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Whitewolf4869
Aoccdring to rscheearch by Lngiusiitc Dptanmeret at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny
iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset
can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
flyingbuttressman
One, you plagiarized that paragraph and didn't provide credit.

Two, this doesn't excuse your lazy writing.
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 3 2012, 09:39 PM)
One, you plagiarized that paragraph and didn't provide credit.

Two, this doesn't excuse your lazy writing.

Your just a CRANK
GO away!
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 3 2012, 05:43 PM)
Your just a CRANK
GO away!

*You're

And no.
Quantum_Conundrum
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 3 2012, 04:23 PM)
Aoccdring to rscheearch by Lngiusiitc Dptanmeret at Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny
iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset
can be a total msas and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

It's a bit more than that.

The human mind can "actually" read the entire page at one time, it's just we don't normally consciously understand it all simultaneously.

Established languages have internal, self reinforcing rules about every piece of information, particularly in phonetic alphabet languages. We have hundreds of hidden rules about the spelling and usage of words of which we are not consciously aware, because we learned language from the top down, even though language is structured from the bottom up.

The Phonology of the language's first and last syllables are in tact, and that is the most important part of the English language, and for that matter most phonetic alphabet languages.

Although it's not a perfect measure, the longer the word, the more "information" it contains in terms of characters. The more characters the more meaning can be represented. Our brains process all of this instinctively by habit from early childhood. The brain is already "searching ahead" for clues the instant it recognizes the leading phonetic of each word.
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (Quantum_Conundrum+Jul 3 2012, 09:50 PM)
It's a bit more than that.

The human mind can "actually" read the entire page at one time, it's just we don't normally consciously understand it all simultaneously.

Established languages have internal, self reinforcing rules about every piece of information, particularly in phonetic alphabet languages. We have hundreds of hidden rules about the spelling and usage of words of which we are not consciously aware, because we learned language from the top down, even though language is structured from the bottom up.

The Phonology of the language's first and last syllables are in tact, and that is the most important part of the English language, and for that matter most phonetic alphabet languages.

Although it's not a perfect measure, the longer the word, the more "information" it contains in terms of characters. The more characters the more meaning can be represented. Our brains process all of this instinctively by habit from early childhood. The brain is already "searching ahead" for clues the instant it recognizes the leading phonetic of each word.

Thank you for the civilized opinion on this subject.
Yes your right about reading an entire page at a time.
As far as spelling and grammar goes thats what secretaries and editors are for.
This leaves the creator free roam without distraction.
It must really suck spending life as a spell check program. lol
How did you get to 80% warm?
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 3 2012, 06:09 PM)
As far as spelling and grammar goes thats what secretaries and editors are for.
This leaves the creator free roam without distraction.

Poor spelling often results in words being used incorrectly. Something that you intended to write can often have a different meaning to a reader if words are used in a way that defies their general use. "Texting" spelling often results in vague statements that are easily misunderstood.
Physfan
QUOTE
Thank you for the civilized opinion on this subject.
Yes your right about reading an entire page at a time.
As far as spelling and grammar goes thats what secretaries and editors are for.
This leaves the creator free roam without distraction.
It must really suck spending life as a spell check program. lol
How did you get to 80% warm?


I agree with butthead! Your writing is that of an ignorant, semi-literate. All it does is clearly illustrate low intelligence, so low that you don't (perhaps, can't) understand how bad it really is.
As well, it shows a lack of respect for fellow forum users.

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QUOTE
Thank you for the civilized opinion on this subject.
Yes your right about reading an entire page at a time.
As far as spelling and grammar goes thats what secretaries and editors are for.
This leaves the creator free roam without distraction.
It must really suck spending life as a spell check program. lol
How did you get to 80% warm?


I agree with butthead! Your writing is that of an ignorant, semi-literate. All it does is clearly illustrate low intelligence, so low that you don't (perhaps, can't) understand how bad it really is.
As well, it shows a lack of respect for fellow forum users.

This leaves the creator free roam without distraction.

Creator of what? Ignorant, uninformed comment?
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (Physfan+Jul 5 2012, 01:37 AM)

I agree with butthead! Your writing is that of an ignorant, semi-literate. All it does is clearly illustrate low intelligence, so low that you don't (perhaps, can't) understand how bad it really is.
As well, it shows a lack of respect for fellow forum users.


Creator of what? Ignorant, uninformed comment?


Quote: Rpenner
"there are cranks every where"
If belittling other people is what gives you purpose in life then so be it.
I can live with that.
rpenner
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 3 2012, 09:39 PM)
One, you plagiarized that paragraph and didn't provide credit.

