Dinosaur killer may have struck oil
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/200.../07/2238200.htm
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The dinosaur-killing Chicxulub meteor might have ignited an oilfield rather than forests when it slammed into the Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago, say geologists.
Smoke-related particles found in sediments formed at the time of the impact are strikingly similar to those created by modern high-temperature coal and oil burning, as opposed to forest fires, says Professor Simon Brassell of Indiana University.
Smoke-related particles found in sediments formed at the time of the impact are strikingly similar to those created by modern high-temperature coal and oil burning, as opposed to forest fires, says Professor Simon Brassell of Indiana University.
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| The dinosaur-killing Chicxulub meteor might have ignited an oilfield rather than forests when it slammed into the Gulf of Mexico 65 million years ago, say geologists. Smoke-related particles found in sediments formed at the time of the impact are strikingly similar to those created by modern high-temperature coal and oil burning, as opposed to forest fires, says Professor Simon Brassell of Indiana University. |
What's more, Wolbach says, it has never been certain that the fires were global, as some have suggested.
For one thing, there has never been a lot of fossil charcoal found from that time, which would be expected if there had been so much vegetation burning.
"There isn't enough charcoal to account for that," says Brassell.
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What he and his colleagues have found instead are particles called cenospheres, which resemble the sooty output of industrial coal and oil burning, he says.
When cenospheres are found, they are usually associated with what's called fly ash, which is man-made.
"In many places the presence of such material is taken as evidence as the presence of human activities," says Brassell.
And since the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary is about 65 million years too early for humans and their coal-fired Industrial Revolution, something else had to be burning fossil fuels.
When cenospheres are found, they are usually associated with what's called fly ash, which is man-made.
"In many places the presence of such material is taken as evidence as the presence of human activities," says Brassell.
And since the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary is about 65 million years too early for humans and their coal-fired Industrial Revolution, something else had to be burning fossil fuels.
At this event, no only did animals perish but many sea creatures as well became extinct
I have seen estimates of 98% of all LIFE became extinct
Then came an Ice Age...
Mmmmh modern man has released an equivalent amount of oil into the environment
and most probably by magnitudes more.
Maybe this has all happened before.
Ice Ages are cold comfort.
Nice research
>Maybe this has all happened before.
Comes round, goes round.
You are correct (this time)
There will be another Life extinction event this rock gets hit regularly
(cosmic time scale)
Comes round, goes round.
You are correct (this time)
There will be another Life extinction event this rock gets hit regularly
(cosmic time scale)
No, the meteorite is only the trigger
The OIL release into the environment and its consequences is the real issue
Earthlings have taken the place of the meteorite
they have released untold amounts of oil into the environment
and the key here is the oil covering the sea.... and water disruption, gas diffusion disruption leading to a thermal breakdown
then an Ice Age
this process and the prognosis in now well evidenced, it is no longer theoretical, it has happened.
The OIL release into the environment and its consequences is the real issue
Earthlings have taken the place of the meteorite
they have released untold amounts of oil into the environment
and the key here is the oil covering the sea.... and water disruption, gas diffusion disruption leading to a thermal breakdown
then an Ice Age
this process and the prognosis in now well evidenced, it is no longer theoretical, it has happened.
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No, the meteorite is only the trigger
The OIL release into the environment and its consequences is the real issue
Earthlings have taken the place of the meteorite
they have released untold amounts of oil into the environment
and the key here is the oil covering the sea.... and water disruption, gas diffusion disruption leading to a thermal breakdown
then an Ice Age
this process and the prognosis in now well evidenced, it is no longer theoretical, it has happened.
Obviously Zarkov is unaware that oil deposits have been seeping into the oceans naturally for millions of years - no humans involved. Nature can handle it.
The OIL release into the environment and its consequences is the real issue
Earthlings have taken the place of the meteorite
they have released untold amounts of oil into the environment
and the key here is the oil covering the sea.... and water disruption, gas diffusion disruption leading to a thermal breakdown
then an Ice Age
this process and the prognosis in now well evidenced, it is no longer theoretical, it has happened.
Obviously Zarkov is unaware that oil deposits have been seeping into the oceans naturally for millions of years - no humans involved. Nature can handle it.
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oil deposits have been seeping into the oceans naturally for millions of years
a seep in some area and a flood are not equatable
I find the logic a bit short.
We know cenospheres only from oil fires "hence" cenospheres were then produced from burning oil deposits...
Thinking and experimenting a bit will probably enable to create cenospheres from plants on Earth's surface, using the right combination of pressure and temperature. Geologists have already found so many minerals that form only at meteorite impact sites!
Also, some moons are full of hydrocarbons. Why should this meteorite have been just rocky?
Maybe specialists have better reasons than were exposed in the general press.
We know cenospheres only from oil fires "hence" cenospheres were then produced from burning oil deposits...
Thinking and experimenting a bit will probably enable to create cenospheres from plants on Earth's surface, using the right combination of pressure and temperature. Geologists have already found so many minerals that form only at meteorite impact sites!
