I'd at least be paranoid

Well, if you are right. It won't be long before they come for you to silence you for exposing them. They will probably just reactivate philip336's probe
Yes quite right. I don't expect to see summer and my expose wasn't enough to save me either.
monadnock
6th April 2007 - 07:42 PM
NANOTECHNOLOGY IS THE ZYKLON B OF THE 21ST CENTURY AND FURTHER IT IS AN UNRECOGNIZED MAJOR CAUSE OF HEART DISEASE.
YOU HEARD IT FIRST HERE!
monadnock
30th April 2007 - 08:50 PM
Although humans have been exposed to airborne nanosized particles (NSPs; < 100 nm) throughout their evolutionary stages, such exposure has increased dramatically over the last century due to anthropogenic sources. The rapidly developing field of nanotechnology is likely to become yet another source through inhalation, ingestion, skin uptake, and injection of engineered nanomaterials. Information about safety and potential hazards is urgently needed. Results of older bio-kinetic studies with NSPs and newer epidemiologic and toxicologic studies with airborne ultrafine particles can be viewed as the basis for the expanding field of nanotoxicology, which can be defined as safety evaluation of engineered nanostructures and nanodevices. Collectively, some emerging concepts of nanotoxicology can be identified from the results of these studies. When inhaled, specific sizes of NSPs are efficiently deposited by diffusional mechanisms in all regions of the respiratory tract. The small size facilitates uptake into cells and transcytosis across epithelial and endothelial cells into the blood and lymph circulation to reach potentially sensitive target sites such as bone marrow, lymph nodes, spleen, and heart. Access to the central nervous system and ganglia via translocation along axons and dendrites of neurons has also been observed. NSPs penetrating the skin distribute via uptake into lymphatic channels.
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PERSPECTIVES: EXTRACT
N O M
30th April 2007 - 09:33 PM
You are quite right that "humans have been exposed to airborne nanosized particles (NSPs; < 100 nm) throughout their evolutionary stages". Buckytubes and buckyballs are present in soot, so we have been exposed to tem as long as we have had fire. Many natural clays and minerals naturally form nanoparticles.
The nanoparticles are only a problem when they are released into the environment. There is no excuse for deliberate polution. However, most comercial nanopowders are currently processed into larger products. THey are not dumped as nanopowders.
monadnock
4th May 2007 - 03:51 PM
Surfactant nanoparticles in many products can be excited over extended distances. This deliberate releases and inhalation of nanovapors are particulates which are not considered in current studies.
The body's natural defenses are readily penetrated as evolution did not prepare biological organisms for this onslaught anymore than the body's natural defenses are prepared for synthetics such as asbestos or VX.
N O M
7th May 2007 - 04:01 AM
Asbestos is a natural product. Doesn't make it safe though.
monadnock
10th May 2007 - 10:58 AM
Yes, you are quite right. Asbestos is a naturally occurring mineral. I was referring to the concentrations from commercialization of the product.
monadnock
27th June 2007 - 12:02 AM
EXTRA JUDICIAL KILLINGS IN THE UNITED STATES LINKED TO NEW TECHNOLOGY
(Ingnews) The United States Government is engaged in Extra Judicial Killings within the domestic United States according to a former Army Captain.
Former Army Captain Marjorie Lorsbach says the government has developed the ability to excite (cause a reaction) and cavitate (implode) surfactant nanoparticles over extended distances which, when inhaled, destroy the arteries and capillaries of the heart through repeated exposure. The particles enter through the sinuses, the naso-pharynx and into the circulatory system or directly through the lungs into the coronary arteries and heart muscle, damaging and destroying the tissues. The inhalations of these nanovapors also result in fatal heat arrhythmias, Lorsbach said. The capillaries of the blood-brain barrier, which usually protects the brain, are also neutralized negating its natural protection.
These particles are now found in thousands of products ranging from building materials such as glass, plastics, and even wood surfaces to metals and other manmade substances and have been incorporated as part of the manufacturing process.
Lorsbach, the first transsexual army officer, said she had been subjected to attacks in her own home as well as cars in which she has driven and became familiar with the technology as a result. “These agents have literally exploded in my face and are part of a heinous and covert program of EJK’s (Extra Judicial Killings) within the United States,” the former officer said. She continued, “ these killings are going undetected as there is no routine testing for nanosized particles (NSP’s) in medical examinations and Nanotoxicology is a nascent science. It requires very specific tests such as Atomic Force Measurement, Scanning Electronic Microscopy or other highly sophisticated tests and only a few laboratories within the country have that ability. That is exactly why the technology has been developed.”
These particles have the capability of attacking specific organs within the human body, said Lorsbach. Not only are they inducing heart attacks but they are also damaging other organs since nano sized particles have the ability to enter human cells and repeated exposure damages the vascular system, liver and other organs. “This has also happened to several friends in my home as well as my animals,” she said. “It is painful and shocking experience after the particles are inhaled and penetrate into the sinuses, blood vessels and into the arteries and tissues of the heart. “ It is virtually indescribable as these events occur,” she said.
Thousands of products already contain nanodots and she believes that they have been introduced primarily, to induce disease. With medicine advancing and most infectious diseases under control in the industrialized world, life style has become the new umbrella for the cause of heart disease, cancers and other illness. “This serves as a cover for this type of operation,” she said. “ We have seen what the government has done in the past using its own troops as well as average citizens for radiation, chemical and drug experiments. This is what they are doing now,” she said. “ Who better to experiment on, in their minds, than a member of an unpopular minority who has held their feet to the fire on this issue.”
Mechanochemistry is the science of the implosion of nanodots causing them to release the chemical vapors. Cavitation releases these particles into the environment of homes and is responsible for a significant portion of the polluted air found there. A human hair is 80,000 nanometers in width.
These particles are site specific in the body and can accumulate in the arteries, heart, liver and other organs resulting in premature aging, organ failure and death. Even bed sheets and clothes are covered with these billionths of a meter bomblets waiting to go off. Sleeping people are even more susceptible because they are immobile and breathing air in a closed environment.
She said that chemicals had exploded repeatedly her bedroom and that she had felt chemical reactions within her body as a result. She said that her health had declined significantly and that she hasn’t slept in her bedroom now in months. “Rarely do I spend time in my house, or even sleep there and most of my time is spent outdoors,” the former officer said. “On multiple occasions, these nanochemicals have exploded in my face while in my bed followed by vehicles peeling out and speeding away,” the she said.
Further, she continued, companies under the guise of Confidential Business Information have dumped nanotechnology onto the market and information withheld from oversight agencies, the public and the media.
After undergoing transsexual surgery she forced her reinstatement at a Pentagon hearing after receiving a falsified, predated discharged from the Army Reserve. Originally an infantry officer before the surgery, she became a Civil Affairs Officer after undergoing sex reassignment. Lorsbach said she resigned her commission after 16 years because of human rights violations by the military, which she observed. She was told that she was, “The subject of DIA matters by an officer at the Pentagon.” The DIA is the Defense Intelligence Agency and is comparable to the CIA.