Copied, yes, certainly. Plagiarized is harder to demonstrate when it was a popular 2003 Internet meme.


The research appears to be: Rawlinson, G. E. (1976) The significance of letter position in word recognition. Unpublished PhD Thesis, Psychology Department, University of Nottingham, Nottingham UK.

http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/people/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/
soundhertz
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As well, it shows a lack of respect for fellow forum users.
But slurring fellow forum users by calling them butthead is not a lack of respect? Your posts remain unnecessarily aggressive. And no, I am not about to engage in useless argumentation with you; I am stating a point, and in my opinion, a fact.
Mekigal
QUOTE (Quantum_Conundrum+Jul 3 2012, 09:50 PM)
It's a bit more than that.

The human mind can "actually" read the entire page at one time, it's just we don't normally consciously understand it all simultaneously.

Established languages have internal, self reinforcing rules about every piece of information, particularly in phonetic alphabet languages. We have hundreds of hidden rules about the spelling and usage of words of which we are not consciously aware, because we learned language from the top down, even though language is structured from the bottom up.

The Phonology of the language's first and last syllables are in tact, and that is the most important part of the English language, and for that matter most phonetic alphabet languages.

Although it's not a perfect measure, the longer the word, the more "information" it contains in terms of characters. The more characters the more meaning can be represented. Our brains process all of this instinctively by habit from early childhood. The brain is already "searching ahead" for clues the instant it recognizes the leading phonetic of each word.

This looks right . Evidence of the hidden language we all speak . The advanced language I am always preaching . Speed read . Lets say your looking for specific information. Wading through meaningless filler in a text. Trying to get to the meat so to speak. You got a specific problem that needs a specific solution so you comb the text looking for the solution needed .
That is the mand at hand . Now contemplate how the mind is able to pick out desired text with out consciously reading the entire book or volumes of books on the subject .
You have a confirmation bias by your demand for a solution to a particular problem .
Creating a target area , which in turn the mind filters the white noise or Non related information out by the created bias .
The bias is not your thinking . The bias is the solution you are looking for , or remedy .
Now it is in the future . The remedy that you are seeking . Yet you are going through past text of information

O.K. sided tract just a little

The bias is created from the search for specific information there by blocking out non related information
Mekigal
QUOTE (rpenner+Jul 11 2012, 03:39 PM)
popular 2003 Internet meme.



Word of the day : Coined by a Guy named Skinner < Mand
Beat it with a stick . It connects well with memetics .

Anyway . So the thing about the last and the first . Well it can be to your detriment if that is all your mind relies on, for the interior of the verbiage may be saying something completely different than you conjure .
We had this discussion at S.F. and a Mormon blew into town so yeah I was ribbing him about his impressionistic view of womanhood . So he asked Me my native tongue
So I said Sawhili . Uta bula mo fo
See you could just see that as Swahili instead of my intended pun of Carpenter with a saw meme or I saw a heal and took advantage of you being a heal . It don't matter cause the mind for the most part I would think could only process Swahili as the word except for the few that are truly gifted beyond the normal awareness. I guess you would have to first know the Joker first and last
Whitewolf4869
Hey penner,how did I get to 60%.
I can't find any explanation.
Am I as big of a troll crank as Alex? wink.gif
rpenner
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 12 2012, 12:02 AM)
Hey penner,how did I get to 60%.
I can't find any explanation.

You need to click on the underlined "60%" in the left-hand panel which takes you to this page: http://www.physforum.com/index.php?act=war...45427&CODE=view
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (rpenner+Jul 12 2012, 12:08 AM)
You need to click on the underlined "60%" in the left-hand panel which takes you to this page: http://www.physforum.com/index.php?act=war...45427&CODE=view

K thanks
Whitewolf4869
"Unscientific awfulness"Lol
That sounds like a lot of the regulars.
I had a positive outlook when I signed up here.
Dealing with some of these cranks is just too much at times.
I'm just throwing ideas out there,there is no need for intellectual put downs.
I feel successful in life whout disrespecting others.
Just because this is Internet dosnt mean we shouldn't respect each other.
I think it's a good forum in general and I don't know what you could do to improve it.

I think your style of moderating is generally good although some people seem to get away with continuous nastiness and trolling without retribution.

