How does lead, a seemingly inert metal, cause health issues?
And why dont gold and other heavy metals have the same effect?
And how does lead get to the internal organs in the first place?
And why is it called physORG when it's a .com site?
-Roan
How does lead, a seemingly inert metal, cause health issues?
And why dont gold and other heavy metals have the same effect?
And how does lead get to the internal organs in the first place?
And why is it called physORG when it's a .com site?
-Roan
I started to look it up but after perusing THIS SITE I ran out and locked up the car. 
QUOTE (roam+Jan 7 2008, 03:12 PM)
How does lead, a seemingly inert metal, cause health issues?
Lead isn't inert, it reacts quite easily.
Gold can and does cause health problems in people. The symptoms are similar to arsenic poisoning. It is rare, but can happen when people take gold salts in the mistaken impression they are good for them.
Gold can and does cause health problems in people. The symptoms are similar to arsenic poisoning. It is rare, but can happen when people take gold salts in the mistaken impression they are good for them.
And how does lead get to the internal organs in the first place?
Are you serious with this question? You can eat something with lead in it, you can breathe in lead-contaminated dust.
I once read a theory that the fall of the Roman Empire was partially caused by lead poisoning in their plumbing system. I think this theory has been mostly refuted, however, as a leading cause of the downfall.
..... Those blasted empire bashing group IV metals!
The alpha allotrope of tin was thought to have screwed up Napoleons 1812 assault on Russia where it is rumoured that because of exposure to the intense prolonged cold, tunic buttons disintegrated as they slowly changed to the alpha (grey tin) state.
mmmh, 100% of the population of the Earth are metal poisoned.
100%, and it is not just lead.
Ever wondered why people distrust each other, or why there is a pervading climate of fear ?
Metal poisoning has been corrupting civilisations ever since time began
and this current civilisation is on the brink of doom, all persecuted by toxics, of one type or another.
Alzheimic dementia is usually the final outcome, or world war.... serious business
mmmh, 100% of the population of the Earth are metal poisoned.
100%, and it is not just lead.
Ever wondered why people distrust each other, or why there is a pervading climate of fear ?
Metal poisoning has been corrupting civilisations ever since time began
and this current civilisation is on the brink of doom, all persecuted by toxics, of one type or another.
Alzheimic dementia is usually the final outcome, or world war.... serious business
I once saw a map colour coded by violence rates per capita.
Beside it was a map colour coded by heavy metal pollution levels.
It was at a county level and the two maps were extremely close in appearance.
Lead isn't inert, it reacts quite easily.
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And why dont gold and other heavy metals have the same effect?
Gold can and does cause health problems in people. The symptoms are similar to arsenic poisoning. It is rare, but can happen when people take gold salts in the mistaken impression they are good for them.
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| And why dont gold and other heavy metals have the same effect? |
Gold can and does cause health problems in people. The symptoms are similar to arsenic poisoning. It is rare, but can happen when people take gold salts in the mistaken impression they are good for them.
And how does lead get to the internal organs in the first place?
Are you serious with this question? You can eat something with lead in it, you can breathe in lead-contaminated dust.
Isn't the primary problem the fact that lead is actually used in a number of manufacturing procedures despite the fact that it causes health problems, whereas gold is not (although it could cause just as many)?
I once read a theory that the fall of the Roman Empire was partially caused by lead poisoning in their plumbing system. I think this theory has been mostly refuted, however, as a leading cause of the downfall.
I once read a theory that the fall of the Roman Empire was partially caused by lead poisoning in their plumbing system. I think this theory has been mostly refuted, however, as a leading cause of the downfall.
QUOTE (keepiniteasy20+Jan 8 2008, 12:00 PM)
I once read a theory that the fall of the Roman Empire was partially caused by lead poisoning in their plumbing system. I think this theory has been mostly refuted, however, as a leading cause of the downfall.
They also used lead in cosmetics.
I read once about lead bing used to wrap cheese, but this was around the 1700's
They also used lead in cosmetics.
