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Your fellow human (yfh)
http://www.physorg.com/news63301569.html

I think that future nanofactories will hold incredible power for the nation.
Steveo
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I think that future nanofactories will hold incredible power for the nation.


Nanofactories are a long long way off! This is a research lab, and research labs aren't very efficient at making things. A nanofactory would have to be cost effective....and nanotechnology as people think of it now, is not at that level, unfortunately.....and look at the semiconductor industry. The infrastructure required to do this work is very very expensive!
This dream is still a few decades away in my opinion.
Your fellow human (yfh)
QUOTE (Steveo+Apr 6 2006, 09:41 PM)
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I think that future nanofactories will hold incredible power for the nation.


Nanofactories are a long long way off! This is a research lab, and research labs aren't very efficient at making things. A nanofactory would have to be cost effective....and nanotechnology as people think of it now, is not at that level, unfortunately.....and look at the semiconductor industry. The infrastructure required to do this work is very very expensive!
This dream is still a few decades away in my opinion.

I know that it was a lab, as the thread title said "nanolabs".

Fast and efficient molecular construction would make the global economy flop. If molecular construction got advanced enough, everything else would be inferior.

Ray Kurzweil predicted things about molecular construction -- that I didn't feel were as near as he imagined. For example: I think any portable molecular constructor device would be very beurocratic, and harder to get a lisence for then a gun is.

Anyways, enough about distant future possabilities in molecular construction.

What industry do you think holds the most power in civilization right now?
Oil & gas is a big, big one, but that's fuel, and I was wondering:
Do power/fuel industries hold the most powerful position economically? Or do the food producers hold the most power?
Your fellow human (yfh)
http://news.com.com/Nanotech+Is+it+soup+ye..._3-5911096.html

More info/news about the modern economics/funding of nanotech here^.
If I read strait...
wil
John Johnson Posted: Feb 26 2006, 11:22 PM




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WWW.CLEANTECHNANO.COM

This company is a joke. They have been claiming to have a great process for disposing of all different kinds of waste with the by product being carbon.

Their latest claim of producing such pure Nanotubes is somewhat like Smoke and Mirrors magic tricks.

This company has been selling dreams, and promising their investors a great payback every year.

Most people invested in this company have heard this same old song and dance for 10+ years now.

If they have such a great process and product, why haven't they taken the company public?

This company's management should be investigated.

If you are invested in this company, email them and see if you can get a straight answer to your question.

They can make all the claims and reports they want to.
The bottom line to CleanTechNano.com, is SHOW US THE MONEY not another report.


Donnie Posted: Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM




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CLEANTEHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?


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QUOTE (Donnie @ Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM)


CLEANTECHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?


CLEANTECHNANO.COMand CLEANTECHNOW.COM

Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
Nanotube Technology is starting to get exciting.
Too bad Cleantechnano can't get their act together and start walking the walk, not just talking the talk.


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John Johnson Posted: Feb 26 2006, 11:22 PM

WWW.CLEANTECHNANO.COM

This company is a joke. They have been claiming to have a great process for disposing of all different kinds of waste with the by product being carbon.

Their latest claim of producing such pure Nanotubes is somewhat like Smoke and Mirrors magic tricks.

This company has been selling dreams, and promising their investors a great payback every year.

Most people invested in this company have heard this same old song and dance for 10+ years now.

If they have such a great process and product, why haven't they taken the company public?

This company's management should be investigated.

If you are invested in this company, email them and see if you can get a straight answer to your question.

They can make all the claims and reports they want to.
The bottom line to CleanTechNano.com, is SHOW US THE MONEY not another report.


Donnie Posted: Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM


CLEANTEHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?

Guest_Roger Posted: Mar 4 2006, 10:41 PM

QUOTE (Donnie @ Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM)


CLEANTECHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?



CLEANTECHNANO.COMand CLEANTECHNOW.COM

Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
Nanotube Technology is starting to get exciting.
Too bad Cleantechnano can't get their act together and start walking the walk, not just talking the talk.




John J Posted: Mar 8 2006, 12:31 PM




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WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

Here we go again. Check out their latest Web site. Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
How many Web sites do they need ?
If they have a good product, put it on the market and sell it.
Hopefully they will share some of the profits with their investors.
This company is getting more confusing every day.
Check their new Web site www.carbonnanofibers.com and see what you think.


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QUOTE (John J @ Mar 8 2006, 12:31 PM)
WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

Here we go again. Check out their latest Web site. Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
How many Web sites do they need ?
If they have a good product, put it on the market and sell it.
Hopefully they will share some of the profits with their investors.
This company is getting more confusing every day.
Check their new Web site www.carbonnanofibers.com and see what you think.

WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM
WWW.CEANTECHNANO.COM
WWW.CLEANTECHNOW.COM

Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
This has turned out to be the worst investment I also have made. I too have a bad feeling this may be a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check them out, email the top people and ask them what's going on with the company.
Maybe it's time for a change in the top management of this company. This company has potential. Why is the top management not taking the steps necessary to take the company public? Hard working people have invested in this company because they believed the company was on the right track. Now we are just wondering what happened to the track.
What happened to having a share holders meeting?
This company could at least let it's investors know what's going on.


