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So you are still saying the exact opposite of The Discovery Institute?
They say that everything is the result of an Intelligence, and you say intelligence is the result of everything. You are still saying the intelligence is emergent from Evolution, right?
just checking.
I still think your explanation of evolution ---> intelligence is one of the best I've seen.
The DI says An Intelligence -----> Creation.
They say that everything is the result of an Intelligence, and you say intelligence is the result of everything. You are still saying the intelligence is emergent from Evolution, right?
just checking.
I still think your explanation of evolution ---> intelligence is one of the best I've seen.
The DI says An Intelligence -----> Creation.
QUOTE (buttershug+Sep 30 2009, 07:29 PM)
So you are still saying the exact opposite of The Discovery Institute?
From your perspective it would appear to be "opposite" but from the perspective of scientific theory it is simply coherently explaining the phenomena of intelligence and emergent intelligent cause as the premise of the theory requires. Or in other words, even though it is not what all expected it would reveal the theory still does well with those who were hopeful for a faith-friendly theory like this. If it were opposite then they would hate it.
From your perspective it would appear to be "opposite" but from the perspective of scientific theory it is simply coherently explaining the phenomena of intelligence and emergent intelligent cause as the premise of the theory requires. Or in other words, even though it is not what all expected it would reveal the theory still does well with those who were hopeful for a faith-friendly theory like this. If it were opposite then they would hate it.
QUOTE (buttershug+Sep 30 2009, 07:29 PM)
They say that everything is the result of an Intelligence, and you say intelligence is the result of everything. You are still saying the intelligence is emergent from Evolution, right?
The theory explains nonrandom self-assembly of molecular intelligence that produces what you call "evolution".
The theory explains nonrandom self-assembly of molecular intelligence that produces what you call "evolution".
QUOTE (buttershug+Sep 30 2009, 07:29 PM)
I still think your explanation of evolution ---> intelligence is one of the best I've seen.
The DI says An Intelligence -----> Creation.
Thanks, that helped made another miserable day more tolerable.
You are correct about the DI claiming that "Intelligence -----> Creation" but neither "evolution" or "evolutionary theory" are ever mentioned so it cannot be "evolution ---> intelligence". Of the two statements the highly ambiguous "Intelligence -----> Creation" is the only one that can here be true, with the theory eliminating its ambiguity by explaining how this emergent intelligence works. The equation would then be more like "Intelligence -----> Evolution" even though it sounds religious to those who were taught that "Intelligence = Supernatural".
The DI says An Intelligence -----> Creation.
Thanks, that helped made another miserable day more tolerable.
You are correct about the DI claiming that "Intelligence -----> Creation" but neither "evolution" or "evolutionary theory" are ever mentioned so it cannot be "evolution ---> intelligence". Of the two statements the highly ambiguous "Intelligence -----> Creation" is the only one that can here be true, with the theory eliminating its ambiguity by explaining how this emergent intelligence works. The equation would then be more like "Intelligence -----> Evolution" even though it sounds religious to those who were taught that "Intelligence = Supernatural".
Ah - so intelligence is caused by intelligence. Well, that certainly clears that up - NOT! 
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