31st March 2005 - 08:58 AM
There's lots of speculation on how far we should take this "indeterminate state" thing - if you cannot observe it, it has no state. In short, the argument is that anything that is immediately outside of my field of vision does not exist. Literally. Likewise, state only comes to finalization just as it is observed - also known as "late binding", and "JIT Compiling". You're saying that the universe is written in Java, for chrissakes... no wonder Time moves so slow. And it's written by people who couldn't handle VB!
Sorry, I couldn't resist. I had ya going, though, I know it. On the good side, it means that Black Holes are actually just a garbage collection routine for boneheads who cannot manage their pointers. Any "information loss" actually happened a long time before the stuff fell in... that should make Hawking happy, at least.
Someone earlier wrote,
"The appearance of so called "ghosts" may also be some temporal barrier penetration which is disturbed by observation. "
Not likely. There's plenty of anecdotle experience where the "appearance" survives observation in a sustained fashion... including but not limited to real interaction.
Not wanting to change this topic to ghost stories, but there's an easier solution that's much more consistent. And most importantly, it explains something.
Pick your favorite camera ghost - you know, five people in a room, noone sees anything. Some jerk takes a photo, and there's this ghost-fog-thing in the picture. Someone chases one down with an EMF detector and shoots a roll, bang - they get it on film exactly as predicted, a nice white fog with a defined depth - sometimes in front of an object, sometimes partially behind. For sake of argument, let's pretend that at least one of these photos is legit. Let's see what must be true for our "white fog ghost" to happen on film, when noone in the room can see it.
a) Film works because of emulsions that are photosensitive. Each emulsion tends to be sensitive to a specific color. Our "ghost"... is.... (drumroll) white. I don't care what it is, but it's emitting a wide spectrum. The result on the film demands it.
b ) Film works because photons hit it. Either in a dark area with no flash, or a bright area - the "ghost" will wash-out (overexpose) the region of film that it hits. It's a bright little thing, isn't it...
c) It's really bright, and tossing out a big pile of visible frequencies. And, we cannot see it. Yeah, right... or no, maybe we can't. We have proof (the film) that the photons are emitted. What we don't know is the time interval
that they were emitted. You can pump a million photons into our film over the course of an hour like the astro-geeks do, or you can pump a million photons over a millisecond. Assuming nothing melts, the result on the film will be the same... it is effectively a photon counter as far as we're concerned, and nothing more. So, why don't we see them? It's a fast period. On for a zillisecond, off for... who knows, one second, one hour, whatever. As we suddenly remember the Movie Theater trick of subliminal advertising, a good duty cycle would do a nice job of making photons appear on film without us "seeing" them.
d) So, let's pretend that's the case. Of course, physiologists will tell us that we *do* in fact see them - but we do not perceive them consciously or some other blather... instead, we're left wanting popcorn, a coke, and to buy more movie tickets. For ghost stories. We'll walk into a basement of an old house - nice and haunted with these fast-blinky things that might be wafting around - and we'll "feel" lots of motion or activity around us, but not "see" it. "There's something down here."
e) On the good side, this can be easily demonstrated (or disproven). A real short dutycycle with a real wide spectrum means you've got one *very* big spike to look for. Hell, even I could probably find it. If you're really bored, grab some used fiber test equip (the kind you'd use to locate defects) and make some mods, and you can probably track position in real time.
f) Once that's done, it's time for torture. I'm really surprised noone has ever tried any of this, it's *so* obvious. Is there a static field around the ghost that makes your arm-hair stand up? GET A BALLOON, rub it on your head, and stick it in your ghost. If it works on my cat, it'll work on this ghost - and probably with the same result. Is there a "cold spot"? Ooo! Endothermic, it wants heat! Two words: HAIR DRYER. Never been done, which is sad. Just sucking it through a hair dryer is only one use, though - whatever this "ghost" is, it has proximity. It's also tracking along with our planet, which would take a *lot* of effort. OTOH, it'd make perfect sense if it was in fact *dragged* along by our planet just like the rest of us, because it is subject to gravity. Ooo! Mass! And, Momentum. Lets turn our hairdryer around, and see if we can "blow" it around the room. It might work, it might not - and how much it'd work would give us a mild indicator of density. Or at least, density when it's "in view", spitting photons at us.
Oh well, back to our regularly scheduled topic...