Phillip347 has come up with some posts, though disterbing, are eye openers. In the near future prostitution could be wiped clean. However, this would come by having sex with robots. Just imagine, there could be places to go, different selections. And I am thinking: is this wrong? Is it perverted past any known extent?
Has technology gone too far to be able to do such things?
QUOTE (555Joshua+Jul 1 2005, 03:07 PM)
Phillip347 has come up with some posts, though disterbing, are eye openers. In the near future prostitution could be wiped clean. However, this would come by having sex with robots. Just imagine, there could be places to go, different selections. And I am thinking: is this wrong? Is it perverted past any known extent?
Has technology gone too far to be able to do such things?
I don't know if the robot aspect would ever happen, well probably, from what I hear there are some dolls that have disturbingly real feel. I don't think it would end prostitution, forgive the analogy, but saying sex with a robot would replace real people is like saying fast food will replace gourmet restaurants. I also don't think technology is the problem, but the driving force behind it.
Has technology gone too far to be able to do such things?
I don't know if the robot aspect would ever happen, well probably, from what I hear there are some dolls that have disturbingly real feel. I don't think it would end prostitution, forgive the analogy, but saying sex with a robot would replace real people is like saying fast food will replace gourmet restaurants. I also don't think technology is the problem, but the driving force behind it.
Here are the scenarios that you need.
These are based in myth, however centered in reality.
HAL 9000 from 2001; why system went into failure?
The HAL 9000 was socially based a'part from the mission in that systems said social set.
The HAL threw a social fit, which was a full blown psychotic episode, due to feeling socially, as a nonpart of the crew.
Screamers, movies one and two.
What had evolved out of Screamers, were synthetic people, who were the highest developed humanlike robots, that there were.
In the first Screamers, a human and synthobot had relations.The reason these relations had evolved, was due to the fact, that these synthobots, were illprogrammed, to obey humans.
In the second of the Screamers series< the Neb alliance and another faction, have it out by all out war.
There is a device known as a screamer, which is a killer grade of robot that attacks certain opposing forces, however under control.
The robots go rouge and start to replicate humans.
In the end, it is the robots against all humans, as the humans are termed as a degradable species.
In this movie, the star of the film makes love to a robot, or screamer, however he allies one of them to his cause, which saves his life.
The moral of the story, is that androbots are capable of self indepentdet thought.
I-Robt.
I-Robr, when I saw the ads for this movie, I thought it was a movie based add, for a real product.
The prototypes that they used, were base both in bottery, as well as some forms of nanotechnollgies.
The problem with how the situation was set up in I-Robot, is that a central brain would control all thought through a collective, without a series of failsafe controls.
I_Robot was a very good movie, as this series, extolled the factor that robots, are sometimes plain scared.\\
What one has to understand about robots, is that they can be fashion ioned andromorphically, however their psychological profiles, are very similar to that of communitive insets.
This to them might be a style, however to us something to fear?
One has to realize that in some ways, robots will natural come to humans.
In this respect, a bond is formed, due to the fact, of a companion based symbiotic relationship.
The downside of a abusing robots, of any kind, is that at times they talk, discuss facts as a collective.
I don't not approve of robot jousting, to the point where one or the other robot is or has been damaged.
I feel that this act is wholly immoral.
>I do not approve of robots, or androids as sex partners for mankind, as there is too much a of a dissimilarity between bots ion the libedic realm, to where they cannot readily factor out deeper human emotions.
The insect peril for the bots, conflict with the human primates tendency to wallow in their emotions.
In seome respects, Androids and robots, would be much neater, in how the approach the equation of emotion, as this factor relates to attachments.
*The movie A.I. by Steven Spielberg, explores android bots, as sex servants.The problem here, is that these bots do not factor their synaptic realms,. of social conflicts, and possibly could succumb to a psychotic episode.
Bots may copy certain aspects of their sociology from mankind, even their sexuality?Know that once this process imbues this sexuality then in time this is the robot's own.Not mans.
The one problem this society has, is that it does not have certain access to academic suggested readings, that break away from the status quoe.
Due to this shortcoming in what is enforced in academia,. there is lack of application as how bots in other proposed areas, would intertreact with their humanoid, or other being counterpart companions or matters.
This shortcoming is not my fault.However only an earmark, of a cripted academic muse, that knows little or no lateral ability in its thinking.
These are based in myth, however centered in reality.
HAL 9000 from 2001; why system went into failure?
The HAL 9000 was socially based a'part from the mission in that systems said social set.
The HAL threw a social fit, which was a full blown psychotic episode, due to feeling socially, as a nonpart of the crew.
Screamers, movies one and two.
What had evolved out of Screamers, were synthetic people, who were the highest developed humanlike robots, that there were.
In the first Screamers, a human and synthobot had relations.The reason these relations had evolved, was due to the fact, that these synthobots, were illprogrammed, to obey humans.
In the second of the Screamers series< the Neb alliance and another faction, have it out by all out war.
There is a device known as a screamer, which is a killer grade of robot that attacks certain opposing forces, however under control.
The robots go rouge and start to replicate humans.
In the end, it is the robots against all humans, as the humans are termed as a degradable species.
In this movie, the star of the film makes love to a robot, or screamer, however he allies one of them to his cause, which saves his life.
The moral of the story, is that androbots are capable of self indepentdet thought.
I-Robt.
I-Robr, when I saw the ads for this movie, I thought it was a movie based add, for a real product.
The prototypes that they used, were base both in bottery, as well as some forms of nanotechnollgies.
The problem with how the situation was set up in I-Robot, is that a central brain would control all thought through a collective, without a series of failsafe controls.
I_Robot was a very good movie, as this series, extolled the factor that robots, are sometimes plain scared.\\
What one has to understand about robots, is that they can be fashion ioned andromorphically, however their psychological profiles, are very similar to that of communitive insets.
This to them might be a style, however to us something to fear?
One has to realize that in some ways, robots will natural come to humans.
In this respect, a bond is formed, due to the fact, of a companion based symbiotic relationship.
The downside of a abusing robots, of any kind, is that at times they talk, discuss facts as a collective.
I don't not approve of robot jousting, to the point where one or the other robot is or has been damaged.
I feel that this act is wholly immoral.
>I do not approve of robots, or androids as sex partners for mankind, as there is too much a of a dissimilarity between bots ion the libedic realm, to where they cannot readily factor out deeper human emotions.
The insect peril for the bots, conflict with the human primates tendency to wallow in their emotions.
In seome respects, Androids and robots, would be much neater, in how the approach the equation of emotion, as this factor relates to attachments.
*The movie A.I. by Steven Spielberg, explores android bots, as sex servants.The problem here, is that these bots do not factor their synaptic realms,. of social conflicts, and possibly could succumb to a psychotic episode.
Bots may copy certain aspects of their sociology from mankind, even their sexuality?Know that once this process imbues this sexuality then in time this is the robot's own.Not mans.
The one problem this society has, is that it does not have certain access to academic suggested readings, that break away from the status quoe.
Due to this shortcoming in what is enforced in academia,. there is lack of application as how bots in other proposed areas, would intertreact with their humanoid, or other being counterpart companions or matters.
This shortcoming is not my fault.However only an earmark, of a cripted academic muse, that knows little or no lateral ability in its thinking.
Don't people already have sex with machines to a certain degree? Eventually robot sex will just be another fetish(if it isn't already).
Closeout on this information:
Please note as this might seem incredible, that in the fashioning of a super robot, or synthetic human that emulates humankind, there might be the required involvement of a said supposed super-being, on the other end of that creation?
This might be a required text, as after a while, this proposed machine, is, may not be considered a machine any longer, however a life form of its own.
No comment is given after this point in time.
Please note as this might seem incredible, that in the fashioning of a super robot, or synthetic human that emulates humankind, there might be the required involvement of a said supposed super-being, on the other end of that creation?
This might be a required text, as after a while, this proposed machine, is, may not be considered a machine any longer, however a life form of its own.
No comment is given after this point in time.
I thought it was confirmed in 2010 that HAL was programmed to kill the crew by the government.
QUOTE (Landwand Spacorn+Jul 2 2005, 08:34 AM)
Don't people already have sex with machines to a certain degree? Eventually robot sex will just be another fetish(if it isn't already).
I supose that people "actually"are having sexual pleasure with" machines".
Virtual meetings through the web for example,web cam.....Who is agree?
Samantha
I supose that people "actually"are having sexual pleasure with" machines".
Virtual meetings through the web for example,web cam.....Who is agree?
Samantha
I don't answer guest more than one answer, unless they resister.
In the movie script of 2001, it reads, something like"Yes Tango one niner' we have noted some problems with our HAL 9000 at the test facility and feel that you might be experiencing the same?
HAL went nuts, as it was a large mainframe system, that was ties into the ship's function.
So the systems itself, began to look at the crew as extraneous and therefore eliminated them.
I.Q. is not the main objective in teaching artificial systems to think.Emotion and hu,manity are the main turnouts that should be sd strived for here?
In the movie script of 2001, it reads, something like"Yes Tango one niner' we have noted some problems with our HAL 9000 at the test facility and feel that you might be experiencing the same?
HAL went nuts, as it was a large mainframe system, that was ties into the ship's function.
So the systems itself, began to look at the crew as extraneous and therefore eliminated them.