She said the military was aware of the condition when she joined the Army as they provided information to her Republican opponents when she was a Democratic candidate for municipal council, she said. Although she was never gay she said that the gender dichotomy extended back to earliest childhood. She said that the confusion disappeared for a period of time but again resurfaced later in life. Medical testing revealed an unusual male and female chromosomal genetic pattern and unusually high estrogen levels.
She said that discrimination she faced was from the command level rather than from regular soldiers and that they were unconcerned about her transsexual surgery. “ I encountered the Asst Secretary of the Army for Manpower outside my condo on Rittenhouse Square recognized him and heard him say to his aide, “Where is this person?” as we passed on the street while his aide stared and smiled. Absolutely amazing that he would come here from Washington to eyeball me,” she said.
She said she recognized that most people would find it difficult to accept that the United States Government is engaged in this type of outrageous behavior and that it was difficult for her to accept as well. “Nevertheless, the facts are incontrovertible,” she said.
“Once, when meeting a friend at a Cherry Hill nightspot a man came out, held a camera in my face, snapped the flash and said to me “Candid Camera.” When I went out to my car and put the key in the ignition chemicals exploded in my face from the steering wheel. I regained consciousness on the pavement, vomiting, my new car smashed up. Good thing I was drinking bottled water” she said. She said that chemicals were also exploded around her in the school in which she taught and that students had smelled an unusual odor. This was also responsible for an incident in which she was involved in Berlin, NJ, she said.
She believes she was targeted because of the precedent setting nature of her case, her continued support of litigation, her appearances in national television interviews and the fact that the military was forced to pay retroactive salary. “That is tangential however, as these particles have been incorporated into every conceivable product. That is the real threat to the general population,” she said.
“When I was stationed at the JFK Special Warfare Center at Ft. Bragg, NC it was common knowledge that the largest domestic Covert Operations Center commanded by a Four Star General was located there and there was also a Covert Operations Center at Lakehurst Naval Air Station, New Jersey, the former captain said.
She said that when she was discussing how the chemicals interacted with things in daily environment like caffeine, alcohol or cigarette smoke with a superior officer, she was ordered to remain silent and not to discuss classified information outside secure areas. “As far as I’m concerned,” Lorsbach said, “ the deliberate murder of Americans and the means to do it is not a classified subject. It is a criminal enterprise which should be thoroughly investigated.”
“Is this their solution to the Social Security crisis and the retirement of the baby boomers, or population control, she asked? Heart Attacks? “Population Management and Demographic Redistribution.” It couldn’t happen here in the United States?” Paranoia?” asked the former NJ National Guard officer, who holds several degrees. “Well it can happen and it does,” she said. “ There are High Tech Death Squads operating in the United States not with guns, that’s too obvious, but with chemicals and New Technology.”
This is the kind of thing that happens when there is too much money and too little oversight as well as a complacent population with an ingrained false sense of security,” Lorsbach said. “A constitution and a law is only as good as the people charged with enforcing it,” she said.
END…
SEE ADDENDUM
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Although humans have been exposed to airborne nanosized particles (NSPs; < 100 nm) throughout their evolutionary stages, such exposure has increased dramatically over the last century due to anthropogenic sources. The rapidly developing field of nanotechnology is likely to become yet another source through inhalation, ingestion, skin uptake, and injection of engineered nanomaterials. Information about safety and potential hazards is urgently needed. Results of older bio-kinetic studies with NSPs and newer epidemiologic and toxicologic studies with airborne ultrafine particles can be viewed as the basis for the expanding field of nanotoxicology, which can be defined as safety evaluation of engineered nanostructures and nanodevices. Collectively, some emerging concepts of nanotoxicology can be identified from the results of these studies. When inhaled, specific sizes of NSPs are efficiently deposited by diffusional mechanisms in all regions of the respiratory tract. The small size facilitates uptake into cells and transcytosis across epithelial and endothelial cells into the blood and lymph circulation to reach potentially sensitive target sites such as bone marrow, lymph nodes, spleen, and heart. Access to the central nervous system and ganglia via translocation along axons and dendrites of neurons has also been observed. NSPs penetrating the skin distribute via uptake into lymphatic channels.
Specifically, the FDA has expressed concerns about the safety of nanoparticles, particularly because as particle size gets smaller, there may be negative or unanticipated effects on biochemical activity. Those size-specific effects could involve nanoparticles gaining access to tissues and cells that would be impenetrable by larger particles, or nanoparticles remaining in human tissues for unknown periods of time. The FDA is also concerned that scientists don't yet know how nanoparticles are cleared from tissues and blood, or how different particles might affect different types of cells. Finally, how might various nanoparticles interact with one another, and is there a maximum number of nanoparticles that the human body can tolerate?
Nanoparticles play a role in dozens of products many Americans already use. Scientists estimate between 350 and 700 products manufactured in at least 17 different countries on the market employ nanotech. As of October 2006, the FDA estimates that more than 60 cosmetics and 20 dietary supplements employ nanotech, but these numbers have probably already been surpassed. Building materials, glass, plastics, clothing, bedding, blankets, sleeping bags, mattresses, television and computer plastics surfaces, furniture, tents, major appliances, and furniture all contain nanoparticles.
“Engineered nanoparticles are being used in virtually every type of personal care product on the market, from sunscreens and anti-aging creams to toothpastes, despite preliminary scientific evidence that many types of nanoparticles can be toxic,” said Lisa Archer, Senior Health and Environment Campaigner with Friends of the Earth U.S. “Corporations should stop marketing nano-laced products until these materials are proven safe and stop treating their customers like guinea pigs.”
monadnock
27th June 2007 - 12:05 AM
A NUTCASE Thread Huh?
CIA LISTS ATROCITIES AGAINST AMERICANS
WASHINGTON - The CIA released hundreds of pages of internal reports Tuesday on
assassination plots, secret drug testing and spying on Americans that triggered
a scandal in the mid-1970s.
The documents detail assassination plots against foreign leaders such as Fidel
Castro, the testing of mind-altering drugs like LSD on unwitting citizens,
wiretapping of U.S. journalists, spying on civil rights and anti-Vietnam war
protesters, opening of mail between the United States and the Soviet Union and
China and break-ins at the homes of ex-CIA employees and others.
THAT WAS THEN AND THIS IS NOW
monadnock
29th July 2007 - 02:50 PM
"According to an article from newscientist, scientists have devised a system to use microwave energy for surveillance. If people are speaking inside the room, any flimsy surface, such as clothing, will be vibrating. This modulates the radio beam reflected from the surface. Although the radio reflection that passes back through the wall is extremely faint, the kind of electronic extraction and signal cleaning tricks used by NASA to decode signals in space can be used to extract speech.
This is the principle by which surveillance is being conducted and nanoparticles are being excited and cavitated.
