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alanejackson
Listen, isn't that Santa?

Another Wishful Thinker?

Or

Gifts? For those who have ears.

Yes, again I've been caught sleeping at the wheel, not as observant as I should have been, as I would have liked to have been. But it's hard to be everywhere, at once. But now that I think I've seen it, let me tell you about it, and see if you see it too. To see it, may require the omission that you were sleeping too.

About a month ago, while gathering data from an online archive, it emerged from the year 1997. The interview with Lou Frank, a physicist at Iowa University, immediately alerted me to a Galileo class discovery. What Lou Frank did, others could have, but did not, but now must. What Lou Frank learned, we must, to be right. For he was the first to see a truth. Now, to be considered expert in the knowledge of our solar system, understanding Lou Frank's discovery is essential.

While studying satellite imagery, Lou began to question what most had classified as camera errors. His query led him to a place no man had gone before. And many now fear to go. It's to a place where the universe, it is realized, is a figment of our imagination. And it's our acceptance of newly discovered truths which affords imagination the ability to construct the most accurate figment possible, to date. Because God becomes known through the understanding of his creation, and because man is created in the image he has of God, through the knowing of this discovery, man becomes.

Now, I'm figuring chances are you do not know about this discovery of Lou Frank's. Because I think I'm somewhat vigilant when it comes to an awareness of what the mainstream media is disseminating, and I haven't caught wind of this discovery until now. Because the media did not bring this discovery to your attention, probably for the same reason the Catholic Church didn't want us to know about Galileo, many of us can be shown to be extremely ignorant. But since I've found it first, and your not aware of it, my thinking, my understanding, and my statements, you would probably strongly disagree with, simply because they are not yet "mainstream". And only those who take the time to study will understand that I am right, and that you are still being misled by the political experts/priests of today. This is a unique situation, let's try a few statements, and see how wrong you can be in your decision process, when yours is based more on politics then the truth. True or false?

Water ice, about the consistency of fog, in the form of small pods, 20 to 40 tons each, are so prevalent in the solar system that the Earth collides with and absorbs 20 to 40 every minute, about 10,000 a day?

All planets within our solar system with water and atmospheres, have collected those since the planets were formed. And still are?

The nuclear fusion occurring on the sun, may well be fueled from outside the sun itself. And the continuation of such fusion reaction is dependent upon the sun's ability to attract and absorb these abundant "Astro Ice Pods"?

The Earth collects water from space at an average rate of 5 cm every 10,000 years?

Knowledge is power, the power to make accurate decisions, and I'm trying to share some of my power with you? Until you accept it, the power I have greatly exceeds yours? This keeps us from becoming equal, this keeps power in the hands of a few rather than the people? To fulfill their obligation to the Constitution, Americans must be willing and striving to learn, and share equally with others without respect to persons and their positions? It's un-American to leave one's countrymen in the dark?

Go here to check your answers:
w.gsfc.nasa.gov/news-releas...997/97-60p.htm

w.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/96-97/may3197.htm

The generation that chisels it's opinion in stone, does all a disservice.

Science and learning is something we all should be able to do. Our lives should allow for it.

If I were asked, I think the reason it has taken us sixteen years to learn about Lou Frank's discovery, is simply the effect of our government representatives choosing a deficit lifestyle for themselves, and the people they image. While in debt, we must play the role of slave to a master. The master of the plantation would spend most of his time keeping down rebellion to the situation, by the slaves. What the master fears and must avoid, is the education of his slaves. Deficit spending is Enron type creative accounting. Due to a lack of self-discipline in our representatives, irresponsible spending by the government has left the country broke, living on borrowed time. Credit is now most important in mainstream America. Because unless you agree with deficit spending, and are willing to show it by going in debt personally, you're not given credit. The credit is supposedly backed up by the enslavement of those who will take our place, our next generation of Americans. Because you are in debt, you spend your time kissing the *** of those who allow you credit, calling it work, without the time to learn, without the time to be a free American. Being a slave to debt instead, your ears, your eyes, your mouth, and your mind are slaves rather than free. While in debt monetarily, you are found with a mental deficit also. Because so many have become this way, it has become mainstream in America. It's like being a member of the Jewish or Catholic faith, constantly haunted by history. Where one is excepted by the group due to his ignorance of, or his willingness to deny the truth. When the truth presents itself, these politically based organizations must reject it because it shows their wealthy to have no gold, their wise to have no wisdom, and their expert without the correct understanding.

