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samantha k
We have a lot of work to do......two analogies.I will try with both.
But first I wanted to say that every answer has a part of the solution....
I think that Joshua post is very important and I am agree whith what he sais.
None here was so wrong that must stop posting......
So Is This Like A Game:

electricity : computer :: ___ : human

=spirit-soul-blood-oxigen-water-food-energy-power-rationality-........all that list can be aplied to animals as well


The second one:


Mother : ?? :: ?? : humanity
I liked Enigma answer.So I choose it too.

Samantha
"THEY"
Joshua, I won't get too involved into this either, but here is some info copied off of the internet on both subjects:

Environmental Benefits
Trees alter the environment in which we live by moderating climate, improving air quality, conserving water and harboring wildlife. Climate control is achieved by moderating the effects of sun, wind and rain. Trees intercept water, store some of it, reduce storm run-off and the possibility of flooding. The leaves of trees filter the air we breathe by removing dust and other particulates. Leaves also absorb other air pollutants such as ozone, carbon monoxide and sulfur dioxide, and give off oxygen. By planting trees, we return to a more natural and less artificial environment and natural harmony is restored to the urban environment.

and this is the "ingredients" for a grade school science experiment on water filtration:

Activities and Materials Needed:
1. Two-liter drink bottle
2. Beaker (600 ml. or larger)
3. Beaker (graduated, 250-400 ml.)
4. 600 ml. of play sand
5. 350 ml. of aquarium pebbles
6. 350 ml. of aquarium charcoal (or ground-up pieces of charcoal briquettes)
7. 350 ml. of soil
8. 250 ml. of water (dirty, but preferably pond)
9. 3”x 3” piece of screen material
10. Large cotton ball
11. Rubber band

The filtration model should be arranged so that the bottom 1/3 of the bottle is cut off, a screen be placed over the opening where the cap would normally be and suspended down with a rubber band. Then the following items should be placed in order into the bottle; cotton, sand, pebbles, soil, charcoal, and sand. Then once the filter is assembled, place it over the 600-ml. beaker and begin to pore the pond water into the filter. Explain to the students that as the water passes through the levels of materials, this is what happens to the water that they drink on a daily basis.

I will go into it more if you wish! wink.gif
enigma
I have to agree with Samantha... electricity provides power to the computer (right?) and through food (nutrients would perhaps be a better words) power and energy is "given" to a human... erm... is that worded wrong? er... i think my point comes across nonetheless... wink.gif



QUOTE ("555Joshua"+)
Did he ever tell you that you reminded him of his girlfriend? huh.gif


he mentioned later that he found it weird that we mentioned similar responses to the analogy... haha rolleyes.gif

and I guess another response to your analogy could be

Mother : Child :: Life: Humanity ... Mother educates Child as Life educates Humanity? (though I think I like my first idea more)... unsure.gif
micx
Mother : posterity :: Big-Bang : humanity ?? blink.gif
555Joshua
QUOTE (Ignorance(Isn't)Bliss+)
Mother is to Child, as God is to Humanity

That's a very good answer, just not the one I was thinking of. Should it count? rolleyes.gif If no one can find the answer I am seeking, then yes.

electricity : computer :: ___ : human

Well, it's not blood, otherwise this poor dude has been ignored.

QUOTE (micx+)
blood? rolleyes.gif


QUOTE ("THEY"+)
Joshua, I won't get too involved into this either, but here is some info copied off of the internet on both subjects:

I think it's silly arguing over something this stupid, but I so it all the time. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (same+)
Leaves also absorb other air pollutants such as ozone, carbon monoxide and sulfur dioxide, and give off oxygen.

I'll admit you got me there (I looked up another site). But still, trees don't absorb Nitrogen dioxide, or worse, Nitric oxide (the difference is one oxygen atom in the compound). They also don't remove Chlorine compounds, which are destroying the Ozone layer, which, if I may remind you, is the reason life on land can exist in the first place. Without the Ozone layer, we will all die. There are many pollutants coming from the manufacturing of computer hard drives, and boards of that sort which would kill trees if they were to absorb them. Notice computers are band from junk yard because they leak pollutants. I know trees can't do a damn thing about this, but when these computers are built, the stuff goes into the atmosphere. (I wanted to find a link to this, but I couldn't, so I thought I should tell you that not the same stuff leaks from computer boards, and is emitted from factories.

And as for your ground experiment, notice that they don't use soil in gas masks, they use charcoal. This is because charcoal absorbs many gases intensively, leaving out safe gases like Oxygen. Once the charcoal’s done, there won't be any pollutants for the soil to absorb. And one more thing, the ground isn't made of:
1. Play sand
2. Aquarium pebbles
3. Aquarium charcoal (or ground-up pieces of charcoal briquettes)
4. Soil
5. Piece of screen material
6. Large cotton ball


Water (dirty, but preferably pond)??? That doesn't have any pollutants in it, unless you get it from a pond near a nuclear power plant. There aren't any ponds (that I know of) near factories, and the ones that are contaminated are locked up, or by some other means, forbidden to visit.

All you pointed out is that school filters use soil, not that soil can absorb pollutants. No one uses dirt in their water filters. A more ideal (and effective) way to filter water is to boil it.

Water is known as a solution, that is, certain stuff dissolve within it. These are known as solutes (Carbon compounds aren't solutes, which is good, because we would be eaten alive every time we take a shower). Sugars and salts are solutes, and dissolve in the water. Water is not just full of solutes; actually, the tap water we drink is full of all kinds of crap. 100% water is actually a poor conductor of electricity, but the regular water we drink has enough conductive shit in it (obviously) for the water to carry the electric current when you stick a wet hand into an outlet (I don't know why anyone would do that).

Once the water evaporates, it can no longer carry all this shit, and doesn't. If you have hard water (like me) you will notice white stains on your glass from lime. Boiling the water will make the Calcium-Carbon dioxide compound (can’t think for the life of me what it's called) unstable and it loses a Carbon dioxide molecule, and transforms from a solute, and sinks to the bottom, or the sides.
micx
merely:

mother : matriarchy :: human beeing : humanity

unsure.gif
555Joshua
QUOTE (Enigma+)
Mother : Child :: Life: Humanity ... Mother educates Child as Life educates Humanity? (though I think I like my first idea more)... unsure.gif

No, not the answer I want.

