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A world-class sprinter accelerates to his maximum speed in 4.2s . He then maintains this speed for the remainder of a 100-m race, finishing with a total time of 9.3s .


What is the runner's average acceleration during the first 4.2 ?

What is his average acceleration during the last 5.1 ?

What is his average acceleration for the entire race?

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An alert hiker sees a boulder fall from the top of a distant cliff and notes that it takes 1.30s for the boulder to fall the last third of the way to the ground. You may ignore air resistance.

What is the height of the cliff in meters?

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A marble is released from one rim of a hemispherical bowl of diameter 55.0cm and rolls down and up to the opposite rim in 10.0s .


Find the average speed.

Find the average velocity of the marble.
bm1957
Let's see your attempts first...
qwe123zxc
An alert hiker sees a boulder fall from the top of a distant cliff and notes that it takes 1.30s for the boulder to fall the last third of the way to the ground. You may ignore air resistance.

What is the height of the cliff in meters?


yf=yi + vi*t + .5*a*t^2

yf=final position
yi=initial position (this will represent the last third of the cliff)
vi=initial velocity (assumed to be 0)
t=time
a=acceleration (gravity, -9.8)

0=yi + 0*1.3 + (-4.6)*1.3^2
yi=7.774m

So the cliff is 3*yi = 23.322m


but its wrong sad.gif
yor_on
It's a 'free fall in Newtonian mechanics' then.
But you would still need to know what height that mountain was situated from the sea level.
As the acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 m/s squared, but that's near the surface of the earth.
bm1957
Your mistake is in assuming that the initial velocity is 0. After it has fallen 2/3 of the way, its velocity will certainly not be 0.

Gravity certainly can be approximated to 9.8ms^2, no problem with that.

I can't see a simple way to approach this problem, so my attempt might seem a bit complicated, but this is what I would do:

CODE
x  = height of cliff
u  = 0 (velocity at top of cliff)
v1 = (velocity at 2/3 down)
a  = g
s1 = 2x/3 (untimed fall)
s2 = x/3 (1.30s fall)
t  = 1.30s


Using these variables, I set up:

CODE
(v1)^2 = (u^2) + 2a(s1), for the first part of the fall (1)
s2 = v1 + 0.5at^2, for the second part of the fall (2)


I re-wrote s1 and s2 in terms of x and made v1 the subject of eq.(1)
I then substituted for v1 in eq.(2) and it looks like I've got a quadratic in x after a bit of re-arranging.

That's a bit convoluted but the only way I can see! Does that approach match the level of teaching you've received so far or do you think the question should have a simpler solution?
qwe123zxc
Cheers mate

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A world-class sprinter accelerates to his maximum speed in 4.2s . He then maintains this speed for the remainder of a 100-m race, finishing with a total time of 9.3s .


What is the runner's average acceleration during the first 4.2 ?

What is his average acceleration during the last 5.1 ?

What is his average acceleration for the entire race?

ok

Aav is v2-v1/time

but in the problem there is no v2

what can i do to solve this problem ?
bm1957
You will need to set up a pair of equations as above. One of them will have v2 as a variable like the equation you showed. The other will have the same v2 as the constant speed required to finish the race in the given time, assuming an unknown constant acceleration for the first 4.2s

You will be able to substitute one equation with v2 as the subject into the other and have a solvable equation.
buttershug
QUOTE (qwe123zxc+Oct 20 2008, 08:24 AM)
What is his average acceleration during the last 5.1 ?

Ohh I think I think I know this one.

What is the average acceleration during the time he maintains a constant speed?

I think it might be zero.
buttershug
QUOTE (qwe123zxc+Oct 20 2008, 08:24 AM)
A world-class sprinter accelerates to his maximum speed in 4.2s . He then maintains this speed for the remainder of a 100-m race, finishing with a total time of 9.3s .


What is the runner's average acceleration during the first 4.2 ?

What is his average acceleration during the last 5.1 ?

What is his average acceleration for the entire race?


This can also be solved if you graph speed on the x axis and time on the y axis.
The area under the graph represents distance. The slope of the curve represents acceleration.
bm1957
QUOTE (buttershug+Oct 28 2008, 11:16 AM)
This can also be solved if you graph speed on the x axis and time on the y axis.
The area under the graph represents distance. The slope of the curve represents acceleration.

You've made a typo, time would have to be on the x-axis (otherwise distance will be the area to the left of the graph and the slope will be 1/a)

Seems like it would be difficult to draw the graph without additional info, but sketch it and leave V(max) as a variable, then write an equation for the area and V(max) pops straight out! (Finding the accelerations is trivial after that). I woulnd't have considered that method myself. smile.gif
buttershug
QUOTE (bm1957+Oct 28 2008, 11:40 AM)
You've made a typo, time would have to be on the x-axis (otherwise distance will be the area to the left of the graph and the slope will be 1/a)

Seems like it would be difficult to draw the graph without additional info, but sketch it and leave V(max) as a variable, then write an equation for the area and V(max) pops straight out! (Finding the accelerations is trivial after that). I woulnd't have considered that method myself. smile.gif

Yes I did.
Time should be on the x axis.
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