John J Posted: Mar 26 2006, 02:57 PM




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QUOTE (John J @ Mar 8 2006, 12:31 PM)
WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

Here we go again. Check out their latest Web site. Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
How many Web sites do they need ?
If they have a good product, put it on the market and sell it.
Hopefully they will share some of the profits with their investors.
This company is getting more confusing every day.
Check their new Web site www.carbonnanofibers.com and see what you think.

Maybe it's time for a change in the top management of this company.
www.cleantechnano.com
www.cleantechnow.com
www.carbonnanofibers.com

How do you vote the current management out and replace them with more of a progressive management team that will find a way to repay the investors????


Andy S Posted: Mar 26 2006, 07:33 PM




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New management is difficult when current management owns a majority interest. If the product is real then you just need some patience - good things come to those who wait and rolling out a brand new and revolutionary process or product is not as easy as selling hot dogs or beer at a ball game. If the product is not real then by the end of this year it will become evident.

It does no one any good to offer these sour grapes and accusations - either provide evidence that the process is a fraud or have some patience. Investing in this type of start-up is, by definition, a high-risk investment but risk and reward are generally directly proportional so be patient and do not throw stones at those who are trying to make you money. If you wanted an investment with a quick return then you should not have invested in a start-up technology venture!

If you know any facts about the process or any misinformation that the company has provided then please share the information.

Thank You,


Will Posted: Mar 29 2006, 12:28 AM




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QUOTE (Andy S @ Mar 26 2006, 07:33 PM)
New management is difficult when current management owns a majority interest. If the product is real then you just need some patience - good things come to those who wait and rolling out a brand new and revolutionary process or product is not as easy as selling hot dogs or beer at a ball game. If the product is not real then by the end of this year it will become evident.

It does no one any good to offer these sour grapes and accusations - either provide evidence that the process is a fraud or have some patience. Investing in this type of start-up is, by definition, a high-risk investment but risk and reward are generally directly proportional so be patient and do not throw stones at those who are trying to make you money. If you wanted an investment with a quick return then you should not have invested in a start-up technology venture!

If you know any facts about the process or any misinformation that the company has provided then please share the information.

Thank You,

How do you vote the current management out and replace them with more of a
Progressive management team that will find a way to repay the investors????

New management is difficult when current management owns a majority interest.

If this is the true, then everyone that has invested in this company has
absolutely zero input, or right's on their investment and the way the company is being managed. I wonder how many investors were told this before they invested?
Does this mean they don't have to hold a share holders meeting?
Does this mean the company doesn’t have to let its investors know what's going on?
Grapes can be turned into some of the finest wine ever tasted.
If this process is flawed or it takes too long, then the result is vinegar.
The investors have had nothing but the bitter taste of vinegar for a long time.
It takes patience to hear the same old song and dance for 10+ years.
You stated, If you wanted an investment with a quick return then you should not have invested in a start-up technology venture!

Yes I think all of the investors would have to agree that they should have never invested in this type of company some 10 years later with a ZERO return on their investments.


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When you invest in stock for a company, you should sometimes, either go online, to that place, or visit them if you can.

This is your money, you are an investor, you have a right to know.



Jack Posted: Apr 11 2006, 04:35 PM




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Ditto to all the above.

Every contact I've made with this company has been-" In about X more weeks we're going to go public" or " We are going to be ...... " or "We are just about to ........." or -- some song and dance that would lead you to believe you made a wise investment.

All investment with zero return is not what I call a wise investment. Apparently a sham!


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Ditto to all the above.

Every contact I've made with this company has been-" In about X more weeks we're going to go public" or " We are going to be ...... " or "We are just about to ........." or -- some song and dance that would lead you to believe you made a wise investment.

All investment with zero return is not what I call a wise investment. Apparently a sham!


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WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

DARRELL, MATTIE, People believed what was said at the 2006 shareholders meeting. Please don't let 2006, be another year of broken promises.
DARRELL, once you had the respect and admiration of everyone who invested
in the company. Everyone believed in you. Be the man we all once respected and trusted. Give the investors a 2006 Christmas present.
It can happen, It should happen, So It's up to you to make it happen.

philip347
I feel that there has to be an environmental address top the new product of nanotechnologies, per-say.

This is because, this material, more than likely in some way, with finds its own way to disposal areas.

These structures, when smashed or dumped, yield powders so fine, that they can easily pass through most plant or animal cell walls.

There will have to be an honest approach, in a two way fashion, both disposer and manufacturer, on the subject of nanotechnology materials and how they will honestly affect the general environment, once left degraded?

Not to address this question, is either avoidance from a probable catastrophes fact, or sloth.

For example, note the beginning of the movie Screamer Two.

In the beginning of the movie, which deals with warring factions, in a distant planetary system, there seems to be strange activities, that are not understood as valid, via military intelligence.

What is not understood, are the actions of supposed controlled self intelligent battle robotics systems, known as the Screamers.
This is due to the distracting screaming sound, that they make, just before they attack.

In the beginning of the movie, a not known emissary of peace, tries to deliver a communications tube, to a remote outpost, which is guarded by the vicious screamers.