N O M
30th July 2007 - 12:47 AM
QUOTE (monadnock+Apr 6 2007, 11:39 AM)
QUOTE (N O M+)

Well, if you are right. It won't be long before they come for you to silence you for exposing them.
Yes quite right. I don't expect to see summer and my expose wasn't enough to save me either.
Having a nice summer monadnock?
monadnock
30th July 2007 - 11:11 AM
As a matter of fact NOM I am Not. I have been attacked many times and am preparing to leave the United States. I have not slept in my house since March and and have not slept in a bed since October. I sleep outside with my dogs near the lake on my property!
N O M
30th July 2007 - 09:43 PM
That's certainly not going to protect you from the microwaves. I recommend underground
monadnock
4th August 2007 - 04:36 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Jul 30 2007, 09:43 PM)
That's certainly not going to protect you from the microwaves. I recommend underground
You are quite right NOM. An underground or hardened facility are the only places which are secure. However, I don't intend to spend the rest of my days in one of them!
monadnock
4th August 2007 - 05:18 PM
Washington, DC -- With the joint release today of Principles for the Oversight of Nanotechnologies and Nanomaterials, a broad international coalition of consumer, public health, environmental, labor, and civil society organizations spanning six continents called for strong, comprehensive oversight of the new technology and its products.
The manufacture of products using nanotechnology--a powerful platform for manipulating matter at the level of atoms and molecules in order to alter properties--has exploded in recent years. Hundreds of consumer products incorporating nanomaterials are now on the market, including cosmetics, sunscreens, sporting goods, clothing, electronics, baby and infant products, and food and food packaging. But evidence indicates that current nanomaterials may pose significant health, safety, and environmental hazards. In addition, the profound social, economic, and ethical challenges posed by nano-scale technologies have yet to be addressed.
As Chee Yoke Ling of the Third World Network explained, "Materials engineered at the nano-scale can exhibit fundamentally different properties-including toxicity-with unknown effects. Current research raises red flags that demand precautionary action and further study." She added, "As there are now hundreds of products containing nanomaterials in commerce, the public, workers, and the environment are being exposed to these unlabeled, and in most cases, untested materials."
http://www.icta.org/press/release.cfm?news_id=26LIST OF PRODUCTS:
http://www.nanotechproject.org/index.php?i...iew&p=0&rpp=all
N O M
5th August 2007 - 09:51 AM
That's a very long way from your claims of mass murder conducted by the US gov using nanotech.
monadnock
5th August 2007 - 03:38 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Aug 5 2007, 09:51 AM)
That's a very long way from your claims of mass murder conducted by the US gov using nanotech.
No, it isn't.
The nanoparticles incorporated into consumer products as well as auto and building materials have been deliberately included into the products. They are then excited and cavited for inhalation via the communications network enabling individuals and groups to be targeted.
This is the principle for surveillance and particle excitation:
"According to an article from Newscientist, scientists have devised a system to use microwave energy for surveillance. If people are speaking inside the room, any flimsy surface, such as clothing, will be vibrating. This modulates the radio beam reflected from the surface. Although the radio reflection that passes back through the wall is extremely faint, the kind of electronic extraction and signal cleaning tricks used by NASA to decode signals in space can be used to extract speech.
N O M
5th August 2007 - 09:22 PM
There is a constant background of microwave radiation, always has been. Many nanoparticles are naturally occuring.
Using microwaves for surveilance isn't that startling.
monadnock you are just a paranoid loony. They aren't out to get you or anyone else, it is just paranoia. I suggest you get some professional help before you hurt yourself or others.
monadnock
5th August 2007 - 10:49 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Aug 5 2007, 09:22 PM)
There is a constant background of microwave radiation, always has been. Many nanoparticles are naturally occuring.
Using microwaves for surveilance isn't that startling.
monadnock you are just a paranoid loony. They aren't out to get you or anyone else, it is just paranoia. I suggest you get some professional help before you hurt yourself or others.
And I suggest that you open that closed little mind of yours.
PORCUPINE
5th August 2007 - 11:05 PM
NSP's are an extremely dangerous commodity and should be treated as such. No further
release into products should be permitted until the issues of toxicity and purpose have been throughly examined.
Furthermore, the products into which they have been incorporated should be packaged with an inclusion that they contain nanosized particles. Safety first!
Swords0fWrath
20th August 2007 - 02:15 AM
No one's doing anything to stop this madness?
N O M
20th August 2007 - 11:47 PM
QUOTE (Swords0fWrath+Aug 20 2007, 02:15 PM)
No one's doing anything to stop this madness?
Doing all I can
Mirrorman
21st August 2007 - 01:42 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+Aug 5 2007, 10:49 PM)
And I suggest that you open that closed little mind of yours.
Be thankful at least that your mind isn't closed.;-) Of course a mind can sometimes be too open, yet just ask yourself if the idea of the controlling authorities having ever done anything against their own peoples. Perish the thought eh? Just joking. History is full of the manipulators who see a chance for power and will not have a care in the world about the rights of others.
So the question is, is what you are saying possible yet. Well, I think the possibility is there, but whether it has been envisaged yet I don't know. Once the natural frequencies required to instill any particular attitude through the manipulation of the brain has been worked out, and devices that trigger the right responses have been divised, then we can ask if anyone would have an agenda for using such a device.
Devices that put thoughts into our brains, and make us think they are our own eh?
We've done alright with the good old skill called Persuasion till now, so why the need for a device?! Perhaps persuasion always was a collection of nano molecules that overcame the mind of someone else. A lot of people walk around believing what they have been told to believe, and when questioned they don't even know why they believe such a thing.
monadnock
26th August 2007 - 11:47 PM
I am incredulous that any agency would ever approve the incorporation of these particles into this panopoly of products without analyzing all of the possible implications and permutations of their effect on human health.
One day, this will be a milestone in human ignorance!
N O M
27th August 2007 - 04:04 AM
QUOTE (monadnock+Aug 27 2007, 11:47 AM)
One day, this will be a milestone in human ignorance!
Not wrong there. Your posts are certainly a major leap in gullible paranoid stupidity.
monadnock
27th August 2007 - 09:20 AM
QUOTE (N O M+Aug 27 2007, 04:04 AM)
Not wrong there. Your posts are certainly a major leap in gullible paranoid stupidity.
More prattle from a "closed lttle mind."
N O M
28th August 2007 - 12:55 AM
That is a compliment from a git who accuses the country that is conducting the most worthwhile medical research in the world of murdering its citizens.
Your pathetic accusations aren't just paranoid and stupid, they are obcene. You personally insult thousands of people that you aren't worthy of being used as toiletpaper by.
You, monadnock, are a tosser.
monadnock
7th September 2007 - 11:50 AM
QUOTE (N O M+Aug 28 2007, 12:55 AM)
That is a compliment from a git who accuses the country that is conducting the most worthwhile medical research in the world of murdering its citizens.
Your pathetic accusations aren't just paranoid and stupid, they are obcene. You personally insult thousands of people that you aren't worthy of being used as toiletpaper by.
