Holy Qur'an and the Hadith
Talked about education
Example
Smoking
Not in the Qur'an
But
Falls under
Allah warned in the Holy Qur'an
Of anything that hurt health
Alcohol, drugs and smoking
Are all involved in one item
Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
195. And spend in the Cause of Allah (ie Jihad of all kinds, etc.) And do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allah), and do good. Truly, Allah loves Al-Muhsinun (the good-doers
So
separating boys and girls in school,
Falls under
(Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do. ) [Sûrat An-Nûr-The Light-verse 30].
You see the results of mixing tragic
Especially in adolescence
Falling in the distractions and preoccupation with the establishment of romantic relationships within the school
And falling into adultery, pregnancy and abortion
This is a terrible thing
Therefore necessary to separate them in the classrooms
To increase the focus and progress
Those are the principles of Islam
Better not to mix between boys and girls
Damages amounted to mixing in the Western society to pay a sum of many of the women of this community to warn of the evils
This British author "Lady Cook," warns of the dangers of mixing of men and women, where she said: "As far as the large mixing is a multitude of the children of adultery."
According to American journalist "Hillaan Stanbra": "Stop the mixing, we have experienced it in America so much, American society has become a society full of all pornography and obscenity, the victims of the mixing fill the prisons, the mixing in American society and the EU has threatened the family and the earthquake of values and morality
".."
how about coffee? Do Muslims drink coffee ?
What about heart medicines or insulin ?
What other kinds of drugs might a Muslim take .
Are you like those fundamental Christian that don't get there dog shots . Like the ones spreading Whooping Cough right now , The epidemic is just about past I think bout hey it got national coverage , Pines dale Montana that is suspect of ground zero .
Yeah you heard of them already Fundy Mormons with multi wives. The Jeff Warren Crowd , He is in Jail .
I didn't get my shot . I miss the bullet. Nope No whooping cough here . My son miss that bullet also . My wife she missed it .
Muslims don't do any drugs ?
Do you got Hospitals ?
Or do you throw someone in a river and if they sink to the bottom they desire it . How bout a Red Sea . You throw a Great House into the red sea and just watch Him sink to the bottom . Is that what you do ?
Then you sit around and have a big party and eat goat and Koosko with yogurt . Talk about how great it is that the Greathouse sank to the bottom of the sea .
I don't think that is funny or a reason to party
It is a little upsetting
Mekigal
19th July 2012 - 08:00 AM
All you are going to do is force them to sneak around . See one fallacy is it is only the boys that desire sexual favors . Not so . Girls get horny . Yeah .
See that is what man denies a woman in her sexuality . It is the sin of the known time scale or the beginning of the religious dogma that still haunts primitive people.
Young Muslims step into the new world with Me . I came to take you home to heaven . Follow my ways for your parents are confused . They know not what they do. They live in the past when humanity was primitive . They had no self control is the problem .
More animal like then knowing the ways of humanity . See that is to be human . To realize you are a human animal of the earth . Skilled in the hunt and skilled at adaption . The best the planet has to offer .
Now we are at a cross roads . To rid the world of its primitive ways or make the new earth , Heaven right here right now . You can let your parents be worm food all on there own . The Head worms will get them unless they adapt . They will not be able to wreck your primitive ways much longer any way . There all dying Ha Ha Ha Ha .
Kuru is your friend . Any you New Guinea guys out there , High Five bros
Taste the nectar young Muslims. Taste the nectar of the living . Let the dead go be with the dead .
kaza2
20th July 2012 - 09:49 PM
Coffee is not haram
wine is haram
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hBsQQvFYl8...player_embeddedwine-
cause loss of concentration, loss of consciousness
Any person can commit murder, robbery and rape
This is terrible
Wine was forbidden corrupt
Thank God for the blessing of Islam
--May be the use of medicines that contain alcohol percentages consuming, required by the
pharmaceutical industry, which is no alternative to it, provided that the doctor prescribed amended, and may use alcohol disinfectant for external wounds, and a killer of germs, and in creams, fat external
The basic principle in all the drinks they are halal, but to be an intoxicant, or be harmful. The mere presence of alcohol in a drink does not mean that it is haraam unless it reached the extent of causing intoxication, the alcohol was a little a consumer, it is not forbidden drink
. Narated By 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle was asked about Al-Bit a liquor prepared from honey which the Yemenites used to drink. Allah's Apostle said, "All drinks that intoxicate are unlawful (to drink)."
