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Bereaver
Ok, first I will say that I am most likely NOT the smartest person here sooooo.......
I am sorry if this turns out to be completely stupid and impossibly true.

Again... please don't hate me too much, I would love to return here and add to my brain power.

*edit*re-read I'm afraid to post haha. ok posting.

here goes....


Gravity? What causes gravity? Is it ok for me to give it a basic outline and say "attraction between mass"?

Lets say.... you have an object that does "somehow" reach the speed of light.

With the increase of speed there is an increase in mass, is this correct?

Sooo this object broke the speed of light.. then shouldn't there not only be an increase in mass but also an increase in gravity?

Since we know that space doesn't change gravity relatively then.......

Could it be possible that what we see in the sky to be a black hole could be the place where an object broke
the speed of light creating a massive increase mass, that caused a massive increase in gravity which pulled everything around it inside?

A lot of people think that a black hole could be the implosion of a planet, but doesn't the black hole appear
to have an entrance area? If it was imploded wouldn't it be an all around entrance?

It does appear to have a funnel shape.



2nd part


Now lets go to time...... If it's possible to break the time/space barrier with speed...

Then this could explain the reason why the black hole stops and doesn't appear to be endless.

If it stops in time or goes back in time it won't keep going.




Please guys, go easy on me.

Your feeble minded friend~

~James Mayberry
Bishadi

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Ok, first I will say that I am most likely NOT the smartest person here sooooo.......
I am sorry if this turns out to be completely stupid and impossibly true.

Again... please don't hate me too much, I would love to return here and add to my brain power.

*edit*re-read I'm afraid to post haha. ok posting.

here goes....
Well first you are on a thread/format within another guys theory and he is not one who will address ‘good’ questions unless you follow his work.

i.e… he deleted my questions without even a comment…… a weak moment


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Ok, first I will say that I am most likely NOT the smartest person here sooooo.......
I am sorry if this turns out to be completely stupid and impossibly true.

Again... please don't hate me too much, I would love to return here and add to my brain power.

*edit*re-read I'm afraid to post haha. ok posting.

here goes....
Well first you are on a thread/format within another guys theory and he is not one who will address ‘good’ questions unless you follow his work.

i.e… he deleted my questions without even a comment…… a weak moment


Gravity? What causes gravity? Is it ok for me to give it a basic outline and say "attraction between mass"?
entangled energy between structures. See casimir/poulder/van der waals

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Lets say.... you have an object that does "somehow" reach the speed of light.

With the increase of speed there is an increase in mass, is this correct?

Sooo this object broke the speed of light.. then shouldn't there not only be an increase in mass but also an increase in gravity?
Now your thinking… as that mass has that vast momentum, it is crossing other energy and being affected by these fields and gaining associated energy……

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Lets say.... you have an object that does "somehow" reach the speed of light.

With the increase of speed there is an increase in mass, is this correct?

Sooo this object broke the speed of light.. then shouldn't there not only be an increase in mass but also an increase in gravity?
Now your thinking… as that mass has that vast momentum, it is crossing other energy and being affected by these fields and gaining associated energy……

Since we know that space doesn't change gravity relatively then.......

Could it be possible that what we see in the sky to be a black hole could be the place where an object broke
the speed of light creating a massive increase mass, that caused a massive increase in gravity which pulled everything around it inside?
First black holes are not real…. As proposed in current Virial Theorem.


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A lot of people think that a black hole could be the implosion of a planet, but doesn't the black hole appear
to have an entrance area? If it was imploded wouldn't it be an all around entrance? 
Great observation….. nice work!

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A lot of people think that a black hole could be the implosion of a planet, but doesn't the black hole appear
to have an entrance area? If it was imploded wouldn't it be an all around entrance? 
Great observation….. nice work!

