This is probably slightly off-topic, but it HAS reference to the thread, so bear with me - OK? :
It is impossible to put a value on technology that currently does not exist and has been "Proven" to be impossible. (Imagine one caveman saying to another : "What do you think it will cost to develop a means to drag a mate by her hair to my cave without dragging the skin off of her butt?")
Until someone proves that the Speed Of Light (SOL) CAN be exceeded, the ONLY way we are going to get anywhere is at SOL, or slower.
With regards to the above, I PRESUME then that "hyper-drive" is limited to the speed of light. => we are STILL going to be severely time-limited with regards to interstellar transport. Proxima Centauri, our closest neighbor =4.2 light years.
The ONLY viable interstellar transport I see occurring using current technology is as follows :
1. "Snail Mail" a Teleporter to the next star (at SOL).
2. Build a "Teleporter" at that point.
3. Teleport the materials needed to build another "Snail Mail" + Teleporter..
4. "Snail Mail" another Teleporter to the next star.
5. Continue process until we get to where we REALLY want to go.
This process will not have any direct benefit to US, the current generation, but it WILL enable our descendants to "Leap-Frog" to the "beyond" at a fraction of the time that it is going to take US to get there in the first place.
Teleportation technology already exists (at atomic level) => http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,...1874760,00.html
Xeneko, rather ask "What is it going to cost to develop EXISTING technology to get beyond moving atomic particles and onto complex materials (or a human body WITH sentience still intact??!!), as opposed to putting a dollar value on technology that is currently "impossible". OK, NOW the million dollar question :Is Teleportation instantaneous or is it ALSO governed by SOL??
It's theoretically possible to travel great distance measured in the coordinate frame [laboratory frame] in a very short time recorded in the proper frame [rocket frame]. For instance at 1 g constant acceleration for first half of the journey and 1 g constant deceleration for the 2nd half of the journey the rocket could reach Andromeda in 28 years proper rocket time. Time recorded in the coordinate frame would be 2 billion years. A trip to the center of our galaxy would take 20 years proper rocket time and 30,000 years in the coordinate frame. You can just call the coordinate frame our planet. The star you mentioned is the first on the example list.http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Rela.../SR/rocket.html
If you could resolve all the problems associated with such a journey I would want to go to a place we could settle and populate. Imagine returning from Andromeda 4 billion years in our planets future.
One huge problem would be propulsion and everything associated with it. Look at this paper you can access from waitedavid137 website Modern Relativity. David is a member of this forum. http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0106003/
The teleportation thing is beyond me. It would be interesting to brainstorm what might be required to achieve this goal.
17th May 2011 - 06:39 AM
@Boogieman : I guess the bigger problem in teleportation is the rearrangement of the subject being teleported at atomic level. Things wud not be very pretty if we had our nose in place of our mouth once we do possibly reach our destination on being teleported.
On the other hand even if we do counter the problem above, teleportation is only possible by means of what physicists like to term as "worm-holes" i.e. space-time tunnels. If we do get to discover such tunnels in the spce-time continuum then I guess, the journey will definitely be much much faster than SOL theoritically. Practically it might still be lesser than SOL.
I hope this makes sense