They attack and sever the arm of the message bearer.The communications tube, with holo-orders, is saved, prior to the screamers dragging their victim below ground.

What is presented within this movie, in a very skillful way, which is not apparent till later in the movie, is, was the message bearer of the communications tube, really a human, or a mere copy of one, to begin with?

The later question is also tossed out.

What happens in a nano-powders manufacturing plant, when abandoned materials, come into proximity of living tissue or plant matters.
These tiems have the potential of not only absorbing these disguarded super-fine powders, but adapting to them, within their biological range, of Mendelian applications?

Very big question, as you may end up with birds, that can peck through plate glass windows, worms that can tunnel through cement and steel, or rats that when packed together can attack and consume a human.

These postulates are only for beginning logic sets.

What happens when direction imbued nanobots, somehow get dumped on a remote computer control board.

Do these bots take their own initiative, and breed with this remote I.C. board?
guiding_light
Hope I am not bursting bubbles, but the only thing nano has got going for it is its exotic nature.

Otherwise, actually I would put less faith in systems that are getting simpler and simpler individually. There is less room to conduct electrons, phonons, etc. Or from another angle, tunneling is more important, and the idea of separating barriers becomes less meaningful.

I am not against nanoscience, but seriously doubt that they it is the only key to progress for mankind.

Most nanoscale behavior is also inherently surface contact-based, which also makes me feel that efficiency is not an expected outcome generally.
dboots
How can there be clean nanotechnology when the material they are producing
is non bio degradable????

Their has been speculation that the governments HAARP project, which is
an electromagnetic laser that uses extremely low frequencies (ELF's). The story
line is it is a tommy gun to shoot down pollution. But the undertow is that
it is really an experiment to attempt to take out of our atmosphere the
nanoparticles that already exist in our atmosphere.

Sorry, as a newbie, I am not allowed to post links. But go to Google Search
and enter the word HAARP. Their are 709,000 titles on the subject of
our governments HAARP PROJECT.

WELCOME TO THE PROVERBIAL "PANDORA'S BOX". You will see the pros and
cons of this HUGE project. They are in the final stages of building another
facility in Alaska to further their research concerning the project of HAARP.

But remember group, most federally funded programs NEVER TELL THE WHOLE
TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH of what actually their programs are
truly about.
Guest
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Their has been speculation that the governments HAARP project, which is
an electromagnetic laser that uses extremely low frequencies (ELF's). The story
line is it is a tommy gun to shoot down pollution. But the undertow is that
it is really an experiment to attempt to take out of our atmosphere the
nanoparticles that already exist in our atmosphere.


It is an interesting speculation, and HAARP is something to be aware of, but after checking www.crystalinks.com/haarp.html:

"Ionospheric heating cannot be performed while the sun illuminates the ionosphere for two reasons:Solar UV creates the ionospheric D-region, which absorbs the radio waves used for ionospheric heating. "

If this is true the attack window is pretty limited.
dboots
About night time. No sunlight.
Guest
I am thinking the radio waves bounce off the ionosphere and fry a target hundreds of miles away. Generally not a desired outcome.
dboots
philip347

I live in California. The tree species are dying all over the state. The trees are
in various stages of dying, but inside the wood is the coloring of the rust-red
of hematite. Some of the tree species it is in the bark. Our Hollywood Governor
recently funded a project to the tune of $800 million to see why the majestic
Oak species is dying in the state. None of that grant is see why any other
tree species is dying.
Also not all the tree species have this rust-red/orange red coloring in the wood.
But those species seem to be slowly dying also. Last year, Sacramento used
the excuse that beetle bugs was killing trees. I know enough about trees
and beetle bugs to know that they cannot kill the tree species they indicated
at the time unless that tree was already unhealthy in the first place.
The beetle bugs cannot destroyed a healthy tree in that manner.


And Guest

In the world of experiments, things don't always go as planned do they.
Frying targets hundreds of miles away is how they perfect the coordinates
in the end anyway isn't it??? No, not a desired outcome, but a possible
outcome nevertheless!!
Guest_Jim54
QUOTE (Your fellow human (yfh)+Apr 6 2006, 10:27 AM)
http://www.physorg.com/news63301569.html

I think that future nanofactories will hold incredible power for the nation.

WWW.CLEANTECHNANO.COM

DARRELL, glad to see you are still the same stubborn control freak in 2007,
that you have been for the past 10 years. DARRELL do everyone invested in this comapny a big favor, step down, turn control of the company over to someone
that will help the investors who have made it possible for you tho have what you have. Your time to make the right decision is now.



Zephir
QUOTE (Your fellow human (yfh)+Apr 6 2006, 01:27 PM)
I think that future nanofactories will hold incredible power for the nation.

Well, size matters..
dboots
Size basically is what it is all about.

Nanoparticles have the ability to volumnize, expand, create higher yields for products especially foods.

Whey a byproduct of cheese use to be a throw away waste product. Now this same
waste product using nanotechnology they have made it into a food preservative.

Cheese manufacturers are finding ways to clone milk and produce a bigger
cheese yield with less real milk and get twice as much cheese product.
This larger product yield is due to nanotechnology .

