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Wardish
A quick idea what mirror neurons are, (not being a deity I'm subject to being mistaken so any corrections are more than welcome.

Mirror neurons - These are active when you do something or even when something is done to you, but the amazing thing about them is they are also active when we see someone else doing something or having something done to them.

Probably the best example is for males and the visceral reaction one gets from seeing someone else get their testicles hit.

I have two ideas concerning this.

1. I think mirror neurons may be responsible for us learning to use our limbs and various other parts when we are infants and possibly later.
For instance, an infant may see it's hand, but not know it is such. But touching other things, touching one hand to the other, feeling the hand with the mouth.
In other words all the moving, seeing, touching, hearing, smelling. All the senses are interrelated and I think they are primarily interrelated in the mirror neurons.
I also think this may be a major part in defining self verses not self. This would tie in nicely with the out of body experiences that virtual reality and remotely controlled virtual links give the users.

Ok next.

2. In the realm of artificial Intelligence. Many groups are involved with different methods of teaching systems about the world around them.

I think that simulating mirror neurons might make this process much more doable and may even produce some interesting bootstrap advances.

Ward




Wardish
It occurs to me that mirror neurons may be responsible for a couple of other things.

1. The difficulty in learning from a chart/drawing as opposed to someone showing you how do do something. A good example would be knot tying.

2. The ability to learn from "imagination". Ie mentally walking yourself through a set of actions and responses to various things. I would be very interesting to see if mirror neurons are active during such mental activity.

Ward
Quatermass
Maybe they are part of the learning process at the earliest stage? Babies do not have self-identity and if a baby cries, another one near it may start crying for no apparent reason. They could also have something to do with "empathy". We do not like seeing others hurt because thanks to these neurons, we can imagine very well what it would be like if it was us being hurt instead, so something to do with "conscience". A group survival instinct.
gregdevid
QUOTE (Wardish+Jan 20 2009, 08:54 PM)
A quick idea what mirror neurons are, (not being a deity I'm subject to being mistaken so any corrections are more than welcome.

Mirror neurons - These are active when you do something or even when something is done to you, but the amazing thing about them is they are also active when we see someone else doing something or having something done to them.

Probably the best example is for males and the visceral reaction one gets from seeing someone else get their testicles hit.

I have two ideas concerning this.

1. I think mirror neurons may be responsible for us learning to use our limbs and various other parts when we are infants and possibly later.
For instance, an infant may see it's hand, but not know it is such. But touching other things, touching one hand to the other, feeling the hand with the mouth.
In other words all the moving, seeing, touching, hearing, smelling. All the senses are interrelated and I think they are primarily interrelated in the mirror neurons.
I also think this may be a major part in defining self verses not self. This would tie in nicely with the out of body experiences that virtual reality and remotely controlled virtual links give the users.

Ok next.

2. In the realm of artificial Intelligence. Many groups are involved with different methods of teaching systems about the world around them.

I think that simulating mirror neurons might make this process much more doable and may even produce some interesting bootstrap advances.

Ward

Hi Friend,

As per my things, some scientists speculate that a mirror system in people forms the basis for social behavior, for our ability to imitate, acquire language, and show empathy and understanding. It also may have played a role in the evolution of speech. Mirror neurons were so named because, by firing both when an animal acts and when it simply watches the same action, they were thought to "mirror" movement, as though the observer itself were acting.

Thanks,

parkar
gregdevid
QUOTE (Wardish+Jan 20 2009, 08:54 PM)
A quick idea what mirror neurons are, (not being a deity I'm subject to being mistaken so any corrections are more than welcome.

Mirror neurons - These are active when you do something or even when something is done to you, but the amazing thing about them is they are also active when we see someone else doing something or having something done to them.

Probably the best example is for males and the visceral reaction one gets from seeing someone else get their testicles hit.

I have two ideas concerning this.

1. I think mirror neurons may be responsible for us learning to use our limbs and various other parts when we are infants and possibly later.
For instance, an infant may see it's hand, but not know it is such. But touching other things, touching one hand to the other, feeling the hand with the mouth.
In other words all the moving, seeing, touching, hearing, smelling. All the senses are interrelated and I think they are primarily interrelated in the mirror neurons.
I also think this may be a major part in defining self verses not self. This would tie in nicely with the out of body experiences that virtual reality and remotely controlled virtual links give the users.

Ok next.

2. In the realm of artificial Intelligence. Many groups are involved with different methods of teaching systems about the world around them.

I think that simulating mirror neurons might make this process much more doable and may even produce some interesting bootstrap advances.

Ward

Hi Friend,

Here we discuss some Mirror Neurons with deeply knowledge. Some scientists consider mirror neurons one of the most important findings of neuroscience in the last decade. Among them is V.S. Ramachandran, who believes they might be very important in imitation and language acquisition. However, despite the popularity of this field, to date no plausible neural or computational models have been put forward to describe how mirror neuron activity supports cognitive functions such as imitation.


Thanks,

Parkar
sporacle
Mirror neurons are no surprise. The homeotherm cerebral cortex can uncouple from direct interaction with the environment when not necessary (as in daydreaming) and reiterate images of what has taken place before in the present moment and extrapolate these images into the future. This does not mean a separate anatomical system is involved. The imaging in the present moment includes oneself in the images, and mirror neurons are also involved in direct interaction with the environment.

A major problem in understanding brain function by both laymen and some brain researchers is thinking of the brain as a central control system that uses input and output channels. The entire nervous system is a COORDINATING SYSTEM that interrelates its operation with the operation of the rest of the animal in interaction with everything in its environment.

Spo
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