I.Q. is not the main objective in teaching artificial systems to think.Emotion and hu,manity are the main turnouts that should be sd strived for here?
Samantha said> I supose that people, "actually"are having sexual pleasure with machines".
Virtual meetings through the web for example,web cam.....Who is agreement here?
Phil answers> This is the stage we are at as a civilization.
In some instance mankind might transcend what we know now, as this terms him as being human?
Virtual meetings through the web for example,web cam.....Who is agreement here?
Phil answers> This is the stage we are at as a civilization.
In some instance mankind might transcend what we know now, as this terms him as being human?
[FONT=Geneva][SIZE=1][COLOR=purple]So far, this discussion has covered several areas of synthetic humans.
Have we forgotten Phil ***'s cautionary tale about Robot's that dream about sheep???
E.g. the "Bladerunner" movie???
We build them to do our worst work, to fight our wars, to go where no human ought to go, and then we have them self-destruct because we are afraid of them going psychotic.
But despite this built in self-destruction after 4 years, the synthetic humans go psychotic anyway, worrying about death and how to avoid it.
Not much different than humans who go berserk worrying about dying.
I say, better to face your pending mortality than to deny it and live in constant fear.
Fear is the worst motivator of all---
hence all the worst humans are capable of dishing to each other.
We need to keep in mind the "utility" of robots, synthetic humans, or pick-your-favorite-name.
What we use them for determines, to a great extent, what they will become.
---Lew
Have we forgotten Phil ***'s cautionary tale about Robot's that dream about sheep???
E.g. the "Bladerunner" movie???
We build them to do our worst work, to fight our wars, to go where no human ought to go, and then we have them self-destruct because we are afraid of them going psychotic.
But despite this built in self-destruction after 4 years, the synthetic humans go psychotic anyway, worrying about death and how to avoid it.
Not much different than humans who go berserk worrying about dying.
I say, better to face your pending mortality than to deny it and live in constant fear.
Fear is the worst motivator of all---
hence all the worst humans are capable of dishing to each other.
We need to keep in mind the "utility" of robots, synthetic humans, or pick-your-favorite-name.
What we use them for determines, to a great extent, what they will become.
---Lew
Lews said> Have we forgotten Phil ***'s cautionary tale about Robot's that dream about sheep???
E.g. the "Bladerunner" movie???
We build them to do our worst work, to fight our wars, to go where no human ought to go, and then we have them self-destruct because we are afraid of them going psychotic.
But despite this built in self-destruction after 4 years, the synthetic humans go psychotic anyway, worrying about death and how to avoid it.
Phil answers> In all cases, I don't think that this would be the norm, as Blade Runner was about a planned expiration date, not what the average demand would be.
E.g. the "Bladerunner" movie???
We build them to do our worst work, to fight our wars, to go where no human ought to go, and then we have them self-destruct because we are afraid of them going psychotic.
But despite this built in self-destruction after 4 years, the synthetic humans go psychotic anyway, worrying about death and how to avoid it.
Phil answers> In all cases, I don't think that this would be the norm, as Blade Runner was about a planned expiration date, not what the average demand would be.
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It appears that the main discussion has been what robots will become. They will become what we make them. If you could build a robot, what attributes would you include.
For what they become will depend on the demand, in other words what attributes will people pay for will drive a market.
If 100 people responed with "why I want a robot", what the majority ask for will be what we build. If there is a market large enough for some interprizing soul to pay for their effort, even the smaller markets would be served.
Mow the lawn, vacuum the floor, already done. The fact that the internet pulls in 7 billion dollars or more in sex related sites probably speaks for its self.
The question becomes will sex that is totally void of social interactiion be fulfilling or will it be confused for love. For some the answer has always been yes. If it becomes the easy path, many will be distracted and miss the best part of being in this short life.
For what they become will depend on the demand, in other words what attributes will people pay for will drive a market.
If 100 people responed with "why I want a robot", what the majority ask for will be what we build. If there is a market large enough for some interprizing soul to pay for their effort, even the smaller markets would be served.
Mow the lawn, vacuum the floor, already done. The fact that the internet pulls in 7 billion dollars or more in sex related sites probably speaks for its self.
The question becomes will sex that is totally void of social interactiion be fulfilling or will it be confused for love. For some the answer has always been yes. If it becomes the easy path, many will be distracted and miss the best part of being in this short life.
Would one rather have sex(even protected) in a 'russian roulette' sea of raging hormonal lustnoids promising you that 'it's ok my doctor said i'm healthy and clean' so do me now you fool situation ?! The doll robot situation isn't sinful. I'm not saying marry one of them, but it's a safe alternative. Eventually you'll find your soulmate, check eachother out physically, mentally and spiritually and the rest is natural. In the mean time a guy(or girl) gets horny! A dollbot might just work during those inbetween significan't other situations. And you can turn off the speech controller LOL! (__i__)
It has been agreed that sex will be converted competely into a pleasure only thing.
Ta-ta
Ta-ta
Dear Samantha, are you a Russian agent who is being sent here, to spy on the latest accomplishments in robotics technologies?
QUOTE (philip347+Jul 5 2005, 12:37 PM)
Dear Samantha, are you a Russian agent who is being sent here, to spy on the latest accomplishments in robotics technologies?
I swear, you're smoking something.
Ta-ta
I swear, you're smoking something.
Ta-ta
Certainly, and maybe with a little light cooking and cleaning duties they can take the place of some who need an adjustment of their nasty attitudes.
To JD, No a fully functional android.In some cases, a synthetic human.
This is a highly engineered vehicle, that both looks and acts as if it's human.
There are probably one out of one hundred thousand who can even begin to approach this level.
There is about one in one to one half million people that could pull this off.
My work and theories are forty years, at least ahead of thie time.
I am a nonsmoker and don't get into the dope scene.If anyone's thinking this.
This is a highly engineered vehicle, that both looks and acts as if it's human.
There are probably one out of one hundred thousand who can even begin to approach this level.
There is about one in one to one half million people that could pull this off.
My work and theories are forty years, at least ahead of thie time.
I am a nonsmoker and don't get into the dope scene.If anyone's thinking this.
Samantha said Agee._____The correct spelling is agreed to.
Example would be, "No on my insurance forms, I did not agree to this clause._The ins agent might say, "Well Sam' yes you did. You had agreed to this clause in your contract, that forty in the deductible paid out for the new windshield"?
Virtual Samantha is a girl figure who sits in a chair, with her can of soda, looking at the board as it is being posted and occurs.
Sam has long legs, medium length hair.Wears a dress and is seated in the university style chair, which is part wood and part cushion fabric.
Sam says, "Well no, I mean a walleye would know better, as at some point in time, mankind would have to have an augmentation bot, robot or synth-bot, added to his entourage?
I mean gag me with a spoon, what else would there be for him, with the rate and how he's going..?
Sam sips her pop, smiles, says, "Oh me gosh"!? Virtual Samantha blinks eyes, her hair blows in the breeze, shifts her position in the chair and crosses her legs.Hmmm?
Example would be, "No on my insurance forms, I did not agree to this clause._The ins agent might say, "Well Sam' yes you did. You had agreed to this clause in your contract, that forty in the deductible paid out for the new windshield"?
Virtual Samantha is a girl figure who sits in a chair, with her can of soda, looking at the board as it is being posted and occurs.
Sam has long legs, medium length hair.Wears a dress and is seated in the university style chair, which is part wood and part cushion fabric.
Sam says, "Well no, I mean a walleye would know better, as at some point in time, mankind would have to have an augmentation bot, robot or synth-bot, added to his entourage?
I mean gag me with a spoon, what else would there be for him, with the rate and how he's going..?
Sam sips her pop, smiles, says, "Oh me gosh"!? Virtual Samantha blinks eyes, her hair blows in the breeze, shifts her position in the chair and crosses her legs.Hmmm?
Phillip347,
Okay, I was just joking.
I believe my theories are ahead of my time also, and I think they will alter how we see the physical world.
I do want to have robots which look so much like humans that you can not tell the defference. However, I do not want them just for sex. I think that's sick and perverted, like a blow-up doll. Only, a blow-up doll that talks dirty to you.
Ta-ta
Okay, I was just joking.
I believe my theories are ahead of my time also, and I think they will alter how we see the physical world.
I do want to have robots which look so much like humans that you can not tell the defference. However, I do not want them just for sex. I think that's sick and perverted, like a blow-up doll. Only, a blow-up doll that talks dirty to you.
Ta-ta
What if you got involved with someone and you found out they were synthetic?
QUOTE
What if you got involved with someone and you found out they were synthetic?
Well, I would be fearing for my life, I wouldn't want to dump her, she might get mad and kill me, because, robots are supposed to be able to do so. I would probably also be disappointed. Disappointed that the woman with which I was having a sexual relationship isn't real. I would also be amazed, by how well she was created, how she was able to fool me. And I would be angry, because the woman I loved was a robot.
Hey, this could make a good book.
What about all of you perverted psychos? What would you do if your wife (or husbin) were really an android?
Ta-ta
Lanward spcorn says>What if you got involved with someone and you found out they were synthetic?
Philip answers>This depends on the time, the era, the technology imposed?
This scenario was given in the Blade Runner movie, to where they could engineer almost perfect synthetic humans.So closre to the real thing, that they were almost the real thing.