Nanolabs come in all sizes. Expensive they are not. And anything they want can
be produced in another country using cheaper products and our govt will allow it
on the market. Consumer be damned, money talks and all else walks.

And HAARP, WELL IT TURNS OUT HAARP IS ALSO A WEAPON USING AN
ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD AROUND EARTH. Being a laser using ELF's is only
one of her many many many many functions.
Jim54
QUOTE (Your fellow human (yfh)+Apr 6 2006, 10:27 AM)
http://www.physorg.com/news63301569.html

I think that future nanofactories will hold incredible power for the nation.

WWW.CLEANTECHNANO.COM is a company that could help.
The problem with this company is DARRELL. DARRELL has been holding www.cleantechnano.com back for 10 years now. There are alot of investors waiting on a return on their investments. It seems the only people making any money from www.cleantechnano.com is DARRELL, MATTIE, and a couple of other
in the loop people. DARRELL IT'S TIME YOU STEPPED DOWN. DARRELL turn cleantechnano over to someone that has the backbone to take this company to the top. DARRELL help the nation, and the investors, step down.
nanodude
QUOTE (dboots+Nov 17 2006, 02:45 AM)
philip347

I live in California. The tree species are dying all over the state. The trees are
in various stages of dying, but inside the wood is the coloring of the rust-red
of hematite. Some of the tree species it is in the bark. Our Hollywood Governor
recently funded a project to the tune of $800 million to see why the majestic
Oak species is dying in the state. None of that grant is see why any other
tree species is dying.
Also not all the tree species have this rust-red/orange red coloring in the wood.
But those species seem to be slowly dying also. Last year, Sacramento used
the excuse that beetle bugs was killing trees. I know enough about trees
and beetle bugs to know that they cannot kill the tree species they indicated
at the time unless that tree was already unhealthy in the first place.
The beetle bugs cannot destroyed a healthy tree in that manner.


And Guest

In the world of experiments, things don't always go as planned do they.
Frying targets hundreds of miles away is how they perfect the coordinates
in the end anyway isn't it??? No, not a desired outcome, but a possible
outcome nevertheless!!

hey folks,

I work in the nano field/factory, >the one someone said "does not exist" and yes, people want it. Need it, hmm? I do not know if we “need” it (nanotech)? It will certainly change our world for sure but we need to KNOW the dangers. We do not really know yet. (I and my co. are honest about that) UCLA + others will be helping with this type study too.

On the poor state of the trees and the planet, chalk up our soon to be hell to oil /energy over use + over population etc. (its not looking pretty folks)!

The trees are nearly all dead because TOO MANY DARN PEOPLE have pulled all the water out of the ground. It’s a plain and simple explanation. Plus all our damn pollution!

About HAARP? Maybe that is just another nail in the coffin but us humans have messed up this place bad and we need to get out of denial about it "collectively" and/or many of us will soon die!. We simply need too stop over breeding and burning up/killing everything in sight! You can take that to the bank and beyond!

I want to use nano tech to help save what’s left. (If I project out / use my crystal ball, it looks pretty bad) plain and simple. That’s why I work in the field. It’s in its first stages of development and the applications "seem" endless. I know it can radically increase efficiencies of many technologies but we need to use it WISELY and not for EVIL like us little apes often seem to do. If we get greedy and/or weapon-ize it we will screw it all up again.

I, most importantly want to impress how what we are doing now (overpopulation) will certainly kill off most the planet in the future. Our only real hope is to use nano + other technologies now in a positive way to save what’s left. We made a big big mess, now let’s clean it up!
board member here
My input contribution to this thread is, that it is the schooling that will make the proper nanolab of the present and future.

All materials will be kept in-plant.

All activated materials, shall be accounted for, once they have been activated.

All run-off, with respects to drill, may be shifted to other means of ,machines, such as an electron beam, or the use of lasers.

Air supplies in the working nanolab, shall either be closed breathing apparatus, or spelail manufacture, with concerns to the workers lungs.>Where there is too much of a danger in working with a certain material, then an industrial robot, should be used.

*Infractions so far.

Are any supposed nanomaterials producing plant, that emits raw nanomaterials into the environment?

Two, the notation of Morgellions disease, which may be a type of self intelligent crystalline growth, which has both its own mind and its own aims within any mammalian host.

*Special note.Morgellions, for all we know, might have been a product coming from outerspace, or a secret project, we all don't know about.

The construction of liths from the sore sites on the skin, are way too complex to be caused in a large number of peoples, as a result of a primary mental fugue.

So the actions of known Morgellions manifestations, may be from other action of infestational points?

You must understand, that Morgellions acts in the body and expresses itself, as if from either a software program, or a set mathematical series of crystal growth expression.

So this indicates that once in the body, that this said disease, follows its own construction protocols.
nanodude
QUOTE (board member here+Apr 8 2007, 05:06 PM)
My input contribution to this thread is, that it is the schooling that will make the proper nanolab of the present and future.

All materials will be kept in-plant.

All activated materials, shall be accounted for, once they have been activated.

