[B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=7] Since it has been discovered that spinning rockets (as in a round "BUCKET" in a von braun rocket bucket )causes the chemicals of the rocket fuel to jump to a higher energy level up to33 %....and that we know when a laser beam is fired thru a chamber of cesium the speed of light is broken and moves 6 times faster or so..........it is possible to devise a new kind of rocket motor using these facts. I am thinking of a possible set up where two elements are spinning under computer control, one above the other and in close proximity, (perhaps in a vacuum)...the two elements would have to be found thru trial and error as to which two elements interact and emit thrust. It could be that a chamber of cesium gas (spinning) below a chamber of say uranium (spinning and maybe in a mganetic field) would conduct the emitted particles from the U thru the chamber of spinning cesium to produce high propulsion. I would love to be in a lab situation to experiment with these ideas. (perhaps this arrangement might just blow up but has anyone ever attempted it?)
Since we know that the speed of C is no longer a constant due to the lab experiments of a laser passing thru chamber of cessium 6 tmes faster than C and spinning chemicals causes a jump in energy levels, these things need to be investigated via many different experiments. Perhaps we can reach the stars sooner than we thought. Perhaps the emitted particles (whatever they may be) from the spinning uranium in a magnetic field and in a vacuum and being conducted through the spinning chamber of cessium below it would produce a great amount of energy...which might be guided thru a rocket nozzle.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Are you suggesting that propellant, if ignited by a laser containing photons moving at the speed of 6c, will somehow exit the nozzle of a rocket faster than the same propellant ignited by a laser made up of photons moving at c?
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Since we know that the speed of C is no longer a constant due to the lab experiments of a laser passing thru chamber of cessium 6 tmes faster than C and spinning chemicals causes a jump in energy levels, these things need to be investigated via many different experiments.
I fail to understand how that violates the principle of c, which says light is relative only to itself, the only thing that "changes" rate, is the "density" of medium that it moves through.
QUOTE (Latrosicarius+Jun 18 2009, 10:46 PM)
Are you suggesting that propellant, if ignited by a laser containing photons moving at the speed of 6c, will somehow exit the nozzle of a rocket faster than the same propellant ignited by a laser made up of photons moving at c?
I suggest experimentation to see what happens
I suggest experimentation to see what happens
QUOTE (Meem+Jun 18 2009, 11:49 PM)
I fail to understand how that violates the principle of c, which says light is relative only to itself, the only thing that "changes" rate, is the "density" of medium that it moves through.
so C was 186K MPS (using an earth clock) now C can be accelerated to C*6 (using an earth clock) This might imply that if a laser beam was fm modulated the intelligence would hit the nearest star 6 times faster
QUOTE (billyandtherockets+Jun 19 2009, 10:55 PM)
I suggest experimentation to see what happens
if the nozzle was attached to the bottom of the cesium chamber...then yes...but i wasnt suggesting a laser..i was suggesting a rotating piece of uranium inside a magnetic field (remember the old style t.v. tube? the electrons were guided thru the neck to the screen using a magnetic field) that perhaps the uranium would jump up to a 33% higher energy level and release particles (depending on the computer controlled rpms) guided by the magnetic field then pass thru a chamber of cesium (if cesium can accelerate light maybe it can accelerate particles) so we would have a high energy level of uranium particles being acclerrated thru a cessium chamber and then exiting a rocket nozzle........interesting to set up and observe the results.....maybe nothing would happen......maybe uranium isnt the proper element to use.....this is experimental brain storming....any ideas?
if the nozzle was attached to the bottom of the cesium chamber...then yes...but i wasnt suggesting a laser..i was suggesting a rotating piece of uranium inside a magnetic field (remember the old style t.v. tube? the electrons were guided thru the neck to the screen using a magnetic field) that perhaps the uranium would jump up to a 33% higher energy level and release particles (depending on the computer controlled rpms) guided by the magnetic field then pass thru a chamber of cesium (if cesium can accelerate light maybe it can accelerate particles) so we would have a high energy level of uranium particles being acclerrated thru a cessium chamber and then exiting a rocket nozzle........interesting to set up and observe the results.....maybe nothing would happen......maybe uranium isnt the proper element to use.....this is experimental brain storming....any ideas?
This is all too stupid for words to describe.
You could describe it.. but not politely.
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http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.2034
Extragalactic jets with helical magnetic fields: relativistic MHD simulations
Authors: R. Keppens, Z. Meliani, B. van der Holst, F. Casse
(Submitted on 14 Feb 2008)
Experiments on Earth by Z- pinch experiments may evolve a mechansim to drive space ships to very fast speeds. The limit is whats between the both EARS.