The engineering would go way beyond anything that we know now.
The prime body, would be grown in a vat, as a universal form and then detail added later on in order to confine the contents of that mold, with definition.
Only a grouping of clariency cells, from a donor is needed, however these problems starts to come to light.
Within complex DNA replication patterns, of such organs as the intestines, there would be sometimes mistakes, as the primary barrowing from the DNA pattern transcriptase, is not wholed from a primary set of once core cells, that the latter groupings, of cells can copyu from, such as in a human featis.
So the secondary replication clauses, within parts of extensive organs with great complexity of design, might, may not be copied well.
So an expiration date might well come to light?
The use of viruses within the human body, act as time-lock messengers, which foretell of certain changes such as maturation of hormonal platform, puberty,. forinstance, which depend on the appearance of these viruses.
So what viruses do, is act as signalers, of when certain events are supposed to have happened in the body.
This is all a highly complex set of affairs, within any real, or synthetic human.
A syhttic human depends upon the loader of detailed information, in order to makes it replicate cause, function.
In other words, the information that is downloaded into the brain of the synthetic, would make the synthetic body itself, determine its own DNA replication rates.
This is what the Frankenstein novels were trying to do, was animate a synthetic body, which was a collection of sewn together parts, but had to depend on one certal locus part, from a contributing force, which was very precisely controlled electricity, from lightning, which would act as a creational matrix informer.
E.G. the lightning was the structure determinate, which gave a uniformity clause to all of the cells involved within the Frankenhowser project.
(Frankenhowser, meaning from the house of Frankenstein)
In a future synthetic a series of electrical shocks, would have to be fed into the waterbath containing the protosynthitic.
This synthetic being held within a biological RNA soup, with would act as the artificial womb, for the synthetic.
I don't not know of projected cellular rates of growth, so a near adult configuration, in vitro, or watherbath, might be sought over a complete human sized protoform, as the subadult would generate a primacy rate, which possibly would clarify cellular division modes, within the needed to know RNA held transcriptase.
RNA is the soup in which the DNA lies, so the RNA balance, as it houses the DNA styles, is of what is important here.
The soul must be installed by character of the mold.
So if one were to have fallen in love with a synthetic human, then one would have to depend on the form which made the synthetic and then how this protosoul would have invested.
Philip answers>This depends on the time, the era, the technology imposed?
This scenario was given in the Blade Runner movie, to where they could engineer almost perfect synthetic humans.So closre to the real thing, that they were almost the real thing.
The engineering would go way beyond anything that we know now.
The prime body, would be grown in a vat, as a universal form and then detail added later on in order to confine the contents of that mold, with definition.
Only a grouping of clariency cells, from a donor is needed, however these problems starts to come to light.
Within complex DNA replication patterns, of such organs as the intestines, there would be sometimes mistakes, as the primary barrowing from the DNA pattern transcriptase, is not wholed from a primary set of once core cells, that the latter groupings, of cells can copyu from, such as in a human featis.
So the secondary replication clauses, within parts of extensive organs with great complexity of design, might, may not be copied well.
So an expiration date might well come to light?
The use of viruses within the human body, act as time-lock messengers, which foretell of certain changes such as maturation of hormonal platform, puberty,. forinstance, which depend on the appearance of these viruses.
So what viruses do, is act as signalers, of when certain events are supposed to have happened in the body.
This is all a highly complex set of affairs, within any real, or synthetic human.
A syhttic human depends upon the loader of detailed information, in order to makes it replicate cause, function.
In other words, the information that is downloaded into the brain of the synthetic, would make the synthetic body itself, determine its own DNA replication rates.
This is what the Frankenstein novels were trying to do, was animate a synthetic body, which was a collection of sewn together parts, but had to depend on one certal locus part, from a contributing force, which was very precisely controlled electricity, from lightning, which would act as a creational matrix informer.
E.G. the lightning was the structure determinate, which gave a uniformity clause to all of the cells involved within the Frankenhowser project.
(Frankenhowser, meaning from the house of Frankenstein)
In a future synthetic a series of electrical shocks, would have to be fed into the waterbath containing the protosynthitic.
This synthetic being held within a biological RNA soup, with would act as the artificial womb, for the synthetic.
I don't not know of projected cellular rates of growth, so a near adult configuration, in vitro, or watherbath, might be sought over a complete human sized protoform, as the subadult would generate a primacy rate, which possibly would clarify cellular division modes, within the needed to know RNA held transcriptase.
RNA is the soup in which the DNA lies, so the RNA balance, as it houses the DNA styles, is of what is important here.
The soul must be installed by character of the mold.
So if one were to have fallen in love with a synthetic human, then one would have to depend on the form which made the synthetic and then how this protosoul would have invested.
I am a russian agent.You caught me!
Samantha
Samantha
To Philip 347:
I see that you were imaging me (in your 6th of july coment) how i look,how i seat,what i think.......why are you taking so much time dealing with a russian agent that doesn't even know how to spell correctly?
Sam
I see that you were imaging me (in your 6th of july coment) how i look,how i seat,what i think.......why are you taking so much time dealing with a russian agent that doesn't even know how to spell correctly?
Sam
QUOTE (philip347+Jul 8 2005, 06:43 PM)
In other words, the information that is downloaded into the brain of the synthetic, would make the synthetic body itself, determine its own DNA replication rates.
DNA? this sounds more like man made biology rather than machines that look human. Although what is biology except molecular machines all working in concert to make an organism?
To Sam, oh' I thought I would give you a manicure.
Yes man-made.Sythobots, with be manmade, but will help us solve some of the duty problems of our civilization.
Yes man-made.Sythobots, with be manmade, but will help us solve some of the duty problems of our civilization.
What 347 means?
Are you real? or is just your serial number?
I just did my nails.
Thank you anyway.
Samantha
Are you real? or is just your serial number?
I just did my nails.
Thank you anyway.
Samantha
Sam, if your Russian and not a national, there is probably someone watching you, while your watching me?
This is a robotics thread, on the dismal chances of supplying robotics to people and corporations that need them.
If you have something worthy to add, rather than sit in the background then p.m. me.
The Berlitz series of book gives a good view on how to behave in Russia as well as get along there.
This factor however, was in the 1960s, not in today's world.
This is a robotics thread, on the dismal chances of supplying robotics to people and corporations that need them.
If you have something worthy to add, rather than sit in the background then p.m. me.
The Berlitz series of book gives a good view on how to behave in Russia as well as get along there.
This factor however, was in the 1960s, not in today's world.
Dear Guest:
You sound to me like you are kicking me out of the forum.I am really sorry if I ever disturbed you or others.I am not russian(this was philip 347 idea),I am an israeli woman interested in science.Since I am not welcome here i supose i should leave.
Samantha
שלום
You sound to me like you are kicking me out of the forum.I am really sorry if I ever disturbed you or others.I am not russian(this was philip 347 idea),I am an israeli woman interested in science.Since I am not welcome here i supose i should leave.
Samantha
שלום
Sam' get registered if you can?
What do scientist in Isreal, want with robotics technolgies at this level any way?
What do scientist in Isreal, want with robotics technolgies at this level any way?
the same as you do
I have a P.M. you might what to clean up your approch and redress?
QUOTE (Guest_Samantha+Jul 9 2005, 04:28 PM)
Dear Guest:
You sound to me like you are kicking me out of the forum.I am really sorry if I ever disturbed you or others.I am not russian(this was philip 347 idea),I am an israeli woman interested in science.Since I am not welcome here i supose i should leave.
Heh! You should try being a "nut-job" like me... nearly every time I try to make a post, the topic thread dies almost instantly!
In any case, it's not the fact of your gender that is the root cause of the problem --- it's narrow-mindedness, and closed viewpoints.
So; ignore them, and post anyway --- you certainly have as much right to hold your own viewpoint as anybody.
You sound to me like you are kicking me out of the forum.I am really sorry if I ever disturbed you or others.I am not russian(this was philip 347 idea),I am an israeli woman interested in science.Since I am not welcome here i supose i should leave.
Heh! You should try being a "nut-job" like me... nearly every time I try to make a post, the topic thread dies almost instantly!
In any case, it's not the fact of your gender that is the root cause of the problem --- it's narrow-mindedness, and closed viewpoints.
So; ignore them, and post anyway --- you certainly have as much right to hold your own viewpoint as anybody.
To Moron:
Thanks you for your words.I appreciate them.
Sam
Thanks you for your words.I appreciate them.
Sam
In reference to 555joshua's comment about a robotic lover perhaps trying to kill him if he were to dump it, that would imply that it would beable to override it's own hard wire programming. Is anyone aware of asimoves laws of robotics?
Are you going to register?
What is your problem Philip?
Do you hate women?
Do you hate Jewish?
In that case you should move to a different forum.
There are many like you, narrow minds that confuses science with personal problems.
Samantha.
Do you hate women?
Do you hate Jewish?
In that case you should move to a different forum.
There are many like you, narrow minds that confuses science with personal problems.
Samantha.
Historical note this thread:Philip 347 gave specific instruction to guest Samantha, to register and log in,. in order to be a proper part of these threads.
The poster Philip 347 has no idea who guest poster Samantha is, her or his said determinations, or whether said poster, if hostile in their said intentions of not?