All run-off, with respects to drill, may be shifted to other means of ,machines, such as an electron beam, or the use of lasers.

Air supplies in the working nanolab, shall either be closed breathing apparatus, or spelail manufacture, with concerns to the workers lungs.>Where there is too much of a danger in working with a certain material, then an industrial robot, should be used.

*Infractions so far.

Are any supposed nanomaterials producing plant, that emits raw nanomaterials into the environment?

Two, the notation of Morgellions disease, which may be a type of self intelligent crystalline growth, which has both its own mind and its own aims within any mammalian host.

*Special note.Morgellions, for all we know, might have been a product coming from outerspace, or a secret project, we all don't know about.

The construction of liths from the sore sites on the skin, are way too complex to be caused in a large number of peoples, as a result of a primary mental fugue.

So the actions of known Morgellions manifestations, may be from other action of infestational points?

You must understand, that Morgellions acts in the body and expresses itself, as if from either a software program, or a set mathematical series of crystal growth expression.

So this indicates that once in the body, that this said disease, follows its own construction protocols.

Board member,

You sound very well informed. Do you study in the field? I am glad you know and care about the chemical, biological, worker and environmental safety issues concerning nanotech.

We do not need it to end up like the oil and plastic’s industry has on safety and environmental impact scores. They are not very good.

Working in this field I am very concerned about increasing environmental and worker safety and lowering or eliminating exposure to both. I am going to work on some new filtering technologies to try and improve this area. What about nano recycling?
We need to consider and use nano recycling NOW!

The "infraction" point is well taken. I think we need far more study and more controls.
The respiratory areas are in need of new technology for far better filtering. I want to personally work in this area to improve and reduce exposure levels. Much work is needed.

I hope I have the oppritunity to meet more people like you who care about safety and the environment. This is KEY to success. Nanotechnology will be another dirty and dangerous technology all over again if we do not quickly understand and control this complex science. Please explain more on exposure and how I might provide better detection and filtering of nano particles.

Thank you!:)

nd

dboots
Nanodude


Lets not mislead the masses okay. It is becoming known in many states including
California, that especially from 1999 when testing the water, many states
the results are showing in the water besides rocket fuel, aluminum, barium and
a higher Specific Conductance which means abnormal magnetic properties in the
water supply. This water supply is those trees nutrients. So the tree is sucking
up to feed itself a water supply that is contaminated with higher levels of
metallic substances.

Lets not pretend it is because we are taking away the trees water supply,
and that is the only conclusion on why the trees are dying. That is a farce, it is
false because the trees had enough water in California. The trees have been
slowing dying for some time. Some tree species are becoming petrified as
this slow dying process has been taken effect. Petrified wood is formed when
crystal minerals replace the wood grain and actually mimic or clone the
wood grain structure. The mineral replaces the wood grain. This action has
absolutely nothing to do with no water to feed the trees. It has to do what
the heck is in the water supply that has made some of the water supply
a crystal mineral.

And please do not mislead the masses by pretending we humans make HAARP the monster she has become. HAARP was done behind our backs, without our approval by our Govt and funded by Big Business. We humans had no say in it.
The decision was made without our approval or knowledge. HAARP was an
experiment in a enclosed Quantum Physics lab that was brought outside of that lab
and they used as their new lab settings the entire atmosphere of which we breathe.


What we REALLY NEED is our government to stop doing taking their
Quantum Physics Experiments of Zero Point Energy, String Theory's,
How to tame Mothers Natures Beast of Tornado's and Twisters, Weather
Manipulation using Electromagnetic Fields and chem trails lacing the
clouds with metallic ultra fine dust powders and transparent gas liquids
that all the jets are Xing our skies, atmosphere, and our Oxygen supply with
just so they can create a reflecting and photographic surface of our clouds.

Their is absolutely positively no known process in the world that can be used
to do this to the clouds that is not harmful. What goes up, must come down.

Now it is becoming known that the fibers from Morgeollons is NANOWIRING
WHICH ALSO EFFECTS THE CLOUDS AND ATMOSPHERE BY THEIR NEVER
ENDING THIRST FOR EXPERIMENTING ON ANY THING POSSIBLE IN OUR
ATMOSPHERE, DEEP INSIDE EARTH, DEEP DARK COLD SPACE, THAT HAS
THE POTENTIAL FROM WHICH THEY MIGHT HARVEST ENERGY INCLUDING FOR
THE NEW WIRELESS ENERGY CONCEPTS THAT ARE EMERGING TO REDUCE
TERA HERTZ RADIATION.

This terahertz tech is 1,000 times faster than Wifi, and they have found a way
to use those nanowires in the atmosphere to produce direct current.

The majority of nanoparticles are NON BIO DEGRADABLE, WHICH MEANS
BEND OVER AND KISS OUR PLANET AND OURSELVES GOODBYE.

IT IS HUMANS WHOSE ONLY GOAL IS TO PUT AS MUCH MONEY IN THEIR POCKET
AND THEY DON'T CARE WHO GETS HURT IN THE PROCESS WHO IS CREATING
THIS PROBLEMS. BIG BUSINESS AND THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES WHO
ARE RUNNING THIS SHOW. President Bust and all of our other paid Representatives
are just puppets being manipulated with strings.

