations have since been dismissed as an observational error.
I suspect that this idea has been 'confused' with an idea that was posed in the eighties (I have an inkling that Luis Alvarez may have been involved, but I'm not 100% sure) that the Sun may have a low mass stellar companion, a red dwarf, or a brown dwarf that perturbs the Oort Cloud/Kuiper Belt every 230 million years or so, sending a shower of comets inwards, some of which hit the earth. It's an idea that's taken seriously enough that there have been a couple of searches for it (without a great deal of success) - it's also an idea that forms one of the core themes of Nivern and Purnells book "Lucifers Hammer" (an excellent read, I reccomend it).
I suspect that the work of Vellikovsky may have played a role as well, but ultimately, it's one of those situations where (i think) a bit of truth has got mixed in with a bit of fiction, and a bit of myth.
The idea runs along the lines that Tombaugh went looking for Pluto, because it's existence had been predicted based on deviations in the orbit of Neptune (the same way neptune was itself found by pertubations in the orbit of Uranus), however, PLuto itself does not have sufficient mass to produce the observed perturbations in Neptunes orbit.
It's also my understanding that those perturbations have since been dismissed as an observational error.
I suspect that this idea has been 'confused' with an idea that was posed in the eighties (I have an inkling that Luis Alvarez may have been involved, but I'm not 100% sure) that the Sun may have a low mass stellar companion, a red dwarf, or a brown dwarf that perturbs the Oort Cloud/Kuiper Belt every 230 million years or so, sending a shower of comets inwards, some of which hit the earth. It's an idea that's taken seriously enough that there have been a couple of searches for it (without a great deal of success) - it's also an idea that forms one of the core themes of Nivern and Purnells book "Lucifers Hammer" (an excellent read, I reccomend it).
I suspect that the work of Vellikovsky may have played a role as well, but ultimately, it's one of those situations where (i think) a bit of truth has got mixed in with a bit of fiction, and a bit of myth.
QUOTE (niroshido+)
im yanking your chain theDoc, obviously people take jokes too seriously
You seem unaware of the amount of people who consider me to be "condescending" and "arrogant". So forgive me if I don't take the joke lightly.
I try to help where I can but I assure I'm far from being the most knowledgable person on this forum.
I try to help where I can but I assure I'm far from being the most knowledgable person on this forum.
but im asuming u spend ur day floating through this forums identifying retards and intellegent ppl
Why you've got it!
I try to help where I can but I assure I'm far from being the most knowledgable person on this forum.
Why you've got it!
can i have a cookie now
You seem unaware of the amount of people who consider me to be "condescending" and "arrogant". So forgive me if I don't take the joke lightly.
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i dont know who philips is, imof i pretty much read one line of his post and skipped down to urs theDoc (yep i went to ur post, obviously your looked apon in this forums by those who seek to be enlightened
I try to help where I can but I assure I'm far from being the most knowledgable person on this forum.
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| i dont know who philips is, imof i pretty much read one line of his post and skipped down to urs theDoc (yep i went to ur post, obviously your looked apon in this forums by those who seek to be enlightened |
I try to help where I can but I assure I'm far from being the most knowledgable person on this forum.
but im asuming u spend ur day floating through this forums identifying retards and intellegent ppl
Why you've got it!
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Mar 25 2008, 08:08 AM)
Wikipedia - Nemesis (Star)
That's the one.
Couldn't rightly recall the name.
Couldn't rightly be bothered looking for it.
That's the one.
Couldn't rightly recall the name.
Couldn't rightly be bothered looking for it.
QUOTE (TheDoc+Mar 24 2008, 07:40 PM)
I try to help where I can but I assure I'm far from being the most knowledgable person on this forum.
Why you've got it!
can i have a cookie now
QUOTE (niroshido+Mar 24 2008, 10:58 PM)
can i have a cookie now
No, you'll spoil your appetite.
No, you'll spoil your appetite.
Alrighty then Senor or Senora Doc,Iffen you were a grid scientist you could laugh at your process,just a-like I ah- do.I deplete Doctors,do you have your will made made sir,or Maam?
Us-sen grid scientists who really ,really do understand this little ole universe just a tad bettah than your kind of folk,we does-uw -uh assure yah.
Please task me ,as I do live to tango,and deplete your Doc type boys to quivvering masses.
But now to a bit of reality,you certainly must understand that this cymatic lattice has those rings that have process in this universe that have different circles that objects can be captured in their field and return to their former places as they task through this little ole universe.
There are extra solar(your kinda folks kinda words) objects that do return and cause grid revv and other processes that cause so much consternation and protocoling by you Doc kinda forces that just makes little ole me just chuckle.
Now ,a -what ya gonna do when I ah -tell ya that comets are just core material that returns on those periodic lines ,through no choice of their own, to cause all of those theories that ya'll just virtually masturbate at the thought that you have all of those youngins on board with Ya.
And what happens when we have such a large object returning that everyone writes about that object from the perspective that they inhabit from I know where???
And since this is a DEBACKLE,you just might be chicken enough to task back to lil-ole me. That Grid scientist that just depletes the piss out of the place.
Its just exercise for me,when I am off from my taskings.
Care to Play??
Us-sen grid scientists who really ,really do understand this little ole universe just a tad bettah than your kind of folk,we does-uw -uh assure yah.
Please task me ,as I do live to tango,and deplete your Doc type boys to quivvering masses.
But now to a bit of reality,you certainly must understand that this cymatic lattice has those rings that have process in this universe that have different circles that objects can be captured in their field and return to their former places as they task through this little ole universe.
There are extra solar(your kinda folks kinda words) objects that do return and cause grid revv and other processes that cause so much consternation and protocoling by you Doc kinda forces that just makes little ole me just chuckle.
Now ,a -what ya gonna do when I ah -tell ya that comets are just core material that returns on those periodic lines ,through no choice of their own, to cause all of those theories that ya'll just virtually masturbate at the thought that you have all of those youngins on board with Ya.
And what happens when we have such a large object returning that everyone writes about that object from the perspective that they inhabit from I know where???
And since this is a DEBACKLE,you just might be chicken enough to task back to lil-ole me. That Grid scientist that just depletes the piss out of the place.
Its just exercise for me,when I am off from my taskings.
Care to Play??
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