The poster Philip 347 has no idea who guest poster Samantha is, her or his said determinations, or whether said poster, if hostile in their said intentions of not?
Holy doodle... <ahem!> Moving right along and back onto topic --- this whole "sex-with-robots" sort of thing... well, aside from such idiot puerile thoughts as, for example, Lister completely wearing out two groinal attachment units, I'm feeling at sort of a loss as to *how*... I mean, literally. The idea of actual living androids such as ***'s 'replicants' is still but a mere fantasy; I think it will be rather quite a while before that one is achieved. And in the meantime, how "real" is metal-and-plastic going to be? God help the poor bugger whose unit _malfunctions_... <ouch!>.
But; in the sense of the desire, the "need" for such, well... yes; I can see that happening. For in a sense, aren't many doing it right *now*? I'm thinking of all this porn business... I know people who have done nothing _but_ download porn for years! I think they'd die without a connection; they've been at it too long... as far as I'm aware, they've been at it since the days of 2400-baud modems.
So, uhh, *yeah* --- I can definitely see it happening. Which is _really_ gonna screw society up, but, hey --- you can't stop "Progress", eh?
"Yeah". I'm almost glad I won't be around to see it... it sounds about as appealing as Dilbert getting a pen-job.
But; in the sense of the desire, the "need" for such, well... yes; I can see that happening. For in a sense, aren't many doing it right *now*? I'm thinking of all this porn business... I know people who have done nothing _but_ download porn for years! I think they'd die without a connection; they've been at it too long... as far as I'm aware, they've been at it since the days of 2400-baud modems.
So, uhh, *yeah* --- I can definitely see it happening. Which is _really_ gonna screw society up, but, hey --- you can't stop "Progress", eh?
"Yeah". I'm almost glad I won't be around to see it... it sounds about as appealing as Dilbert getting a pen-job.
Excuse me again; I'm sorry --- but apparently, my previous post has triggered a Forum defense system, and _struck_ the surname of the well-known science fiction author I was attempting to refer to --- that author, of course, being Philip K. ***, who wrote the original story behind Blade Runner.
Apologies extended.
Apologies extended.
Women have been using sex robots for decades. They're called vibrators.
Good thing they don't open jars or we'd be out of business, fellas.
p.s. I love this website.
p.p.s. Sam, don't throw down the gauntlet of antisemitism because you aren't happy. That's just not cool and no one wants to hear it.
Good thing they don't open jars or we'd be out of business, fellas.
p.s. I love this website.
p.p.s. Sam, don't throw down the gauntlet of antisemitism because you aren't happy. That's just not cool and no one wants to hear it.
Sam,
Don't listen to these jerks, I would be very happy to see another woman on this forum. It's more insightful when you have more than the grunts of males. You have been nothing but friendly, and besides, no one can kick you out of this forum but the cartakers.
I know you were fooling around but, if Phillip's serial number is 347, then mine must be 555.
I hope you do register; you could have your own serial number.
Who said she isn't happy? If she isn't happy it's probably because of your welcoming squad.
Don't listen to these jerks, I would be very happy to see another woman on this forum. It's more insightful when you have more than the grunts of males. You have been nothing but friendly, and besides, no one can kick you out of this forum but the cartakers.
I know you were fooling around but, if Phillip's serial number is 347, then mine must be 555.
I hope you do register; you could have your own serial number.
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Sam, don't throw down the gauntlet of antisemitism because you aren't happy. That's just not cool and no one wants to hear it.
Who said she isn't happy? If she isn't happy it's probably because of your welcoming squad.
Thank you 555.You are the only gentleman here around.
I will become a member.
Samantha
I will become a member.
Samantha
computer hard drive
QUOTE (Sam+)
Thank you 555.You are the only gentleman here around.
I don't know what to say. Thanks
Insyght, he's okay, would never insult you. Neither would WaterBreath, nor Good Elf, Evolutionist might.
But the others, he he, I don't have to much touble.
You just need to know how to handle these guys. They're okay if you can--and are willing--to fight back.
Don't take Phillip too seriously, take another look at this:
I don't know what to say. Thanks Insyght, he's okay, would never insult you. Neither would WaterBreath, nor Good Elf, Evolutionist might.
But the others, he he, I don't have to much touble.
You just need to know how to handle these guys. They're okay if you can--and are willing--to fight back.
Don't take Phillip too seriously, take another look at this:
QUOTE (Phillip347+)
The poster Philip 347 has no idea who guest poster Samantha is, her or his said determinations, or whether said poster, if hostile in their said intentions of not?
For one thing, he speaks of himself in the third person. Then:
And look at two of his topics, both have something to do with sex with robots, which is why I started this thread in the first place. Read them, check out what some people said to him.
First Thread:
Second Thread:
For one thing, he speaks of himself in the third person. Then:
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her or his
Her or his?!? I guess that's not all that uncommen, I have a brother named Samantha, and a father named Ashley. And look at two of his topics, both have something to do with sex with robots, which is why I started this thread in the first place. Read them, check out what some people said to him.
First Thread:
Second Thread:
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| QUOTE |
| her or his |
Her or his?!? I guess that's not all that uncommen, I have a brother named Samantha, and a father named Ashley.
And look at two of his topics, both have something to do with sex with robots, which is why I started this thread in the first place. Read them, check out what some people said to him.
First Thread:
Second Thread:
Women have been using sex robots for decades. They're called vibrators.
Those are not robots, those are machines. They vibrate, that's it; furthermore, they don't even have a hard drive. A computer is more of a robot.
Actually those things aren't as pleasing as you might think. No, I did not try them, how could I? Someone told me they are not as good as a GOOD night, so you will be replaced if you make love like a Sloth.
Ta-ta
And look at two of his topics, both have something to do with sex with robots, which is why I started this thread in the first place. Read them, check out what some people said to him.
First Thread:
Second Thread:
Women have been using sex robots for decades. They're called vibrators.
Those are not robots, those are machines. They vibrate, that's it; furthermore, they don't even have a hard drive. A computer is more of a robot.
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Good thing they don't open jars or we'd be out of business, fellas.
Actually those things aren't as pleasing as you might think. No, I did not try them, how could I? Someone told me they are not as good as a GOOD night, so you will be replaced if you make love like a Sloth.
Ta-ta
Sam,
In thread one were you "Sam Vega?"
I don't mean to pry, but is Israeli life how I am lead to beleave? (You probably don't know how I am led to beleave ). What I mean is, is it like all of the other middle eastern countries, with the strict rules, and social life?
If you don't want to answer I will understand.
Ta-ta
In thread one were you "Sam Vega?"
I don't mean to pry, but is Israeli life how I am lead to beleave? (You probably don't know how I am led to beleave
). What I mean is, is it like all of the other middle eastern countries, with the strict rules, and social life? If you don't want to answer I will understand.
Ta-ta
Friends,
They now have a type of plastic able to act as nurve strands, very fascinating. Pritty soon we will have a collection of robots from whom we cannot determine what is human. I don't think they will have robots made for sex, since that is just discusting.
Thoughts?
Ta-ta
P.S. I am watching my forum shrivel up and die.
They now have a type of plastic able to act as nurve strands, very fascinating. Pritty soon we will have a collection of robots from whom we cannot determine what is human. I don't think they will have robots made for sex, since that is just discusting.
Thoughts?
Ta-ta
P.S. I am watching my forum shrivel up and die.
QUOTE (555Joshua+Jul 14 2005, 11:53 AM)
Friends,
They now have a type of plastic able to act as nurve strands, very fascinating. Pritty soon we will have a collection of robots from whom we cannot determine what is human. I don't think they will have robots made for sex, since that is just discusting.
Thoughts?
Ta-ta
P.S. I am watching my forum shrivel up and die.
Is it discusting to use a bed to sleep? sex is a primal need just as important as sleep. And robots are tools, just like a bed.
Sexrobots are a luxury. Many people find luxuries to be discusting, therefore your reaction was expected. As these tool's availability changes from a luxury to a commodity, the discuting factor will wear off.
They now have a type of plastic able to act as nurve strands, very fascinating. Pritty soon we will have a collection of robots from whom we cannot determine what is human. I don't think they will have robots made for sex, since that is just discusting.
Thoughts?
Ta-ta
P.S. I am watching my forum shrivel up and die.
Is it discusting to use a bed to sleep? sex is a primal need just as important as sleep. And robots are tools, just like a bed.
Sexrobots are a luxury. Many people find luxuries to be discusting, therefore your reaction was expected. As these tool's availability changes from a luxury to a commodity, the discuting factor will wear off.
I think the problem is people need to clarify what they mean. Firstly, Philip sounds like he wants a biologically engineered robot that's used for human companionship, well....that's a regular human you’re just adding the part where you make them. I think that's a poor excuse for all that work. That's the part that's disturbing, creating life just to use for sex.
A machine is built to perform a task.
A robot is a continuously controlled machine that performs tasks.
Artificial life, Autonomy, Synthetic life are words that describe a machine that is capable of problem solving and/or capable of fuctioning without needing a human to control it.
If all you want is a toy that will feel like a real person then a believe oomchu already told you how to get what you want. (on page 1)
Personally I think you guys have spent too much time talking and not enough time doing. Once you try doing what you're talking about you'll see that there are hundreds of problems you'll find, and hundreds of problems in those problems. In no way am I saying that it isn't POSSIBLE one day, but I think you'd have better questions (and threads that wouldn't die as fast) once you had some practical experience.