QUOTE (Micx+)
Mother : posterity :: Big-Bang : humanity ?? blink.gif

No.
micx
Mother : Infant :: Africa : Humanity ?

huh.gif
555Joshua
I can see where you're going, but know, not that. biggrin.gif
"THEY"
Electricity : computer :: FOOD : human is correct. I told you it was easy! biggrin.gif

I have no guesses on the humanity one.... I pass!
samantha k
The answer must be somethig relative to the continuity of generations.


The mother giving birth to her son contributes to keep the continuation of the humanity??

Is that?
Sam dry.gif
555Joshua
QUOTE ("THEY"+)
I have no guesses on the humanity one.... I pass!

I know it's too hard; I will give up the answer since few people have an interest in it, and it's hard. But first, I want to tell you why it wasn't Mother : child :: God : humanity.

Mother does create the child, but needs father's help to do so. God doesn't need anyone to do anything. God is independent. Let's assume that there is something that mother can do, without having father's help.

This is also for humanity, there must be something that one thing can influence humanity, as mother can influence what ever. It can't be raising the child, because then the mother would also raise humanity, and that's not right. Thus, mother must have some influence on something, that something can influence humanity in the same way. Now we have gone through everything that can help us on the mother's side, we need to look at humanity. What influences humanity? God (religion), Society, Money, Government. Let's start out with these before we look for more. We know it's not God, and no other religion. Society, what in hell does mother do that society does? That genre is held by the household. Money influences humanity in the form of greed, mommas don't do any such thing, at least the sane ones. Government, government dictates what you can and can't do in their country, this goes for the parents, namely the mother. And you can look at the government/humanity system like you can mother/child. When people are bad, they go to jail, when children are bad, they go to their rooms, or some other sort of punishment, based on the culture.

Indeed, the analogy answer is:

Mother : Child :: Government : Humanity

Now someone else has to come up with an analogy, because all mine suck. biggrin.gif

I won’t be posting very much for a while, have work to do. And if you refer to the work as school work, I will lose all respect for you. I know you will find it easy to live without my crappy since of hummer, my crazy ideas, and my tendency to get into fights.

Ta ta rolleyes.gif
samantha k
There are no more analogies without 555 Joshua


Why he left? sad.gif

Samantha
"THEY"
I am sure he will be back but just not as often as before. He was really good at keeping my daughters thread going too. He will be missed. Would you like me to attempt to come up with another analogy? We can keep this going too!
555Joshua
I hadn't realized I would be missed. People gave me the impression they didn't like me. I guess it wouldn't hurt me too badly if I post here every once in a while, at least every other day. I am trying to write a fiction book. Well, not trying, I seem (seam, laugh.gif ) to be very good at it, so far. We'll see.

I won't be able to post in your thread "THEY", say hi to the kid for me. I know people will be in extreme debt (doubt, laugh.gif ) to her when she develops interstellar travel, and prevents us all from burning into a crisp in the 5 billion years or so when the sun forecloses its loan, and demands earth back. I know this because she is interested in space, and she's a genius. What else to I need to know? biggrin.gif

Sam, I have a crippling conscience, so I can't just leave like that. I will post here every now and then.

I will let "THEY" do the honors with the big analogy, but will give a small one to "ease" the pain of impatience. You all need to know, analogies are easy to make as long as you are creative, I don't really know what it takes to solve them.

Here goes something:

The Earth : Sun :: ?? : cat

Have fun and stay out of trouble. biggrin.gif
samantha k
I am glad you change your mind.I hope you will succeed with your book .

We should all meet for a pizza!! biggrin.gif



Cheers

Samantha

Now we have work to do:

The Earth : Sun :: ?? : cat

mouse??
Draugluin
O.o what genre of fiction is it?

The Earth:Sun ??:Cat
The Earth:Sun World:Cat

The Earth revolves around the Sun.
The World revolves around a Cat?
Heard that they were self-centred
555Joshua
I didn't log off. blink.gif I was in a hurry.

QUOTE (Samantha K+)
The Earth : Sun :: ?? : cat

mouse??

You have it backwards, the cat is the big one. On the other hand, I don't know your reasoning. Just remember that the sun is the big one in this analogy--the relationship.

QUOTE (Draugluin+)
O.o what genre of fiction is it?

I have no idea; it doesn't seem to fit one. It's about a drunk guy. Actually, it's about this guy whose father was a mean alcoholic, and he is doomed to travel the same road as his father. That's long story short.

QUOTE (same+)
The Earth:Sun World:Cat

No.

I only made this analogy to keep you guys busy until "THEY" came up with one, so I will give you a big hint. At least I think it's a big hint.

What was the relationship in my previous analogy?
If this doesn't help you I'll come up with a better hint.
"THEY"
QUOTE (555Joshua+Aug 30 2005, 05:45 PM)
What was the relationship in my previous analogy?
If this doesn't help you I'll come up with a better hint.

The Earth : Sun :: GOVERNMENT : cat? Nah! tongue.gif Although I was thinking on the same lines as Samantha. I had also thought of mouse, but didn't post it. Small large small large... So what governs in earth/sun? Hmmm heat, energy = life but the cat doesn't provide heat energy nor life. Unless it is the warmth in your lap? dry.gif I am totally clueless.... Earth orbits the sun, but what "orbits' a cat? grr. Got me again!

Joshua, go check out yquantum c as a constant, they 2 posted a TOE of her own for fun. I had her post in his thread so he would see it when he comes back again (per his instructions). A little glimpse into her personality! Also, if you ever need someone to proof read your book, well, They 2 and I are both really good at catching typos, hint hint! Good luck, I have always wanted to write a book, but I don't have enough free time. My sister has done it and actually had the book published, she says it is very enjoyable to write. But its not the career for a mother... So be glad you have the time and flexibility in your life to do this! Good luck again!
555Joshua
I'm the one who had it backwards! Sorry Sam, my brain's on stirke.

It's not small large, because birds are small, and cats eat birds. And besides, I am much too creative to come up with something that pothetic. It has nothing to do with "orbiting", whether literal or hypotheticle.

