Pupamancur
OK, let's try another crank debunking project.

On this website, see the incredible paper:

Nov. 16, 2006: A Simple Short Proof of Fermat's Last Theorem(PDF)

Now, this guy has a "proof" of the Riemann Conjecture as well (one of the most famous unsolved problems, there is a 1M\$ prize for solving it in addition to the fame one gets). You can see his "solution" on the same website.

Debunking the "solutions" are very good exercises in critical thinking.
Please feel free to pick apart other "papers", there are plenty of crackpots to choose from.
Euler
QUOTE (Pupamancur+Nov 18 2006, 01:33 AM)
OK, let's try another crank debunking project.

On this website, see the incredible paper:

Nov. 16, 2006: A Simple Short Proof of Fermat's Last Theorem(PDF)

Now, this guy has a "proof" of the Riemann Conjecture as well (one of the most famous unsolved problems, there is a 1M\$ prize for solving it in addition to the fame one gets). You can see his "solution" on the same website.

Debunking the "solutions" are very good exercises in critical thinking.
Please feel free to pick apart other "papers", there are plenty of crackpots to choose from.

Complete and utter bollocks, as with most of these things. In (8) and (9) he completely misses out what space he is varying over. And the variation makes little-to-no sense anyway because he's attempting to continuously deform (in the Frechét sense) an entity defined to live within the natural numbers.

However, I've become fairly interested in a new, fairly recent area of mathematics of late, and so might make a thread on it tomorrow if I get chance. Will hopefully be fairly interesting to those who care!
Pupamancur
QUOTE (Euler+Nov 18 2006, 01:45 AM)

QUOTE (Euler+)
Complete and utter bollocks, as with most of these things. In (8) and (9) he completely misses out what space he is varying over. And the variation makes little-to-no sense anyway because he's attempting to continuously deform (in the Frechét sense) an entity defined to live within the natural numbers.

You are VERY good! Why not drop a little note in the walter babin Forum for him, he gets really riled when he gets disproved. I played with one of his previous "discoveries", it drove him nuts!

QUOTE
However, I've become fairly interested in a new, fairly recent area of mathematics of late, and so might make a thread on it tomorrow if I get chance. Will hopefully be fairly interesting to those who care!

Yes, of course, we could do with some mainstream threads.
Euler
QUOTE (Pupamancur+Nov 18 2006, 05:55 PM)
Why not drop a little note in the walter babin Forum for him, he gets really riled when he gets disproved. I played with one of his previous "discoveries", it drove him nuts!

I don't think I can stomach any more cranks! I honestly didn't realise how many of these people there are out there. You're more than welcome to use my comments to refute his arm-wave, but it seems in the majority of these cases: the subjects are too stupid to even begin to understand why they are wrong in the first place!

Zephir
QUOTE (Euler+Nov 18 2006, 10:28 PM)
I don't think I can stomach any more cranks!

?!?......You're weak, weak. Face it, admit it!
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Euler+Nov 18 2006, 07:28 PM)
I don't think I can stomach any more cranks! I honestly didn't realise how many of these people there are out there. You're more than welcome to use my comments to refute his arm-wave, but it seems in the majority of these cases: the subjects are too stupid to even begin to understand why they are wrong in the first place!

....... Euler, when I was your age I'd not be sitting @ my PC on a saturday night .... go out and have some fun you dullard!
Zephir
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 10:36 PM)
...go out and have some fun you dullard...

...Nnnoo way, we need some fun too... Keep him here!
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Zephir+Nov 18 2006, 07:35 PM)
?!?......You're weak, weak. Face it, admit it!

... capital my old man.
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Pupamancur+Nov 18 2006, 05:55 PM)

Yes, of course, we could do with some mainstream threads.

Cue Zzzzzzzz factor 20....... Please wake me up when Eulers new thread expires.
AlphaNumeric
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 08:36 PM)
....... Euler, when I was your age I'd not be sitting @ my PC on a saturday night .... go out and have some fun you dullard!

When you were are age you obviously didn't bother getting an education either if you think crap things like Laidback and Zephir's tosh are 'good science'.
fivedoughnut
...you too Alpha'c .... Do I admire your 'hell bent' learning discipline? ..... well yes! .... but find it very difficult to understand. Try embracing life instead of hiding behind equations.
Euler
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 07:36 PM)
....... Euler, when I was your age I'd not be sitting @ my PC on a saturday night .... go out and have some fun you dullard!

QUOTE (Zephir+Nov 18 2006, 07:35 PM)
?!?......You're weak, weak. Face it, admit it!

Oof! Yet more killer blows...
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Euler+Nov 18 2006, 08:46 PM)

Oof! Yet more killer blows...

Alpha
QUOTE (Zephir+)
Nnnoo way, we need some fun too...  Keep him here!