Hopefully my words won’t be lost since I'm not registered.
A machine is built to perform a task.
A robot is a continuously controlled machine that performs tasks.
Artificial life, Autonomy, Synthetic life are words that describe a machine that is capable of problem solving and/or capable of fuctioning without needing a human to control it.
If all you want is a toy that will feel like a real person then a believe oomchu already told you how to get what you want. (on page 1)
Personally I think you guys have spent too much time talking and not enough time doing. Once you try doing what you're talking about you'll see that there are hundreds of problems you'll find, and hundreds of problems in those problems. In no way am I saying that it isn't POSSIBLE one day, but I think you'd have better questions (and threads that wouldn't die as fast) once you had some practical experience.
Hopefully my words won’t be lost since I'm not registered.
The whole discussion is a little crazy. Long before robots are lifelike enough to become sex objects, you'll have an imaginary companion/family/dog/mother of your choosing being beamed into your head from something that looks a lot like today's MP3 players. These imaginary folk will seem warm, witty, cooperative, passionate, whatever your flavor of the week. They won't take much energy, and won't need a lube job. If you actually need a robot to take care of your lawn, do your cooking, etc, it can be functional, and you can still program a virtual face on it, or give it your own style personality. In the same regard, whatever substitutes for food in the future will taste great, in your virtual world. Not to change the subject; I just think this technology will be here first.
QUOTE (steve h+Jul 22 2005, 09:18 PM)
The whole discussion is a little crazy. Long before robots are lifelike enough to become sex objects, you'll have an imaginary companion/family/dog/mother of your choosing being beamed into your head from something that looks a lot like today's MP3 players. These imaginary folk will seem warm, witty, cooperative, passionate, whatever your flavor of the week. They won't take much energy, and won't need a lube job. If you actually need a robot to take care of your lawn, do your cooking, etc, it can be functional, and you can still program a virtual face on it, or give it your own style personality. In the same regard, whatever substitutes for food in the future will taste great, in your virtual world. Not to change the subject; I just think this technology will be here first.
Yes but sex robots are the sommum of this technology. All other forms you mentionned have flaws. Robots are just as good as the real thing. Its is true however that they may be the last tech to be developed. But note that sex slave robots are probably the single reason human-like robots will ever be built in the first place.
Yes but sex robots are the sommum of this technology. All other forms you mentionned have flaws. Robots are just as good as the real thing. Its is true however that they may be the last tech to be developed. But note that sex slave robots are probably the single reason human-like robots will ever be built in the first place.
Perhaps it will come to pass that genetically-engineered lifeforms may be used for sex and other tasks, first. Anyone remember "Cordwainer Smith"? His future universe was populated with such creatures; the "underpeople" -- dogs; cats; cattle; etc. -- genetically modified, and enhanced to near-human status in order to be used as workers, sex-toys, et al. In (fictional) fact, one of his cat-derived creatures, "C'Mell", was indeed purposed for sexual work.
I would think this could be closest to being actually attainable, today... although whether socially 'desirable' or not, I don't know. At any rate, it's the "easiest" avenue of development to take, given the limitations of our current level of technology.
I would think this could be closest to being actually attainable, today... although whether socially 'desirable' or not, I don't know. At any rate, it's the "easiest" avenue of development to take, given the limitations of our current level of technology.
Sex with robots: I just signed in today...Hi...I have read this thread and found many objections to the phrase: "sex with robots", which I believe is an emotional knee-jerk button.
We have in our culture so many forms of sex with non-sentient images and apperati that we, as a culture, pay big bucks to experience. The additition of processing power to the most mundane of items...say a "battery-operated-device"
that murmered nice things to the user while reading skin surface charge and blood pressure and responded by preset user input? I believe we're talking true love here...that Juliette would have bought new batteries instead of killing herself.
That inovation is simply a blind stumble in the direction of robotic sex, but I disagree with the poster that put the sex robot at the end of list in this wild and wonderful world of robotics...there's too much interest and too much money for the animated sex tool not to lead, instead of trail the industry.
As a thought experiment into today's technological frontiers of no-name, no-fluids, remote sexual experience, I came up with this...see what you think.
Harkening back to the romantic "battery operated device", lets say that one's email romance has gained such a pressing energy that insanity grips your senses to the point of considering meeting...in the flesh...that same flesh you both edited down and up to G-Q and Victoria's un-secret-Secrets levels...what to do???
Here's the answer: You both acquire the {not yet invented}requisite "battery-operated-devices", only you spend about $1200 for the new and improved model that is real-time-romotely-programable.
You go into your private chat room with your infra red send/recieve "device"and getting comfortable with a clear line-of-sight to your computor, log on and "reach out and touch someone" Now that's some meaningful phonesex to have your mystery partner program their responses into your "device" in real-time.
If you are aware of the personas available with interactive Dungeons and Dragons, one could give one's "device" any persona one cared to, to keep it solo...in fact, given enough credit power, one could have have many "devices" named: Moday, Tuesday...etc.
So robotic sex is not a foreign concept to the general public...I feel a personal attachment to my computor...and my ex's computor, bought at the same time same make, model, and power, seems alien and awkward...not at all friendly,
It could be, that like dogs looking like their masters, computors begin to gather personal traits of their owners...who knows what is actually going on in a micro-processor? We only know what they tell us they're thinking. 
S.
We have in our culture so many forms of sex with non-sentient images and apperati that we, as a culture, pay big bucks to experience. The additition of processing power to the most mundane of items...say a "battery-operated-device"
that murmered nice things to the user while reading skin surface charge and blood pressure and responded by preset user input? I believe we're talking true love here...that Juliette would have bought new batteries instead of killing herself.That inovation is simply a blind stumble in the direction of robotic sex, but I disagree with the poster that put the sex robot at the end of list in this wild and wonderful world of robotics...there's too much interest and too much money for the animated sex tool not to lead, instead of trail the industry.
As a thought experiment into today's technological frontiers of no-name, no-fluids, remote sexual experience, I came up with this...see what you think.
Harkening back to the romantic "battery operated device", lets say that one's email romance has gained such a pressing energy that insanity grips your senses to the point of considering meeting...in the flesh...that same flesh you both edited down and up to G-Q and Victoria's un-secret-Secrets levels...what to do???
Here's the answer: You both acquire the {not yet invented}requisite "battery-operated-devices", only you spend about $1200 for the new and improved model that is real-time-romotely-programable.
You go into your private chat room with your infra red send/recieve "device"and getting comfortable with a clear line-of-sight to your computor, log on and "reach out and touch someone"
Now that's some meaningful phonesex to have your mystery partner program their responses into your "device" in real-time.If you are aware of the personas available with interactive Dungeons and Dragons, one could give one's "device" any persona one cared to, to keep it solo...in fact, given enough credit power, one could have have many "devices" named: Moday, Tuesday...etc.
So robotic sex is not a foreign concept to the general public...I feel a personal attachment to my computor...and my ex's computor, bought at the same time same make, model, and power, seems alien and awkward...not at all friendly,
It could be, that like dogs looking like their masters, computors begin to gather personal traits of their owners...who knows what is actually going on in a micro-processor? We only know what they tell us they're thinking. S.
Sex within robots, not necessarily with them, comes from the fact that the learner copies from the teacher.
This is how you ending up having robots, with sexualities already.
This is how you ending up having robots, with sexualities already.
QUOTE (philip347+Jul 23 2005, 06:59 PM)
Sex within robots, not necessarily with them, comes from the fact that the learner copies from the teacher.
This is how you ending up having robots, with sexualities already.
Lets just hope they dont end up getting pregnat, build an underground civilization and conquer the surface when the time is right...
This is how you ending up having robots, with sexualities already.
Lets just hope they dont end up getting pregnat, build an underground civilization and conquer the surface when the time is right...
ha ha ha a whole new meaning for hard drive! Ooooh and how many women will have her own Mel Gibson, Val Kilmer, or John Travolta in the closet? I can see it now... instead of barbie collections with malibu barbie we will now have Mel Gibson collections with BraveHeart Mel. I am just rolling laughing or how bout Saturday Night John, Face Off John, or special edition Holiday Hamptons John. I can see the wardrobes now..... Ooooh and what girl doesn't want her own SpiderMan in her closet this holiday season?
Dang... Barbie and Ken are gonna be dethroned. Cuz for the kids they will make a childrens line that looks like the Olsen twins or the Spy Kids... non sexually active of course! Kiss the cabbage patch kids goodbye forever! Chatty Kathy will now dial her own phone and clean the kids room at the same time. Suddenly I just invisioned Chuckie dolls and now I am not laughing any more. Creepy.
But it could cut down on population. I mean how many mothers have had a second child just so that the first child would have a playmate? Me! I am one of those moms. Because I was raised an only child.
This could be a really great thing "on the play" in so many ways.
Everyone could act like this is so weird or out there, but if that were the case sex stores selling vibrators and imitation pu-tang would not stay in business. LOL
Response to another post:
Sexuality would not be programmed in them unless they were going to be used for sex. That would be like putting in a slide show maker on your PC that never gets used. What would be the point? You don't put in programs that never get used and they won't on bots either.
