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Latrosicarius
Hello, today is the first time I've posted in 4 months, and I log on to see regular negative feedback from my friends in the self-proclaimed "forum mafia" lol

This honestly and sincerely made me laugh out loud when I saw it. Such a pitiful bunch of nerds on a physics internet forum, trying to act like playground bullies.

Do you have anything better to do? Do you schedule a day each week on your calendar to make sure you don't miss an opportunity to neg my feedback score? Or do you devote so much effort to little-ol-me that I'm in the foremost parts of your thoughts each week, even after having not posted for such a long time. I don't know which is more flattering to me--and at the same time more pitiful for you.

Some people on here may care about their reputation or the amount of virtual, so-called "friends" on an internet forum. But I really don't. Go ahead, I invite everyone to give me a neg. It's even a bit funny to see you all wasting your time trying to insult me or whatever.

So please try harder, and when you finally get me to a negative feedback score, I hope you feel a great sense of accomplishment--you will really need it, since it's apparent you have no prospects for accomplishing anything of value in the real world. Please get girlfriends.

Btw, you're replies to this topic will fall on deaf ears so to speak, as I really couldn't care less what you have to say, nor what you may think will be a witty retort to "put me in my place".
Gehn
You're just showing your anger toward the FM by posting something like that.

- Gehn biggrin.gif
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Latrosicarius+Feb 28 2008, 02:32 PM)
Hello, today is the first time I've posted in 4 months, and I log on to see regular negative feedback from my friends in the self-proclaimed "forum mafia" lol
...

1: If it made you laugh, and didn't upset you, why this thread?
2: Did you expect to see jocks on a physics board? Or maybe punks? Or grungy rebels? I for one, expected nerds.
3: If we didn't have anything better to do, we'd be on here a lot more often. And your feedback score would be a lot lower.
4: If you really want a neg from me, I'll give you one, but I haven't had a reason, yet.
5: If you aren't going to read any replies, why post in the first place? I bet you WILL read them, even if you manage to refrain from replying.
6: I already have a girlfriend. I don't know what I'd do with two. (Well, actually, I do. biggrin.gif In fact, I know EXACTLY what I'd do with two.)
Latrosicarius
I didn't say or mean to imply that I was not going to read this thread. Only that I don't really care what retorts are made... I don't really want to spend the time trying to argue a losing battle.

But I will clarify this, BigDumbWeirdo: this thread was more directed at those members of the FM that routinely give me negative FB, just for the sake of doing it.

I have in the past, said things that were stupid or wrong, and those negs were well deserved. So in likewise fashion with your point #4, I do not have a problem with you or the rest of the FM either... (yet?)

Cheers.
Confused2
Hi Latroscarius,

In fairness to the forum admin it seems the 'Forum Mafia' has been reduced to BigDumbWeirdo (deranged cult leader) with NOM and Gehn (as camp followers?). Dallas/Trout/etc seem to operate on their own account and do at least show some interest in physics. So things are not so bad as they might seem at first sight.

Best wishes,
-C2.


BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Confused2+Feb 28 2008, 05:09 PM)
In fairness to the forum admin it seems the 'Forum Mafia' has been reduced to BigDumbWeirdo (deranged cult leader) with NOM and Gehn (as camp followers?).

Are you so sure of that? Think real hard before you answer.
Confused2
My own feedback is generally a fair indicator of troll activity on the forum..

NOM .. performing as usual
BDW .. one neg (recent)
5D+sock-puppets .. no negs for three weeks
Gehn .. not active on my feedback (but may be active against others)

looks pretty good to me smile.gif

-C2.

BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Confused2+Feb 28 2008, 06:14 PM)
My own feedback is generally a fair indicator of troll activity on the forum..

NOM .. performing as usual
BDW .. one neg (recent)
5D+sock-puppets  .. no negs for three weeks
Gehn .. not active on my feedback (but may be active against others)

looks pretty good to me smile.gif

-C2.