For these reasons and more, its a good chance we'd lose a war. After our representatives sold us out to slavers, they seem willing to risk us as prisoners of war, rather then admit they've been wrong. The Muslim teachings are against deficit spending, and so are Judaic Christian teachings. It's not a clash of civilizations. It's just some not acting civilized in our government today.

I have reason to believe, that if Thomas Jefferson were here today, he would warn us that our greater danger lurks within, rather then from abroad.

"I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
If we run into such debts, we must be taxed in our meat and drink, in our necessities and in our comforts, in our labor and in our amusement.
If we can prevent the government from wasting the labor of the people, under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy."
-Thomas Jefferson

Education is the chief defense of nations.
-Burke

Alan
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tikay
http://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~frank/

I think all the info you posted (as possible links) may be obsolete..but is this the fellow ?

http://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/


Water ice, about the consistency of fog, in the form of small pods, 20 to 40 tons each, are so prevalent in the solar system that the Earth collides with and absorbs 20 to 40 every minute, about 10,000 a day?

All planets within our solar system with water and atmospheres, have collected those since the planets were formed. And still are?

The nuclear fusion occurring on the sun, may well be fueled from outside the sun itself. And the continuation of such fusion reaction is dependent upon the sun's ability to attract and absorb these abundant "Astro Ice Pods"?

The Earth collects water from space at an average rate of 5 cm every 10,000 years?



Wheres ARTHUR????
tikay
I think I will go hustle up Arthur for you...a great book of knowledge in areas such as these. I am curious as to how this could be anything near the truth? Feeling pretty skeptical. unsure.gif
Princess Bluebell
QUOTE (tikay+Dec 24 2007, 05:59 AM)


The nuclear fusion occurring on the sun, may well be fueled from outside the sun itself. And the continuation of such fusion reaction is dependent upon the sun's ability to attract and absorb these abundant "Astro Ice Pods"?


Er?blink.gif .... gonads darling! dry.gif
adoucette
QUOTE (tikay+Dec 24 2007, 12:57 PM)
I am curious as to how this could be anything near the truth? Feeling pretty skeptical. unsure.gif

I think skeptisism is a good call here Tikay.

Consider that the Earth is > 4 billion years old.

Consider that at 5 cm per 10,000 years, that equates to 5 meters every million years.

Might not sound like much, but still that equates to 5,000 meters in a billion years or almost twice as much water as we have on the planet.

So, the question in my mind would be, if we are accumulating all this water, where is it going to?

Arthur
tikay
QUOTE (adoucette+Dec 24 2007, 11:26 PM)
I think skeptisism is a good call here Tikay.

Consider that the Earth is > 4 billion years old.

Consider that at 5 cm per 10,000 years, that equates to 5 meters every million years.

Might not sound like much, but still that equates to 5,000 meters in a billion years or almost twice as much water as we have on the planet.

So, the question in my mind would be, if we are accumulating all this water, where is it going to?

Arthur

The voice of reason...thanks Arthur!


http://www-pi.physics.uiowa.edu/~frank/

I think all the info you posted (as possible links) may be obsolete..but is this the fellow ?


alan?
barakn
QUOTE (alanejackson+Dec 24 2007, 05:07 AM)
Now, I'm figuring chances are you do not know about this discovery of Lou Frank's. Because I think I'm somewhat vigilant when it comes to an awareness of what the mainstream media is disseminating, and I haven't caught wind of this discovery until now. Because the media did not bring this discovery to your attention, probably for the same reason the Catholic Church didn't want us to know about Galileo, many of us can be shown to be extremely ignorant. But since I've found it first, and your not aware of it, my thinking, my understanding, and my statements, you would probably strongly disagree with, simply because they are not yet "mainstream". And only those who take the time to study will understand that I am right, and that you are still being misled by the political experts/priests of today. This is a unique situation, let's try a few statements, and see how wrong you can be in your decision process, when yours is based more on politics then the truth. True or false?