MONEY TALKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WALKS OR ELSE THEY BETTER BUY A
POWER SCOOTER IF THE DAMAGE THE HUGE CORPORATIONS HAVE ALREADY
DONE HAS TAKEN AWAY THEIR ABILITY TO GET AROUND BECAUSE
CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, SOMETHING UPSETTING OUR BODIES BIO
RHYTHMS AND CELL PROCESSES THAT INTERFERES WITH OUR HORMONES
PRODUCTION OF SEROTONIN, NORADRENALINE, DOPAMINE AND INSULIN TO NAME
A FEW.

people ARE GOING POSTAL FOR A REASON. Road rages, television programs
of people who have snapped.

Our bodies are telling us their is something wrong. Since our doctors have learned
to play god so long, most of them don't have the guts to say I DON'T KNOW.

Women's hormones especially are really being affected. They are finally started
to put this fact together with iron in the body and that SPECIFIC CONDUCTANCE
IS NOW APPEARING IN HUMANS BEINGS LAB RESULTS.

Seems lab work done during the day is not getting doctors any answers like
that someone is a diabetic. The lab work is not pointing the doctors to the right
conclusions. ALL OVER THE GLOBE, DIABETES IS OUT OF CONTROL. PEOPLE
ARE LOSING THEIR LIMBS AND DYING AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY
HAD DIABETES.

BUT LAB WORK DONE AT NIGHT IN EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE SHOWING QUITE A
DIFFERENT STORY CONCERNING LAB RESULTS. And these are the lucky folks.
Their doctors after releasing them from the hospital had follow up lab work done
that showed every things a okay. Then these people end back up in emergency
rooms and everything is not okay. Their seems to be something that is
causing flu like symptoms of sweating, fever, nausea and the finger is pointing
at our atmosphere and energy being produced in our atmosphere that is
upsetting the body, and causing problems between how our protein and cell
processes interact.

A lot of these problems has to do with BECAUSE IT IS IN THE WATER SUPPLY
TOO.

The plant species dying was our first clue. The BEES THAT ARE DYING OVER THE
COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR IS OUR NEXT CLUE. heck THE BEES COULD BE
THE CANARY'S OF THE COAL MINES AND WE ARE IGNORING THE FACT THAT THE
BEES ARE DYING THAT SOMETHING IN OUR AMBIENT AIR IS KILLING THEM.

AND ALL OF US, INCLUDING THE PLANT, ANIMAL, AND HUMAN SPECIES
LIVE, DRINK, BREATHE WATER AND MOISTURE.



BOARDMEMBR

YES YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT MORGELLIONS.

But a question that you must ask yourself is if nanoparticles, nanowires, nano
whatever else they have nanoed and put in our environment are part of the
problem that just maybe WHATEVER IS IN THE WATER SUPPLY IS WHAT
IS EFFECTING THE FIBERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CRYSTAL GROWTH EXPRESSIONS
because of some BIOLOGICAL AGENT THEY ARE TESTED AND they added they has its own set of growth
protocols embedded in the nanoparticle wafer cell.

Biological agent does not need to only mean anthrax.


NANODUD

ALL MATERIALS ARE NOT BEING KEPT INSIDE. THEY HAVE BEEN USING
NANOPARTICLES IN OUR FOOD AS A PRESERVATIVE FOR OVER 5 YEARS
BEHIND OUR BACKS.

SO WHAT WHEN YOU STATE ALL MATERIALS WILL BE KEEP IN-PLANT, ARE WE
HUMANS ONE OF THE NEW IN-PLANTS OR IMPLANTS FOR THE NANOPARTICLE
CLONES OF THE FUTURE?





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Good thread.

Im thinking that they have had electrostatic micropore filters, in the nanoindustry, for some five years now.

God, they better get them in there now, if they don't have them in place already.

I certainly do not think nanotechnology is new.I would venture that in other routes, I cant say here, that this product has probably been around a long time.

The idea, is to sit down with an industrial plant designer and a safety protocols officer and design your plant.

*Do you have a website nanodude?

*The closing thoughts on Morgellions, is that it is an active crystal growth colony.

Look at the phenothaline crystal growth experiment held in armature kids chemistry sets.Get and take a good look at this?

Now imagine roughly the same process going on, but self intelligent and wild, in the human body.
Rkic
Nano tech has been around. Morgellon fibers are nano filiments designed to work their way into your brain. DARPA has been using nano technology for decades to control brain functions. You are all slaves to the system and wont even remember this post when you wake up tomorrow. Propoganda? no. Total emotional control. HAARP is the motherboard that sends out frequencys to control the filiments to fire off specific neurons or cause the release of specific hormones. You will submit to the matrix or you will be given a cancer causing virus. Or in severe cases of knowledged experts you will be given hydroflouric acid which, with one drop, will causes immediate heart failure (the byproduct of nuclear waste). Ignore the obvious or the least that will happen to you is you'll be labeled the traitor. The 3rd world war was planned out in 1880, and is now being set up by labeling the Jews the Bohemian khazars when the true khazars are the ones you vote for. We have all been fooled, they laugh at our stupidity. Disinfo abounds. There is no escape. Your only hope is faith in Jesus, the truth will set you free. If this even gets posted, I am not the attacker only the messenger.
Guest_Neil Farbstein
QUOTE (Steveo+Apr 6 2006, 09:41 PM)

Nanofactories are a long long way off! This is a research lab, and research labs aren't very efficient at making things. A nanofactory would have to be cost effective....and nanotechnology as people think of it now, is not at that level, unfortunately.....and look at the semiconductor industry. The infrastructure required to do this work is very very expensive!
This dream is still a few decades away in my opinion.

