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Horta
A rhesus macaque escapes and is at large since 2008. He has managed to avoid capture. He has been seen but never caught yet. Even an expert can not catch him. This monkey has proved that he can equal any human when it comes to escape and evasion. This monkey is free to live in the Tampa Bay area. The below link is a very interesting article.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36013254/ns/to...ts_and_animals/

I hope you all enjoy this interesting article.
boit
interesting indeed. why do they want to capture this otherwise free primate and make a slave out of him? let's start a fund drive for an air ticket for asia where monkeys are fully emancipated.
keith*
They'll have to catch the legend first.

"...All the Federales say
They could have had him any day
They only let him slip away
Out of kindness, I suppose..."

--Townes van Zand
boit
It is the plan to hand him over to a legal pet owner that made me think their intention isn't that noble. The greatest kindness will be to let him among his own kind, in the wild, not in captivity where he must have actually escaped. Have we brought a primate psychologist on board yet? This cousin isn't a hormon crazed adolescent by any chance, or isn't he? blink.gif
Horta
No he is definitely an adult. He seems to have his escape and evasion skills down. In "Shadows Of Forgotten Ancestors" Carl Sagan does show how the genes in various monkeys and chimps can lean towards the knowledge of "Guerrilla warfare". Also this monkey does have the advantage of "Swimming among the masses". There are people in the St Pete area that sides with the monkey and if they see him they do not report him.

As this monkey stays at large he adds on more people who side with him. biggrin.gif
Kaeru
QUOTE (boit+Mar 26 2010, 02:48 AM)
The greatest kindness will be to let him among his own kind, in the wild, not in captivity where he must have actually escaped.

I disagree. If he was born in captivity he doesn't have the skills at this age to survive the wild.

Especially without a troop to help. sad.gif "Among his own kind" doesn't mean he would be welcomed.
boit
QUOTE (Kaeru+Mar 30 2010, 12:34 AM)
I disagree. If he was born in captivity he doesn't have the skills at this age to survive the wild.

Especially without a troop to help. sad.gif "Among his own kind" doesn't mean he would be welcomed.

Oops, didn't consider that angle. But as they say if you can survive in the streets of america cities you can survive anywhere, maybe it can apply to this close relative. While this one is being chased by the police, his brother in thailand is assisting the police in their beat. It is a PR stunt so rumours go. the maqaque is in police attire though i could not tell the rank.
Kaeru
Accepted, but having grown up in the streets would not prepare you for the poisons that look good to eat in the jungle.

Adaptability and the power to learn to teach your children not to eat from the plant your cousin died from is our gift from 'Eden' I think. It takes more than a village. laugh.gif
Capracus
QUOTE (Horta+Mar 25 2010, 02:06 AM)
A rhesus macaque escapes and is at large since 2008. He has managed to avoid capture. He has been seen but never caught yet. Even an expert can not catch him. This monkey has proved that he can equal any human when it comes to escape and evasion. This monkey is free to live in the Tampa Bay area. The below link is a very interesting article.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36013254/ns/to...ts_and_animals/

I hope you all enjoy this interesting article.

A couple of years ago there was a chimpanzee that escaped from an exotic animal compound a couple of miles from my home. Unlike the macaque in urban Tampa, this chimp escaped into a national forest where its usual fare of human supplied monkey chow, or anything like it was absent. The lack of familiar food, coupled with rattlesnakes and mountain lions, put Moe the chimp's chances of survival in doubt. Over the following months there were numerous purported sightings of Moe, some as far as 30 miles from his point of escape, but most, if not all, were likely sightings of other animals such as raccoons or small bears. Experts believe Moe is likely dead.
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_10550934
Horta
This monkey is not in the wild but living in the Tampa St. Pete area. There is a big difference between the asphalt jungle and the wild jungle. This monkey is familiar with the world of humans so he can and is doing very well. He is free and enjoying himself. He could never be put in the wild because monkeys, chimps, apes and other primates like us learn from parents and the rest of the group. Their survival skills are not instinctual like lizards for example. At his age it is far too late to be put back into the wild. This monkey would hate to be re-captured so it is best just the way things are right now. He is free but not in the wild. There are books on city survival and hiding in the city. The famous books on both survival in the wilderness and city survival written by "Lofty Wisemen" of the British Special Forces tells how to keep on the move and escape capture at the same time procure food and if necessary fight an enemy. Well this monkey is doing very well but with out the aggressive part. His escape and evasion is more peaceful but like any Guerrilla warrior he is "swimming among the masses". This tactic is essential to survival.

In the book "Shadows Of Forgotten Ancestors" Sagan explains why you can not put a monkey who grew up in the world of man back into the wild. But Sagan also explains how a primate cousin of ours can do escape and evasion as well as the best trained Marines. It is in the genes. Over the millions of years of evolution the primate that is better at hunting skills, hiding skills and other necessary soldiering skills is the one who survives long enough to make many offspring and therefore pass this valuable gene down. The one who is bad at these skills is killed off and hence no offspring. Sagan of course says it better than I but that is the gist.
Matador
+1 leave the poor monkey alone smile.gif
Dr_Zinj
If he isn't diseased, then he shouldn't be much of a threat.
light in the tunnel
QUOTE (Dr_Zinj+May 12 2010, 12:24 PM)
If he isn't diseased, then he shouldn't be much of a threat.

I wonder what he eats. I have heard that free monkeys living in Asian cities steal food, even by invading kitchens. If this monkey is eating trash, it could be a blessing or a curse, depending on the age and quality of the refuse. Also, what is he doing for social contact? If he doesn't have any familiar friends, human or otherwise, he might be running around in a state of fight or flight constantly until he finds some secluded place to sit alone. Obviously he's not going to find any monkey friends running free in the city and what are the chances he's going to find a human that appears sympathetic enough to him to approach for friendship. Curious George is not exactly reality.
Maddscientist101
Until this monkey learns to type and write shakespheare I won't be impressed...
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