What “fun” are you talking about??
You were shown to be the Black Hole Of Idiocy.

QUOTE (Fivedoughnut+)
Try embracing life instead of hiding behind equations.

QUOTE
Cue Zzzzzzzz factor 20....... Please wake me up when Eulers new thread expires.

Bwahaha.

Confused2
5d, yep, these guys should be out chasing tails on a Saturday night. They might even.. oh..let's not go down that route.
Euler
QUOTE (Confused2+Nov 18 2006, 09:05 PM)
5d, yep, these guys should be out chasing tails on a Saturday night.

fivedoughnut
Alpha,

Feel free to wipe your tears on my 'oh so' fully absorbant 'plankton brain' omni-cloth .....
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Confused2+Nov 18 2006, 09:05 PM)
5d, yep, these guys should be out chasing tails on a Saturday night. They might even.. oh..let's not go down that route.

.... Shagging will be fun .... textbook style ..... yawn!
Alpha
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 09:13 PM)
Alpha,
Feel free to wipe your tears on my 'oh so' fully absorbant 'plankton brain' omni-cloth .....

Feel free to drink yourself to death, idiot.
Euler
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 09:17 PM)
.... Shagging will be fun ....

Still waiting for that special moment then? Bless.
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Euler+Nov 18 2006, 09:20 PM)
Still waiting for that special moment then? Bless.

Euler,

You're not so bad ..... but try to get out a shade more.
Luke
Why is it that people always seem to think that intellectuals are loveless, friendless, and sexless? When it comes to those 3 things, I've always outdone all of my friends. Mind you, I don't drink though, but that's a personal decision.
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Alpha+Nov 18 2006, 09:18 PM)

Feel free to drink yourself to death, idiot.

...Good one!
Alpha
QUOTE (Luke+Nov 18 2006, 09:29 PM)
Why is it that people always seem to think that intellectuals are loveless, friendless, and sexless?  When it comes to those 3 things, I've always outdone all of my friends.  Mind you, I don't drink though, but that's a personal decision.

It is very comfortable for idiots to think that they are "embracing life" instead of getting knowledge. Whilst i don't think it is a good excuse for being idiot.

QUOTE (5doughnut+)
Good one!

So, will you follow my advice, "Australian Reds & English Real Ale" lover??
AlphaNumeric
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 09:20 PM)
...you too Alpha'c .... Do I admire your 'hell bent' learning discipline? ..... well yes! .... but find it very difficult to understand. Try embracing life instead of hiding behind equations.

Last weekend I drove 200 miles to go to one of the largest trance clubs in the UK to see Marco V dj live. Out at 6pm, back in at 9am. The previous week I went to London for my birthday. Going to Fabric would have been nice but all tickets were sold out so went somewhere else.

Just because I'm not out this Saturday doesn't mean I'm not out other Saturdays. Try jumping to less conclusions dumbass. Instead you're pathetic enough to fall back on stereotypes. Yes, we actually LEARN things, therefore we must be socially disfunction.

I think you're just attempting to make yourself feel better because a bunch of 'kids' seem to have learnt more about something than you.
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Alpha+Nov 18 2006, 09:34 PM)
It is very comfortable for idiots to think that they are "embracing life" instead of getting knowledge. Whilst i don't think it is a good excuse for being idiot.

QUOTE (5doughnut+)
Good one!

So, will you follow my advice, "Australian Reds & English Real Ale" lover??

Alpha,

The simplest thing for us is well beyond currrent math. Am I right? .. or are you a twat deity on steroids?
yquantum
Hi everyone,

Replying to Mathematics, anyone? Just read the last page on the post have you guys already started the party and forgot the the question.

I can’t say whether you had more wit among you now than usual, but I am certain you are having more laughing, which answered the end as well.

Have fun I will get back, do not want to be a party popper!

QUOTE
At every party there are two kinds of people—those who want to go home and those who don’t. The trouble is, they are usually married to each other.

caio_
yquantum
fivedoughnut
QUOTE (AlphaNumeric+Nov 18 2006, 09:36 PM)
Last weekend I drove 200 miles to go to one of the largest trance clubs in the UK to see Marco V dj live. Out at 6pm, back in at 9am. The previous week I went to London for my birthday. Going to Fabric would have been nice but all tickets were sold out so went somewhere else.

Just because I'm not out this Saturday doesn't mean I'm not out other Saturdays. Try jumping to less conclusions dumbass. Instead you're pathetic enough to fall back on stereotypes. Yes, we actually LEARN things, therefore we must be socially disfunction.

I think you're just attempting to make yourself feel better because a bunch of 'kids' seem to have learnt more about something than you.

Ridiculously sorry dude .... "Trance" did you say. Oh what a scintillating fun packed existance you have .... & I'm not just saying that!
Alpha
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 09:40 PM)

So, will you follow my advice, "Australian Reds & English Real Ale" lover?? [/QUOTE]
Alpha,

The simplest thing for us is well beyond currrent math. Am I right? .. or are you a twat deity on steroids?