I love the way people on this site throw around the word "Troll" like it means "person I don't like."
'Cause I'd say 90% of the people accused of trolling here, aren't.
SHEOL was a troll. So was his sockpuppet.
einsteinear is a troll.
Samantha Hildreth is a troll.
That's pretty much it.
Let's get a definition of "Troll" shall we?
Wikipedia - Troll
QUOTE
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

Well... All of us are guilty of trolling at some point, by that definition.
Kinda like the way you pop up in forums I'm active in to call me a troll, right?
And one look through my posting history will show that I spend more time discussing and arguing physics than anything else. So...
Who's the troll in this thread?
Confused2
Hi BDW,
QUOTE (BDW+)
I love the way people on this site throw around the word "Troll" like it means "person I don't like."


I use the term 'troll' in a general sense to describe people who consistently behave in a way which I feel will cause damage to the forum as a whole.

I like to believe most of us can tell the difference between 'People I don't like' and 'Internet troll'. By way of example the list I gave did not (of course) automatically include everyone with whom I have had a 'personal' disagreement.

Can we can agree that the four names I mentioned are 'baiters' ? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiting_%28Internet%29 )

"On Internet forums, baiting is sometimes used in attempts to empty forums or reduce a forum's usage. This type of baiting is usually done to make the atmosphere of a forum appear unpleasant or to make forum owners, moderators and long-time users look foolish. A person using this kind of baiting may post comments to elicit rude responses from prominent members of a forum, thus making the responding member or members appear as trolls or flamers to bystanders. As a result, forum users in general may become disgusted and leave the forum."

-C2.
bm1957
QUOTE (Confused2+Feb 29 2008, 10:18 AM)
"On Internet forums, baiting is sometimes used in attempts to empty forums or reduce a forum's usage. This type of baiting is usually done to make the atmosphere of a forum appear unpleasant or to make forum owners, moderators and long-time users look foolish. A person using this kind of baiting may post comments to elicit rude responses from prominent members of a forum, thus making the responding member or members appear as trolls or flamers to bystanders. As a result, forum users in general may become disgusted and leave the forum."

From my point of view BDW is actually a prominent member who contributes more than most to actual physics.

It's quite easy to find evidence of that.

That he acts like he does sometimes (sorry to speak of you in the third person mate!) is probably borne out by the bolded part of the quote.

That's my opinion, anyway.
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (bm1957+Feb 29 2008, 06:11 AM)
From my point of view BDW is actually a prominent member who contributes more than most to actual physics.

It's quite easy to find evidence of that.

That he acts like he does sometimes (sorry to speak of you in the third person mate!) is probably borne out by the bolded part of the quote.

That's my opinion, anyway.

Thanks for the defense, bm. (To be perfectly honest, that evidence was of me talking engineering, but since engineering needs physics to an incredible degree, I think it's still good. laugh.gif )
As for why I provoke the cranks, it's because when I first came here, one of the cranks appeared in my first thread to make wild claims about physics, presented as immutable facts. I was at first unsure whether he was a crank or a real scientist speaking on a level of understanding above mine (though I suspected crank.)
If I did not have the level of knowledge I do in regards to physics, I might have believed him, and spread such information elsewhere (whenever a question of physics [or any other academic subject, really] arises among my friends and coworkers, I am usually considered the "go-to" guy for a correct answer.)
I see this as unjustifiable, and so I provoke the cranks in order to make it apparent what their true colors are.
As for C2, he ignored an effort on my part to mend fences and declare a truce between us, instead choosing to use something I said in another discussion to put forth a lie, and criticize me for the very behavior he was engaging in at that moment, not to mention lending support to a bigoted schizophrenic (MRP) arguing with me in that discussion.
And then he comes here, trolling this thread in order to accuse me and others of being trolls! I've seen reasons to try and maintain good relations with C2, but every time I start to think I should do so, he does something like this, and gives me an even better reason not to.
Confused2
So the reason Latroscarius gets negative feedback even when he isn't posting is that Confused2 is a troll unsure.gif
-C2
bm1957
QUOTE (Confused2+Mar 1 2008, 12:16 PM)
So the reason Latroscarius gets negative feedback even when he isn't posting is that Confused2 is a troll unsure.gif
-C2

Strawman.