It does appear to have a funnel shape.
Like a tidy bowl or a hurricane…… and in each case energy is associated causing the effect to mass…. But mass don’t go anywhere ‘to another dimension’ in some worm hole to some other place……

You are thinking and it is good to see you are checking and asking questions…..
Bereaver
Thanks for the reply. smile.gif

About the black hole I'm trying to imply its not a black hole but it is the point at which the object could have broke the speed of light causing an increase in gravity to suck things in. I don't believe in the worm hole either.

Anyways, I will read this Virial Theorem, cause I am completely oblivious of it.
Bishadi
QUOTE (Bereaver+Feb 9 2008, 02:44 PM)
Thanks for the reply. smile.gif

About the black hole I'm trying to imply its not a black hole but it is the point at which the object could have broke the speed of light causing an increase in gravity to suck things in. I don't believe in the worm hole either.

Anyways, I will read this Virial Theorem, cause I am completely oblivious of it.

Nothing like a good person, doing homework simply to understand...

:>:>:>:>

One item I fogot.... light does not propagate thru 'empty' space..

meaning em exchanges between mass, predetermined..... not at a speed.

Mass has momentum by energy .... not that energy has momentum.

Big item to observe when doing your reading
Wrecked
Hi
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Gravity? What causes gravity? Is it ok for me to give it a basic outline and say "attraction between mass"?

Gravity is the shape of space. Massive objects curve the space around them. The earth is falling toward the sun thru it s curved space but every time it falls a certain distance the curve of the sun has droped that much keeping us at the same distance.

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Lets say.... you have an object that does "somehow" reach the speed of light.

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We just can't say that because E=Mc2

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With the increase of speed there is an increase in mass, is this correct?

Sooo this object broke the speed of light.. then shouldn't there not only be an  increase in mass but also an increase in gravity?

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The mass of a object expands yes. but the object dose not create more mass. same original amount of matter yet i belive more protons are created or just get heavier While moving.

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Since we know that space doesn't change gravity relatively then.......

Could it be possible that what we see in the sky to be a black hole could be the place where an object broke
the speed of light creating a massive increase mass, that caused a massive increase in gravity which pulled everything around it inside?

Answer
No see Answer 1

Question
A lot of people think that a black hole could be the implosion of a planet, but doesn't the black hole appear
to have an entrance area?  If it was imploded wouldn't it be an all around entrance?

It does appear to have a funnel shape.

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Everything going in a black hole dose not need to trevel a the speed of light, though things travel "close to"it.  a black hole gravities curve becomes a point, a singularity.Like the cone or funnel. anything traveling down one side like light gets stuck. Sort of like the fat particle and skinny singularity. Also no all around entrance. When working with gravity its best to look at it in 2 demensions since gravity propagates at a right angle.

2nd part

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Now lets go to time...... If it's possible to break the time/space barrier with speed...

Answer
Again Answer one. You cannot beat light in a fair race.

Then this could explain the reason why the black hole stops and doesn't appear to be endless.

Answer
A black hole ends at the point of collapse, the singularity, Which happens to be infinite .Remember infinite is infinite even when its infinitey small

If it stops in time or goes back in time it won't keep going.

Answer
Space and time  are space time, they are one. so no


Hope this helps
Sorry hope I did the quote thing right,I'm Still new
Bishadi
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Now lets go to time...... If it's possible to break the time/space barrier with speed...
Was going to reply before golf but it appears you already know it all... meaing if you understood gravity you would not have asked about time.

Good luck as all you did was repeat most of the same mess, anyone can read by googling...

remember truth does not bend, nor does space.....
Bereaver
Hehehe Wrecked, I think you should be more open minded.

You are binding yourself to other rules aka being stuck inside the box.

I'm sure there are people that will have the same view as me and other people will have the same view as you because simply it's not 100% provable through any theory/mathematical equation.

By putting this theory up I am outside the box, like I said, it's just an idea.

We don't have the technology or the math that another universe could have possibly had to figure out how to reach the speed of light. Instantly assuming we are the most advanced in the universe is quite ignorant.

So don't bind yourself to rules that have already been made, but still use the rules as basic guide lines.