I heavily insist on my advice to be followed by you. You are dumbf*ck, who is angry because he was shown to be dumbf*ck and was smacked to his own *** with his face, i don't think anything will help you, stupid loser.

fivedoughnut
QUOTE (Alpha+Nov 18 2006, 09:57 PM)
Alpha,

The simplest thing for us is well beyond currrent math. Am I right? .. or are you a twat deity on steroids? [/QUOTE]
I heavily insist on my advice to be followed by you. You are dumbf*ck, who is angry because he was shown to be dumbf*ck and was smacked to his own *** with his face, i don't think anything will help you, stupid loser.

... Alpha, I've hit a nerve
Euler
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 09:27 PM)
You're not so bad ..... but try to get out a shade more.

Your concern is noted: misplaced, but noted.
Confused2
5D, you obviously don't understand how much difference a good dj can make. Personally I'd sooner spend a night in hell, but that's probably just an age thing. C2.
Alpha
QUOTE (fivedoughnut+Nov 18 2006, 10:01 PM)
... Alpha, I've hit a nerve

Oh no, you didn't.
fivedoughnut
Duh
Alpha
QUOTE (yquantum+)
Just read the last page on the post have you guys already started the party and forgot the the question.
I can’t say whether you had more wit among you now than usual, but I am certain you are having more laughing, which answered the end as well.

Why don't you want to join the party?
You can be sure - we are having a lot of fun.
ffa
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How to Prove The Riemann Hypothesis
hayfa@scs-net.org
I have proved The Riemann Hypothesis in a paper entitled: How to Prove The Riemann Hypothesis. My proof is exact.
My paper "How to Prove The Riemann Hypothesis" was published in the web Journal"General Science Journal" on March 18th 2005.The link of the Journal is( www.gsjournal.net/aladeh/riemann.pdf).
It was published again in the Journal Spacetime&Substance,No.1,2006,P.1(hard copy available).
Also it is published in the Proceedings of PIRT-CMS-2007 Kolkata(pp.18-28, hard copy available).
It is published again in The Proceedings of The World Congress on Engineering and Computer Science 2010:WCECS 2010,October 20-22,2010,San Francisco,USA Vol I pp.149-154(Link www.iaeng.org/publication/WCECS2010/).
Now it is republished anew in The Journal of Calcutta Mathematical Society Vol 7,No.1,June 2011(pp.1-14).

Also my paper:A Pure Mathematical Proof Of The Four Color Problem
was published in The Proceedings of The World Congress on
Engineering and Computer Science October 2011 San Francisco
Vol.I pp.133-134

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Robittybob1
QUOTE (ffa+Mar 9 2012, 04:46 PM)
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How to Prove The Riemann Hypothesis
hayfa@scs-net.org
I have proved The Riemann Hypothesis in a paper entitled: How to Prove The Riemann Hypothesis. My proof is exact.
My paper "How to Prove The Riemann Hypothesis" was published in the web Journal"General Science Journal" on March 18th 2005.The link of the Journal is( www.gsjournal.net/aladeh/riemann.pdf).
It was published again in the Journal Spacetime&Substance,No.1,2006,P.1(hard copy available).
Also it is published in the Proceedings of PIRT-CMS-2007 Kolkata(pp.18-28, hard copy available).
It is published again in The Proceedings of The World Congress on Engineering and Computer Science 2010:WCECS 2010,October 20-22,2010,San Francisco,USA Vol I pp.149-154(Link www.iaeng.org/publication/WCECS2010/).
Now it is republished anew in The Journal of Calcutta Mathematical Society Vol 7,No.1,June 2011(pp.1-14).

Also my paper:A Pure Mathematical Proof Of The Four Color Problem
was published in The Proceedings of The World Congress on
Engineering and Computer Science October 2011 San Francisco
Vol.I pp.133-134

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You ought to get someone to up date Wikipedia then!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_hypothesis

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In mathematics, the Riemann hypothesis, proposed by Bernhard Riemann (1859), is a conjecture about the location of the nontrivial zeros of the Riemann zeta function which states that all non-trivial zeros (as defined below) have real part 1/2. The name is also used for some closely related analogues, such as the Riemann hypothesis for curves over finite fields.
The Riemann hypothesis implies results about the distribution of prime numbers that are in some ways as good as possible. Along with suitable generalizations, it is considered by some mathematicians to be the most important unresolved problem in pure mathematics (Bombieri 2000). The Riemann hypothesis is part of Problem 8, along with the Goldbach conjecture, in Hilbert's list of 23 unsolved problems, and is also one of the Clay Mathematics Institute Millennium Prize Problems. Since it was formulated, it has remained unsolved.
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