Your proposed definition of troll didn't talk about feedback so it is not relevant, besides, BDW has never negged Lat. So what argument are you directing that sarcastic strawman at??? blink.gif
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (Confused2+Mar 1 2008, 07:16 AM)
So the reason Latroscarius gets negative feedback even when he isn't posting is that Confused2 is a troll unsure.gif
-C2

I'm not even going to respond to that. You must be smoking crack or schizophrenic if you think that this discussion isn't off-topic...
Confused2
OK. Let's take this very slowly..

The reason why Latroscarius gets negative feedback when he isn't posting is :-

?
vkamath
QUOTE (confused2+)
OK. Let's take this very slowly..

The reason why Latroscarius gets negative feedback when he isn't posting is :-


biggrin.gif

3 people

1)NOM
2)Alpha (banned)
3)Dallas (banned)

1 reason - they are compulsive negative feedback givers. They have given so many negatives to so many people, that their feedback has lost all meaning. A waste of effort.
BigDumbWeirdo
QUOTE (vkamath+Mar 1 2008, 02:01 PM)
QUOTE (confused2+)
OK. Let's take this very slowly..

The reason why Latroscarius gets negative feedback when he isn't posting is :-


biggrin.gif

3 people

1)NOM
2)Alpha (banned)
3)Dallas (banned)

1 reason - they are compulsive negative feedback givers. They have given so many negatives to so many people, that their feedback has lost all meaning. A waste of effort.

Very true, but all three of them contributed real science to this forum. All three participated in discussions.
And all three have possed "cranks" before, for various reason, too.
I agree that they go a little neg happy, but I personally can't fault them for that. There are so many people posting lies, hypocrisy, bullsh*t, emotional venting and other such tripe in this forum, it's easy to get carried away.
Lat has a POS from me, because of this post.
In fact, C2 must have known this, considering the fact that the very next pos in Lat's feedback is from him.
Not just a strawman, but an obvious strawman.
Apparently, C2 is more concerned with winning an argument with me than actually being right about something, else he would not have stooped to such illogical measures.
Thank you for providing the correct answer, vk. I may offer excuses for it, but I don't deny it.
vkamath
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+)
I agree that they go a little neg happy, but I personally can't fault them for that. There are so many people posting lies, hypocrisy, bullsh*t, emotional venting and other such tripe in this forum, it's easy to get carried away.

neg happy. Yep thats the right word. smile.gif

QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+)
Thank you for providing the correct answer, vk. I may offer excuses for it, but I don't deny it.

Thanks. This is why you are the oooriginal BDW. smile.gif
Confused2
QUOTE (BDW's signature+)
The man with the world renowned ability to teeeease others from afar. :-D
The Ooooriginal Big, Dumb, WEIRDO!!!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the former." -A.E.
As illustrated by:
"I understand [papers on String Theory] plenty. Enough to know they're abstract babble that offers no value." -Farsight
And:
"Yup, any set of beliefs held by any group of people (including communism, business ethics, all sciences, democracy, atheism and every institution known to man) qualify for the definition of "religion". " -deadbeat
And:
"I am not a belittler at heart." -Dibedy
And:
"Intelligent Design makes more (DNA) sense, than Evolution, etc has ever made. " - SHEOL
Proud recipient of negative feedback from: DavidD, on2thiests, einstienear, PJParent001, Dibedy, StevenA, ubavontuba, inQZtive, •SHEOL•, ArchAngel, Mr. Robin Parsons... Quick, get on the list before it's too late!


A good result whatever the reason smile.gif .

