Arthur: I just saw your post. As I just mentioned to curious1, I have another very hectic work day facing me. I will reread your post at least once more before leaving for work and I'll ponder it. Hopefully I'll get back to you with a response in a semi-reasonable timeframe. Talk to you later.

Hi all,

As far as my views of "man walking" are concerned, the topic of the thread, I've already answered sufficiently I feel.

But this is now evolving into the study and debate of evolution.

As I read, many differences on views, however I disagree with EVOLUTION meaning ONLY the BEST characteristics develop and are passed on, i.e. "survival of the fittest." Although this may have been true much earlier on in mankind's history.

I see it as the worst characteristics being passed along as well, from not just a biological viewpoint but from a social and psychological as well, developing by time, wealth, opportunity and resources.

This is those social features, such as DIET - SMOKING -DRINKING (alcohol) etc, but in terms of biological physical mechanics, I don't see us evolving to anything other, than present.
The particular mentioned characteristics of many humans now are "negative" traits/habits but nevertheless, instead of eliminating what is commonly known as biologically foolish, medicine is poured in with billions upon billions just to eradicate and deal with problems people are willfully creating and furthering in themselves.
Kind of destroys the existence of logic and ration.

It can be simply put as if no cigarettes existed, no one would smoke. Because people DO NOT search for every avenue in these desperate moments to destroy themselves.
If developing of these sort of irrational habits and doings, is still considered evolution, then something must have gone wrong with the Darwinian analysis.

So thus I reckon, WE are passed that stage of biological "evolution" and into where we are now creating social and psychological evolution, for what we would like to exist. Can be likened with developing behaviors that we would like, i.e. picking and choosing, in biological comparatives features such as eye colour.
This other physical features "evolution" but on a minor scale is also existing and in succession now, at the same time. Many more physical characteristics that are seen and loved in individuals such as "models" are now being passed on and surviving more efficiently.

Socially, we have now "integrated" much more than ever before, creating genetic, biological and social diversity, which is paramount to peaceful existence, and to developing more harmony with each other.
Only oddities and absurd minds, such as racists, STILL are a hindrance to this process, and thus are shunned and belittled in every avenue in the educated and civilized world.

I see what to happen in the future and present as, RIDDING or ELIMINATING of those who disagree/object with the lead majority or motto, and thus, "survival" of those who are liked most.
Whether this is good or bad, I cannot judge as present, but instincts say bad.

I feel "man" has long developed ALL that was needed in the main physical and biological traits/trends and features to EVOLVE into a better and more complexly sufficient species than any other species in existence, i.e for domination of the Earth and subjugation of all other life.

Whether man is competing against man, is a common fact seen throughout history, in any culture and belief, even today. For better, for worse, only power is the victory decider here I feel.

If your of the people who shout "substantial proof" for my saying of mans competing with man in history, well, tough luck then, as you have NO history to your version of mankind or existence then.

A single proof is proof, and nothing more is required in any field unless there be other evidence negating this particular matter. It stands until challenged.

I hope I've answered the majority if issues raised, in principle.

Thanks.