I really thought this analogy would be easy. But since it isn't (obviously), I will give you a real hint. Again, sorry Sam. unsure.gif

The relationship between the earth and the sun is not big/small, but superior/inferior, or dominent/not dominent, what ever the hell that is. But it's more in the direction of my previous analogy, and it's not government. You would have been closer if you guessed the other blank to the analogy. The sun has contral over the earth, but must be respocible, and take care of it.

That's all the hints you're getting out of me for a while.

QUOTE ("THEY"+)
Joshua, go check out yquantum c as a constant, they 2 posted a TOE of her own for fun.

She sure did. You are not going to to get very many collages excited about her if she stays that way. I don't know. I didn't even have since of humor when I was her age. I didn't even know how to write in cursive. Hell, I didn't even know how to write! Most of everything I have learned thus far, I learned in the past three years. (I did know how to read when I was here age).

QUOTE (same+)
Also, if you ever need someone to proof read your book, well, They 2 and I are both really good at catching typos, hint hint!

I don't know if that's really a good idea. Actually, you can let her read what ever she wants for all I care (she's not my kid), but it ain't exactly Harry Potter. Actually, it's far from it!

QUOTE (same+)
So be glad you have the time and flexibility in your life to do this! Good luck again!

But I don't. I can only write three pages a day or so, and I have to make room.


Ta ta cool.gif
smoix
Earth:Sun::Flea:Cat
cobalt_frog
QUOTE (555Joshua+Aug 30 2005, 05:45 PM)
I didn't log off. blink.gif I was in a hurry.

QUOTE (Samantha K+)
The Earth : Sun :: ?? : cat

mouse??

You have it backwards, the cat is the big one. On the other hand, I don't know your reasoning. Just remember that the sun is the big one in this analogy--the relationship.

QUOTE (Draugluin+)
O.o what genre of fiction is it?

I have no idea; it doesn't seem to fit one. It's about a drunk guy. Actually, it's about this guy whose father was a mean alcoholic, and he is doomed to travel the same road as his father. That's long story short.

QUOTE (same+)
The Earth:Sun World:Cat

No.

I only made this analogy to keep you guys busy until "THEY" came up with one, so I will give you a big hint. At least I think it's a big hint.

What was the relationship in my previous analogy?
If this doesn't help you I'll come up with a better hint.

Earth : Sun :: ?? : cat

what DEFINES the relationship between earth and sun? not size, nor temperature, though very different. more relevant: radiation (earth:sun::ears:cat). i often drape cats over my noggin to keep warm.

or maybe not. what about attraction ... gravitational, strictly speaking, but let's be more open minded. earth:sun::fea:cat, as smoix has it. and behold: a cat is also WARMER and BIGGER, so this is a home run.

anyway, what comes next:

1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
???????
ametcalf
dry.gif Is it 322111?
Guest
wacko.gif No it's not, nevermind wacko.gif
cobalt_frog
QUOTE (ametcalf+Aug 31 2005, 03:42 PM)
dry.gif Is it 322111?

no, it is not. i will give you a hint ... start looking at the last digits first
SkiSTX
I have no patience! smile.gif I had to look the answer up after 20 minutes of trying every different mathematical combination I could. That's too bad though - it would have been fun to figure it out on my own.
Guest_555Joshua
I thought I would make one more reply before heading off for today.

The cat has no responsibility what so ever to take care of the flea. No, it is not flea. Man I love being on this side of the analogy. biggrin.gif

My guess is:

3222111
micx
1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
???????

very easy : 13112221 biggrin.gif


(one 3, one 1, two 2 and two 1 in the previous line)

----------------

the earth:sun::??:cat

not very easy unsure.gif

"wool ball" ????
"THEY"
Question Cobalt Frog, you have 7 "?" on the last line, does the answer have seven digits? Darn, I think micx got it. But that doesn't follow your tip... ?
cobalt_frog
QUOTE ("THEY"+Aug 31 2005, 06:29 PM)
Question Cobalt Frog, you have 7 "?" on the last line, does the answer have seven digits? Darn, I think micx got it. But that doesn't follow your tip... ?

indeed - micx got it. my hint was that the last digit is always 1, the second to last alternates 1-2, which leads in the direction of "one 1" and "two ones". in any event, that was how i figured this riddle out.

i am confused by guest_555joshua's response. responsibility? in what way does the sun have responsibility for earth? the most lofty description of our relationship may be that the sun "tolerates" earth (like a cat tolerates fleas) ... the sun certainly won't be inconvenienced if earth suddenly ceases to exist.

so while i am still pondering that answer, what about this one: you are a flea in a land of compulsive truth tellers and liars, and you are looking for a cat. you come to a Y in the road and a solitary figure who sits in its middle. you have one question to ask to find out which way leads to the cat, but you don't know whether you are speaking with a truth teller or a liar. what will you ask?
"THEY"
Darn, and I was so close. I still don't understand your tip, but your explanation of how you got to the answer is exactly how I was seeing the answer too. Just not quick on the draw....

My answer: So which way should a person who DESPISES the sight of animals (and maybe throw in especially cats) and does not want to see any animals on my path go?
cobalt_frog
QUOTE ("THEY"+Aug 31 2005, 08:39 PM)
"So which way should a person who DESPISES the sight of animals (and maybe throw in especially cats) and does not want to see any animals on my path go?"

to this a liar would point in a direction opposite of what a truth teller would indicate. since we don't know whether we are talking to a truth teller or a liar, the flea has a 50/50 chance of going catless.
"THEY"
Sorry, didn't read the questino...... was thinking they all lied.

How about asking the solitary figure if they are the only person sitting in the middle of the road on that spot?
SkiSTX
I think you would ask "Which path would a person of the opposite persuasion as you tell me the Cat is down?"

Say the cat is to the right. The Truthteller would tell me that a Liar would say the cat is to the Left. A Liar would tell me that a Truthteller would say the cat is to the Left. So you do the opposite of what the answer is to find the Cat.

Oddly enough, I know this because of the movie Labyrinth that features David Bowie as the antagonist. It features a scene like this.
cobalt_frog
good answer. the one i came up with was this question: "If i asked you which way the cat is, what would you tell me?"

it's the same idea in that the truth teller would tell the truth, and the liar would have to lie twice and therefore negate his lie.

ok, enough waiting for the earth:sun::___:cat riddle. come one 555j!
SkiSTX
How about...

