There is absolute space and absolute motion through space. It is defined by the speed of light.
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
QUOTE (Nick+Dec 17 2006, 06:41 AM)
There is absolute space and absolute motion through space. It is defined by the speed of light.
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
Absolutely
You need to hurry and patent the idea, some mainstream physicists might steal it and publish it in "Lilliput Physics Today"
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
Absolutely
You need to hurry and patent the idea, some mainstream physicists might steal it and publish it in "Lilliput Physics Today"
I MOVE THROUGH ABSOLUTE SPACE. === MITCH RAEMSCH ====
I READ THROUGH ABSOLUTE CRAP. === ME ===
SORRY. 
When asked about relativity Einstein said: when the station comes to the train.
But the station does not move.
The train has absolute motion through space.
When asked about relativity Einstein said: when the station comes to the train.
But the station does not move.
The train has absolute motion through space.
The station is moving. It's attached to the Earth, which is rotating adn orbiting the Sun. The galaxy rotates and is also moving through space.
But the station is not moving, relative to someone standing on it.
Just because you cannot understand relativity Nick doesn't mean it doesn't work.
But the station is not moving, relative to someone standing on it.
Just because you cannot understand relativity Nick doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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There is absolute space and absolute motion through space. It is defined by the speed of light.
I couldn't agree more! The postulate of the universal constancy of c is meaningless without universal units of measurement and how can you define those without an absolute rest frame?
QUOTE (eiapeteides+Dec 18 2006, 01:49 AM)
I couldn't agree more! The postulate of the universal constancy of c is meaningless without universal units of measurement and how can you define those without an absolute rest frame?
Absolutely, you proved it so eloquently here, who could argue with such ironclad logic?
Light's motion through space defines the absolute rest frame. It defines the space-time metric. But everything is moving through space so there is no absolute rest.
IF TIME IS TO SLOW IT MUST HAVE A POINT OF DEPARTURE. THAT IS ONE END 0F THE SPACE-TIME METRIC. THAT IS THE FASTEST CLOCK. IT IS LIGHTS CLOCK.
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
IF TIME IS TO SLOW IT MUST HAVE A POINT OF DEPARTURE. THAT IS ONE END 0F THE SPACE-TIME METRIC. THAT IS THE FASTEST CLOCK. IT IS LIGHTS CLOCK.
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
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Absolutely, you proved it so eloquently here, who could argue with such ironclad logic?
The logic could be flawed. I do not claim to be infallible! But if you see a flaw in it, as you obviously do, could you be as kind as to point it out to me?
QUOTE (Nick+Dec 17 2006, 10:41 PM)
SORRY.
When asked about relativity Einstein said: when the station comes to the train.
But the station does not move.
The train has absolute motion through space.
Watch out, you might be run over by the platform!
When asked about relativity Einstein said: when the station comes to the train.
But the station does not move.
The train has absolute motion through space.
Watch out, you might be run over by the platform!
QUOTE (Nick+Dec 17 2006, 01:41 AM)
There is absolute space and absolute motion through space. It is defined by the speed of light.
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
Yeah Nick, in that thread where you say exactly the same thing, like I said, joke's over. We get that you're pretending to be mentally retarded. You can stop now.
MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FALLS --
Yeah Nick, in that thread where you say exactly the same thing, like I said, joke's over. We get that you're pretending to be mentally retarded. You can stop now.
QUOTE (NOM+)
The station is moving. It's attached to the Earth, which is rotating adn orbiting the Sun. The galaxy rotates and is also moving through space.
Relativity is unecessary. Everything is moving through space. There is no absolute rest.
Einstein said when asked about relativity: when the station comes to the train
The station doesn't move.
Relativity is unecessary. Everything is moving through space. There is no absolute rest.
Einstein said when asked about relativity: when the station comes to the train
The station doesn't move.
Perhaps so you might try responding with reasoning to what you find objectionable.
Bye PooP.
Bye PooP.
QUOTE (Nick+Dec 18 2006, 05:31 AM)
PooP.
...fell on your head
...fell on your head
QUOTE (Nick+Dec 17 2006, 09:41 AM)
There is absolute space and absolute motion through space.
The absolute reference frame has just the very subtle effect to the reality. For tiny surface water waves the motion of underwater has nearly no influence to surface wave motion. At the case of vacuum foam the same effect is heavily pronounced due the immense density of vacuum, but it has it's own limit too, as it can be observed to the Doppler shift of microwave background of Universe. Therefore we can say, the relativity is OK with high precision, but not ultimately exact. Of course, each the concept has it's own insintric limit by AWT. I suppose, the AWT has such limit, too.
The absolute reference frame has just the very subtle effect to the reality. For tiny surface water waves the motion of underwater has nearly no influence to surface wave motion. At the case of vacuum foam the same effect is heavily pronounced due the immense density of vacuum, but it has it's own limit too, as it can be observed to the Doppler shift of microwave background of Universe. Therefore we can say, the relativity is OK with high precision, but not ultimately exact. Of course, each the concept has it's own insintric limit by AWT. I suppose, the AWT has such limit, too.
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