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photojack
"All described feathers in nonavian theropods are composite structures formed by multiple filaments. They closely resemble relatively advanced stages predicted by developmental models of the origin of feathers, but not the earliest stage. Here, we report a feather type in two specimens of the basal therizinosaur Beipiaosaurus, in which each individual feather is represented by a single broad filament. This morphotype is congruent with the stage I morphology predicted by developmental models, and all major predicted morphotypes have now been documented in the fossil record. This congruence between the full range of paleontological and developmental data strongly supports the hypothesis that feathers evolved and initially diversified in nonavian theropods before the origin of birds and the evolution of flight." From the abstract for the article, "A New Feather Type in a Nonavian Theropod and the Early Evolution of Feathers by Xing Xu, Xiaoting Zheng and Hailu You in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. (Emphasis mine.)

How can ANYBODY, Dud1, MisterBelfry and others read this and NOT believe in evolution and the predictive power of scientific modeling? ohmy.gif These types of new discoveries absolutely prove evolution to have occurred and confirm for all thinking people the genius of Darwin's initial support and evidence backing his theory. From 1859 through the countless new species descriptions and new fossil discoveries to our current times, evolutionary theory has NEVER been questioned or brought to doubt by ANY peer-reviewed scientist's writings. Science and those in the know are unanimous in their cognition and belief in evolution as the SOLE explanatory theory for the development of life on our planet. How can Creationists and other brainwashed, indoctrinated goons think they will EVER supplant Darwinian evolution with their blatant lies and hogwash? wacko.gif It is a lost cause and only continues to make them look completely ignorant, biased and disconnected from reality! blink.gif SCIENCE PREVAILS, RELIGION FAILS! cool.gif
FGG
QUOTE (photojack+Jan 20 2009, 04:16 PM)
How can ANYBODY, Dud1, MisterBelfry and others read this and NOT believe in evolution and the predictive power of scientific modeling?  ohmy.gif

Because theological blindness in individuals with weak intellectual processes is absolute. There is nothing short of god himself coming down and declaring that he-himself does not exist, that will convince these brainless automatons that he/she/it DOES NOT EXIST! And as long as god exists in their feeble minds, there is no room for anything else! PERIOD!

You just have to look to Dad1's invention of a different rate past (or whatever he calls it) to see how far these types will go to delude themselves into believeing that religion and god and all that other garbage is real!

FGG
MisterBelfry


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This congruence between the full range of paleontological and developmental data strongly supports the hypothesis that feathers evolved[or were created for diversification as Intelligent Design would maintain, MrB.] and initially diversified in nonavian theropods before the origin of birds and the evolution of flight." From the abstract for the article, "A New Feather Type in a Nonavian Theropod and the Early Evolution of Feathers by Xing Xu, Xiaoting Zheng and Hailu You in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


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A fossil of a primitive feathered dinosaur uncovered in <a href="http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/places/countries/country_china.html">China</a> is helping scientists create a better model of how dinosaurs evolved into modern birds.

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How Flying Reptiles Rose
MSNBC - Jan 6, 2009
Michael Habib, a researcher at the medical school's Center for Functional Anatomy and Evolution, came up with a computerized model for pterosaur flight ...
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Pterosaurs Used All Four Legs for Take-Off Launching themselves ... Softpedia
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Four, Three, Two, One . . . Pterosaurs Have Lift Off
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/...90106161514.htm


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PHOTO IN THE NEWS: Pterosaurs Took Flight on All Fours</h1>

The skull's size suggests that the Brazilian pterosaur had a roughly 16-foot (5-meter) wingspan and stood about 3.3 feet (a meter) high at its shoulders. With its long neck and jaw, the animal would have seemed as tall as a typical adult human (right).
New Feathered Dinosaur Found; Adds to Bird-Dino Theory</h1>
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/pf/67950232.html ----->
(Related: "First Dinosaur Feathers for Show, Not Flight?" [October 22, 2008].)
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I went back a few days, to find my copy of the AP report of Habib's findings. From a telephone interview, they quote him with concurrence from David Unwin of the University of Leicester that these reptile "birds" are not best to be thought of as your ordinary avian species! "Last year, researchers tried to figure out how they[in addition to the Hatzegopteryx (next to the giraffe in the "photo" link above) at 40 feet or more wingspan is an illustration of the 30 foot toothless pteranodon in flight] got off the ground by looking at the largest bird now flying, the albatross. They concluded that anything much bigger couldn't get off the ground the same way." Much to learn, it seems as new creature's fossils are found in rapid succession. And I am a bit confused: the AP illustration(provided by The Johns Hopkins University) calls it one thing(H. thambema) and the National Geographic calls it "Lacusovagus magnificens, or "magnificent lake wanderer," is the largest of its kind yet found, a new study reports." ?

MrB.
photojack
Nice links MistrBelfry, and all from legitimate scientific sources! biggrin.gif Have they or FGG's masterful analogy made you question your religiosity? unsure.gif Though science doesn't have ALL the answers and never will, it is constantly filling in the small voids that ALWAYS support Darwinian evolution. tongue.gif The evidence is overwhelming and convincing. The more you read and understand, the more sure one can be that the Creationists are full of cr@p in their weakly argued and presented case against evolution! wacko.gif Where do you stand? huh.gif
Quatermass
There was a good HORIZON programme on BBC several years ago about the first fossil finds of dinosaurs with bird characteristics and birds with dinosaur characteristics in China which deserves repeating.

Did you catch this recently:


http://evolutiondiary.com/2009/02/09/early...fossils-reveal/


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