Break it and it is better, immediately set, and harder to break again.

What is it?
SkiSTX
QUOTE (cobalt_frog+Aug 31 2005, 09:26 PM)
"If i asked you which way the cat is, what would you tell me?"

That's a good one!
"THEY"
QUOTE (cobalt_frog+Aug 31 2005, 09:26 PM)
"If i asked you which way the cat is, what would you tell me?"

? how does that determine if they are lying or telling the truth?
cobalt_frog
QUOTE (SkiSTX+Aug 31 2005, 09:28 PM)
How about...

Break it and it is better, immediately set, and harder to break again.

What is it?

the law?

response to "they" i am not interested in whether it's a liar or a truth teller. i am interested in the direction to the cat.
555Joshua
"If I asked you the directon of the cat, what would you tell me?" (The cat is on the left prong of the fork in the road).

The liar: "I would say to the left." This man always lies, if he is asked where the cat is, he would say the right. If he says he would say the right, he would be telling the truth. So he says left, which is where the cat is.

The honest: "I would say the left." This man is always honest, if he is asked where the cat is, he would say the left. Which is where the cat is.

Back to the analogy.

The sun has a responsibility to keep the earth from flying into deep space, and to keep it warm. In short, the sun has a responibility to take care of its child. Now, this responsibility is merely hypothetical, but it's there. This does not say that the cat's responsibility is hypothetical. I could have left that part out, and made the analogy even harder. biggrin.gif

I was guest__555Joshua. It's not fleas, the answer anyway.
SkiSTX
Well, Josh wants to get back to the analogy (which I have no idea about... although I don't think any of these analogies have ONLY one correct answer), so I will answer the riddle I posed above. cobalt_frog, you were on the right track/mindset... the answer is a Record.
555Joshua
I am very sorry I made you give up the answer. I only meant the I was going to further explain my hint. I did not mean I wanted everyone to quit giving out puzzles, which is the opposite of how I feel. Keep bringing them. biggrin.gif
555Joshua
"THEY",
Is the kid going to be posting now, or is it just a two time thing?
555Joshua
All right, I'll give up the answer. The sun keeps the earth warm, while bombarding it with cosmic turbulence. What does the cat keep warm, while bombarding it with some sort of shit? Nothing orbits the cat, the cat emits no heat of any kind, other than body warmth (and that's not enough to keep anyone alive). On the other hand, the sun doesn't hunt, the sun doesn't groom, and it doesn't take naps on your lap. Good thing too, OUCH! The relationship is clearly hypothetical. The sun warms the earth, keeps it from floating off into deep space. Without the sun, there would be no life. The sun is nurturing. The sun nurtures the earth. What does the cat nurture? Its own offspring.

Yes, the answer is: Earth : Sun :: Kitten : Cat

Notice, that like my precious analogy, this relationship is mother infant.
SkiSTX
The following facts can make an accurate statement. Can you figure it out?

11 is a race horse
12 is 12
1111 race
12112
"THEY"
QUOTE (SkiSTX+Sep 2 2005, 04:46 PM)
The following facts can make an accurate statement. Can you figure it out?

11 is a race horse
12 is 12
1111 race
12112

That is simple! Here is my mom's favorite:

cm snakes? mr not snakes. sar! cmedbd eyes? lib, I cmedbd eyes, sar snakes!

Joshua, I figured out the analogy but I was hoping Samantha would come back... Now that I know where she lives it bugs me when she vanishes..... Its the mother in me! sad.gif

If anyone needs translation on the above puzzle (or what ever you call it) you will havve to wait for a week and a half for me to answer. And here is an analogy to hold whom ever over until I return. Ok that is mean, you won't get an answer until Sept 12, but here goes!

asteroid : earth :: Mt St Helens : _____
555Joshua
QUOTE (SkiSTX+)
11 is a race horse
12 is 12
1111 race
12112

blink.gif blink.gif

QUOTE ("THEY"+)
cm snakes? mr not snakes. sar! cmedbd eyes? lib, I cmedbd eyes, sar snakes!

I'll wait for the answer before I try to figure that puzzle. And even then I might get it wrong. unsure.gif

Friday, I started a topic about sex, and I guess people started posting. The Admins' must have deleted it. I want to know what the hell was going on in it.
555Joshua
I'm thinking all the letters have been replaced with different letters. This being said, I think the I is actually a. don't know what the a's are.

As for the analogy, I'm thinking:

Asteroid : Earth :: Mt St Helens : Washington State
Hidden_Tiger
QUOTE (SkiSTX+Sep 2 2005, 04:46 PM)
The following facts can make an accurate statement. Can you figure it out?

11 is a race horse
12 is 12
1111 race
12112

Haha I like it:

One horse is named eleven, the other is named twelve.

Eleven is a race horse,
Twelve is one too
Eleven won one race
Twelve won one too

The horses could also be called "one-one" and "one-two" but that seems even more farfetched than eleven and twelve tongue.gif
"THEY"
QUOTE (555Joshua+Sep 13 2005, 05:13 PM)
I'm thinking all the letters have been replaced with different letters. This being said, I think the I is actually a. don't know what the a's are.

As for the analogy, I'm thinking:

Asteroid : Earth :: Mt St Helens : Washington State

Joshua, Hidden Tiger has the numbers one right. You have to replace the numbers with words, and that is the same with my mother's riddle. No replacing letters at all, just turn most of them into words. If you can't get it, I will email it to you.

And the analogy, no it isn't Washington. I picked words that could have a couple answers, and I knew that one would be the first guess because it is easier. The hint that I meant to leave before I vanished, was that this is where I went on vacation. And yes, I left Washington state for my vacation.
SkiSTX
Hidden_Tiger got my riddle. I posted this one because it was the same principle as this riddle...

QUOTE
what comes next:

1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
?


They are both more word puzzles than they are number related.


Also, going back a ways to this post, Josh asks...

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
what comes next:

1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
?


They are both more word puzzles than they are number related.


Also, going back a ways to this post, Josh asks...

I'm not going to give you guys an analogy, for the time being. Instead, try out this logic problem:

Imagine you have two balls of different size--one is half the size of the other. If you roll them down an angled path, which one reaches the ground first? Provided you understand that the smaller object is pulled just as fast as the larger, however, the larger one is bigger around.