I'm not sure what you are saying. If you mean self assembling nanomachines they should be forstalled or prohibited completely. They are a threat to the human race. We shouldnt have to worry about invulnerable bacteria made of diamonds and buckytubes that cannot be stopped by antibiotics.

If you are talking about nonmobile factories that use nanotechnology to make stuff like chemicals or electronic chips I'm for it. My company Vulvox Nanobiotechnology Corporation is researching DNA transistors that could lead to assembling intergrated nanocircuitry with huge memory capacities, megaterrabit memories that could play every movie and every video ever made on one cassete.
jaybrew
So is there any one who would like to sell thier CleanTechNano stocks... Just curious... Sounds like there is a few of you who dont believe in CleanTech..

J
yor_on
Anybody hear humanity BS before :)
Well came to the future.
It ain't media hype or your 'fifteen minutes of fame'.
Only greed and stupidity combined with clever manipulations.

As such, not very impressive.
chanlam
Normally, Peoples will not love it before seeing it.

Nanoscale is far from macroscopic.

So, When the peoples love it. There should be some "nanologic" products on sale in the superstores.

Don't you agree?
Neil Farbstein
QUOTE (Zephir+Mar 25 2007, 09:13 PM)
Well, size matters..

It's not the meat its' the motion...
Neil Farbstein
Take a look at this press release http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=5066
amazing stuff is coming out of nano labs. It'll stick to wet oral and vaginal mucosa
like velcro, it'll stick to wet rubber underwater.
Jim54
QUOTE (wil+Apr 15 2006, 08:35 PM)
John Johnson Posted: Feb 26 2006, 11:22 PM




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WWW.CLEANTECHNANO.COM

This company is a joke. They have been claiming to have a great process for disposing of all different kinds of waste with the by product being carbon.

Their latest claim of producing such pure Nanotubes is somewhat like Smoke and Mirrors magic tricks.

This company has been selling dreams, and promising their investors a great payback every year.

Most people invested in this company have heard this same old song and dance for 10+ years now.

If they have such a great process and product, why haven't they taken the company public?

This company's management should be investigated.

If you are invested in this company, email them and see if you can get a straight answer to your question.

They can make all the claims and reports they want to.
The bottom line to CleanTechNano.com, is SHOW US THE MONEY not another report.


Donnie Posted: Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM




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CLEANTEHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?


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QUOTE (Donnie @ Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM)


CLEANTECHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?


CLEANTECHNANO.COMand CLEANTECHNOW.COM

Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
Nanotube Technology is starting to get exciting.
Too bad Cleantechnano can't get their act together and start walking the walk, not just talking the talk.


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John Johnson Posted: Feb 26 2006, 11:22 PM

WWW.CLEANTECHNANO.COM

This company is a joke. They have been claiming to have a great process for disposing of all different kinds of waste with the by product being carbon.

Their latest claim of producing such pure Nanotubes is somewhat like Smoke and Mirrors magic tricks.

This company has been selling dreams, and promising their investors a great payback every year.

Most people invested in this company have heard this same old song and dance for 10+ years now.

If they have such a great process and product, why haven't they taken the company public?

This company's management should be investigated.

If you are invested in this company, email them and see if you can get a straight answer to your question.

They can make all the claims and reports they want to.
The bottom line to CleanTechNano.com, is SHOW US THE MONEY not another report.


Donnie Posted: Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM


CLEANTEHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?

Guest_Roger Posted: Mar 4 2006, 10:41 PM

QUOTE (Donnie @ Mar 4 2006, 02:24 PM)


CLEANTECHNANO.COM CLEANTECHNOW.COM

I have to agree with John and the observations he made about cleantechnano.com.
I know several people that have invested in this company after being told that the company was very close to going public, and they would see a good return on their investment. Sad to say but I was deceived by this sales pitch from the top management person, who I thought I could trust. This has turned out to be the worst investment I have ever made. I have a bad feeling this is a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check out them more, try going to CLEANTECHNOW.COM, it's the same company run by the same people.
Yes they are also making the same big claims. I would have to caution anyone who is thinking about investing, or doing business with them, check them out before you give them any money or sign a contract. It appears the top management has been dragging their feet and pocketing any money that should be shared with their investors. If you know anything about this company please share your thoughts.
What is the hold up with CLEANTECHNANO.COM ?



CLEANTECHNANO.COMand CLEANTECHNOW.COM

Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
Nanotube Technology is starting to get exciting.
Too bad Cleantechnano can't get their act together and start walking the walk, not just talking the talk.