I read once about lead bing used to wrap cheese, but this was around the 1700's
Don't forget about fishing weights. called split shots. Grandpa showed me how to put them on the line. 1st you put 2 or 3 of them in your mouth then just above the hook you put one on the line and bite it to lock it onto the line, then you take one of the other ones,,, oops , what do you mean you swallowed it? 
But I feel much better now
But I feel much better now
QUOTE (keepiniteasy20+Jan 8 2008, 12:00 AM)
I once read a theory that the fall of the Roman Empire was partially caused by lead poisoning in their plumbing system. I think this theory has been mostly refuted, however, as a leading cause of the downfall.
..... Those blasted empire bashing group IV metals!
The alpha allotrope of tin was thought to have screwed up Napoleons 1812 assault on Russia where it is rumoured that because of exposure to the intense prolonged cold, tunic buttons disintegrated as they slowly changed to the alpha (grey tin) state.
I saw a dude with Argyria on NBC's Today show. He's happy. But very blue... The lead-colored guy is not happy.
What are the symptoms anyway? 
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 8 2008, 02:35 PM)
I saw a dude with Argyria on NBC's Today show. He's happy. But very blue...
QUOTE (paul h+Jan 8 2008, 01:40 AM)
What are the symptoms anyway?
Of lead poisoning? ..... basically sufferers are crotchety, cantankerous crabby gits, suffer poor co-ordination, muscular weakness, loss of IQ (see posts by Sir Robin, ubavontuba and Confused2 for details).
Of lead poisoning? ..... basically sufferers are crotchety, cantankerous crabby gits, suffer poor co-ordination, muscular weakness, loss of IQ (see posts by Sir Robin, ubavontuba and Confused2 for details).
QUOTE (Cecil P Abstract+Jan 8 2008, 03:08 PM)
Of lead poisoning? ..... basically sufferers are crotchety, cantankerous crabby gits, suffer poor co-ordination, muscular weakness, loss of IQ (see posts by Sir Robin, ubavontuba and Confused2 for details).
Fortunately, for Sir Robin's affliction there is a cure. It's a high velocity .303 lead infusion
Fortunately, for Sir Robin's affliction there is a cure. It's a high velocity .303 lead infusion
QUOTE (N O M+Jan 8 2008, 02:31 AM)
Fortunately, for Sir Robin's affliction there is a cure. It's a high velocity .303 lead infusion
QUOTE (keepiniteasy20+Jan 8 2008, 12:00 AM)
I once read a theory that the fall of the Roman Empire was partially caused by lead poisoning in their plumbing system. I think this theory has been mostly refuted, however, as a leading cause of the downfall.
screw plumbing! the romans used to mix lead into the wine because of its FLAVOR!
screw plumbing! the romans used to mix lead into the wine because of its FLAVOR!
QUOTE (Cecil P Abstract+Jan 7 2008, 09:08 PM)
Of lead poisoning? ..... basically sufferers are crotchety, cantankerous crabby gits, suffer poor co-ordination, muscular weakness, loss of IQ (see posts by Sir Robin, ubavontuba and Confused2 for details).
Actually, I must demur on the assessment of anyone but Stir Robin, as I have invited the other illustrious members to my joint. But it was funny!
Actually, I must demur on the assessment of anyone but Stir Robin, as I have invited the other illustrious members to my joint. But it was funny!
QUOTE (Cecil P Abstract+Jan 7 2008, 10:08 PM)
Of lead poisoning? ..... basically sufferers are crotchety, cantankerous crabby gits, suffer poor co-ordination, muscular weakness, loss of IQ (see posts by Sir Robin, ubavontuba and Confused2 for details).
Yes, thanks I was talking about lead poisoning,
but you described me and over 80% of everyone I know.
Yes, thanks I was talking about lead poisoning,
but you described me and over 80% of everyone I know.
QUOTE (paul h+Jan 8 2008, 06:26 PM)
Yes, thanks I was talking about lead poisoning,
but you described me and over 80% of everyone I know.