The more you think about this one, the harder it becomes.


Shortly after this question was posed (and I rang in with the incorrect answer) I decided that I could not live a fulfilled life without knowing the answer. So I did a small experiment. I'm not going to claim that it was the most scientifically based experiment as didn't have a control group etc. but I think it sufices.

I took a tempered glass table top about 4-5 ft long (very smooth, very hard = little friction) and two granite (or marble) polished spheres (looked pretty perfectly round and smooth to me, again hard and smooth = little friction). One sphere was about an inch in dia. and the other was about 2 and a half. I laid the glass down on a flat surface and proped up one end with a very thick college physics book (ohh, the irony) to create a gentle incline. I placed the spheres at the top and let go as simultaniously as possible.

The result after several attempts to be sure.... they got to the end at EXACTLY the same time.

I am not to sure anyone really cares about the outcome of my experiment, but I thought it was pretty fun and exciting.... i need a life.


One more thing to cram in this post, Josh, try figuring out THEY's riddle outloud... and maybe with a slight hillbilly accent. It is a pretty fun one to do.


And for THEY's analogy...
I have no idea, Hawaii maybe?
"THEY"
SkiSTX, you have the right idea, but no I didn't go to Hawaii. Maybe I will have to go there next time, haven't been there in years!
555Joshua
Asteriod destroyed all life on earth, Mt St Helen destroyed all life on...Mt St Helen? Mt St Helen National park? Nah, it has nothing to do with Hawaii I'm going to say...(very long pause)...Alaska???

I was starting to get the same Idea with the balls. But, I can't see how the balls would roll down the thing at the same speed when one is one and a half times larger. And no, you don't need a life. I would have done the same thing, but I had nothing smooth enough, nor round enough to work.

And as for that "riddle", if only a select few of those "words" need to be switched to get the answer, I'm out! rolleyes.gif
"THEY"
No, it isn't Alaska, but Alaska very well could be my next vacation! And destruction isn't the comparison used in the analogy, it is size. That was your hint.

555Joshua
An astoroid is smaller than earth, and Mt Sainty is smaller than...a lot of things, but an astoriod is a space body, so is earth. Mt St Helens is a mountain, duh. Everast? Everust? Everest?
SkiSTX
Hmmm.... Yellowstone? It's potential explosive capability supposedly dwarfs Mt. St. Hellen's. (That's my 'size' comparison... somehow, I don't think THEY went to Everest for a week biggrin.gif )
555Joshua
Well, you have a point their. On the other hand, we have to remember that her analogies are somewhat knowledge based. dry.gif

Let's see, it isn't destructive power and it's not Everest. I don't think it's Yellow Stone because Yellow Stone isn't a mountain. Hmm, the only states that have volcanos are Washington and Alaska (maybe Oregan).
"THEY"
ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Yes SkiSTX, it is Yellowstone. The potential damage from Yellowstone errupting would make Mt St Helens looks like a baby that spit up. And Joshua, Yellowstone probably used to be considered a mountain, but it lost its top. Most of the park that you drive around is actually inside the volcanic caldera (which is obviously still geogically active). It is definitely in the mountains, I believe the highest elevation we were at was 7700 ft., almost as high as Mt St Helens is. Also, for the history books, Mt St Helens didn't affect me at all. We had to wash our cars alot due to the very light dusting we received. But it sounds like the Yellowstone caldera errupting would probably kill me. And maybe you too, where ever you live in the US. Nice knowin y'all! wink.gif
Guest
smelly; crusty; hardheaded; wooden legged, soylent green, no, no, ah, oh!,
earth
555Joshua
Blast, I was so lost with that one. I do know that Yellow Stone has the world's largest geyser--Old Faithful (it's called that because it never cheats).

Now to keep the analogies coming:

Water :Fish :: ?? : Animal

And here's another puzzle:

Ts twygid bope swm kpui fioxmyb. Wx ygi xygid goxe, bgi bosb o kwy xc ygpxab. Ew swm kpui fioxmyb? Rgs xwy?


Have fun!
chiklu
Fish lives in water ( Water sustains Fish ) Then Earth/Oxygen sustains Animal??
Beany
Animals live on earth
buirseach
My eyes are literally bigger than my belly.
what am I?
Draugluin
QUOTE ("THEY"+Sep 21 2005, 03:46 AM)
ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Yes SkiSTX, it is Yellowstone. The potential damage from Yellowstone errupting would make Mt St Helens looks like a baby that spit up. And Joshua, Yellowstone probably used to be considered a mountain, but it lost its top. Most of the park that you drive around is actually inside the volcanic caldera (which is obviously still geogically active). It is definitely in the mountains, I believe the highest elevation we were at was 7700 ft., almost as high as Mt St Helens is. Also, for the history books, Mt St Helens didn't affect me at all. We had to wash our cars alot due to the very light dusting we received. But it sounds like the Yellowstone caldera errupting would probably kill me. And maybe you too, where ever you live in the US. Nice knowin y'all! wink.gif

I thought there was supposed to be a super large gigantuan volcano under Yellowstone? Then the eruption, when and if it comes, would not be the usual letting off pressure (and stuff) from a crater. It supposedly would literelly lift up the entire piece of land, at the same time obliterating all trace of life for... wuite a long distance, and huge disturbances around the globe will be seen. So basically its not Yellowstone erupting, but a volcano under it? Right? blink.gif ph34r.gif
555Joshua
That one was way too easy. I'm going to come up with another analogy after you colve my puzzle.

First, I think it would be much, much easier if you knew how to solve it. Every letter in it is replaced by another letter of the alphabet. These letters are coherent throughout. For example:

How do you do? would be:

Vit ai xiq ai?

These things are so much fun. biggrin.gif
SkiSTX
The small words from Josh's cryptograph are,

o
wx ew xc ts
swm ygi bgi kwy
bope kpui goxe bosb

Therefore,

o must either be a or i
either w or x is a vowel but not both
if w is a vowel then c must be a vowel
if x is a vowel then c must be a consonate
either t or s is a vowel but not both


Most frequent two-letter words:
of, to, in, it, is, be, as, at, so, we, he, by, or, on, do, if, me, my, up, an, go, no, us, am...