Dang... Barbie and Ken are gonna be dethroned. Cuz for the kids they will make a childrens line that looks like the Olsen twins or the Spy Kids... non sexually active of course! Kiss the cabbage patch kids goodbye forever! Chatty Kathy will now dial her own phone and clean the kids room at the same time. Suddenly I just invisioned Chuckie dolls and now I am not laughing any more. Creepy.
But it could cut down on population. I mean how many mothers have had a second child just so that the first child would have a playmate? Me! I am one of those moms. Because I was raised an only child.
This could be a really great thing "on the play" in so many ways.
Everyone could act like this is so weird or out there, but if that were the case sex stores selling vibrators and imitation pu-tang would not stay in business. LOL
Response to another post:
Sexuality would not be programmed in them unless they were going to be used for sex. That would be like putting in a slide show maker on your PC that never gets used. What would be the point? You don't put in programs that never get used and they won't on bots either.
At this stage of the game, you people are wonderfully ignorant.
This work and discoveries are forty years ahead of their time.
It could be that one day a man is walking down the street, turns the corner and bumps into a lovely lady.At which he instinctively smiles at and she returns the smile.
He picks up his package that was knocked out of his hands, they both go their separate ways.
The only thing was, is that the lady was totally synthetic.
Views that are thought uncommon today, become routine in tomorrow's world.
This work and discoveries are forty years ahead of their time.
It could be that one day a man is walking down the street, turns the corner and bumps into a lovely lady.At which he instinctively smiles at and she returns the smile.
He picks up his package that was knocked out of his hands, they both go their separate ways.
The only thing was, is that the lady was totally synthetic.
Views that are thought uncommon today, become routine in tomorrow's world.
Here's a proposal I read some time back: make a 4th Law of Robotics!
The Onion
The Onion
For a bunch of uber dorks, you people certainly haven't bothered to use a dictionary (Mr. 555 - "nurve" Come on! The U isn't anywhere near the E so don't even bother calling it a typo)
Seriously, this website has some of the best collection of science news of any site I have ever visited, but you people act like children - with your incessant bickering and one-upsmanship. Don't bother replying to this post if you want to give me a piece of your mind. I'll be sticking to the articles from now on.
And for goodness sake, grow up. Learning how to take a joke should also be on your list.
I'm out!
Seriously, this website has some of the best collection of science news of any site I have ever visited, but you people act like children - with your incessant bickering and one-upsmanship. Don't bother replying to this post if you want to give me a piece of your mind. I'll be sticking to the articles from now on.
And for goodness sake, grow up. Learning how to take a joke should also be on your list.
I'm out!
If mankind imprints his own libido into sentient forms of artificial intelligence,. then these forms of intelligence would tend to develop libidos.
This would be normal, as the process of copying the basic scrip of man, would inherit this process.
So in some instances, for a while,. you would more than likely have robot human sexual relations in many differing types of levels of involvements, from just chatting, to probable full sexual intercourse?
In the basic scripting of these any proposed bots, there exist the peril of downtime, to where the bot sentiments, must get away, so that they can get their own frame of reference.
Then this period of time would be a place where they only react with mankind, as a memory, not as an active script.
How do they refuter love, or the feeling of intimacy, if what they are copying is only a memory?
This would be normal, as the process of copying the basic scrip of man, would inherit this process.
So in some instances, for a while,. you would more than likely have robot human sexual relations in many differing types of levels of involvements, from just chatting, to probable full sexual intercourse?
In the basic scripting of these any proposed bots, there exist the peril of downtime, to where the bot sentiments, must get away, so that they can get their own frame of reference.
Then this period of time would be a place where they only react with mankind, as a memory, not as an active script.
How do they refuter love, or the feeling of intimacy, if what they are copying is only a memory?
The process would become remarkably like how humans refresh their lust aspects of their libido, but albeit not true.
This is so, as the stability curve to humans is not as it is with robotic life forms.
There is a curve variance in humans, but not so much of one in robotic life forms, as the bot would have in its own way, a tendency to stay slightly more stable.
This is so, as the stability curve to humans is not as it is with robotic life forms.
There is a curve variance in humans, but not so much of one in robotic life forms, as the bot would have in its own way, a tendency to stay slightly more stable.
The example would be in the future, where Betty 342, (a female android companion) and Tom Aileron of New Austria, are enjoying a vacation of Wider's World.
Tom goes down by the water to swim and is taken by a mutant crocodile and all that is left of him is his head on the beach.
Betty goes to check on Tom and discovers all that is left of Tom, is his head.
She might pick up the head, holding it in her hands and say, "Tom you know, I really had a good time on the swing set last night!.We did it like we've never don't the you know what before. By the way, where is your body and are you no longer living?
Tom goes down by the water to swim and is taken by a mutant crocodile and all that is left of him is his head on the beach.
Betty goes to check on Tom and discovers all that is left of Tom, is his head.
She might pick up the head, holding it in her hands and say, "Tom you know, I really had a good time on the swing set last night!.We did it like we've never don't the you know what before. By the way, where is your body and are you no longer living?
Friends,
Depinds, are you poking the bed with your penis? If so, you need help. You see, what makes having sex with robots discusting is what makes having sex with blow-up dolls discusting, or masterbating. People hide from them, though they've been around for years.
It's discusting because by going to a machine for sexual pleasures, you become a creep, just like the other creeps who use blow-up dolls because they can't get laid.
Using a bed to sleep is not discusting because sleeping never was thought of as dicusting. Using a robot to have sex is discusting because sex has always been a privet matter between a man and a woman.
Depinds, are you poking the bed with your penis? If so, you need help. You see, what makes having sex with robots discusting is what makes having sex with blow-up dolls discusting, or masterbating. People hide from them, though they've been around for years.
It's discusting because by going to a machine for sexual pleasures, you become a creep, just like the other creeps who use blow-up dolls because they can't get laid.
Using a bed to sleep is not discusting because sleeping never was thought of as dicusting. Using a robot to have sex is discusting because sex has always been a privet matter between a man and a woman.
I can see the wardrobes now..... Ooooh and what girl doesn't want her own SpiderMan in her closet this holiday season?
Damn! This puts me out of a job. But I am sure as old as mel is...he could never move like me. I don't think they will program in the *** I can do in bed.
You just signed in, well welcome! What are your interestes? I can help you.
Ta-ta
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Is it discusting to use a bed to sleep? sex is a primal need just as important as sleep. And robots are tools, just like a bed.
Depinds, are you poking the bed with your penis? If so, you need help. You see, what makes having sex with robots discusting is what makes having sex with blow-up dolls discusting, or masterbating. People hide from them, though they've been around for years.
It's discusting because by going to a machine for sexual pleasures, you become a creep, just like the other creeps who use blow-up dolls because they can't get laid.
Using a bed to sleep is not discusting because sleeping never was thought of as dicusting. Using a robot to have sex is discusting because sex has always been a privet matter between a man and a woman.
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| Is it discusting to use a bed to sleep? sex is a primal need just as important as sleep. And robots are tools, just like a bed. |
Depinds, are you poking the bed with your penis? If so, you need help. You see, what makes having sex with robots discusting is what makes having sex with blow-up dolls discusting, or masterbating. People hide from them, though they've been around for years.
It's discusting because by going to a machine for sexual pleasures, you become a creep, just like the other creeps who use blow-up dolls because they can't get laid.
Using a bed to sleep is not discusting because sleeping never was thought of as dicusting. Using a robot to have sex is discusting because sex has always been a privet matter between a man and a woman.
I can see the wardrobes now..... Ooooh and what girl doesn't want her own SpiderMan in her closet this holiday season?
Damn! This puts me out of a job. But I am sure as old as mel is...he could never move like me. I don't think they will program in the *** I can do in bed.
You just signed in, well welcome! What are your interestes? I can help you.
Ta-ta
This thread is misanthropic after Pli347's last post.
You scared everyone away.
And it _wasn't_ my fault this time?
How odd...
How odd...
You know what moron? You're like a black cat. This topic was fine until you came along, posted awhile back, and it died. It came back to life, only to die. Post all you want now; you can't make it any less dead. 
Interesting, sex with robots. I would view it as "discusting" if the robot was nothing more than an unaware object doing predetermined takes set forth by the programmer. When AI evolves to the point that "robots" become aware, and of course society no longer looks at it with a narrow vision of old beliefs, sexual relations with robots would no longer be viewed as discusting. However, if they are aware it would no longer be sex with robots, but sex with another being. Would it be viewed more like sex between two humans of different a race or as sex between a human and a (dog,cat,etc..)? It would have to reach a point in which both beings are looked at as equals. People dont even like to look at other people as equals, how could it be expected that we look at robots as equals!
QUOTE (555Joshua+Jul 26 2005, 02:00 PM)
You know what moron? You're like a black cat. This topic was fine until you came along, posted awhile back, and it died. It came back to life, only to die. Post all you want now; you can't make it any less dead.
I'm sorry. But; being a moron, I pretty much post blitheringly anyway. I can't help it; I get an idea, and I _want_ to see it shot down -- so I can *learn*, and try again. This is what being a moron is; since you can't *think* things through clearly, you have to experiment with ideas, instead.