You, monadnock, are a tosser.
Ah, what is the only country to use nuclear weapons and DU against human beings?
If you are going to use "big" words like obscene then learn to spell.
monadnock
7th September 2007 - 07:41 PM
"So what does cause heart attacks? There is compelling and overwhelming evidence to suggest that inflammation is seen in every case of heart attack and stroke and is the fundamental cause of atherosclerosis. Cell-based experiments and studies on both humans and animals all confirm this — and the evidence is growing.
One recent study stated it this way: Inflammation plays a central role at every stage of atherosclerosis, from beginning to end."
NewsMaxmedia.com
And this is exactly the damage that exposure to nanoparticles does to the human body.
N O M
9th September 2007 - 09:13 AM
And you call that proof that the US is deliberately killing its citizens
Zarabtul
10th September 2007 - 08:00 PM
yes....
I can give you proof.
Would you like me to continue I mean hey you are the one that gave me a neg. comment today after not being on the board in like almost a week at least a few days for sure and after making a response about quantum mechnics in one of my games....
so what's your game just defame people who tell the truth....
makes for a good scientific community....
l8 chump.
N O M
10th September 2007 - 08:31 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+Sep 7 2007, 11:50 PM)
Ah, what is the only country to use nuclear weapons and DU against human beings?
And yet those nukes have sat unused for over 60 years. But the US has lost wars while still not using its nukes.
DU on humans? No, it is used in anti missile and anti tank weapons. I'm not going to defend this use though, since I think it is bad for the environment.
monadnock
10th September 2007 - 09:45 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Sep 10 2007, 08:31 PM)
And yet those nukes have sat unused for over 60 years. But the US has lost wars while still not using its nukes.
DU on humans? No, it is used in anti missile and anti tank weapons. I'm not going to defend this use though, since I think it is bad for the environment.
Your history is as poor as your spelling.
The UNited States used 2 nuclear weapons against human beings. Once in Hiroshima and again in Nagasaki. DU upon impact becomes a toxic radioactive dust which contaminates targets, personnel and civilians who come into contact with it. It also leaches into water supplies and becomes airborne particles.
Don't lecture me on military history or on covert operations. I was a Captain in Special Operations.
N O M
10th September 2007 - 11:40 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+Sep 11 2007, 09:45 AM)
Your history is as poor as your spelling.
I dont giv a fart abot youar komplaints abot speling.
I'm well aware of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but they are over 60 years ago, as I said.
QUOTE
Don't lecture me on military history or on covert operations. I was a Captain in Special Operations.
I believe that as little as I believe your paranoid ravings about the US murdering its citizens. You are a liar, a fraud and a total fruitcake.
monadnock
10th September 2007 - 11:48 PM
OCS, Ft. Benning, and Ft. Bragg. That child, is how I know what has been happening, and why I posted at this site. And now, I have wasted enough time.
N O M
11th September 2007 - 01:27 AM
QUOTE (monadnock+Sep 11 2007, 11:48 AM)
And now, I have wasted enough time.
Finally you say someting true
monadnock
11th September 2007 - 03:11 AM
QUOTE (Zarabtul+Sep 10 2007, 08:00 PM)
yes....
I can give you proof.
Would you like me to continue I mean hey you are the one that gave me a neg. comment today after not being on the board in like almost a week at least a few days for sure and after making a response about quantum mechnics in one of my games....
so what's your game just defame people who tell the truth....
makes for a good scientific community....
l8 chump.
This is the type of game that an individual with inferior intellect would utilize. Don't worry about his criticism they are as meaningless as his posts.
N O M
12th September 2007 - 02:00 AM
QUOTE (Zarabtul+Sep 11 2007, 08:00 AM)
I can give you proof.
Proof away.
QUOTE
so what's your game just defame people who tell the truth....
If you had any basis in truth, whatsoever, you could post it. You would win your argument. But since you and monogonad are nothing but posing loonies no proof is ever shown.
landon
12th September 2007 - 03:50 AM
banana boy
Zarabtul
13th September 2007 - 11:16 AM
I've got strict orders to prove nothing to or for anyone who works with or for your group of friends and will continue to not do so so stay out of a thread and you may learm science....
N O M
14th September 2007 - 03:50 AM
That has to be one of the most pathetic cop-outs ever used Zarabtul.
PORCUPINE
17th September 2007 - 01:53 AM
I have been following the discussion regarding the covert usage of nanotechnology
against individuals. This technology has become pervasive in a number of consumer products and the potential certainly exists. I would also like to thank the OP for pointing out the dangers and the possibility of abuse of this new and ever expanding technology.
N O M
19th September 2007 - 02:22 AM
monadnock isn't merely pointing out possible dangers. He is accusing the US government of using nanotechnology to murder hundreds of thousands of its citizens.
There is a huge difference between a remote risk with a new technology and deliberate mass murder. Especially since the technology to commit this murder doesn't exist, yet.
monadnock
19th September 2007 - 09:03 AM
That is exactly correct; Je accuse le Government des L'Etats Unis. Further, the technology does exist and is being utilized to induce disease and death in the US population. It is classfied information which I have placed in the public domain..
N O M
20th September 2007 - 03:25 AM
And yet if there were even a nanoparticle of truth in your paranoid delusion, shutting down this thread or even site would be trivial to them. Yet that hasn't happened.
Tracking you down wouldn't be hard, yet that hasn't happened.
The US govt will be aware of this thread. Not hard to search on paranoid sickos like you monadnock, especially when they own the main web servers. Your feeble claim to be special forces will have been checked too. Had this a nanoparticle of truth, they would see you as a threat regardless of whether your paranoid drivel was true or not. But since you are nothing but a lying loser with no grasp on reality, they no you are no threat to anything. So you are quite safe.
monadnock
22nd September 2007 - 12:38 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Sep 20 2007, 03:25 AM)
And yet if there were even a nanoparticle of truth in your paranoid delusion, shutting down this thread or even site would be trivial to them. Yet that hasn't happened.
Tracking you down wouldn't be hard, yet that hasn't happened.
The US govt will be aware of this thread. Not hard to search on paranoid sickos like you monadnock, especially when they own the main web servers. Your feeble claim to be special forces will have been checked too. Had this a nanoparticle of truth, they would see you as a threat regardless of whether your paranoid drivel was true or not. But since you are nothing but a lying loser with no grasp on reality, they no you are no threat to anything. So you are quite safe.
Wrong, sweetheart, they are all over me.
I certainly hope that they never start cavitating these particles in YOUR face. It is a life changing event. See you sometime in the future from somewhere outside the US!
Catch you on the farside!
N O M
23rd September 2007 - 09:00 AM
QUOTE (monadnock+Sep 23 2007, 12:38 AM)
Catch you on the farside!
No problems there. You are already well and truly in the farside
PORCUPINE
4th October 2007 - 05:11 PM
I have been following the OP's posts and I believe that there is substance to the allegations.