Most frequent three-letter words:
the, and, for, are, but, not, you, all, any, can, had, her, was, one, our, out, day, get, has, him, his, how, man, new, now, old, see, two, way, who, boy, did, its, let, put, say, she, too, use...

Most frequent four-letter words:
that, with, have, this, will, your, from, they, know, want, been, good, much, some, time, very, when, come, here, just, like, long, make, many, more, only, over, such, take, than, them, well, were...


I can't figure it out... yet. Does this help anyone else?

By the way Josh, this is not how THEY's puzzle about snakes works.

Draugluin, I am not sure the exact mechanics, but yellowstone, like hawaii is a volcanic 'hot spot' meaning that the fuel/energy/heat comes from the earth's core directly rather than from the melting of continental plates as they subduct under each other (neither yellowstone now hawaii are on fault lines). You can think of the analogy of boiling macaroni in a pot of water. The spot that has the most heat/flame under it will turn into a convection current and the contents of the boiling pot will come shooting up from the bottom at that spot towards the surface. So there is not really a 'volcano' under yellowstone, but rather a lots of geologic heat and pressure. However YS is fundamentally different that Hawaii because of the type of rock they form in. Oceanic plates are very thin and are made of Basalt, while continental plates are much thicker and bulkier and are made of Andesite. Basalt has the property of not being very strong and letting magma break through it easily. Andesite, on the other hand has the property of acting like a cork and holding back as much pressure as possible until it just can't hold it any longer, at which point it literally explodes. And since The middle of the continental plate is so thick, this means that gimormous amounts of pressure could build up at the hotspot under YS until if finally just gave way and exploded. This contrasts to the thin basalt layer under Hawaii where the lava just oozes out of the volcanos there without any explosions.
"THEY"
QUOTE (555Joshua+Sep 22 2005, 06:10 PM)
How do you do? would be:

Vit ai xiq ai?

Is this a hint? I mean, are these letters the same replacement as your puzzle?
Rogue
[FONT=Arial] Going back to the original analogy from Joshua, (tree:wood:: old man: ??)I wanted to point out that wisdom does not necessarily make the old man (or old woman). I think that "experience" is a better answer as we all probably know some older folk who have the sense of a fence post. (Some younger folks too!)

Btw, Joshua are you aware that 5 is the number of the Goddess?

Regards!
555Joshua
Because of complexity, I'll start from the bottom up.

QUOTE (Rogue+)
Going back to the original analogy from Joshua, (tree:wood:: old man: ??)I wanted to point out that wisdom does not necessarily make the old man (or old woman). I think that "experience" is a better answer as we all probably know some older folk who have the sense of a fence post. (Some younger folks too!)

It doesn't make the old man. It's just something the old man is supposed to have. (I know an old guy, and he's just plan dumb as a rock).

QUOTE
Btw, Joshua are you aware that 5 is the number of the Goddess?

No, I have three 5's, which means I'm going to have three Goddesses. biggrin.gif That's how I'm going to look at it. dry.gif I do know 666 is the number of the devil, so I didn't want that.

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
Btw, Joshua are you aware that 5 is the number of the Goddess?

No, I have three 5's, which means I'm going to have three Goddesses. biggrin.gif That's how I'm going to look at it. dry.gif I do know 666 is the number of the devil, so I didn't want that.

Is this a hint? I mean, are these letters the same replacement as your puzzle?

No, they aren't. I thought it would be easy enough to solve without a hint. I find Cryptograms very easy.

Okay, the single letter word is lower case o, which means it's not o or I, and it's not likely to mean t, which is rarely used. this means it must be a, or we'll say it is for the time being. This sheds a little light on the puzzle:

a a a a a
Ts twygid bope swm kpui fioxmyb. Wx ygi xygid goxe, bgi bosb o kwy xc ygpxab.
a
Ew swm kpui fioxmyb? Rgs xwy?

A lot of these words--except for a--could be anything, so we need to do more. If I do any more, I will ruin the puzzle. Just focus on the "yg" letter pare.

Um, SkiSTX,
Yellow Stone national is above a hot spot. In fact, it has about five miles of crust separating it from the magma, which might be why it's so hot.
555Joshua
Damn HTML. All the a's are supposed to be above all the o's.
Rogue
Quote from Joshua:
It doesn't make the old man. It's just something the old man is supposed to have. (I know an old guy, and he's just plan dumb as a rock).

My point exactly! The old man doesn't necessarily have wisdom, but he very necessarily has experience from life. Therefore, Experience is a better fit in your analogy.

I rest my case. biggrin.gif

Regards!
555Joshua
But an old man could have sat in a cage all his life, and won't know squat. Experience depends on condition and situation, wisdom does not.

I see that no one wants to solve my puzzle. These things are so easy if you don't let them get to you.

Ts twygid bope swm kpui fioxmyb. Wx ygi wygid goxe, bgi bosb o kwy wc ygpxab.
Ew swm kpui fioxmyb? Rgs xwy? (I just noticed, x is supposed to be w).

We already know that all the o's are a's. What next? Let's work on the letter pares: yg. The common letter pares of the English language are: wr, wh, th, sh, gh, qu, ph and ea. We already know it's not the last one. Sh, wh and th are the only pares which start a three letter word, which means g is h. Thus we have:

Ts twyhid bape swm kpui fiaxmyb. Wx yhi oyhid haxe, bhi basb a kwy wc yhpxab.
Ew swm kpui fiaxmyb? Rhs xwy?

A three letter word with h in the middle is either she, the, why or who. And since both ygi and bgi have an h in the middle and have an i at the end, we know that they are either she or the, and that i is e. Thus, Ts twyhid bape swm kpui fiaxmyb. Wx yhi wyhid haxe, bhi basb a kwy wc yhpxab.
Ew swm kpui fiaxmyb? Rhs xwy? becomes:

Ts twyhed bape swm kpue feaxmyb. Wx yhe wyhed haxe, bhe basb a kwy wc yhpxab.
Ew swm kpue feaxmyb? Rhs xwy?