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http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.2034
Extragalactic jets with helical magnetic fields: relativistic MHD simulations
Authors: R. Keppens, Z. Meliani, B. van der Holst, F. Casse
(Submitted on 14 Feb 2008)
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Abstract: Extragalactic jets are inferred to harbor dynamically important, organized magnetic fields which presumably aid in the collimation of the relativistic jet flows. We here explore by means of grid-adaptive, high resolution numerical simulations the morphology of AGN jets pervaded by helical field and flow topologies. We concentrate on morphological features of the bow shock and the jet beam behind the Mach disk, for various jet Lorentz factors and magnetic field helicities. We investigate the influence of helical magnetic fields on jet beam propagation in overdense external medium. We use the AMRVAC code, employing a novel hybrid block-based AMR strategy, to compute ideal plasma dynamics in special relativity. The helicity of the beam magnetic field is effectively transported down the beam, with compression zones in between diagonal internal cross-shocks showing stronger toroidal field regions. In comparison with equivalent low-relativistic jets which get surrounded by cocoons with vortical backflows filled by mainly toroidal field, the high speed jets demonstrate only localized, strong toroidal field zones within the backflow vortical structures. We find evidence for a more poloidal, straight field layer, compressed between jet beam and backflows. This layer decreases the destabilizing influence of the backflow on the jet beam. In all cases, the jet beam contains rich cross-shock patterns, across which part of the kinetic energy gets transferred. For the high speed reference jet considered here, significant jet deceleration only occurs beyond distances exceeding ${\cal O}(100 R_j)$, as the axial flow can reaccelerate downstream to the internal cross-shocks. This reacceleration is magnetically aided, due to field compression across the internal shocks which pinch the flow.
Experiments on Earth by Z- pinch experiments may evolve a mechansim to drive space ships to very fast speeds. The limit is whats between the both EARS.
QUOTE (AlexG+Jun 19 2009, 11:44 PM)
This is all too stupid for words to describe.
sorry you are not able to comprehend
sorry you are not able to comprehend
QUOTE (Harry Costas+Jun 20 2009, 02:03 AM)
G'day from the land of ozzzzzzz
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http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.2034
Extragalactic jets with helical magnetic fields: relativistic MHD simulations
Authors: R. Keppens, Z. Meliani, B. van der Holst, F. Casse
(Submitted on 14 Feb 2008)
Experiments on Earth by Z- pinch experiments may evolve a mechansim to drive space ships to very fast speeds. The limit is whats between the both EARS.
i agree
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History tells the story of how people see things as stupid until the stupid see it working.
http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.2034
Extragalactic jets with helical magnetic fields: relativistic MHD simulations
Authors: R. Keppens, Z. Meliani, B. van der Holst, F. Casse
(Submitted on 14 Feb 2008)
Experiments on Earth by Z- pinch experiments may evolve a mechansim to drive space ships to very fast speeds. The limit is whats between the both EARS.
i agree
QUOTE (AlexG+Jun 19 2009, 11:44 PM)
This is all too stupid for words to describe.
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QUOTE (RobDegraves+Jun 20 2009, 12:54 AM)
You could describe it.. but not politely.
only because he is mentally challenged and therefore i forgive him
only because he is mentally challenged and therefore i forgive him
Nothing you've said has any basis in reality. Light does not travel at 6c in cesium and spinning something on a drill does not result in it being in a higher energy state.
It's not a matter of comprehending. Your posts are empty of any content.
It's not a matter of comprehending. Your posts are empty of any content.
QUOTE (AlexG+Jun 20 2009, 05:05 PM)
Nothing you've said has any basis in reality. Light does not travel at 6c in cesium and spinning something on a drill does not result in it being in a higher energy state.
It's not a matter of comprehending. Your posts are empty of any content.
alex alex alex...do your homework and use that genius to help man advance.
go check out richard hogland's website called enterprise or is it ussenterprise....
there you will find the story of von braun's mysterious higher than predicted orbit of the first few satelites...due to spinning of the rocket buckets....then google for cesium causes laser to speed up 6 times....do the homework and then try to use your genius to find new methods of propulsion (or resign yourself to never know what other planets in other star systems look like.)
It's not a matter of comprehending. Your posts are empty of any content.
alex alex alex...do your homework and use that genius to help man advance.
go check out richard hogland's website called enterprise or is it ussenterprise....
there you will find the story of von braun's mysterious higher than predicted orbit of the first few satelites...due to spinning of the rocket buckets....then google for cesium causes laser to speed up 6 times....do the homework and then try to use your genius to find new methods of propulsion (or resign yourself to never know what other planets in other star systems look like.)
Here's the explanation of what happens in the cesium laser setup.
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw105.html
Have you ever taken any physics courses? Ever study the subject at all?
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw105.html
Have you ever taken any physics courses? Ever study the subject at all?
QUOTE (AlexG+Jun 20 2009, 06:00 PM)
Here's the explanation of what happens in the cesium laser setup.