WASHINGTON, Oct. 3 — When the Justice Department publicly declared torture “abhorrent” in a legal opinion in December 2004, the Bush administration appeared to have abandoned its assertion of nearly unlimited presidential authority to order brutal interrogations.
But soon after Alberto R. Gonzales’s arrival as attorney general in February 2005, the Justice Department issued another opinion, this one in secret. It was a very different document, according to officials briefed on it, an expansive endorsement of the harshest interrogation techniques ever used by the Central Intelligence Agency.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/washingt...serland&emc=rss
N O M
4th October 2007 - 08:22 PM
So they have some dodgy practices trying to prevent people from continuing to comit mass murder.
That has nothin whatsoever to do with monadnock's paranoid fantasies of nanotechnology currently being used by the government to murder hundreds of thousands of it's own citizens. Do you actually believe "there is substance to these allegations"?
PORCUPINE
5th October 2007 - 01:03 AM
These are not simply the OP's allegations they are also corroborated by allegations of a special operations officer quoted in several articles. I also believe that the United States is engaged in murder as well as torture but I do not know the extent to which these violations occur.
PORCUPINE
10th October 2007 - 08:18 PM
I came across this and thought that it was apropo and lends further credibility to the OP's contention.
Open Letter to the FDA to Stop Corporations from Lacing Foods, Body Care Products, & Supplements with Dangerous Nanoparticles
By Ronnie Cummins, National Director
Organic Consumers Association, Sept 23, 2006
Acting FDA Commissioner Andrew C. Von Eschenbach
Division of Dockets Management (HFA-305)
Food and Drug Administration
5630 Fishers Lane, Room 1061
Rockville, MD 20852
Dear Commissioner Von Eschenbach,
I write to express my serious concerns about the FDA's regulatory oversight of nanomaterials in consumer products. Many consumer products containing engineered nanomaterials are already available on U.S. market shelves, including food and food packaging products.
Millions of dollars are being spent by government and industry to apply nanotechnology in areas of food processing, food packaging, and agricultural production. Current nano-food products on the market include a canola oil, a chocolate "slim" shake, a nano-bread, and several nano-food additives and supplements used in soft drinks, lemonades, fruit juices, and margarines. Many food packaging products use nano-composites, nano-clays, and nano-coatings. In addition, if industry observers are correct, hundreds of more new food and agriculture products are under development and many could be on the market in as few as two years. By 2010 the nano-food market will be $20 billion. Many of the world's leading food companies - including H.J. Heinz, Nestle, Hershey, Unilever, and Kraft - are investing heavily in nanotechnology applications.
Scientists have found that the fundamental properties of matter can change at the nano-scale, creating physical and chemical properties distinct from those of the same material in bulk form. We know that the new properties of nanomaterials create new risks, like enhanced toxicity. Studies have raised numerous red flags, and many types of nanoparticles have proven to be toxic to human tissue and cells.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_2790.cfm
Hillbilly Target
14th November 2007 - 02:30 AM
Hi Newbie Here,
I would first like to thank monadnock for the nanomolecular murder article. I guess I should be making last request soon. I have been a target for roughly 4.5 years now. The popping sounds have become a common everyday part of my life. In case some of this information may help or enlighten anyone I would like to share what experience has taught me.
Method 1. The particle bombardment can be metered by an old army surplus field survey meter. I have purchased 4 meters all have been vandalized (Victoreen Instrument Co. Item#CDV-715) i guess so reading could not be used or compiled for later reference.
Method 2. A night vision device with a phosphor screen will show flashing streaks of light under very low light conditions.
Method 3. Using a high output flashlight like a Brinkmann Halogen, the byproduct of the particle bombardment can be viewed. It will appear to look like dust or small fibers in the air.
Method 5. Using a digital camera with a zeon flash after dark, place the camera just above your belt line, look straight out into the abyss and shoot a pic. If what you see looks like sparklers...there is your sign.
Method 4. A RF detector or a microwave leakage detector can be used as detection methods of RF and Microwave.
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Question 1. I have some images I would like to share if anyone would be kind enough to tell me how to and what size would be best to use.
Question 2. I noticed that an apartment located about 100 yards from my home showed some discoloration of the siding. Using a fluke infrared temp gage it will read 0 degrees C when its 20 degrees C ambient...what's up with that?
Question 3. I have a lot of distracting sounds like dogs barking, chickens clucking, birds singing...what's up with that?
Question 4. I have a lot of traffic around when I'm on the road. To much signaling, breaking and bright headlights...what's up with that?
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I'm new at this so please forgive me being a newbie. I truly hope my experience will help my fellow man. I have spent over 4 years looking for what I have read here this afternoon. So few know the real truth and we are truly an endangered species. "The truth will set you free." funny that's posted in the CIA's lobby.
N O M
19th November 2007 - 12:34 AM
QUOTE (Hillbilly Target+)
I have been a target for roughly 4.5 years now
LOONEY ALERT!
DANGER! DANGER!!
monadnock
14th March 2008 - 02:23 AM
I have left the United States and regret to report that the US Government's electronic capability to excite and cavitate surfactant nanoparticles for inhalation is far more extensive than I have previously reported and extends beyond the territorial boundaries of the United States.
N O M
14th March 2008 - 07:51 AM
No. It only proves that you are still a paranoid loony.
Get some professional help. You are a danger to yourself and others. Personally I couldn't care less about you, but you are likely to hurt some innocent person.
TheDoc
14th March 2008 - 05:20 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 14 2008, 07:51 AM)
No. It only proves that you are still a paranoid loony.
Get some professional help. You are a danger to yourself and others. Personally I couldn't care less about you, but you are likely to hurt some innocent person.
Agreed. You, mondranock, are in need of some powerful antipsychotics.
yor_on
15th March 2008 - 06:28 PM
Hillbillie.
Q. 1. the best way would be to try to feed them into that gray cable that goes to your Internetprovider. You can always use a shredder first to secure its contains.
(Just remember to number the pieces)
Q 2. actually It's the paint i think. intelligent and highly predatory.
The military are testing it all over the place. Area 59 you know (say no more)
Q3. Don't worry, perfectly normal.
It's our new 'early warning system.'
Targeted for protecting aliens getting lost in the country side.
We don't want them to use them disintegration's rays on our Earth, do we?
Q4. Oh, so you haven't got the Code book yet then?
You will get a good laugh when you do.
(That's why you see all those friendly faces in the morning traffic.
They got it, you see.)
N O M
16th March 2008 - 11:44 PM
QUOTE (monobraincell+)
I have left the United States
So when you left, did you lose the passwords for your Hillbilly Target and PORCUPINE accounts?
It's hardly surprising that you need to create your own little friends to suport your paranoid ravings. The only other suport you've ever had here was from the nutter philip210, who makes even fruit loops like you look sane
TheDoc
17th March 2008 - 12:45 AM
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 16 2008, 11:44 PM)
QUOTE (monobraincell+)
I have left the United States
So when you left, did you lose the passwords for your Hillbilly Target and PORCUPINE accounts?