Now, wx and xc have the same letter, only on opposite sides. This occurs in as, is, so, on, of, do, to and so. W is either s or o. if it's s, then what was in front of s--w--is a. This is not so. But what is x? Because there is not such word as fo, it must be n. Thus, w is o. Now we have:

Ts toyhed bape som kpue feanmyb. On yhe oyhed hane, bhe basb a koy oc yhpnab.
Ew som kpue feanmyb? Rhs noy?

I made a mistake when I introduced my puzzle, I just found out, and don't won't to delete what I've been writing. But I will not continue solving the puzzle.
SkiSTX
Wc lwqdbi p kpui ygit! Ibfilpokks ygi bokyie upxe ygoy lwti px ygi bgikk. Nqy gwr ygi gilu ewib swqd twt uxwr pc p kpui fioxqyb? Pb bgi bfspxa wx ti?
555Joshua
This looks interesting.

It's not in my code, is it?

Well, for one thing, ygit, I think, is then, ygi is the, and p is a (I think). Pb, pc and px are either at an or as. I'm going to take a wild guess and say twt is did. Wc is either in, is, or it (a lot of help). Of course, if twt is "did", then ti is "de". It's not. Bgi is she, and that means pb is as. My gut says wc is in, which would make pc an.

I can't print this thing, but I'll come back and try to solve it.
SkiSTX
Josh... you are trying too hard. You guessed correctly, this IS in your code, and is simply a retort to your original message tongue.gif
SkiSTX
Except that, now that I look at it, I messed up a few letters in the encoding... Doh! It should be...


Wc lwmdbi p kpui ygit! Ibfilpokks ygi bokyie upxe ygoy lwti px ygi bgikk. Nmy gwr ygi gilu ewib swmd twt uxwr pc p kpui fioxmyb? Pb bgi bfspxa wx ti?


Sorry about that! wink.gif
555Joshua
That's okay, I messed up too (even though I was careful).

You are very slick. biggrin.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

"Of course i like them! Especially the salted kind that come in the shell. But how the heck does your mom know if i like peanuts? Is she spying on me?"

I like those kind too. biggrin.gif
chiklu
My mother saod you love peanuts.
on the other hand
she says a lot of thanks.
Do you love peanuts? Why not??

All though the above does not give a correct meaning. It seems something wrong in the original code?? Or Am i wrong??

Did not sleep the whole night trying to clear this.But after looking to up your clues, i could do it. This was a good one( although i was forced to look up your clues).

Throw some more like these. This is faar more better than the analogy types..really tickles the brain.

Try the below one...

1
1 1
2 1
1 2 1 1
1 1 1 2 2 1

What's the next line?
555Joshua
Is it: 111122111?

Here's another:

J mdbc d edk. J mdbc d lcat pos edk. Mc oq pos dzi ydk. J du dyadof mc’vv cdk uc. Ut soavyaoczf oq dyadof ny mou knn.
Chiklu
No...

This question was asked in a recruitment test held by Google,meant for freshers who have just passed out of college.

I am sure, tonight gonna be pulling my hair from my head.

I shall get back.
SkiSTX
Josh, I do believe your encoding is messed up. Shouldn't it be...

O mdbc d edk. O mdbc d lcat pos edk. Mc oq pos dzf ydk. J du dyadof mc’vv cdk uc. Ut soavyaoczf oq dyadof ny mou knn.

??? unsure.gif

BTW, I don't think that is possible, at least I hope not.
chiklu
Josh,

I have a cat.

I have a very big Cat.

He is big and fat.

I am afraid he'll eat me.

my girlfriend is afraid of him too.

Did i get this right?? A good one. Throw some more.



555Joshua
chiklu,

You got it right. biggrin.gif

Here's another one:

Tysq yg tymq b jnz ns dkndntbxqg, vqbk eywkx. Tysq yg lneq tymq bh noxknogq—hn lbxxqe ckbx vno an, gkyx kbiiqhg.

I am out of solutions for your puzzle. unsure.gif
555Joshua
SkiSTX,
You are very right. Only, oq should be jq. tongue.gif I will try to look out for any of these in the next one.
SkiSTX
Josh shouldn't be the only one to make these up. Try this one...

Bj rky lq vwbsr bhggwj. Ts lq w ztkzkpwfs pwc wvr lq xsgj cly. Oskops bkxs khf ke fts dwj dtsv ds dwpu rkdv fts qfgssf. Chf ts gswppj plusq oskops wvr ihqf dwvfq fk ylxs ftsb w ulqq wvr cs osffsr. Ts lq w cly fsrrjcswg.
555Joshua
Okay, I think I have a puzzle to lighten the mood. In either South or North America, what country has only four letters in its name? And, to make this fun, I am excluding Peru.
"THEY"
Thats not hard! Here is a physics joke I received today...

SCIENTISTS DISCOVER NEW ELEMENT
>
>
>
>
> Associated Press September 01, 2005
>
>
> A major research institution has just announced the
> discovery of the heaviest element yet known to
> science. The new element has been named
> "Governmentium".
>
>
> Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons,
> 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons,
> giving it an atomic mass of 311.
>
>
> These 311 particles are held together by forces called
> morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of
> lepton-like particles called peons.
>
>
> Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert.
>
>
> However, it can be detected, as it impedes every
> reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute
> amount of Governmentium causes one reaction to take
> over 4 days to complete, when it would normally take
> less than a second.
>
>
> Governmentium has a normal half-life of 4 years; it
> does not decay, but, instead undergoes a
> reorganization in which a portion of the assistant
> neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
>
>
> In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase
> over time, since each reorganization will cause more
> morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
>
>
> This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some
> scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed
> whenever morons reach a certain quantity in
> concentration.
>
>
> This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "Critical
> Morass". When catalyzed with money Governmentium
> becomes Administratium, an element which radiates just
> as much energy, since it has 1/2 as many peons but
> twice as many morons.
Simon sez
Answer: Canada


C, A, N, D = 4 letters
555Joshua
QUOTE ("THEY"+)
Thats not hard! Here is a physics joke I received today...

Huh?