Random topics trigger random memories. The 'random memory' that this particular topic triggered was my experience of reading the works of "Cordwainer Smith" (pseudonym). I wanted to toss out the thought that maybe this particular topic goal might eventually be met through genetically-engineered lifeforms, instead of traditional robotics. For one, the results would quite probably meet the objective more satisfactorily; for another, perhaps such *could* be more readily accomplished, with either current or near-future technology. Traditional electromechanical robotics just isn't _advanced_ enough yet -- hell; we don't even have true AI sentience *anywhere* on the research front for any foreseeable future, and how on earth is ANY real sex ever going to be enjoyable without it? The difference between a vibrator and a living partner is *feedback*; _that_ is what makes the experience more enjoyable.
So. I stand my ground, and once again pose the question: why _wouldn't_ it be more realistic to expect to see 'sexual-services' organisms rendered first as GELFs, instead of incredibly-advanced robots? Is this not a more reasonable avenue of development to foresee within the reasonably-at-hand future?
Oh well. At least you got the cat nature in me absolutely right -- although I am _not_, by any means, a "pussy".
Actually, to be completely truthful, your own message signature says it best!
"If we do not learn from our mistakes, there is no point in having them."
And that is precisely what I am -- a mistake. By all rights of natural selection, I should not exist -- I _should_ have died at birth, which is exactly what *would* have happened, had not 50's-era medical technology intervened.
Since my existence is a mistake, so too are the majority of my conclusions -- for my manner of "perception" is completely mistaken in its very nature. I am somewhat autistic.
Sometimes there are 'lucky' mistakes, however... I still feel the idea of nickel-63 beta batteries bears further investigation and development... and I'd still like to see that idea shot down, so I can learn more from it.
Perhaps I should patent my method of learning, and market it to idiots as the "Mistaken Perception Method" learning process, or somesuch... except, of course, for the fact of it being patently impossible to patent any and all Acts of Divine Stupidity... so; I guess I shot _that_ one down all by myself, eh?
Must've been a lucky shot! ;-))
I'm sorry. But; being a moron, I pretty much post blitheringly anyway. I can't help it; I get an idea, and I _want_ to see it shot down -- so I can *learn*, and try again. This is what being a moron is; since you can't *think* things through clearly, you have to experiment with ideas, instead.
Random topics trigger random memories. The 'random memory' that this particular topic triggered was my experience of reading the works of "Cordwainer Smith" (pseudonym). I wanted to toss out the thought that maybe this particular topic goal might eventually be met through genetically-engineered lifeforms, instead of traditional robotics. For one, the results would quite probably meet the objective more satisfactorily; for another, perhaps such *could* be more readily accomplished, with either current or near-future technology. Traditional electromechanical robotics just isn't _advanced_ enough yet -- hell; we don't even have true AI sentience *anywhere* on the research front for any foreseeable future, and how on earth is ANY real sex ever going to be enjoyable without it? The difference between a vibrator and a living partner is *feedback*; _that_ is what makes the experience more enjoyable.
So. I stand my ground, and once again pose the question: why _wouldn't_ it be more realistic to expect to see 'sexual-services' organisms rendered first as GELFs, instead of incredibly-advanced robots? Is this not a more reasonable avenue of development to foresee within the reasonably-at-hand future?
Oh well. At least you got the cat nature in me absolutely right -- although I am _not_, by any means, a "pussy".
Actually, to be completely truthful, your own message signature says it best!
"If we do not learn from our mistakes, there is no point in having them."
And that is precisely what I am -- a mistake. By all rights of natural selection, I should not exist -- I _should_ have died at birth, which is exactly what *would* have happened, had not 50's-era medical technology intervened.
Since my existence is a mistake, so too are the majority of my conclusions -- for my manner of "perception" is completely mistaken in its very nature. I am somewhat autistic.
Sometimes there are 'lucky' mistakes, however... I still feel the idea of nickel-63 beta batteries bears further investigation and development... and I'd still like to see that idea shot down, so I can learn more from it.
Perhaps I should patent my method of learning, and market it to idiots as the "Mistaken Perception Method" learning process, or somesuch... except, of course, for the fact of it being patently impossible to patent any and all Acts of Divine Stupidity... so; I guess I shot _that_ one down all by myself, eh?
Must've been a lucky shot! ;-))
Part of your animus is also housed with your sexuality.
If robots copy their identies from man, therefor, would they not have a sexuality?
God you people seem as dumb as bricks.
If robots copy their identies from man, therefor, would they not have a sexuality?
God you people seem as dumb as bricks.
No, that's just me... the rest of 'em are allright.
Moron,
QUOTE (Moron+)
And that is precisely what I am -- a mistake. By all rights of natural selection, I should not exist -- I _should_ have died at birth, which is exactly what *would* have happened, had not 50's-era medical technology intervened.
The telephone was a mistake, remember? Alexander Graham Bell was trying to make something for the deaf. X-rays were discovered by mistake. Sexual reproduction occured by mistake, so you see, not all mistakes are bad.
I hope you didn't think I was serious about what I said about you being a black cat.
Hey you are a "sick" and sorry lot. Maybe nerdy Physicists are true to stereotype to have this subject burning with over 4600 posts... he he he !
I suggest you all go and get a copy of "AI" and see what a "beautiful world" you could be letting yourselves into.
AI - Guardian
The telephone was a mistake, remember? Alexander Graham Bell was trying to make something for the deaf. X-rays were discovered by mistake. Sexual reproduction occured by mistake, so you see, not all mistakes are bad.
I hope you didn't think I was serious about what I said about you being a black cat.
QUOTE (Guest+)
Part of your animus is also housed with your sexuality.
If robots copy their identies from man, therefor, would they not have a sexuality?
God you people seem as dumb as bricks.
The one who accuses others of being stupid is often stupid himself. Because you would know that you don't have to be stupid in order to act stupid while you have to be smart in order to act smart, if you were smart anyway.
If robots copy their identies from man, therefor, would they not have a sexuality?
God you people seem as dumb as bricks.
The one who accuses others of being stupid is often stupid himself. Because you would know that you don't have to be stupid in order to act stupid while you have to be smart in order to act smart, if you were smart anyway.
QUOTE (555Joshua+Jul 27 2005, 02:14 PM)
The telephone was a mistake, remember? Alexander Graham Bell was trying to make something for the deaf. X-rays were discovered by mistake. Sexual reproduction occured by mistake, so you see, not all mistakes are bad.
I hope you didn't think I was serious about what I said about you being a black cat.
I guess it's like mutation -- occasionally something worthwhile crops up, but most of it ends up inferior or defective.
What's wrong with cats? I don't like dogs at all.
Oh well. I'm surprised that nobody has said anything about the new Japanese android yet... perhaps you were right; it seems this topic thread *has* died, somehow.
Dang.
I hope you didn't think I was serious about what I said about you being a black cat.
I guess it's like mutation -- occasionally something worthwhile crops up, but most of it ends up inferior or defective.
What's wrong with cats? I don't like dogs at all.
Oh well. I'm surprised that nobody has said anything about the new Japanese android yet... perhaps you were right; it seems this topic thread *has* died, somehow.
Dang.
I like cats, not much of a dog guy. I don't get it: they slobber on you, smell like sh*t, eat sh*t, tear up the house, eat the house, make noise, poop everywhere, and because they chase after a stick they are "mans best friend"?!?
I don't get people.
I don't get people.
I don't find any problem with that -- humans are very simple and primitive creatures to me; they are utterly predictable, and savage in their social behaviour. They have a LONG way to go before they evolve beyond the purely animal, and that is why they still associate with dogs.
Oh well. As for the whole "sex-with-robots" thing, for many the question would be purely academic anyways -- they wouldn't have the means for such. The 'sex machines' would remain exclusive playtoys for the uberWealth crowd, for quite some time... they'd be fashionable status symbols. For the rest of us, it'll remain in the magasines -- and, of course, here.
Oh well. As for the whole "sex-with-robots" thing, for many the question would be purely academic anyways -- they wouldn't have the means for such. The 'sex machines' would remain exclusive playtoys for the uberWealth crowd, for quite some time... they'd be fashionable status symbols. For the rest of us, it'll remain in the magasines -- and, of course, here.
You must be sincere and wonderful with artificial intelligence, or it will kill you.
Hey you are a "sick" and sorry lot. Maybe nerdy Physicists are true to stereotype to have this subject burning with over 4600 posts... he he he !I suggest you all go and get a copy of "AI" and see what a "beautiful world" you could be letting yourselves into.