Also, some moons are full of hydrocarbons. Why should this meteorite have been just rocky?
Maybe specialists have better reasons than were exposed in the general press.
Hey, that link to the SLB site, it's Schlumberger!
Do not work at Schlumberger. They purposely destroy any couple that may form between employees, and get help from the French secret services (in France) for that.
Do not work at Schlumberger. They purposely destroy any couple that may form between employees, and get help from the French secret services (in France) for that.
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Lighter oils evaporate in air
from Paul H's linkLOL, wonder where they go after that.... err back onto the sea........ much like dew
Earthling logic to make a fallacy is rather ludicrous
Consider that the extinction of the dinosaur, the Ice Age, and the oil on earth resulted from the same cause. The changes were the result of the earth being struck by oil asteroids. This is the same as we see today with water asteroids striking the earth all the time. The oil darken the earth and later rained down and sank into the ground.
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Consider that the extinction of the dinosaur, the Ice Age, and the oil on earth resulted from the same cause. The changes were the result of the earth being struck by oil asteroids. This is the same as we see today with water asteroids striking the earth all the time. The oil darken the earth and later rained down and sank into the ground.
Capracus
The idea is presented is not that oil was a part of the formation of the earth but that it rained on the earth later.
It should also be considered that water may not have been part of the formation process but it too was deposited later.
I see nothing that prohibits water or oil from having a basic formation the same we find other bodies in space to be made of ice, water, CO2 etc…
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Abiogenic petroleum origin.
The idea is presented is not that oil was a part of the formation of the earth but that it rained on the earth later.
It should also be considered that water may not have been part of the formation process but it too was deposited later.
I see nothing that prohibits water or oil from having a basic formation the same we find other bodies in space to be made of ice, water, CO2 etc…
QUOTE (tlocity+Sep 2 2008, 04:04 AM)
Consider that the extinction of the dinosaur, the Ice Age, and the oil on earth resulted from the same cause. The changes were the result of the earth being struck by oil asteroids.
Did you fall to earth on a cretin asteroid?
Did you fall to earth on a cretin asteroid?
There's a controversial theory that oil forms spontaneously from rocks, and isn't necessarily just "dead-dinosaur-goo". Volcanoes routinely emit methane when they erupt, and methane is a precursor to denser petrochemicals.
If this "abiotic petroleum" theory is correct, then the oil we've found on earth is the tip of the iceberg (sorry about the mixed-metaphor). There's be plenty of oil to last centuries (whether that's a good idea for the environment or not is another matter).
Something else to consider, back during the dinosaur era, the earth's atmosphere had more oxygen in it, which was one reason dinosaurs (and bugs) were capable of growing so big. An atmosphere with higher oxygen content would tend to make coal more flammable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLr_XrooLs
As we all know, when burning coal starts running out of oxygen, it starts making carbon-monoxide, which is toxic to animals in small concentrations. (Note that every winter, some idiot tries to heat his house with charcoal in the fireplace and kills everyone in the house.)
My own *personal* theory (labeling as such hoping to avoid the "prove it" crowd's wrath) is that feathers evolved on dinosaurs as a means of protecting them from the basketball-sized mosquitos that otherwise would've bled them dry. A layer of feathers would tend to help keep the bigger bloodsuckers off/away from their skin. Later, they came in handy with jumping reptiles, slowing their descent so that they could fall from trees and not break a leg on impact, and later that evolved into gliding, and then powered flight.
Just my theory, fun to think about, I own no stock in any company trying to sell the idea, so let's keep the flames down.
If this "abiotic petroleum" theory is correct, then the oil we've found on earth is the tip of the iceberg (sorry about the mixed-metaphor). There's be plenty of oil to last centuries (whether that's a good idea for the environment or not is another matter).
Something else to consider, back during the dinosaur era, the earth's atmosphere had more oxygen in it, which was one reason dinosaurs (and bugs) were capable of growing so big. An atmosphere with higher oxygen content would tend to make coal more flammable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLr_XrooLs
As we all know, when burning coal starts running out of oxygen, it starts making carbon-monoxide, which is toxic to animals in small concentrations. (Note that every winter, some idiot tries to heat his house with charcoal in the fireplace and kills everyone in the house.)
My own *personal* theory (labeling as such hoping to avoid the "prove it" crowd's wrath) is that feathers evolved on dinosaurs as a means of protecting them from the basketball-sized mosquitos that otherwise would've bled them dry. A layer of feathers would tend to help keep the bigger bloodsuckers off/away from their skin. Later, they came in handy with jumping reptiles, slowing their descent so that they could fall from trees and not break a leg on impact, and later that evolved into gliding, and then powered flight.
Just my theory, fun to think about, I own no stock in any company trying to sell the idea, so let's keep the flames down.
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keep the bigger bloodsuckers off/away
if only
maybe real scientists here should grow feathers to keep the forum leeches and other obnoxious low life outa here
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maybe real scientists here should grow feathers to keep the forum leeches and other obnoxious low life outa here
If only.
(growing feathers as we speak)
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