I mean hey, you don't think all of our current theories are bound by previous rules? Nah, they were all pretty much outside the box thoughts sometime or another.

But thanks so much for your comments, I learned so much about the rules through your post and I respect that soooo much.

But... again, I'm usually an outside of the box type of person. biggrin.gif

Great to know I'm learning.
Bishadi

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Hehehe Wrecked, I think you should be more open minded.
I am if any… but that black hole and bending space stuff is old…. Real old…. And I did enjoy your observations as unique and then to understand what you were saying then you also recognized this ‘event horizon’ could not be flat.

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Hehehe Wrecked, I think you should be more open minded.
I am if any… but that black hole and bending space stuff is old…. Real old…. And I did enjoy your observations as unique and then to understand what you were saying then you also recognized this ‘event horizon’ could not be flat.

By putting this theory up I am outside the box, like I said, it's just an idea.
Always enjoy thinkers….

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We don't have the technology or the math that another universe could have possibly had to figure out how to reach the speed of light. Instantly assuming we are the most advanced in the universe is quite ignorant.
That is what I say about the speed of light….. light does not go thru empty space… that is ‘in the box’ rational….. meaning because of entropy and planck not to mention basic sense…. No one recognizes the each exchange is predetermined at the actual exchange of energy (light) between mass or t<0.

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We don't have the technology or the math that another universe could have possibly had to figure out how to reach the speed of light. Instantly assuming we are the most advanced in the universe is quite ignorant.
That is what I say about the speed of light….. light does not go thru empty space… that is ‘in the box’ rational….. meaning because of entropy and planck not to mention basic sense…. No one recognizes the each exchange is predetermined at the actual exchange of energy (light) between mass or t<0.

So don't bind yourself to rules that have already been made, but still use the rules as basic guide lines. 
Thanks for the support…..
barakn
Bereaver,

You're better off ignoring Bishadi and Wrecked - they have no idea what they are talking about.
Bereaver
Hahaha, yeah maybe Barakn.

But without arguments science would have never been started or would be seriously behind. We must divide ourselves to reach every corner of the universe, it is that big. smile.gif We all know it. What a better way of doing this than arguing with pride and passion.

And Bishadi, by "event horizon" you are meaning the point of the black hole?
Has an implosion every been recorded?



Ok, so time for me to read some other thread's and see whats going on.


Thanks everyone, and thank you mods for letting me leave my topic here.
Bereaver
Ohhh, I also have another theory/idea I would like to push out into the open.

Soooo again, take it easy on me. It is mainly for questions to improve my knowledge and give out some possibly new information if well... lol if it is possible?
This one, btw, is even more worse than my first one.


Magnetism, Electricity, and Data.


Magnetism can be controlled my electricity correct?

Can it be done vice-versa? (no clue)

Electricity has the ability to carry data.

Is it possible to use a computer system to route magnetism/electricity through and object? I don't think it is possible, but I'm not sure.

The reason I ask these questions...

Lets say you have a computer that could do it, and you also had a big 5'x5' steel block in front of you. You could route the magnetism to create negative and positive points throughout the block, with enough electricity to power the magnetism it could possibly make any design you wanted. Engine blocks, ladders, bolts...????

The only thing is if its possible to combine all three. Maybe even requiring to put 100 or more (sorry I don't know what to call this word) of the things that put the electricity/magnetism into this object to get the correct distribution and have step one starting from one corner and moving to the other side.

Anyway, I don't know. Just an Idea I had when I was younger. Btw, I guess I'm still kinda young. 22 at the moment. Soooo haha, again, please be easy on me.

Thanks smile.gif

~James Mayberry
Bishadi
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Is it possible to use a computer system to route magnetism/electricity through and object? I don't think it is possible, but I'm not sure.


Look up polaritonics.

This is the next form of electric/light/mass ......

Memory is similar, where the glial retain a memory and return/support a value.

It's a light thing
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