It's hardly surprising that you need to create your own little friends to suport your paranoid ravings. The only other suport you've ever had here was from the nutter philip210, who makes even fruit loops like you look sane
monadnock
26th March 2008 - 11:03 AM
I can't imagine why the ownership of this forum permits you to post NOM.
You are an obnoxious, small minded poster incapable of imaginative thinking whose only contributions seem to be in haranguing those who do contribute!
As a student of history and having served as an officer in Special Operations as well as in elective office I know what the US Government is capable of while you, on the other hand, have a civics textbook knowledge of government.
Enjoy your myopic perspective of science and life!
TheDoc
26th March 2008 - 07:31 PM
QUOTE (mondranock+)
I can't imagine why the ownership of this forum permits you to post NOM.
Why? Because you don't like what he says?
QUOTE
You are an obnoxious, small minded poster incapable of imaginative thinking whose only contributions seem to be in haranguing those who do contribute!
...Whereas you are an equally obnoxious, paranoid, lying, delusional idiot who is preaching doom on an internet forum.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| You are an obnoxious, small minded poster incapable of imaginative thinking whose only contributions seem to be in haranguing those who do contribute! |
...Whereas you are an equally obnoxious, paranoid, lying, delusional idiot who is preaching doom on an internet forum.
As a student of history and having served as an officer in Special Operations as well as in elective office I know what the US Government is capable of while you, on the other hand, have a civics textbook knowledge of government.
As a person who has the superficial trappings of sanity, I think you're a liar and an idiot.
BigDumbWeirdo
26th March 2008 - 08:03 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+Mar 26 2008, 06:03 AM)
As a student of history and
having served as an officer in Special Operations as well as in elective office I know what the US Government is capable of while you, on the other hand, have a civics textbook knowledge of government.
No-one who's actually served as an officer in any SOCOM unit would describe it as "Special operations."
They'd say they were such and such an MOS, AFSC, or NEC, or that they'd been such and such a rank, in such and such a unit. Or they'd make a reference to being a Snake-Eater; a common nickname for elite soldiers.
For instance, I was an MOS 18-B E5 Sgt in the US Army 10th Special Forces Group.
Or: I have more recipes for fried rattler than you could shake a stick at.
Did you note the specific nature of that claim? It can be checked, if you have access to the various resources needed in order to do such checking.
Such generic claims as yours are the hallmark of lies.
N O M
26th March 2008 - 11:59 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+Mar 27 2008, 12:03 AM)
As a student of history and having served as an officer in Special Operations as well as in elective office
The closest you have ever been to actually being in the special forces was the boy scouts.
oh, and I wasn't aware the blackboard monitor counted as "elective office"
QUOTE
Enjoy your myopic perspective of science and life!
EnjoySuffer in your paranoid fantasy world, nutter.
monadnock
27th March 2008 - 05:58 PM
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Mar 26 2008, 08:03 PM)
No-one who's actually served as an officer in any SOCOM unit would describe it as "Special operations."
They'd say they were such and such an MOS, AFSC, or NEC, or that they'd been such and such a rank, in such and such a unit. Or they'd make a reference to being a Snake-Eater; a common nickname for elite soldiers.
For instance,
I was an MOS 18-B E5 Sgt in the US Army 10th Special Forces Group.Or:
I have more recipes for fried rattler than you could shake a stick at.Did you note the specific nature of that claim? It can be checked, if you have access to the various resources needed in order to do such checking.
Such generic claims as yours are the hallmark of lies.
The rank was Captain, CA., Benning and Bragg. I was also a Senatorial aide as well as a political and economic analyst.
...AND FRANKLY, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK OR WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
I gave you a heads up, Take it or leave it. Have a nice day!
TheDoc
27th March 2008 - 06:14 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+)
...AND FRANKLY, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK OR WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
I just love it when trolls explode
QUOTE
I gave you a heads up, Take it or leave it. Have a nice day!
Whatever, loser
N O M
27th March 2008 - 07:26 PM
There was a loser who was in a club I was part of couple of decades ago. He would tell anyone who would listen that he was in the SAS. We just ignored him. At a party one night, there were some army people present. This idiot tried his usual story on them, expecting them to be impressed. They weren't. The next morning he was found in a ditch outside, severely bruised. He never tried his SAS story again.
BigDumbWeirdo
27th March 2008 - 08:10 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 27 2008, 02:26 PM)
There was a loser who was in a club I was part of couple of decades ago. He would tell anyone who would listen that he was in the SAS. We just ignored him. At a party one night, there were some army people present. This idiot tried his usual story on them, expecting them to be impressed. They weren't. The next morning he was found in a ditch outside, severely bruised. He never tried his SAS story again.
I used to work in a bar a few years ago, and this guy started showing up one day in BDUs¹ claiming to have been an 18-B² on medical leave due to being wounded in combat in Afghanistan (despite the fact that he obviously wasn't suffering from any injuries). At first, I didn't have much interaction with him, but after he'd been showing up for a few weeks, someone mentioned I would enjoy talking to him, as he was supposedly an 18-B like I'd been. Well, after being told that, I spoke to him, asked him about his training and his experience in the military, and I compiled a list of evidence against his story.
1: He claimed to have been a part of the 10th SFG, which would mean several things
a: he would have spoken a European language, such as German, French or Italian.
b: he would have had a green beret.
In fact, he had a black baret and claimed to speak Arabic.
2: He describesd his MOS as "Unconventional Infantry" when the proper description is "Special Weapons Seargent" or "Special Weapons Soldier."
3: He described air assault school as being part of the requisite training, which is a popular misconception, even among enlisted men. It is not, although the completion of air assault school is worth quite a few points towards a promotion to Staff Seargent, and is a requisite of ranger school.
4: He claimed to have been stationed in Kuwait (the 10th SFG operates in Europe) and at Paris Island (home of the marine's infantry school.)
5: He was a big guy, about 6'5" and at least 250lbs. Those guys are about as common in Special Forces as a pacifist.
6: He didn't know what a "Snake Eater" was.
7: He had no dork-like qualities. Most of the Special Forces soldiers I've met are (or were) HUGE dorks. Discussions about Dungeons & Dragons and the comparative virtues of Cpt. Kirk vs Cpt. Picard abounded during my time in the X-course*. (The acepted reason, as far as I know, is that dorks enlist because they have something to prove. When given the option of taking an 18-X deal [which is a direct shot into special forces] they almost always agree. The reason so many of them complete all their training and get their green is because the training requires more tactical thinking, creativity, attention to detail, and teamwork than physical prowess, an attribute set more easily found in geeks than in jocks.)
When I explained all of this to the regulars at the bar, they encouraged me to call him out, which I did. He claimed I didn't know what I was talking about and threatened me physically.
After the cops finished scraping him off the floor, the owners banned him from the bar for life, and emailed pictures of him (from the security cameras) to all the other local bars, so he couldn't drink there, either. We later found out he'd been making the rounds for over a year, going to a bar regularly for a few months, getting free drinks for his "service and patriotism," and then moving on when the novelty of having a "real-life" green beret in the bar wore off.
