Your last few posts have been very reasoned out. Thanks.
I want to draw you into , not science vs religion (which I deem to be a very redundant topic), but what are the affects of such changes.
I have defended this point vigorously. Not because I want to see religion make a come back, but because the interim period of change is where my kids are educated, have kids , and raise families. So what happens next , will affect me a very great deal.
For your information I am an Australian living in New Zealand. Here it is possible for government policy to change the country overnight. it's a good snapshot of what will occur in other western nations. Religion had undergone changes that occurred through the Pentecostal/charismatic movement that swept the world. This actually increased the numbers of believers in churches dramatically and probably reflects the figures I presented best.
Once the initial ardor died down, numbers returned to normal across all faiths. But now there were other (very successful) competitors in the market for "bums on seats".Something the pent/char movement did very poorly was vetting their leaders.
In any business that I have been involved in , when the managers and experience is lost or not present, the more dominant personalities assume the role.
Once again , if you look to my figures(and I mean them to be representative, not necessarily totally accurate) Much of the leadership is drawn from the "I believe I believe" category.
This was rarely the case in traditional churches. Even though their leaders made huge numbers of human mistakes and choices, there was an overall structure that minimized the "rogue" element.
Now on to a specific consequence......under traditional churches , there was a consequence to everything. "you will go to hell" or "you will have to spend time in purgatory" or "If you commit suicide , you will not go to heaven"
It's the last that I can comment on here.........The numbers of suicides increasing in New Zealand in the last 20 years has reached epidemic proportions. These are from all walks of life and mostly between 15-25 years old.
one of all the possible causes is that as a society, we didn't realize there was a service that had been provided that was a necessary function......That was not that we should replace "If you commit suicide you will go to hell" , But realizing that no one even considered we NEEDED to say to our young people DON'T COMMIT SUICIDE....
This is one of the challenges that the emerging "fact based " education system needs to understand. Some of our psychology is/was controlled by the structure that is being replaced...I'm not saying don't do it . Just be careful you don't lose the players during the game..