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw105.html
Have you ever taken any physics courses? Ever study the subject at all?
of course...........I am the man who suggested the physical set up for what NASA now calls LIDAR....and you?
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw105.html
Have you ever taken any physics courses? Ever study the subject at all?
of course...........I am the man who suggested the physical set up for what NASA now calls LIDAR....and you?
QUOTE (billyandtherockets+Jun 20 2009, 04:57 PM)
of course...........I am the man who suggested the physical set up for what NASA now calls LIDAR....and you?
To whom did you suggest it? Your therapist? Because you have shown an incredible ignorance of physics here.
My degree in physics is 35 years old now, and I've never worked as a physicist, so I don't call myself one.
To whom did you suggest it? Your therapist? Because you have shown an incredible ignorance of physics here.
My degree in physics is 35 years old now, and I've never worked as a physicist, so I don't call myself one.
G'day from the land of ozzzzzzz
Sometimes its easier to be a critic and flow down main stream without effort.
It takes effort and pain to go on a limb and paddle upstream and test the waters.
There is fantastic work on new energy based on magnetic reconnection in plasmas.
The problem that can arise is that it can be used as a weapon in various sizes and mass distruction.
Sometimes its easier to be a critic and flow down main stream without effort.
It takes effort and pain to go on a limb and paddle upstream and test the waters.
There is fantastic work on new energy based on magnetic reconnection in plasmas.
The problem that can arise is that it can be used as a weapon in various sizes and mass distruction.
QUOTE (Harry Costas+Jun 21 2009, 01:08 AM)
There is fantastic work on new energy based on magnetic reconnection in plasmas.
Oh really? ...... may we share in your feverish excitement?
p.s;- why absence of link to material source?
Or did you just fish this one straight outta your fucked up Rrrrse?
Oh really? ...... may we share in your feverish excitement?
p.s;- why absence of link to material source?
Or did you just fish this one straight outta your fucked up Rrrrse?
Regarding inter-stellar flight - I predict AI will eventually 'dream up' a totally wonderful viable solution, enabling us to explore the universe. However, this may take a few decades yet .... maybe the odd century?
The real trouble with currently investing heaps of cash and effort to achieve the aforementioned goal is; although we might create a starship capable of ultra-high acceleration etc, the real issue is time dilation.
If AI can discover a means of exotic transit, free of this real shitty bug, the awful scenario of:
Man gets in starship (heading towards Planet X) and spends 10 years in cryostasis undergoing 1000G acceleration/braking ...... only to discover (post thawed out) superior intelligence of the machine variety has enabled us to arrive many decades earlier!
- with family and friends, long since dead, he's going to feel a bit of a fuckhead.
The real trouble with currently investing heaps of cash and effort to achieve the aforementioned goal is; although we might create a starship capable of ultra-high acceleration etc, the real issue is time dilation.
If AI can discover a means of exotic transit, free of this real shitty bug, the awful scenario of:
Man gets in starship (heading towards Planet X) and spends 10 years in cryostasis undergoing 1000G acceleration/braking ...... only to discover (post thawed out) superior intelligence of the machine variety has enabled us to arrive many decades earlier!
- with family and friends, long since dead, he's going to feel a bit of a fuckhead.
G'day from the land of ozz
Geoff the Mollusc said
Mate I would give you the links, but you would use it for paper.
Thats if you can read.
Some mothers do have them.
Geoff the Mollusc said
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Or did you just fish this one straight outta your fucked up Rrrrse?
Mate I would give you the links, but you would use it for paper.
Thats if you can read.
Some mothers do have them.
QUOTE (AlexG+Jun 20 2009, 10:56 PM)
To whom did you suggest it? Your therapist? Because you have shown an incredible ignorance of physics here.
My degree in physics is 35 years old now, and I've never worked as a physicist, so I don't call myself one.
i guess your just a grumpy old man ey?
My degree in physics is 35 years old now, and I've never worked as a physicist, so I don't call myself one.
i guess your just a grumpy old man ey?
QUOTE (Harry Costas+Jun 21 2009, 01:08 AM)
G'day from the land of ozzzzzzz
Sometimes its easier to be a critic and flow down main stream without effort.
It takes effort and pain to go on a limb and paddle upstream and test the waters.
There is fantastic work on new energy based on magnetic reconnection in plasmas.
The problem that can arise is that it can be used as a weapon in various sizes and mass distruction.
true...man has a proclivity to turn everything into a weapon.....so sometimes I leave things out in this forum...but I still wondr what would happen if uranium was centrifuged in a magnetic field (maybe the enemy will try it an blow themselves off the map haha)...actually you are right....it is probally better not to put ideas here.....as you can see they are very disturbing to ALEX G who cliams to have a 35 yr old diploma in physics but never worked in the field.....his degree is very old ey....i guess he hasnt been keeping up with modern physics....shame at first he seemed like a nice person....but i guess now all he can do is insult people with new ideas. perhaps it is a case of projection when he mentioned a therapist.