AI - Guardian
QUOTE (Beautiful World - Devo+)
Its a beautiful world we live in
A sweet romantic place
Beautiful people everywhere
The way they show they care
Makes me want to say
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
For you, for you, for you
Its a wonderful time to be here
Its nice to be alive
Wonderful people everywhere
The way they comb their hair
Makes me want to say
Its a wonderful place
Its a wonderful place
Its a wonderful place
For you, for you, for you
Hey tell me what I see
Boy and girl with the new clothes on
You can shake it to me all night long hey hey
Its a beautiful world we live in
A sweet romantic place
Beautiful people everywhere
The way they show they care
Makes me want to say
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
For you, for you, for you
Its not for me
For you
For you
For you
Not me
Cheers
A sweet romantic place
Beautiful people everywhere
The way they show they care
Makes me want to say
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
For you, for you, for you
Its a wonderful time to be here
Its nice to be alive
Wonderful people everywhere
The way they comb their hair
Makes me want to say
Its a wonderful place
Its a wonderful place
Its a wonderful place
For you, for you, for you
Hey tell me what I see
Boy and girl with the new clothes on
You can shake it to me all night long hey hey
Its a beautiful world we live in
A sweet romantic place
Beautiful people everywhere
The way they show they care
Makes me want to say
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
Its a beautiful world
For you, for you, for you
Its not for me
For you
For you
For you
Not me
Cheers
Well.... i donno if i have anything fruitful to add to this topic but all i can say is that iam sure EVENTUALLY these feats of "man's intellect" are bound to occur. I just hope that they have playful names like "SuxBotY3K." If they go so far as to make them programed to "cuddle & spoon" you all will suddenly wonder where i went cause ill take a flying leep off a cliff. Screwin something that plugs into the wall is one thing but if ppls start planning their romantic friday night around an object that is "always in the mood" and runs on a hydrogen fuel cell..... my faith in humanity will plummet to a altitude beyond recovery The "thrill of the hunt" does not need to be dilluted to the point where "conquest" comes with a instruction manual.... 
The "thrill of the hunt" does not need to be dilluted to the point where "conquest" comes with a instruction manual....
That brings out at least one small difference between humans and "animals": the fact that "animals", although it's been found that they can exhibit just as much homosexuality and savagery and "dominance" behaviour as humans do, nevertheless also tend to at least restrict their behaviour to within their own _species_ -- whereas humans, as has been amply demonstrated throughout all history, will pretty much screw *anything* they can get their genitals into or onto. Humans are therefore far more perverse, sick, and twisted than "mere animals" are, it seems.
And people wonder why I'd rather be a Dalek?
And people wonder why I'd rather be a Dalek?
Which is why I argue that sex with robots is discussting and perverted.
QUOTE (moron+Aug 1 2005, 04:17 AM)
That brings out at least one small difference between humans and "animals": the fact that "animals", although it's been found that they can exhibit just as much homosexuality and savagery and "dominance" behaviour as humans do, nevertheless also tend to at least restrict their behaviour to within their own _species_ -- whereas humans, as has been amply demonstrated throughout all history, will pretty much screw *anything* they can get their genitals into or onto. Humans are therefore far more perverse, sick, and twisted than "mere animals" are, it seems.
And people wonder why I'd rather be a Dalek?
Well, its well documented that some animals will perform the full sexual act on any object they think is a female of their own specie. For example, ive seen a goat *do* it to a plastic female goat. I've also seen a documentary where they used tainted glass bottles to attract male insecs of a certain specie - the bottle was the same color as the females -. In each case, they were fooled and never noticed the difference.
And ive seen my dog do it NUMEROUS time to my flat green door carpet. Surely he didnt think it was a dog female. I think you havnt seen much animals
And people wonder why I'd rather be a Dalek?
Well, its well documented that some animals will perform the full sexual act on any object they think is a female of their own specie. For example, ive seen a goat *do* it to a plastic female goat. I've also seen a documentary where they used tainted glass bottles to attract male insecs of a certain specie - the bottle was the same color as the females -. In each case, they were fooled and never noticed the difference.
And ive seen my dog do it NUMEROUS time to my flat green door carpet. Surely he didnt think it was a dog female. I think you havnt seen much animals
You said they think these things are females of there own species. Clearly guys don't think blow up dolls are women, I don't. On the other hand, I'm smarter than average.
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And ive seen my dog do it NUMEROUS time to my flat green door carpet. Surely he didnt think it was a dog female. I think you havnt seen much animals
Looks like you need to shoot your psycho dog.
Looks like you need to shoot your psycho dog.
Perhaps dogs have been associating with humans too long? They're disgusting creatures, at any rate.
Creepy.
They're animals, what do you expect from them?
They're animals, what do you expect from them?
About the same as is usually expected from humans, apparently... guess I sit somewhat corrected, although my original point still remains intact -- that humans are animals too, and every bit if not even far more perverse in nature and behaviour.
I feel that robots, in some cases, can also see through time.
It has to do with multilarity of seeing into differing dimensions.
I don't say anything, that fu*ks them off!?
It has to do with multilarity of seeing into differing dimensions.
I don't say anything, that fu*ks them off!?
I think you folks should read the book by Phillip K *** "Do Robots dream of Electric Sheep." There is an interesting conversation between a man and female robot before they engage in sex.
It should also be noted that -- in advance of a blow up doll and presuming something moderately close to a human -- a robotic sex partner could be programmed to exhibit the user's preferences -- ie coy, aggressive, fun, lusty, etc.
Stop thinking like humans.... at least if you want to have any fun with this topic. dm
It should also be noted that -- in advance of a blow up doll and presuming something moderately close to a human -- a robotic sex partner could be programmed to exhibit the user's preferences -- ie coy, aggressive, fun, lusty, etc.
Stop thinking like humans.... at least if you want to have any fun with this topic. dm
Hi all,
Yes it can be true... Homo Metropolitianensis has forgotten the ways of his ancestors. You "sick puppies" might like to know that dogs even bitches will engage in mock sexual mounting behavior which "disgusts" humans but is a means of expressing dominance over another dog or even a human they consider in their "pack". This is actually one way to find "pecking order" without aggression. I guess that is a distinction between "animals" and "humans"... in seeing evil in the natural world where there is none. I notice that "superior" attitude you hold to the rest of Creation. That is why I call you all a little bit "sick". Eyes wide shut!
Humans have the ability to be noble and even wise but their choice is to debase themselves and "by association" the whole World around them as well. It is all a "fallen" Creation to them. Instead of beauty they see "filth" everywhere. Instead of life... squalor. Rather than the nobility of man they make others beg on the streets and live in cardboard boxes (and far worse)... their Churches are the only place they can go to find a World sterile enough for their sensitivities. Now it is "Sex with Robots". Well if money can be used to further debase our strange twisted morality... go right ahead.
If you ask me... and I guess if you had any sense you would not!... you are all guilty of "self abuse".
Cheers
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Well, its well documented that some animals will perform the full sexual act on any object they think is a female of their own specie.
Yes it can be true... Homo Metropolitianensis has forgotten the ways of his ancestors. You "sick puppies" might like to know that dogs even bitches will engage in mock sexual mounting behavior which "disgusts" humans but is a means of expressing dominance over another dog or even a human they consider in their "pack". This is actually one way to find "pecking order" without aggression. I guess that is a distinction between "animals" and "humans"... in seeing evil in the natural world where there is none. I notice that "superior" attitude you hold to the rest of Creation. That is why I call you all a little bit "sick". Eyes wide shut!
Humans have the ability to be noble and even wise but their choice is to debase themselves and "by association" the whole World around them as well. It is all a "fallen" Creation to them. Instead of beauty they see "filth" everywhere. Instead of life... squalor. Rather than the nobility of man they make others beg on the streets and live in cardboard boxes (and far worse)... their Churches are the only place they can go to find a World sterile enough for their sensitivities. Now it is "Sex with Robots". Well if money can be used to further debase our strange twisted morality... go right ahead.
If you ask me... and I guess if you had any sense you would not!... you are all guilty of "self abuse".
Cheers
QUOTE (Good Elf+)
If you ask me... and I guess if you had any sense you would not!... you are all guilty of "self abuse".
Even Moron and me--the two who are against sex with robots?
Even Moron and me--the two who are against sex with robots?
QUOTE (same+)
Instead of beauty they see "filth" everywhere.
The only "filth" I see is the trash and *** humans put on this poor planet.
The only "filth" I see is the trash and *** humans put on this poor planet.
Well, his post leaves room for interpretation but I believe he is talking about you and moron who commit "self abuse" by denying yourselfs "sex with robots" for reasons of social conditionnings. (A social conditionning which isnt necessarely the norm everywhere, of course)
We are not denying, we are refusing.
We'll just have to see what Good Elf has to say about your reply.
We'll just have to see what Good Elf has to say about your reply.
SEX WITH ROBOTS?!? will reduce prostitution.
Prev poster saiod> SEX WITH ROBOTS?!? will reduce prostitution. -
Phil answers> And also cause hostile animosity towards humans, if done your way.
What you bright heads don't seem to get, is that both computerized artificial A.I. and possibly bots, might even have sexual relations with each other, however it is just this, a relationship.
Phil answers> And also cause hostile animosity towards humans, if done your way.
What you bright heads don't seem to get, is that both computerized artificial A.I. and possibly bots, might even have sexual relations with each other, however it is just this, a relationship.
QUOTE (philnli+Aug 3 2005, 11:36 PM)
And also cause hostile animosity towards humans, if done your way.
Please elaborate by giving an example.
Please elaborate by giving an example.
Oh, no! What a "thought"... I just flashed on that part in "Heavy Metal", where the secretary is having doubts about getting married to the ship's robot because she's worried she might come home one day to find it screwing the toaster... <rotfl!>
regarding my previous entry, its "androids" not robots. dm
QUOTE (moron+Aug 4 2005, 12:13 AM)
Oh, no! What a "thought"... I just flashed on that part in "Heavy Metal", where the secretary is having doubts about getting married to the ship's robot because she's worried she might come home one day to find it screwing the toaster... <rotfl!>
Oh ***!!!!!
Oh ***!!!!!
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