¹ BDU = Battle Dress Uniform. It's the uniform soldiers wear in the field.
² All special forces MOS' start with 18. An 18-B is an SF soldier trained in a variety of weapons, from the standard M-4 carbine, to the M-82 sniper rifle, to the AK-47, to the machete.
* The X-course is the specific training course for the MOS you've been assigned in Special Forces. In my case (18-B ) it was all about various weapons and small-unit tactics. This course does not include the requisite training required for entry into the special forces.
N O M
27th March 2008 - 10:30 PM
BigDumbWeirdo, I was just wondering ...
Let's just suppose that this idiot monadnock is actually telling us the truth. So:
- He's a relatively high rank veteran of the US special forces
- He was a political aide, presumably as part of the military, so he would be privy to sensitive information
- As ex-special forces, he would be a highly trained killer, adept at many weapons, hand-to-hand and demolitions.
This is someone who obviously hates the US. He claims, in this thread, that the US govt is currently mass-murdering its citizens. He is displaying a dangerous level of paranoia.
Wouldn't the US military, security and law enforcement be rather interested in such a dangerous individual?
Moomin
28th March 2008 - 03:19 AM
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 27 2008, 10:30 PM)
Let's just suppose that this idiot monadnock is actually telling us the truth.
Well, he most genuinely exhibits gross nanomolecular inactivation of the brain.
TheDoc
28th March 2008 - 05:14 AM
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+)
When I explained all of this to the regulars at the bar, they encouraged me to call him out, which I did. He claimed I didn't know what I was talking about and threatened me physically.
After the cops finished scraping him off the floor...
I nearly fell out of my chair after reading that
QUOTE (N O M+)
- He's a relatively high rank veteran of the US special forces
- He was a political aide, presumably as part of the military, so he would be privy to sensitive information
- As ex-special forces, he would be a highly trained killer, adept at many weapons, hand-to-hand and demolitions.
This is someone who obviously hates the US. He claims, in this thread, that the US govt is currently mass-murdering its citizens. He is displaying a dangerous level of paranoia.
Wouldn't the US military, security and law enforcement be rather interested in such a dangerous individual?
Yes, they would. Only problem is, monadnock never did any of those things. He's just some pathetic, lying paranoid wacko who thinks that the US is secretly conspiring against it's people.
N O M
28th March 2008 - 07:46 AM
QUOTE (TheDoc+Mar 28 2008, 06:14 PM)
Yes, they would. Only problem is, monadnock never did any of those things. He's just some pathetic, lying paranoid wacko who thinks that the US is secretly conspiring against it's people.
I agree. I think he is a loser who is lying about this. As I sid above, the closest he has been to being special forces is the boy scouts. Though I doubt he managed any merit badges
But I thought, purely as an academic exercise, I would bring up the wild possibility that he was telling the truth.

Oh no

that means the nano stuff too, aagh!!!

....
BigDumbWeirdo
28th March 2008 - 04:08 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Mar 27 2008, 05:30 PM)
BigDumbWeirdo, I was just wondering ...
Let's just suppose that this idiot monadnock is actually telling us the truth. So:
- He's a relatively high rank veteran of the US special forces
- He was a political aide, presumably as part of the military, so he would be privy to sensitive information
- As ex-special forces, he would be a highly trained killer, adept at many weapons, hand-to-hand and demolitions.
This is someone who obviously hates the US. He claims, in this thread, that the US govt is currently mass-murdering its citizens. He is displaying a dangerous level of paranoia.
Wouldn't the US military, security and law enforcement be rather interested in such a dangerous individual?
I don't know if you guys (N O M and TheDoc) were aware, but I actually posted a challenge to monondock which he (of course) refused to accept.
I said "Who was the Command Seargent Major in charge of the X-course from 1981-1997? Anyone who'd EVER eaten grass at Ft. Bragg would know the answer, and it's not something you can look up online."
He of course, claimed he had no intention of "taking orders" or some other ridiculous characterization of my challenge, at which point I noted that a "Grass-eater" was a dismount (infantry who are assigned a humvee or to a tank, it's pretty much the standard MOS in urban combat) who thought that having been accepted into, but failing at the X-course put him above the level of his squad-mates, and on a level with a real SF soldier, and that any SOCOM soldier would have taken grave offense at that. I didn't tell him that there qwas another "trick" to the question, which he's still apparently not gotten. And a third that I'm saving as backup.

Also, anyone who has any indicators of schizophrenia or paranoid delusions of other sorts would have been excluded from SOCOM. Any former SF soldier who displayed such indicators would be required by the terms of his non-disclosure agreement to voluntarily check himself into the nearest government-approved, veterans mental hospital. Failure to do so would result in arrest, being charged with breach of contract, and being setenced to said mental healthcare facility for a period of several years.
Oh, and YES, the NSA does exist, and they WILL find out if a former SF soldier goes nutzo. I've seen it happen. (On the news, not in real life.)
TheDoc
28th March 2008 - 05:26 PM
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Mar 28 2008, 04:08 PM)
I don't know if you guys (N O M and TheDoc) were aware, but I actually posted a challenge to monondock which he (of course) refused to accept.
I said "Who was the Command Seargent Major in charge of the X-course from 1981-1997? Anyone who'd EVER eaten grass at Ft. Bragg would know the answer, and it's not something you can look up online."
He of course, claimed he had no intention of "taking orders" or some other ridiculous characterization of my challenge, at which point I noted that a "Grass-eater" was a dismount (infantry who are assigned a humvee or to a tank, it's pretty much the standard MOS in urban combat) who thought that having been accepted into, but failing at the X-course put him above the level of his squad-mates, and on a level with a real SF soldier, and that any SOCOM soldier would have taken grave offense at that. I didn't tell him that there qwas another "trick" to the question, which he's still apparently not gotten. And a third that I'm saving as backup.

Also, anyone who has any indicators of schizophrenia or paranoid delusions of other sorts would have been excluded from SOCOM. Any former SF soldier who displayed such indicators would be required by the terms of his non-disclosure agreement to voluntarily check himself into the nearest government-approved, veterans mental hospital. Failure to do so would result in arrest, being charged with breach of contract, and being setenced to said mental healthcare facility for a period of several years.
Oh, and YES, the NSA does exist, and they WILL find out if a former SF soldier goes nutzo. I've seen it happen. (On the news, not in real life.)
Could we call this conclusive proof tha monadnock is a lying, pathetic, paranoid nutter?
N O M
29th March 2008 - 09:26 AM
QUOTE (BigDumbWeirdo+Mar 29 2008, 05:08 AM)
Also, anyone who has any indicators of schizophrenia or paranoid delusions of other sorts would have been excluded from SOCOM. Any former SF soldier who displayed such indicators would be required by the terms of his non-disclosure agreement to voluntarily check himself into the nearest government-approved, veterans mental hospital. Failure to do so would result in arrest, being charged with breach of contract, and being setenced to said mental healthcare facility for a period of several years.