Sometimes its easier to be a critic and flow down main stream without effort.
It takes effort and pain to go on a limb and paddle upstream and test the waters.
There is fantastic work on new energy based on magnetic reconnection in plasmas.
The problem that can arise is that it can be used as a weapon in various sizes and mass distruction.
true...man has a proclivity to turn everything into a weapon.....so sometimes I leave things out in this forum...but I still wondr what would happen if uranium was centrifuged in a magnetic field (maybe the enemy will try it an blow themselves off the map haha)...actually you are right....it is probally better not to put ideas here.....as you can see they are very disturbing to ALEX G who cliams to have a 35 yr old diploma in physics but never worked in the field.....his degree is very old ey....i guess he hasnt been keeping up with modern physics....shame at first he seemed like a nice person....but i guess now all he can do is insult people with new ideas. perhaps it is a case of projection when he mentioned a therapist.
QUOTE (Geoff Mollusc+Jun 21 2009, 06:36 AM)
Regarding inter-stellar flight - I predict AI will eventually 'dream up' a totally wonderful viable solution, enabling us to explore the universe. However, this may take a few decades yet .... maybe the odd century?
The real trouble with currently investing heaps of cash and effort to achieve the aforementioned goal is; although we might create a starship capable of ultra-high acceleration etc, the real issue is time dilation.
If AI can discover a means of exotic transit, free of this real shitty bug, the awful scenario of:
Man gets in starship (heading towards Planet X) and spends 10 years in cryostasis undergoing 1000G acceleration/braking ...... only to discover (post thawed out) superior intelligence of the machine variety has enabled us to arrive many decades earlier!
- with family and friends, long since dead, he's going to feel a bit of a fuckhead.
haha.....interesting....have you ever heard of Dr White? He was able to graft a monkey head onto another mokey and the creation lived. there is a video on him on the net. Many moons ago I suggested to NASA they should investigate the possibiillity of incorporating a human brain into a robotic carrier which would be integrated with the ship. Of course it would be a volunteer(s) not concerned with who was left on return. The elite Russians were very much interested in Dr White's work as they wanted to extend their liffe spans. I wouldnt be surprised if they already have a DATA like robot (enterprise tng) running around with a human brain. It is the body that usually fails before the brain (unless altzheimers renders one useless) and i suppose technically the brain could live on for hundreds of years with the proper glucose flows etc...glad to see there s one more thinker out there.........Bill
The real trouble with currently investing heaps of cash and effort to achieve the aforementioned goal is; although we might create a starship capable of ultra-high acceleration etc, the real issue is time dilation.
If AI can discover a means of exotic transit, free of this real shitty bug, the awful scenario of:
Man gets in starship (heading towards Planet X) and spends 10 years in cryostasis undergoing 1000G acceleration/braking ...... only to discover (post thawed out) superior intelligence of the machine variety has enabled us to arrive many decades earlier!
- with family and friends, long since dead, he's going to feel a bit of a fuckhead.
haha.....interesting....have you ever heard of Dr White? He was able to graft a monkey head onto another mokey and the creation lived. there is a video on him on the net. Many moons ago I suggested to NASA they should investigate the possibiillity of incorporating a human brain into a robotic carrier which would be integrated with the ship. Of course it would be a volunteer(s) not concerned with who was left on return. The elite Russians were very much interested in Dr White's work as they wanted to extend their liffe spans. I wouldnt be surprised if they already have a DATA like robot (enterprise tng) running around with a human brain. It is the body that usually fails before the brain (unless altzheimers renders one useless) and i suppose technically the brain could live on for hundreds of years with the proper glucose flows etc...glad to see there s one more thinker out there.........Bill
Uh.. Billy...
AlexG might have an old diploma, but that is light years ahead of where you are standing.
You will need some sort of proof of this... as of now you are coming off as not just ignorant but a huge liar as well.
Seriously... put up or shut up.
OK... edited to add...
You will need some sort of proof of this... as of now you are coming off as not just ignorant but a huge liar as well.
Seriously... put up or shut up.
OK... edited to add...
Many moons ago I suggested to NASA they should investigate the possibiillity of incorporating a human brain into a robotic carrier which would be integrated with the ship.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I knew there was a reason I follow these... pure entertainment.
Next he'll claim to be Anne McCaffrey, Larry Niven and Willy Ley...
AlexG might have an old diploma, but that is light years ahead of where you are standing.
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of course...........I am the man who suggested the physical set up for what NASA now calls LIDAR....and you?
You will need some sort of proof of this... as of now you are coming off as not just ignorant but a huge liar as well.
Seriously... put up or shut up.
OK... edited to add...
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| of course...........I am the man who suggested the physical set up for what NASA now calls LIDAR....and you? |
You will need some sort of proof of this... as of now you are coming off as not just ignorant but a huge liar as well.