I would apreceate a message if you have a problem with what I have said.
Thanks
Whitewolf4869
I have a favor to ask his lordship Renner in all his wisdom.
Could you please give FBM a warning?
He is probibly the most obnoxious individual I've ever head the displeasure to communicate with in my five decades on planet earth.
lady E or Alex have nothing on this individual.
I reviewed his postings and almost all are degrading no matter who he talks to.
Thanks for you attention.
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 12 2012, 07:32 PM)
Could you please give FBM a warning?
He is probibly the most obnoxious individual I've ever head the displeasure to communicate with in my five decades on planet earth.
lady E or Alex have nothing on this individual.
I reviewed his postings and almost all are degrading no matter who he talks to.

I've actually given YOU quite a few fair responses, which is far more than you deserve. Every single topic you start is a dishonest troll question. I give you honest answers to your questions, but it is obvious that you don't want answers, just fuel for your own ego.

I would like to think that the large majority of my responses are fair, given what I am responding to. The fact that many of those responses are negative has more to do with the large quantity of crank spam on this forum than with my general attitude toward humanity.
AlexG
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I have a favor to ask his lordship Renner in all his wisdom.


You can't even spell the moderator's name correctly? laugh.gif
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (AlexG+Jul 13 2012, 05:52 AM)

You can't even spell the moderator's name correctly? laugh.gif

Ha ha laugh.gif
You knew what I ment, didn't you?
That is the subject of this thread.
At least we know your not a bot and your not FBM,so you can't be that bad after all.
Have a good Friday the 13th
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 12 2012, 11:50 PM)
I've actually given YOU quite a few fair responses, which is far more than you deserve. Every single topic you start is a dishonest troll question. I give you honest answers to your questions, but it is obvious that you don't want answers, just fuel for your own ego.

I would like to think that the large majority of my responses are fair, given what I am responding to. The fact that many of those responses are negative has more to do with the large quantity of crank spam on this forum than with my general attitude toward humanity.

You are a rood mathematically illiterate bible thumper.
I have no desire to hear refrences to Wikipedia. I can search that sorce myself.
If you have some original thought then I welcome your input.
Don't tell me I'm always wrong when you don't even know what your talking about.
We should have a physforum troll vote
I elect FBM physforum's #1 TROLL
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 13 2012, 07:53 AM)
You are a rood mathematically illiterate bible thumper.
I have no desire to hear refrences to Wikipedia. I can search that sorce myself.
If you have some original thought then I welcome your input.
Don't tell me I'm always wrong when you don't even know what your talking about.
We should have a physforum troll vote
I elect FBM physforum's #1 TROLL

Your posting record is terrible. At no point in your incoherent posts were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Mekigal
QUOTE (Whitewolf4869+Jul 13 2012, 11:53 AM)
You are a rood mathematically illiterate bible thumper.
I have no desire to hear refrences to Wikipedia. I can search that sorce myself.
If you have some original thought then I welcome your input.
Don't tell me I'm always wrong when you don't even know what your talking about.
We should have a physforum troll vote
I elect FBM physforum's #1 TROLL

Is that true ? A bible thumper? Wow I didn't get that one at all . Surprise surprise . Shazam !!

I like the butterfly even still . I actually don't hold Christianity any more guilty than any other group of influence . They are human after all . Subject to daily human activities . Repetitive motions of your standard hygiene. Not the same as dogs like us licking our selves
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 13 2012, 12:09 PM)
Your posting record is terrible. At no point in your incoherent posts were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Amen
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Mekigal+Jul 13 2012, 02:48 PM)
Is that true ? A bible thumper? Wow I didn't get that one at all . Surprise surprise . Shazam !!

Count that as another instance of Whitewolf's stupidity. I'm an atheist.
Mekigal
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 13 2012, 09:26 PM)
Count that as another instance of Whitewolf's stupidity. I'm an atheist.

what was with the May God quote then ? Closet religiousness. No figure of speech perhaps ?
I bet you got some christian still lurking in your brain . Should we test it and see ?
we could Analysis your rituals . See if there is any religious connotations in them?
It surprising how some regular every day thoughts and actions have biblical roots to them . Considering Thomas Jefferson did a copy and past of the bible to write founding documents of governance for the U.S.
I do believe you are a U.S. citizen . Yeah that I think you are
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Mekigal+Jul 13 2012, 05:37 PM)
what was with the May God quote then ? Closet religiousness. No figure of speech perhaps ?
Mekigal
plagiarized
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Mekigal+Jul 13 2012, 06:56 PM)
plagiarized

I modified the original text, so no, not really.
Mekigal
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 13 2012, 10:57 PM)
I modified the original text, so no, not really.

at what point does intellectual property come into play ? copy word for word note for note ? I have heard of artist getting sued for specific themes in songs which seems way over board considering the limited view of most listeners ear( what is considered harmony of a simpletons likes( 1,4,5 stuff and all combos of that typically lay out in 8,12,16, bars)
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Mekigal+Jul 13 2012, 07:09 PM)
at what point does intellectual property come into play ? copy word for word note for note ? I have heard of artist getting sued for specific themes in songs which seems way over board considering the limited view of most listeners ear( what is considered harmony of a simpletons likes( 1,4,5 stuff and all combos of that typically lay out in 8,12,16, bars)

IP is not an exact science.
Whitewolf4869
QUOTE (flyingbuttressman+Jul 13 2012, 09:26 PM)
Count that as another instance of Whitewolf's stupidity. I'm an atheist.