-C2.
Trippy
QUOTE (Latrosicarius+Feb 29 2008, 10:04 AM)
I didn't say or mean to imply that I was not going to read this thread. Only that I don't really care what retorts are made... I don't really want to spend the time trying to argue a losing battle.

But I will clarify this, BigDumbWeirdo: this thread was more directed at those members of the FM that routinely give me negative FB, just for the sake of doing it.

I have in the past, said things that were stupid or wrong, and those negs were well deserved. So in likewise fashion with your point #4, I do not have a problem with you or the rest of the FM either... (yet?)

Cheers.

And yet... A quick Perusal of your feedback reveals that there was only ONE user who left you regular negative feedback while you were gone (NOM).

Sheesh, at least try and get your facts a little straight.
Trippy
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Mar 1 2008, 06:18 AM)
Thanks for the defense, bm. (To be perfectly honest, that evidence was of me talking engineering, but since engineering needs physics to an incredible degree, I think it's still good. laugh.gif )
As for why I provoke the cranks, it's because when I first came here, one of the cranks appeared in my first thread to make wild claims about physics, presented as immutable facts. I was at first unsure whether he was a crank or a real scientist speaking on a level of understanding above mine (though I suspected crank.)
If I did not have the level of knowledge I do in regards to physics, I might have believed him, and spread such information elsewhere (whenever a question of physics [or any other academic subject, really] arises among my friends and coworkers, I am usually considered the "go-to" guy for a correct answer.)
I see this as unjustifiable, and so I provoke the cranks in order to make it apparent what their true colors are.
As for C2, he ignored an effort on my part to mend fences and declare a truce between us, instead choosing to use something I said in another discussion to put forth a lie, and criticize me for the very behavior he was engaging in at that moment, not to mention lending support to a bigoted schizophrenic (MRP) arguing with me in that discussion.
And then he comes here, trolling this thread in order to accuse me and others of being trolls! I've seen reasons to try and maintain good relations with C2, but every time I start to think I should do so, he does something like this, and gives me an even better reason not to.

I second that motion.
Confused2
I have never seen any reason to maintain 'good relations' with a bunch of playground bullies.

@BDW - welcome to the 13-year-old and over playground.

@Trippy - whenever you're ready.

-C2.
Sapo
A'ight, tough guy! wink.gif What you gotta prove? (Lordy, I wish we could do accents in text!)

C2, you've been offered not only an olive branch, but breakfast! anima_kulture says he's cooking. rolleyes.gif Spam and Eggs Benedict, wasn't it, my friend? wink.gif

THEY has brownies in the oven, and BDW has snake on the grill! How could you miss the party?
Trippy
QUOTE (Confused2+Mar 2 2008, 12:16 PM)
I have never seen any reason to maintain 'good relations' with a bunch of playground bullies.

@BDW - welcome to the 13-year-old and over playground.

@Trippy - whenever you're ready.

-C2.

Whatever.

When you're ready to apologize for making false accusations (I also believe that I'm not the only person you owe apologies).
Sir Carnage
QUOTE (Gehn+Feb 28 2008, 07:57 PM)
You're just showing your anger toward the FM by posting something like that.

- Gehn biggrin.gif

Duuuuh, you reckon?....how long did it take you to figure THAT out?

The post was about him/her expressing her true opinions of the matter, which was manly composed of anger...what you did there was merely repeating what she said in different words.......

Sir
N O M
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 2 2008, 11:44 AM)
And yet... A quick Perusal of your feedback reveals that there was only ONE user who left you regular negative feedback while you were gone (NOM).

... and it had the desired effect laugh.gif
Gehn
QUOTE (Sir Carnage+Mar 2 2008, 08:02 AM)
Duuuuh, you reckon?....how long did it take you to figure THAT out?

The post was about him/her expressing her true opinions of the matter, which was manly composed of anger...what you did there was merely repeating what she said in different words.......

Sir

Well, if you had read his post, you would have seen that he tried to pass off the FM as a joke.

Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

- Gehn biggrin.gif
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