And as for this:

QUOTE
SCIENTISTS DISCOVER NEW ELEMENT
>
>
>
>
> Associated Press September 01, 2005
>
>
> A major research institution has just announced the
> discovery of the heaviest element yet known to
> science. The new element has been named
> "Governmentium".
>
>
> Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons,
> 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons,
> giving it an atomic mass of 311.
>
>
> These 311 particles are held together by forces called
> morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of
> lepton-like particles called peons.
>
>
> Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert.
>
>
> However, it can be detected, as it impedes every
> reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute
> amount of Governmentium causes one reaction to take
> over 4 days to complete, when it would normally take
> less than a second.
>
>
> Governmentium has a normal half-life of 4 years; it
> does not decay, but, instead undergoes a
> reorganization in which a portion of the assistant
> neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
>
>
> In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase
> over time, since each reorganization will cause more
> morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
>
>
> This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some
> scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed
> whenever morons reach a certain quantity in
> concentration.
>
>
> This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "Critical
> Morass". When catalyzed with money Governmentium
> becomes Administratium, an element which radiates just
> as much energy, since it has 1/2 as many peons but
> twice as many morons.

Huh?
I'm laughing, but not because of the joke. I WORK IN THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




















































































(Not really).
Whoever sent you that joke should die.

">Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons,
> 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons,
> giving it an atomic mass of 311."

Should be:
Governmentium has one neutron--just for show--12 assistant neutrons, 75 assistant assistant neutrons and 224 neutrons which were thrown in there for the hell of it--giving it an atomic mass of 311.

If we want to get serious, I should point out that the half-life of an element is shorter the heavier it is.

It was good with adding the morons. There are a LOT of morons in "Governmentium".

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
SCIENTISTS DISCOVER NEW ELEMENT
>
>
>
>
> Associated Press September 01, 2005
>
>
> A major research institution has just announced the
> discovery of the heaviest element yet known to
> science. The new element has been named
> "Governmentium".
>
>
> Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons,
> 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons,
> giving it an atomic mass of 311.
>
>
> These 311 particles are held together by forces called
> morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of
> lepton-like particles called peons.
>
>
> Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert.
>
>
> However, it can be detected, as it impedes every
> reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute
> amount of Governmentium causes one reaction to take
> over 4 days to complete, when it would normally take
> less than a second.
>
>
> Governmentium has a normal half-life of 4 years; it
> does not decay, but, instead undergoes a
> reorganization in which a portion of the assistant
> neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
>
>
> In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase
> over time, since each reorganization will cause more
> morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
>
>
> This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some
> scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed
> whenever morons reach a certain quantity in
> concentration.
>
>
> This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "Critical
> Morass". When catalyzed with money Governmentium
> becomes Administratium, an element which radiates just
> as much energy, since it has 1/2 as many peons but
> twice as many morons.

Huh?
I'm laughing, but not because of the joke. I WORK IN THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




















































































(Not really).
Whoever sent you that joke should die.

">Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons,
> 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons,
> giving it an atomic mass of 311."

Should be:
Governmentium has one neutron--just for show--12 assistant neutrons, 75 assistant assistant neutrons and 224 neutrons which were thrown in there for the hell of it--giving it an atomic mass of 311.

If we want to get serious, I should point out that the half-life of an element is shorter the heavier it is.

It was good with adding the morons. There are a LOT of morons in "Governmentium".

Answer: Canada

Yep. Didn't take long.
I think "THEY" might have said something about it. I don't know.

I noticed this topic is getting lame.
micha
QUOTE (Ignorance(Isn't)Bliss+Jul 15 2005, 10:59 PM)
The tree... gets "wood".....
whereas the old man..... cannot....  laugh.gif

damn deep thinker i...... is  rolleyes.gif

hehehe I was suppose to answer that
Iesous
QUOTE (555Joshua+Jul 14 2005, 11:46 AM)
I came up with an analogy at this one post, however, no one responded to it, so I thought I would make a post for it.

Here it is:

Tree : Wood :: Old Man : ??

Try to solve it. biggrin.gif


Ta-ta cool.gif

Tree : Wood :: Old Man : Baby

something new and mold-able out of death
555Joshua
That analogy is very old and outdated. By the way, no, that is not the answer.
Your fellow human (yfh)
QUOTE (555Joshua+Jul 14 2005, 11:46 AM)
I came up with an analogy at this one post, however, no one responded to it, so I thought I would make a post for it.

Here it is:

Tree : Wood :: Old Man : ??

Try to solve it.  biggrin.gif


Ta-ta cool.gif

Some trees reproduce by roots from the origonal steming off and growing into a new tree. Human ageing is difforent then tree or plant life's ageing.
The old man, is greater then the tree in all ways but one...
He will die, and his mind and spirit were capable of fathoming the art of never dieing, yet they did die, and the mindless tree lived on forever...
.....
But in what way and with what meaning?.......
Guest_Curious
Tree : Wood :: Old Man : ??


Tree : Wood :: Old Man : Boy ?
Lame
QUOTE
Tree : Wood :: Old Man : ??


You're wasting your time. It's a fundamenmtally flawed and poorly designed analogy with multiple possible answers and therefore is *invalid*.

If there are 10 different answers that can all be proved logically then you are just guessing as to which of the many possible correct answers the writer chose to say was correct.

Lame
"fundamentally"
Guest_SteveA
QUOTE ("THEY"+Oct 13 2005, 08:11 PM)
Thats not hard! Here is a physics joke I received today...

SCIENTISTS DISCOVER NEW ELEMENT
>
>
>
>
> Associated Press September 01, 2005
>
>...

biggrin.gif Good one; I know since I work in government...just trying to decide what kind of particle I am. blink.gif
555Joshua
QUOTE (Lame+)
If there are 10 different answers that can all be proved logically then you are just guessing as to which of the many possible correct answers the writer chose to say was correct.

If you want to think so buddy.
bang4thebuck
555Joshua,

Not to bring an dead ol' thread back....but

I only read your question and the last page.

Honestly, I immediately thought CHILD was the missing answer, whether its right or wrong.

Tree: Wood :: Old man : Child

Thinking on one pattern of logistical analysis. Then....

Secondly, I thought SPERM, funnily. biggrin.gif

Maybe you gave some clue somwhere, that I havn't yet seen/read...

Thanks.

PS: hope thIs doesnt spark it off again unsure.gif
555Joshua
Let's see now, what is the wood to a tree? What would that be to an old man?
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