Oh, and YES, the NSA does exist, and they WILL find out if a former SF soldier goes nutzo. I've seen it happen. (On the news, not in real life.)
I thought so.
So, if he is not a lying basket and a nutter, he's a nutter. The poor individuals who have suffered from shell-shock and other combat related afflictions are to be pitied and helped by society. But due to their experience, they are still heroes. The parasites like monadnaroc, who try and claim some of the credit due to heroes are despicable scum. They are on a level nearly as low as child mollesters.
So, back to the OP.
Do you have enough social skills left to understand that monadnaroc? Just how low you are? How cowardly? How stupid? How pathetic? - you loser.
N O M
6th April 2008 - 09:02 AM
One whole week, and still no reply from the loony coward monadnarock. Maybe he has realised it's illegal to falsely claim to be a military veteran in the US.
deadbeat
6th April 2008 - 06:10 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Apr 6 2008, 09:02 AM)
One whole week, and still no reply from the loony coward monadnarock. Maybe he has realised it's illegal to falsely claim to be a military veteran in the US.
Is it really? I know a policeman or Fireman or Government worker, but never heard falsely claiming to be a Veteran was Illegal.
I Like it. But under what statute?
N O M
6th April 2008 - 08:59 PM
OK, maybe it's not. I'm not American, so I really don't care. But it is cowardly and disrespectful to the real veterans.
But monorock is guilty of libel. He falsely claims the US government is guilty of currently actively murdering its own citizens. He is using the lie that he is a special forces veteran to back this up.
deadbeat
6th April 2008 - 10:48 PM
QUOTE (N O M+Apr 6 2008, 08:59 PM)
OK, maybe it's not. I'm not American, so I really don't care. But it is cowardly and disrespectful to the real veterans.
But monorock is guilty of libel. He falsely claims the US government is guilty of currently actively murdering its own citizens. He is using the lie that he is a special forces veteran to back this up.
Oh I see. Yes it is despicable, and for all I know it MAY be illegal. Not certain of that though.
monadnock
11th May 2008 - 08:26 PM
QUOTE (TheDoc+Mar 28 2008, 05:26 PM)
Could we call this conclusive proof tha monadnock is a lying, pathetic, paranoid nutter?
Let me tell you "people" a few things.
I don't recall the name of the CSM at SWC in 91, anymore than I recall the name of my CO at Bragg and he was famous as the Major who investigated the murder of American nuns killed on airport road in El Salvador and who appeared on the McNeill-Lehrer News Hour. I do recall, however, that I lived in the Q on the sixth floor and shared the AO with foreign students.
I am a woman, and an officer who served 20 years and accomplished contributions to public policy which you couldn't imagine unless you saw interviews with me in the 1990's.
Furthermore, I didn't respond because I don't owe anyone here an explanation for anything and couldn't care less as to what you think.
As to my allegations, and the heads up which I gave you, it's sadly true.
Take it or leave it!
TheDoc
11th May 2008 - 08:30 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+)
I am a woman, and an officer who served 20 years and accomplished contributions to public policy which you couldn't imagine unless you saw interviews with me in the 1990's.
Oh? Do tell - what "contributions" have you made to public policy?
QUOTE
Furthermore, I didn't respond because I don't owe anyone here an explanation for anything and couldn't care less as to what you think.
Do you honestly think that
we care about the mindless ramblings you spout?
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Furthermore, I didn't respond because I don't owe anyone here an explanation for anything and couldn't care less as to what you think. |
Do you honestly think that
we care about the mindless ramblings you spout?
As to my allegations, and the heads up which I gave you, it's sadly true.
Too bad you can't prove any of it
QUOTE
Take it or leave it!
I'll leave it, thanks.
N O M
11th May 2008 - 08:51 PM
QUOTE (monadnock+May 12 2008, 08:26 AM)
Furthermore, I didn't respond because I don't owe anyone here an explanation for anything and couldn't care less as to what you think.
Garbage. You are accusing many people of mass-murder. So you certainly do need to provide an explaination. Or an apology.
But the explaination is easy. You are a fraud. You are lying. You are a spineless paranoid loser.
monadnock
21st May 2008 - 12:55 AM
Understand???
Effects of Nanotubes May Lead to Cancer, Study Says
Microscopic, high-tech "nanotubes" that are being made for use in a wide variety of consumer products cause the same kind of damage in the body as asbestos does, according to a study in mice that is raising alarms among workplace safety experts and others.
Within days of being injected into mice, the nanotubes -- which are increasingly used in electronic components, sporting goods and dozens of other products -- triggered a kind of cellular reaction that over a period of years typically leads to mesothelioma, a fatal form of cancer, researchers said.
Only longer versions of the vanishingly small fibers have that toxic effect, the study found. And further experiments must be done to prove that the engineered motes can cause problems when inhaled, the way most people might be exposed to them.
But the preliminary evidence of cancer risk is strong enough to justify urgent follow-up tests and government guidance for nano factory workers, who are most likely to be exposed, experts said. Others called for labels to guide consumers or recyclers, who might encounter the material when incinerating or otherwise destroying discarded nano products.
"In a sense, we are forewarned and forearmed now with respect to nanotubes," said Anthony Seaton of the Institute of Occupational Medicine in Edinburgh, Scotland, who contributed to the research, published in yesterday's online edition of the journal Nature Nanotechnology. "We know that some of them probably have the potential to cause mesothelioma. So those sorts of materials need to be handled very carefully."
The research comes at a crucial time in the science, business and regulation of nanotechnology, a promising new field that involves the creation of particles a few billionths of a meter in diameter.
Such minuscule bits of material behave very differently than larger pieces of the very same substances. So while some kinds of carbon in chunks do not conduct electricity well, for example, nanotubes made of carbon atoms conduct it easily, making them useful in computer components and other materials that would be harmed by a buildup of static charges.
Companies around the world have begun to churn out thousands of tons of nanomaterials per year, including nanotubes, spherical nanoscale "Buckyballs" and other engineered specks called quantum dots, which show promise in medical diagnosis. Nanotubes alone are expected to be a $2 billion industry within the next few years.
But that production frenzy has raised concerns because the materials are being regulated on the basis of what they are made of -- such as "carbon" -- even though, by virtue of their size, some pose very different health and environmental risks.
The amount of government money going into environmental and health impacts of nanomaterials has been far outweighed by federal spending to support the fledgling industry. That is an issue Congress is currently wrestling with as it prepares to reauthorize the National Nanotechnology Initiative, which has been pumping about $1.5 billion a year into research, with only about 5 percent focused directly on health and safety.
"We've got to have the right research and really fast," said Andrew Maynard of the Project on Emerging Nanotechnologies in Washington, a co-author of the new research report. "We've got to have a strategy in place. But no matter what the government says, if you look at it, there is not a clear vision of where they need to be or a plan of how to get there."
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