Seriously... put up or shut up.
OK... edited to add...
Many moons ago I suggested to NASA they should investigate the possibiillity of incorporating a human brain into a robotic carrier which would be integrated with the ship.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I knew there was a reason I follow these... pure entertainment.
Next he'll claim to be Anne McCaffrey, Larry Niven and Willy Ley...
Harry Costas
The reason the creek flows at all is because it follows the law of gravity, not what some nutjobs think it should.
The reason the creek flows at all is because it follows the law of gravity, not what some nutjobs think it should.
It takes effort and pain to go on a limb and paddle upstream and test the waters.
The problem you and Billy and the rest of the cranks have is you are up the creek and you don't have a paddle(intellectually speaking, of course).
I'm sure there is, just as I am sure you will totally misinterpret and misrepresent the implications of that research.
Next he'll claim to be Anne McCaffrey, Larry Niven and Willy Ley...
I am thinking there are many jealous people on this forum
...... This concentrate of extreme idiocy is deemed incapable of reverse engineering a coat-hanger (Hanger 18, naturally) - some delusional UFO loser, with a rabid hankering for BS, lies and fraud.
[SIZE=14]say what????
No, you're probably a quite sincere crackpot. But a crackpot nonetheless.
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Sometimes its easier to be a critic and flow down main stream without effort.
The reason the creek flows at all is because it follows the law of gravity, not what some nutjobs think it should.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Sometimes its easier to be a critic and flow down main stream without effort. |
The reason the creek flows at all is because it follows the law of gravity, not what some nutjobs think it should.
It takes effort and pain to go on a limb and paddle upstream and test the waters.
The problem you and Billy and the rest of the cranks have is you are up the creek and you don't have a paddle(intellectually speaking, of course).
QUOTE
There is fantastic work on new energy based on magnetic reconnection in plasmas.
I'm sure there is, just as I am sure you will totally misinterpret and misrepresent the implications of that research.
We'll believe when we see it.
G'day from the land of ozzzzzz
Once a Grumpy always a Grumpy.
What type of a Degree do you have?
Thats if you have one at all.
===================
On with the show.
A future fuel for space ships may come from some form of dense plasma fusion.
Or of similar confinement of plasma such as a tokamak.
Dense plasma focus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_plasma_focus
Once a Grumpy always a Grumpy.
What type of a Degree do you have?
Thats if you have one at all.
===================
On with the show.
A future fuel for space ships may come from some form of dense plasma fusion.
Or of similar confinement of plasma such as a tokamak.
Dense plasma focus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_plasma_focus
G'day from the land of ozzzzzzz
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...7oalSRUVjnlHjng
Scientists in possible cold fusion breakthrough
Mar 24, 2009
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...7oalSRUVjnlHjng
Scientists in possible cold fusion breakthrough
Mar 24, 2009
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WASHINGTON (AFP) — Researchers at a US Navy laboratory have unveiled what they say is "significant" evidence of cold fusion, a potential energy source that has many skeptics in the scientific community.
The scientists on Monday described what they called the first clear visual evidence that low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR), or cold fusion devices can produce neutrons, subatomic particles that scientists say are indicative of nuclear reactions.
"Our finding is very significant," said analytical chemist Pamela Mosier-Boss of the US Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California.
"To our knowledge, this is the first scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from a LENR device," added the study's co-author in a statement.
The study's results were presented at the annual meeting of the American Chemical Society in Salt Lake City, Utah.
The scientists on Monday described what they called the first clear visual evidence that low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR), or cold fusion devices can produce neutrons, subatomic particles that scientists say are indicative of nuclear reactions.
"Our finding is very significant," said analytical chemist Pamela Mosier-Boss of the US Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California.
"To our knowledge, this is the first scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from a LENR device," added the study's co-author in a statement.
The study's results were presented at the annual meeting of the American Chemical Society in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Well its one small step forward i guess. Lets all hope something comes out of it.
QUOTE (Granouille+Jun 21 2009, 11:48 PM)
Next he'll claim to be Anne McCaffrey, Larry Niven and Willy Ley... I am thinking there are many jealous people on this forum
Actually... I am quite jealous to be honest.
I am jealous of anyone that knows more than I do. When I find someone like that, I strive to learn more so I won't envy them as much. I can't possibly know everything, but I am sure going to try.
However.... I am not jealous of you.
I am jealous of anyone that knows more than I do. When I find someone like that, I strive to learn more so I won't envy them as much. I can't possibly know everything, but I am sure going to try.
However.... I am not jealous of you.
QUOTE (Latrosicarius+Jun 18 2009, 10:46 PM)
Are you suggesting that propellant, if ignited by a laser containing photons moving at the speed of 6c, will somehow exit the nozzle of a rocket faster than the same propellant ignited by a laser made up of photons moving at c?