Flying buttress??
"Shazam" another crock by FBM
What did I say when you asked if I even knew what flying buttress was?
Mekigal
I had to look it up . diagonal arched brace absorbing the load of a vault or roof , used for wind shear and load transfers . Fancy terminology for fancy bracing
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (Mekigal+Jul 13 2012, 08:48 PM)
I had to look it up . diagonal arched brace  absorbing the load of a vault or roof , used for wind shear and load transfers . Fancy terminology for fancy bracing

They were most famously used in the construction of gothic cathedrals. The vaulted ceilings had a habit of pushing the walls out instead of down, so they put braces against the walls like so.
soundhertz
First time I saw the screen name, I wondered if you were a rigger. Cool handle for a rigger. cool.gif
edit:I'm always on the lookout for fellow professional r'n'rollers - to commiserate with at least...
nopeda was one, believe it or not; a lighting tech. But he was on a mission here not involving a/v smile.gif
flyingbuttressman
QUOTE (soundhertz+Jul 13 2012, 10:48 PM)
First time I saw the screen name, I wondered if you were a rigger. Cool handle for a rigger. cool.gif
edit:I'm always on the lookout for fellow professional r'n'rollers - to commiserate with at least...
nopeda was one, believe it or not; a lighting tech. But he was on a mission here not involving a/v smile.gif

I've done a bit of work with pro audio systems. Many hours have been spent hovering over Mackie mixers and running cables. Not so much anymore, as my career took me elsewhere, but I still love getting my hands on quality sound gear.

"soundhertz" lol

What's your specialty?
soundhertz
QUOTE
What's your specialty?
For decades, it was very loud rock and roll. Audio mixing till the ears bled. Imagine mixing monitors for Jackyl, say, 4' - roughly a mixer & rack - away from that stage? Same with Frehley's Comet. And let's not forget Agnostic Front, Morbid Angel, Savatage, Type O Negative, Biohazard, Mudvayne, dozens more, and older loudies like King Diamond, Anthrax, Cro-Mags, Misfits, Motorhead..... - like I said: loud. At times I was doing 12 mixes, but mostly eight or less. Did a lot of front of house too.

edit: ah, I see you got the screen name. My tinnitus will never go away... biggrin.gif It was worth it tho. For about 3 years *** Clark knew me by my first name. Priceless. He was every bit the consummate professional, and in every way imaginable. So mellow, philosophical, understated, and even the coffeeboy received direct attention and courtesy. You meet/work with someone like that, and you are always reminded that it's all just a job, and there are more important things in life, and Mr. Clark was right there with that. Humbling.
Mekigal
I was thinking of making a portable stage for your back yard and basement verity bands. Paneled in 4x8 sections . Maybe radius the back and have a detachable back and top that act as a sound projection device for over all sound quality. The top would act as a rain guard if the wind was not blowing to much .
I was thinking about sound drop off at out door venues do to nothing behind you or an obscure perforated structures that deaden sound projection .

I just wonder if baffling the back radius walls in a v shape pattern would be worth the return of time to assemble and deconstruct before and after gigs .

The other point of interest with all the bands in the world and growing << Would there be or is there an emerging market for portable stages of higher quality . I don't think they would have to be that big and could potentially be put in the back of a single pick up truck .
Maybe even rent a stage ?
Just a thought after the band hammered Me on it last night . How to panelize a relatively small stage that is portable .