John J Posted: Mar 8 2006, 12:31 PM




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WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

Here we go again. Check out their latest Web site. Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
How many Web sites do they need ?
If they have a good product, put it on the market and sell it.
Hopefully they will share some of the profits with their investors.
This company is getting more confusing every day.
Check their new Web site www.carbonnanofibers.com and see what you think.


Will Posted: Mar 14 2006, 02:20 AM




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QUOTE (John J @ Mar 8 2006, 12:31 PM)
WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

Here we go again. Check out their latest Web site. Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
How many Web sites do they need ?
If they have a good product, put it on the market and sell it.
Hopefully they will share some of the profits with their investors.
This company is getting more confusing every day.
Check their new Web site www.carbonnanofibers.com and see what you think.

WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM
WWW.CEANTECHNANO.COM
WWW.CLEANTECHNOW.COM

Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
This has turned out to be the worst investment I also have made. I too have a bad feeling this may be a take your money and run type company. If anyone wants to check them out, email the top people and ask them what's going on with the company.
Maybe it's time for a change in the top management of this company. This company has potential. Why is the top management not taking the steps necessary to take the company public? Hard working people have invested in this company because they believed the company was on the right track. Now we are just wondering what happened to the track.
What happened to having a share holders meeting?
This company could at least let it's investors know what's going on.


John J Posted: Mar 26 2006, 02:57 PM




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QUOTE (John J @ Mar 8 2006, 12:31 PM)
WWW.CARBONNANOFIBERS.COM

Here we go again. Check out their latest Web site. Scam, or poor management?
I agree with your observations about this company.
How many Web sites do they need ?
If they have a good product, put it on the market and sell it.
Hopefully they will share some of the profits with their investors.
This company is getting more confusing every day.
Check their new Web site www.carbonnanofibers.com and see what you think.

Maybe it's time for a change in the top management of this company.
www.cleantechnano.com
www.cleantechnow.com
www.carbonnanofibers.com

How do you vote the current management out and replace them with more of a progressive management team that will find a way to repay the investors????


Andy S Posted: Mar 26 2006, 07:33 PM




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New management is difficult when current management owns a majority interest. If the product is real then you just need some patience - good things come to those who wait and rolling out a brand new and revolutionary process or product is not as easy as selling hot dogs or beer at a ball game. If the product is not real then by the end of this year it will become evident.

It does no one any good to offer these sour grapes and accusations - either provide evidence that the process is a fraud or have some patience. Investing in this type of start-up is, by definition, a high-risk investment but risk and reward are generally directly proportional so be patient and do not throw stones at those who are trying to make you money. If you wanted an investment with a quick return then you should not have invested in a start-up technology venture!

If you know any facts about the process or any misinformation that the company has provided then please share the information.

Thank You,


Will Posted: Mar 29 2006, 12:28 AM




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QUOTE (Andy S @ Mar 26 2006, 07:33 PM)
New management is difficult when current management owns a majority interest. If the product is real then you just need some patience - good things come to those who wait and rolling out a brand new and revolutionary process or product is not as easy as selling hot dogs or beer at a ball game. If the product is not real then by the end of this year it will become evident.

It does no one any good to offer these sour grapes and accusations - either provide evidence that the process is a fraud or have some patience. Investing in this type of start-up is, by definition, a high-risk investment but risk and reward are generally directly proportional so be patient and do not throw stones at those who are trying to make you money. If you wanted an investment with a quick return then you should not have invested in a start-up technology venture!

If you know any facts about the process or any misinformation that the company has provided then please share the information.

Thank You,

How do you vote the current management out and replace them with more of a
Progressive management team that will find a way to repay the investors????

New management is difficult when current management owns a majority interest.

If this is the true, then everyone that has invested in this company has
absolutely zero input, or right's on their investment and the way the company is being managed. I wonder how many investors were told this before they invested?
Does this mean they don't have to hold a share holders meeting?
Does this mean the company doesn’t have to let its investors know what's going on?
Grapes can be turned into some of the finest wine ever tasted.
If this process is flawed or it takes too long, then the result is vinegar.
The investors have had nothing but the bitter taste of vinegar for a long time.
It takes patience to hear the same old song and dance for 10+ years.
You stated, If you wanted an investment with a quick return then you should not have invested in a start-up technology venture!

Yes I think all of the investors would have to agree that they should have never invested in this type of company some 10 years later with a ZERO return on their investments.


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When you invest in stock for a company, you should sometimes, either go online, to that place, or visit them if you can.

This is your money, you are an investor, you have a right to know.



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Ditto to all the above.

Every contact I've made with this company has been-" In about X more weeks we're going to go public" or " We are going to be ...... " or "We are just about to ........." or -- some song and dance that would lead you to believe you made a wise investment.

All investment with zero return is not what I call a wise investment. Apparently a sham!


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Ditto to all the above.

Every contact I've made with this company has been-" In about X more weeks we're going to go public" or " We are going to be ...... " or "We are just about to ........." or -- some song and dance that would lead you to believe you made a wise investment.

All investment with zero return is not what I call a wise investment. Apparently a sham!

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