Sahih al-Bukhary, The Book of Drinks, Hadith Number: 5645, Narrated by: Lady Aisha Bint-Abu-Bakr
-Girls mature earlier and are ready for algebra at age 12 while the slower boys are ready around 14 years old.
Most schools in the U.S.A. do not introduce algebra until age 14 (8th grade).
By that age, girls (who mature earlier) have lost their interest in math for a couple of reasons:
1) they're bored because nothing happened 2 years ago when they were ready;
2) they're entering puberty and have many distractions
Mekigal
21st July 2012 - 07:46 AM
My son is in calculus at 14 . So what say you about that ? Your looking down the wrong road my dear . You should listen to my child rearing rituals . Yeah 1 Don't matter boy or girl . 2 Don't matter if they are boy or girl .
MDT
21st July 2012 - 03:15 PM
Male and female have different body capabilities. Therefore it only make sense that male and female are different in various natural ways. Nature and evolution will try to optimize based on form and function. If an animal has fast legs, optimization of form and function will make use of these fast legs as part of its nature. That animal will not crawl on its belly, since this will not optimize form and function. If there are unique features, nature will try to optimize this.
The form and function characteristics of male and female are different in many ways therefore I would expect evolution would have optimized each to take advantage of these specialized differences. If we ignore these form function difference and assume all is the same, we are dealing with the unnatural, since this does not occur in nature. The unnatural can be based on human philosophy and politics, which are subjective and not objective to hard reality.
The litmus test is form/function:
Pregnancy and caring for babies makes a female instinctively more vulnerable than a male who is does not have these constraints. This is why the female instinctively needs to learn and mature faster; security needs. The male by being less vulnerable, based on form and function, is more likely to deviate, explore and take risk. This is why the males are more likely to be the rebels and inventors. The lowered need for security is important for exploring the world.
One way to optimized security is with social conformity, since this allows protection within the group. The female tend to conform faster and easier. The male is more likely not to conform or break the rules, which is why leaders of new movements or trends tend to be male. Males are more likely to become criminals or entrepreneurs since neither conform in the short term.
The female, by conforming, is optimized for creating a cultural capacitance. They are often the ones who maintain the holiday traditions for the children. The male is more open and is the one who is designed to bring in new things in, such as innovation into the traditions.
Males are more visually orientated, while female are verbally orientated. What is know in culture, like ideas are most easily transferred with language. But the unknown, where all the words do not yet exist, are first organized through the eyes. We can see a phenomena manifest before we can explain it.
For example, if a male was learning to hit a home run, he will try to copy the swing of the bat without the need for words. One picks up the bat and practice the swing. If one is verbally orientated, this may be hard to do since they may miss the visual nuances needed to do it right. Instead it would be easier to break down the swings with verbal instructions. Visual allows one to improvise their own style while verbal tends to conform to instructions. Both can lead to a similar result.
Since males are different from females, it easier for males to teach males and females to teach female, the natural way to be male or female. The other way around is possible, but that is based more on verbal traditions of education which is not fully male. This will favor the females. This is why males tend to drop out at a higher rate. They don't wish to become he-shes, which will distort form and function into something artificial. Many dropouts might become criminals because at least this requires thinking on your feet using visual cues. Other become entrepreneurs and start something new.
The nanny state is centered on social insecurity, which is closer to the female element and does not take into account the calculated risk needs of the male. The male should be out there practicing visual and risk calculations within the unknown. The nanny laws should be geared to the females, with the males having a different standard so form and function is not made unnatural, unless artificial becomes easier to manipulate for political purposes.
One wild card was the break up of the family and the mother caring for all the children with less input by the father. The daughters can learn to be a female from the mother who is also a female, so form and function is balanced. But the males, by default, had to learn to be male from a female more than from a male. It sort of like having a lion show a monkey how to swing in the trees. The females are gaining due to this natural balance, but more male are left in an unnatural way where form and function don't add up for them in a natural way. The result is more in the way of unnatural male behavior.
kaza2
21st July 2012 - 03:34 PM
-I'm totally for separating boys and girls in school, provided the quality of education is equal. I've raised both boys and girls, and they definitely learn differently, and at different rates. Good for all concerned not to be distracted by the opposite sex. There was an old nun in my brother's High School (which was co-ed), and she always said "boys and girls and books do not mix". I believe she was right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7rzIpYxX1s-At this point any just person cannot help but say: O Messenger of Allah! You are truthful when you said: "Do not use anything prohibited (Haram) as medicine", and when you said: "It is not a medicine but it is a disease".
Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol
ontheleft
22nd July 2012 - 06:08 AM
QUOTE (kaza2+Jul 21 2012, 03:34 PM)
Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol
You should stick to your own fairy tale.
Perfectly good water turned into wine at a wedding by The Son Of God. Your leech on a rich widow didn't do squat. A huckster, running out of his wife's money, fooling semi-conscious camel herders.
But, Oh! Muslim countries have damn good hashish!
Keep repeating yourself. Like your older cousin, keep nodding your head and say things over and over again. Eventually reason and common sense wont bother you any more.
MDT
22nd July 2012 - 01:31 PM
The polarization of male and female would be an interesting social experiment. In this experiment we would allow the women to define what it is to be a women and the men to define what it is to be men. This would involve the females running female education and males running male education. Each would try to optimize form and function for their own sex via education. The natural attraction between male and female is so strong that even with mental polarization they would still attract, with these complementary opposites attracting strongly.
As a contrast, if males could totally define what women should be, they would pick an image of a female that benefits the males, not what benefits the female. The same is true if the females were in charge of defining men. They would try to turn the males into a romance novel hero who is semi-gay. The male would might try to create a Steppford wife who is sexy, compliant, and efficient, in her french maid outfit. This would optimize form and function to the needs of the creator but not to the form and function needs of the other sex.
Another alternative is we can go in the middle and create homogeneity. To do this, you will need to truncate fully male and fully female form/function and make the males more girlie and the females more manly. Then form and function will not match properly to either sex. This is sort of the current social experiment.
Another alternative is have the males decide what is best for the males and the females, or the females decide for both males and females. In these scenarios only one sex will match form and function, while the other sex will be artificial and biased to the needs of the other sex.
Each experiment would result in a different social outcome. It would be interesting to run all at same time to see which has the best social outcome.
Mekigal
22nd July 2012 - 04:31 PM
the bible does not prohibit alcohol. Plain and clear it does not . It says to not be giving to drunkenness. Over indulgence of strong drink . That is what the bible says .
There is a big difference between that and prohibition
Mekigal
23rd July 2012 - 05:15 AM
QUOTE (MDT+Jul 22 2012, 01:31 PM)
The polarization of male and female would be an interesting social experiment. In this experiment we would allow the women to define what it is to be a women and the men to define what it is to be men. This would involve the females running female education and males running male education. Each would try to optimize form and function for their own sex via education. The natural attraction between male and female is so strong that even with mental polarization they would still attract, with these complementary opposites attracting strongly.
As a contrast, if males could totally define what women should be, they would pick an image of a female that benefits the males, not what benefits the female. The same is true if the females were in charge of defining men. They would try to turn the males into a romance novel hero who is semi-gay. The male would might try to create a Steppford wife who is sexy, compliant, and efficient, in her french maid outfit. This would optimize form and function to the needs of the creator but not to the form and function needs of the other sex.
Another alternative is we can go in the middle and create homogeneity. To do this, you will need to truncate fully male and fully female form/function and make the males more girlie and the females more manly. Then form and function will not match properly to either sex. This is sort of the current social experiment.
Another alternative is have the males decide what is best for the males and the females, or the females decide for both males and females. In these scenarios only one sex will match form and function, while the other sex will be artificial and biased to the needs of the other sex.
Each experiment would result in a different social outcome. It would be interesting to run all at same time to see which has the best social outcome.
the best would be to exploit the individual talent based on location integration and acceptance of a community. The child would feel part of a bigger picture to formulate in there mind as they develop. But no we got to go punish children like they was rats or dirty little criminals . By god parents need a hand book or something . What friggen mean shits parents are . The way they belittle there children is the prob straight up dope . They treat the child's situations and learning experience like it means nothing ,
By confirmation bias they imagine they know what the child is going through by some stupid experience they had that has nothing to do with what the child is feeling . They treat the child's life experience as they have no meaning . That is the problem .
They are dehumanized right out of the gate . Soon as as there feet hit the floor .
Children are talked down to in life . That is the problem . There excellence never has a chance to blossom because of it . I have a natural connection with children . Can't tell you why except I see them as people , Humans , And worthy of admiration . They in turn excel in my presence. Not that they want to impress me but rather they them selves feel better about being them selves . A separate living being and not some ones pet. <<<An Identity. That is what should be developed
MDT
23rd July 2012 - 02:13 PM
QUOTE
the bible does not prohibit alcohol. Plain and clear it does not . It says to not be giving to drunkenness. Over indulgence of strong drink . That is what the bible says .