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• Reveals the workings of advanced technologies capable of controlling gravity that have thrust-to-power ratios thousands of times greater than the jet engine.
• Recounts the history of how gravity control research first developed and how dozens of major aerospace companies in the 50's were involved in major research effort that eventually became classified.
• Presents new insights into the B-2's highly secret electrogravitic field propulsion system.
• Discloses the existence of Project Skyvault, the highly classified Rocketdyne program that developed craft capable of lofting on invisible beams of microwave energy.
• Shows how devices currently under military development could revolutionize air travel and energy production.
• Shows how NASA participates in a cover-up to block adoption of advanced technologies under military development.
• Explains the physics behind electrogravitic field propulsion technologies.
• Shows evidence of a Navy cover up of Townsend Brown's involvement in the highly secret Philadelphia Experiment.
In Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, physicist Paul LaViolette reveals the secret history of antigravity experimentation--from Nikola Tesla and T. Townsend Brown to the B-2 Advanced Technology Bomber. He discloses the existence of advanced gravity-control technologies, under secret military development for decades, that could revolutionize air travel and energy production. Included among the secret projects he reveals is the research of Project Skyvault to develop an aerospace propulsion system using intense beams of microwave energy similar to that used by the strange crafts seen flying over Area 51.
Using subquantum kinetics--the science behind antigravity technology--LaViolette reviews numerous field-propulsion devices and technologies that have thrust-to-power ratios thousands of times greater than that of a jet engine and whose effects are not explained by conventional physics and relativity theory. He then presents controversial evidence about the NASA cover-up in adopting these advanced technologies. He also details ongoing Russian research to duplicate John Searl's self-propelled levitating disc and shows how the results of the Podkletnov gravity beam experiment could be harnessed to produce an interstellar spacecraft.
QUOTE (RobDegraves+Jun 22 2009, 04:03 PM)
Actually... I am quite jealous to be honest.
I am jealous of anyone that knows more than I do. When I find someone like that, I strive to learn more so I won't envy them as much. I can't possibly know everything, but I am sure going to try.
However.... I am not jealous of you.
[B] it is snide to put portrabeezie in the (cant remember the quote)
I am jealous of anyone that knows more than I do. When I find someone like that, I strive to learn more so I won't envy them as much. I can't possibly know everything, but I am sure going to try.
However.... I am not jealous of you.
[B] it is snide to put portrabeezie in the (cant remember the quote)
QUOTE (Harry Costas+Jun 22 2009, 03:02 AM)
A future fuel for space ships may come from some form of dense plasma fusion.
Or of similar confinement of plasma such as a tokamak.
Dense plasma focus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_plasma_focus
A DPF and tokamak are not similar at all. In fact they are conceptual opposites of each other.
The tokamak is designed to confine plasma in an electromagnetic toroid. The problem is that plasma is inherently not stable, and tends to try to escape the magnetic field. The ideal design of a electromagnetically contained plasma fusion chamber would not be toroidal, but a sphere, as small as possible, where all plasma is contained and compressed in the center. Unfortunately, engineering principals deny this configuration, and as a result the plasma must be spread out in a long donut shape where it cools much faster (not desirable).
The DPF does not confine plasma with electromagnetic fields. It uses plasma's innate instability to advantage by creating an plasma filament by the combination of several electrical arcs, which twists itself until a tiny, but extremely hot plasmoid forms. The plasmoid only lasts for a few microseconds before it completely destabilizes. When it breaks up, it releases radiation into the gas-fuel environment. Some surmise it is even hot enough to ignite p+B11 fusion. This process is repeated hundreds or thousands of times per second to achieve sustained fusion.
Or of similar confinement of plasma such as a tokamak.
Dense plasma focus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_plasma_focus
A DPF and tokamak are not similar at all. In fact they are conceptual opposites of each other.
The tokamak is designed to confine plasma in an electromagnetic toroid. The problem is that plasma is inherently not stable, and tends to try to escape the magnetic field. The ideal design of a electromagnetically contained plasma fusion chamber would not be toroidal, but a sphere, as small as possible, where all plasma is contained and compressed in the center. Unfortunately, engineering principals deny this configuration, and as a result the plasma must be spread out in a long donut shape where it cools much faster (not desirable).
The DPF does not confine plasma with electromagnetic fields. It uses plasma's innate instability to advantage by creating an plasma filament by the combination of several electrical arcs, which twists itself until a tiny, but extremely hot plasmoid forms. The plasmoid only lasts for a few microseconds before it completely destabilizes. When it breaks up, it releases radiation into the gas-fuel environment. Some surmise it is even hot enough to ignite p+B11 fusion. This process is repeated hundreds or thousands of times per second to achieve sustained fusion.
G'day Latro
I agree with you.
Although you read my words out of context. It sounds like you know what you are talking about.