What you think "cable peoples"
Think small out door venues , Parties, Parks, Weddings , and recreation areas . Corporate venues in the wilds
soundhertz
There are companies out there that have rolling portable stages that open up hydraulically, have a panel box supporting 200 amps for lights (LED technology allows for great light shows @ 75 amps) + 100 amps or so for audio power distribution racks or simple edisons built right in on the back of the stage. You can do scaled down versions, but unless this is for acoustic acts/orchestras or simple duos, you don't want a v-shape: the reflections would be a little weird. In fact I wouldn't v it at all. Concave rear would focus the sound in undesirable ways too. It's best to keep it flat, with cloth or some other surface that doesn't reflect anything above 1k hz at least, and probably lower. Let the speakers take care of the sound. You want the least sound coming off the stage as possible, the least reflections. If you build such a rolling stage, you could certainly rent it out easily enough I imagine; concerts in the park etc. would always be interested in things that roll right in. No issues with leveling a typical stage on grass, having performers at too low of a height for the audience, easy ups/tents not required if you're canopying the stage.

For years I set up a Pumpkin Fest outdoor rig on one of these stages. It was great. It opened out wide enough that we could even store the cable trunks etc right along the back out of the way. Extra mic stands and monitors stored there also for easy set-ups from band to band. Look at what you see on line and duplicate it if you have the materials. Just make sure it's deep enough to allow for performers and their monitors/pedal boards etc to be set up in front of the drums, which take up a lot of depth. Depth of the stage is a wee bit more important than width imo.
Mekigal
QUOTE (soundhertz+Jul 15 2012, 05:00 PM)
There are companies out there that have rolling portable stages that open up hydraulically, have a panel box supporting 200 amps for lights (LED technology allows for great light shows @ 75 amps) + 100 amps or so for audio power distribution racks or simple edisons built right in on the back of the stage.  You can do scaled down versions, but unless this is for acoustic acts/orchestras or simple duos, you don't want a v-shape: the reflections would be a little weird.  In fact I wouldn't v it at all.  Concave rear would focus the sound in undesirable ways too.  It's best to keep it flat, with cloth or some other surface that doesn't reflect anything above 1k hz at least, and probably lower.  Let the speakers take care of the sound.  You want the least sound coming off the stage as possible, the least reflections.  If you build such a rolling stage, you could certainly rent it out easily enough I imagine; concerts in the park etc. would always be interested in things that roll right in.  No issues with leveling a typical stage on grass, having performers at too low of a height for the audience, easy ups/tents not required if you're canopying the stage.

For years I set up a Pumpkin Fest outdoor rig on one of these stages.  It was great.  It opened out wide enough that we could even store the cable trunks etc right along the back out of the way.  Extra mic stands and monitors stored there also for easy set-ups from band to band.  Look at what you see on line and duplicate it if you have the materials.  Just make sure it's deep enough to allow for performers and their monitors/pedal boards etc to be set up in front of the drums, which take up a lot of depth.  Depth of the stage is a wee bit more important than width imo.

Oh you are the one . That was good . I will google competitors and look close at design . I got the skills . Building skills . Good information . Ah yeah renting it out Yeah Man .Good stuff . It was a new thought . We played at a venue up a drainage called the Rattlesnake . It was a venue that John Floridis played year to year . Don't know why hE didn't play it this year. So it was me band Blue Moon instead ( Jazz quartet ) So we were on the ground and had buildings that resembled chicken coupes behind us at a diagonal relationship to our set up . The sound from the musicians reference was soo soo bad . We got good personal monitors too . Little things with there own amp in then.
They attach to a mike stand and you can control them your self right there in-front of you . The sound was washed out right over all our stops and rests . It was bad . It is not the first time the sound was a mess for the players . Tent gig went way south one time and there was sound person doing sound . It was a walk on where they supplied the P.A. and a sound person . It was an elevated stage . The only thing I could hear out of the monitor on that gig was Drums basting double time skip to my lou jump that rope boy. It was like picking cotton with bloodee fingairs. The sound just didn't match what I was stroking. Booty nightmare not to mention the fire dances just about set the front row of the audience on fire. The things that make memories .

You seem to be a great knowledge base . More than that . You are
God send . You are
Mekigal
QUOTE (Physfan+Jul 5 2012, 01:37 AM)

I agree with butthead! Your writing is that of an ignorant, semi-literate. All it does is clearly illustrate low intelligence, so low that you don't (perhaps, can't) understand how bad it really is.
As well, it shows a lack of respect for fellow forum users.


Creator of what? Ignorant, uninformed comment?

Are you a angry person ? Tell Me !
You verbally lash out a lot .
I realize I am not that literate.
Carpentry is what I know and I can play guitar
What do you got ?
What is your contribution to life ?
Not that I think you need to have one .
I am not like that .
I have contributions .
That is my life to contribute if I feel like doing so .

What do you got ?
What is your grand intelligent skill and what do you do with it ?
Do you waste it ?

Or is it just your duty to point out how others have no intellectual skill set ?
Is that your skill . More Power to you then . Keep up the good work !
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