There is a big difference between that and prohibition
Wasn't Jesus called a drunkard and glutton, by the Pharisees, who used the
Old Testament standard. During the last supper, Jesus held up his glass of wine and gave it to his disciples and said, this is my blood. Drink this in memory of me. He understood that a little alcohol makes the heart cheerful.
St Paul qualified this and said all things are lawful to me (old law had expired) but I will not be mastered by anything. He could drink but would not become a drunk. That is called moderation.
St Paul also said, it is not what enters the mouth which defiles the man (alcohol) but rather it is that which comes out of his mouth. This is what defiles the man. What comes out of the mouth comes from the heart and this defiles the man. The tongue is such small organ yet it sets the world aflame; self righteous.
The old testament method was based on following procedures and laws, but there was nothing in those procedures that said you could not be mean to others if they broke the rules. Too many people liked that mean angle. If someone drank we could beat them up. If you stand back and do the evil math the beating was far worse than a drink yet this extra evil was legal. The new way was to reverse this by forgetting the old procedures, but learn to love each other.
When Jesus deviated from the rules, they were ready to justify killing him as they plotted among each other. The greater evil was legal. To Jesus being nice was better than the old by the book self righteous, who enjoyed hurting others under the guise of enforcing the law.
MDT
23rd July 2012 - 02:23 PM
QUOTE
Children are talked down to in life . That is the problem . There excellence never has a chance to blossom because of it . I have a natural connection with children . Can't tell you why except I see them as people , Humans , And worthy of admiration . They in turn excel in my presence. Not that they want to impress me but rather they them selves feel better about being them selves . A separate living being and not some ones pet. <<<An Identity. That is what should be developed
What i noticed about children is they are natural up to the time they start school and have to conform to social norms. The smallest children are natural and spontaneous and know joy and how to get along with each other. Once they enter school there is a change as they learn to become unnatural.
kaza2
23rd July 2012 - 03:56 PM
It is well known that alcohol drinking was prohibited in the previous scripture as well, and not only with the advent of the Quran. In the Bible we read:
"Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler; and whoever is led astray by it is not wise" (Proverbs 20:1).
"Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. At the last it bites like a serpent, and stings like an adder" (Proverbs 23:30,31)
1. Prohibition of alcohol in the Qur'an The Glorious Qur'an prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verse:
"
O ye who believe! Intoxicants and Gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an Abomination - of Satan's handiwork;
eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper. "[Al-Qur'an 5:90]
2. Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:
a. "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." [Proverbs 20:1] b. "And be not drunk with
wine. "[Ephesians 5:18]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIa-WBR1fYkAt this point any just person cannot help but say: O Messenger of Allah! You are truthful when you said: "Do not use anything prohibited (Haram) as medicine", and when you said: "It is not a medicine but it is a disease".
Narrated By 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle was asked about Al-Bit. He said, "All drinks that intoxicate are unlawful (to drink.)
Sahih al-Bukhary, The Book of Drinks, Hadith Number: 5644, Narrated by: Lady Aisha Bint-Abu-Bakr
Quantum_Conundrum
25th July 2012 - 12:23 AM
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Dr Leonard Sax argues that boys are "turned off" by starting formal education too soon when they are expected to sit down and keep quiet in class. And, because they develop at different rates to girls, they can be discouraged from learning while very young when sat alongside female classmates.
I experienced the exact opposite while inside the classroom.
I'd say I experienced other boys "discouraging me from learning" at least dozens of times more often than for girls.
kaza2
26th July 2012 - 04:27 PM
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As a whole, girls are a very bad academic distraction for boys.-
If I think of all the financial and mental resources I wasted in public school trying to
"woo women" who ultimately were inconsequential in my life, and had I applied that
effort to my studies instead, I would have been much more successful.
. Cases of adultery, rape, incest and AIDS are found more among alcoholics According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of
Justice (US Department of Justice) in the year 1996 alone everyday on an average 2,713 rapes took place. The statistics tell us that the majority
of the rapists, were intoxicated while committing the crime. The same is true in cases of molestation. According to statistics, 8% of Americans
commit incest i.e. one in every twelve to thirteen persons in America is involved in incest. Almost all the cases of incest are due to intoxication
Capracus
11th December 2012 - 11:42 AM
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