If you read Wikipedea you will find a brief expalantion of the various confinements
Tokamak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak_plasma
Stellarator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellarator
Spheromak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spheromak
Reversed field pinch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_field_pinch
Field-reversed configuration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-reversed_configuration
Inertial confinement fusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_confinement_fusion
Z-pinch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-pinch
and so on.
The subject on
Toroidal magnetic field
Is very interesting in cosmology
I agree with you.
Although you read my words out of context. It sounds like you know what you are talking about.
If you read Wikipedea you will find a brief expalantion of the various confinements
Tokamak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak_plasma
Stellarator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellarator
Spheromak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spheromak
Reversed field pinch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_field_pinch
Field-reversed configuration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-reversed_configuration
Inertial confinement fusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_confinement_fusion
Z-pinch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-pinch
and so on.
The subject on
Toroidal magnetic field
Is very interesting in cosmology
QUOTE (billyandtherockets+Jun 21 2009, 09:51 PM)
haha.....interesting....have you ever heard of Dr White?
Yup, a brand of belted sanitary towels ..... you really must strap one across your idiot mouth ......... looping both ends around, no-doubt, severely protruding Fragile-X ears (of the totally syndromic imbecile variety).
Yup, a brand of belted sanitary towels ..... you really must strap one across your idiot mouth ......... looping both ends around, no-doubt, severely protruding Fragile-X ears (of the totally syndromic imbecile variety).
G'day from the land of ozzzzz
I'm just sharing this reading, not trying to prove a point.
I was emailed this link.
Is it a joke or what?
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0703013
AB Levitator and Electricity Storage
Authors: Alexander Bolonkin
(Submitted on 1 Mar 2007)
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I'm just sharing this reading, not trying to prove a point.
I was emailed this link.
Is it a joke or what?
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0703013
AB Levitator and Electricity Storage
Authors: Alexander Bolonkin
(Submitted on 1 Mar 2007)
QUOTE
Abstract: The author researched this new idea - support of flight by any aerial vehicles at significant altitude solely by the magnetic field of the planet. It is shown that current technology allows humans to create a light propulsion (AB engine) which does not depend on air, water or ground terrain. Simultaniosly, this revolutionary thruster is a device for the storage of electricity which is extracted and is replenished (during braking) from/into the storage with 100 percent efficiency. The relative weight ratio of this engine is 0.01 - 0.1 (from thrust). For some types of AB engine (toroidal form) the thrust easily may be changed in any direction without turning of engine.
The author computed many projects using different versions of offered AB engine: small device for levitation-flight of a human (including flight from Earth to Outer Space), fly VTOL car (track), big VTOL aircrat, suspended low altitude stationary satellite, powerful Space Shuttle-like booster for travel to the Moon and Mars without spending energy (spended energy is replenished in braking when ship returns from other planet to its point of origin), using AB-devices in military, in sea-going ships (submarimes), in energy industry (for example. as small storage of electric energy) and so on. The vehicles equipped with AB propulsion can take flight for days and cover distances of tens thousands of kilometers at hypersonic or extra-atmosphere space speeds.
The work contains tens of inventions and innovations which solves problems and breaks limitations which appear in solution of these very complex revolutionary ideas.
Key word: AB levitator, levitation, non-rocket outer space flight, electric energy storage, AB propulsion, AB engine, Bolonkin.
The author computed many projects using different versions of offered AB engine: small device for levitation-flight of a human (including flight from Earth to Outer Space), fly VTOL car (track), big VTOL aircrat, suspended low altitude stationary satellite, powerful Space Shuttle-like booster for travel to the Moon and Mars without spending energy (spended energy is replenished in braking when ship returns from other planet to its point of origin), using AB-devices in military, in sea-going ships (submarimes), in energy industry (for example. as small storage of electric energy) and so on. The vehicles equipped with AB propulsion can take flight for days and cover distances of tens thousands of kilometers at hypersonic or extra-atmosphere space speeds.
The work contains tens of inventions and innovations which solves problems and breaks limitations which appear in solution of these very complex revolutionary ideas.
Key word: AB levitator, levitation, non-rocket outer space flight, electric energy storage, AB propulsion, AB engine, Bolonkin.
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QUOTE (AlexG+Jun 20 2009, 05:05 PM)
Nothing you've said has any basis in reality. Light does not travel at 6c in cesium and spinning something on a drill does not result in it being in a higher energy state.
It's not a matter of comprehending. Your posts are empty of any content.
A RECENT PHYSICIST DISCOVERED THAT PLACING VARIOUS ELEMENTS ONTO A ROTATING DRILL DOES INDEED CAUSE AN ENERGY JUMP..HE USED A DRILL FOR LACK OF A CENTRIFUGE....SMART MAN! TRY IT SOMETIME.....USE A FLASHLIGHT CELL....EPOXY A COFFEE CAN LID ONTO A DRILL( ROUND SANDER FOR A BASE )AND RIG UP YOUR METER AND PROBES...THEN EMAIL STANDEYO@STANDEYO.COM AND ASK HIM HOW HIS ANTI GRAV FLYING SAUCER IS COMING ALONG.