Water ice, about the consistency of fog, in the form of small pods, 20 to 40 tons each, are so prevalent in the solar system that the Earth collides with and absorbs 20 to 40 every minute, about 10,000 a day?

All planets within our solar system with water and atmospheres, have collected those since the planets were formed. And still are?

The nuclear fusion occurring on the sun, may well be fueled from outside the sun itself. And the continuation of such fusion reaction is dependent upon the sun's ability to attract and absorb these abundant "Astro Ice Pods"?

The Earth collects water from space at an average rate of 5 cm every 10,000 years?

I hate to break it to you, Alan, but this story actually did make the news big time. I remember when it broke. There was no conspiracy by the media to hide it. And it turns out Louis Franks was dead wrong. To quote from this link:

http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/19...ve/k120897.html

"He grew even more uneasy about Frank's analysis when he found that the UVI had recorded the same dark spots while pointed at a UV light in the laboratory.

When Parks began a minute examination of the images, made by breaking the clusters of spots down into tiny picture point, or pixels, he found statistical evidence that he was seeing not real events, but what he calls an "instrument artifact."

After Parks had detailed his analysis in an article for Geophysical Research Letters, Frank released one hour of data that overlapped with Parks' UVI images. Parks has made a comparison of the two and now believes, even more emphatically, that Frank has been attempting to interpret background noise.

What is causing the spots on the images? Park blames the very complexity of the cameras themselves, which consist of a number of parts, including optics, an image intensifier that includes a device for multiplying electrons, a TV screen and a light- gathering charge-coupled device. Parks suspects that the dark spots change character as the camera's high voltage is varied."
tikay
Thanks for the link, that explains a lot! smile.gif
alanejackson
QUOTE (tikay+Dec 28 2007, 03:46 AM)
The voice of reason...thanks Arthur!




I think all the info you posted (as possible links) may be obsolete..but is this the fellow ?


alan?

Lets try this. Listen to this guy.

//alanejackson.tripod.com/icecomet.html

Save target, then play.

alanejackson
QUOTE (barakn+Dec 28 2007, 07:01 AM)
I hate to break it to you, Alan, but this story actually did make the news big time. I remember when it broke. There was no conspiracy by the media to hide it. And it turns out Louis Franks was dead wrong.

Any comments after listening to Lou Frank being interviewed?
barakn
QUOTE (alanejackson+Jan 9 2008, 05:15 AM)
Any comments after listening to Lou Frank being interviewed?

Yes. What was the point? The interview didn't add anything to the discussion I didn't already know.

As I've delved deeper into the matter I've grown even more skeptical. One simple question to ask is "what would this immense mini-comet bombardment look like from the ground?" Considering that pea-sized meteoroids cause brilliant fireballs in the night sky, a 40 ton comet slamming into the atmosphere should be as bright as Venus or even the full Moon, and thus these comet impacts should be seen frequently, even in the middle of the day. They aren't. Speaking of the Moon, the mini-comet theory implies it is bombarded by 400,000 of them a year, which should leave 50 meter craters and 150 meter ejecta blankets. Comparison of Clementine photos with older Apollo photos revealed an UPPER limit of only 33 impacts a year.

Source: http://science.nasa.gov/NEWHOME/HEADLINES/ast09dec97_2.htm

I also find it amusing that the following was used as supporting evidence for the mini-comets: "Since then, a satellite trailing the Space Shuttle Discovery in August detected significant amounts of high-altitude water vapor." The shuttles' main engines burn hydrogen and oxygen into water, so it's not surprising that a satellite would find water vapor in the atmosphere right after a shuttle put it there. In fact the shuttle has been partly implicated in the recent increase of night-shining clouds.
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