ALL WE ARE DOING HERE IS SEEKING A METHOD TO REACH THE NEAREST STAR BEFORE WE EXPIRE AND NEVER KNOW. GO TO WWW.ENTERPRISE.COM AND READ THE VON BRAUN PAPERS THERE WHICH INCLUDE THAT PHYSICIST WHO USED A DRILL....GO GOOGLE THE CESIUM EXPERIMENT WHERE A pHd FIRED A LASER THRU A CHAMBER OF CESIUM.....IT DID SPEED UP THE BEAM TO 6 TIMES FASTER. C X 6 MAYBE YOU WILL BE THE ONE WHO FIGURES OUT THE EXPERIMENT TO DO MORE WITH WHAT IS KNOWN.
It's not a matter of comprehending. Your posts are empty of any content.
A RECENT PHYSICIST DISCOVERED THAT PLACING VARIOUS ELEMENTS ONTO A ROTATING DRILL DOES INDEED CAUSE AN ENERGY JUMP..HE USED A DRILL FOR LACK OF A CENTRIFUGE....SMART MAN! TRY IT SOMETIME.....USE A FLASHLIGHT CELL....EPOXY A COFFEE CAN LID ONTO A DRILL( ROUND SANDER FOR A BASE )AND RIG UP YOUR METER AND PROBES...THEN EMAIL STANDEYO@STANDEYO.COM AND ASK HIM HOW HIS ANTI GRAV FLYING SAUCER IS COMING ALONG.
ALL WE ARE DOING HERE IS SEEKING A METHOD TO REACH THE NEAREST STAR BEFORE WE EXPIRE AND NEVER KNOW. GO TO WWW.ENTERPRISE.COM AND READ THE VON BRAUN PAPERS THERE WHICH INCLUDE THAT PHYSICIST WHO USED A DRILL....GO GOOGLE THE CESIUM EXPERIMENT WHERE A pHd FIRED A LASER THRU A CHAMBER OF CESIUM.....IT DID SPEED UP THE BEAM TO 6 TIMES FASTER. C X 6 MAYBE YOU WILL BE THE ONE WHO FIGURES OUT THE EXPERIMENT TO DO MORE WITH WHAT IS KNOWN.
QUOTE (Grant Hayman+Jul 2 2009, 07:30 PM)
Hey guys,
I have been researching this kind of stuff for years.
Want to know alot more about possible advanced space propulsion systems check out my website:
Just google interstellar propulsion. I host oval ecotech.
I would love to discuss this topic more with anyone interested.
Grant
[B] WHAT IS YOUR EXACT WEBSITE ADDRESS?
I have been researching this kind of stuff for years.
Want to know alot more about possible advanced space propulsion systems check out my website:
Just google interstellar propulsion. I host oval ecotech.
I would love to discuss this topic more with anyone interested.
Grant
[B] WHAT IS YOUR EXACT WEBSITE ADDRESS?
QUOTE (grant hayman+Aug 14 2009, 10:29 PM)
sorry Website is:
ovalecotech.ca
Lots of legit science and physics to prove new forms of propulsion are possible.
...... This concentrate of extreme idiocy is deemed incapable of reverse engineering a coat-hanger (Hanger 18, naturally) - some delusional UFO loser, with a rabid hankering for BS, lies and fraud.
ovalecotech.ca
Lots of legit science and physics to prove new forms of propulsion are possible.
...... This concentrate of extreme idiocy is deemed incapable of reverse engineering a coat-hanger (Hanger 18, naturally) - some delusional UFO loser, with a rabid hankering for BS, lies and fraud.
QUOTE (Geoff Mollusc+Aug 15 2009, 03:54 AM)
...... This concentrate of extreme idiocy is deemed incapable of reverse engineering a coat-hanger (Hanger 18, naturally) - some delusional UFO loser, with a rabid hankering for BS, lies and fraud. [SIZE=14]say what????
QUOTE
If it was a fraud as you say, that would imply I am trying to deceive people for some personal gain.
No, you're probably a quite sincere crackpot. But a crackpot nonetheless.
It's just one crank after another.
grant hayman's posts have been deleted as spam.
QUOTE (Latrosicarius+Jun 22 2009, 08:49 PM)
The ideal design of a electromagnetically contained plasma fusion chamber would not be toroidal, but a sphere, as small as possible, where all plasma is contained and compressed in the center.
Isnt that exactly what the Polywell design, from Dr Bussard, achieved?
Isnt that exactly what the Polywell design, from Dr Bussard, achieved?
anyway, BillyandtheRockets still has not proved light can travel at 6c when going through cesium.
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