Dude, we're older than the young immortals. They just don't understand that, yet...
but you described me and over 80% of everyone I know.
Dude, we're older than the young immortals. They just don't understand that, yet...
QUOTE (MarkG+Jan 6 2008, 11:17 PM)
I started to look it up but after perusing THIS SITE I ran out and locked up the car.
Hey, that looks about like the side effects of any number of drugs they advertise on television.
Hey, that looks about like the side effects of any number of drugs they advertise on television.
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Yes, thanks I was talking about lead poisoning,
but you described me and over 80% of everyone I know
but you described me and over 80% of everyone I know
mmmh, 100% of the population of the Earth are metal poisoned.
100%, and it is not just lead.
Ever wondered why people distrust each other, or why there is a pervading climate of fear ?
Metal poisoning has been corrupting civilisations ever since time began
and this current civilisation is on the brink of doom, all persecuted by toxics, of one type or another.
Alzheimic dementia is usually the final outcome, or world war.... serious business
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jan 9 2008, 04:06 AM)
Alzheimic dementia is usually the final outcome, or world war.... serious business
I actually have heard that theory before, specifically how dangerous metals corrupt/posion our environment...I discovered this when I was researching the use of aluminum in anti-perspirants, a substance many individuals (including myself) have a sensitivity to.
I think the movie "Safe" that came out a little while ago talked about this briefly, too.
I actually have heard that theory before, specifically how dangerous metals corrupt/posion our environment...I discovered this when I was researching the use of aluminum in anti-perspirants, a substance many individuals (including myself) have a sensitivity to.
I think the movie "Safe" that came out a little while ago talked about this briefly, too.
QUOTE (keepiniteasy20+Jan 10 2008, 05:34 AM)
I actually have heard that theory before, specifically how dangerous metals corrupt/posion our environment...I discovered this when I was researching the use of aluminum in anti-perspirants, a substance many individuals (including myself) have a sensitivity to.
I think the movie "Safe" that came out a little while ago talked about this briefly, too.
On aluminium toxicity, from wikipedia:
I think the movie "Safe" that came out a little while ago talked about this briefly, too.
On aluminium toxicity, from wikipedia:
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It has been suggested that aluminium is a cause of Alzheimer's disease, as some brain plaques have been found to contain the metal. Research in this area has been inconclusive; aluminium accumulation may be a consequence of the Alzheimer's damage, not the cause. In any event, if there is any toxicity of aluminium it must be via a very specific mechanism, since total human exposure to the element in the form of naturally occurring clay in soil and dust is enormously large over a lifetime
QUOTE (roam+Jan 7 2008, 03:12 AM)
And why dont gold and other heavy metals have the same effect?
The effect of gold, silver and copper may be more subtle in many respects, but the terrible nature of the electric metals is all around. They speak of free radicals and damaged DNA, they speak of deformed genes and disease which is passed from generation to generation. Has the Holy Spirit of the Lord engineered the disease or has fornication with electric metals introduced the disease to the people, and the offspring who are born of thereof?
Their studies show them that the blood born cancers are often prevalent around sources of magnetic energy and still they fumble in darkness. Do they not know that, when a piece of iron is passed through a magnetic field, an electrical current is made to flow within the iron? Do they not know that the induced electrical current is related to the velocity of the metal? Do they not know that the blood is moving through the body? Do they not know that the chemistry of the blood centers around iron? Do they not know that they have made the evil sparks of death within the people?
The velocity of the electric train, the speed of the elevator, the miles per hour of the electric car, the motion of the escalator, walking under the electric fan, running under the electrical wires, travelling through a magnetic field maketh sparks in the chemistry of life. The metal zippers in the trousers, the chains around the neck, the underwire bras, the belt buckles, the nickels and coppers in your pockets, the earrings, and the bracelets, they are all receivers which soak up magnetic energy, making electrons to flow, inviting the beast into your body.
Yea, they are constantly changing the phase of charged particles within the body and they wonder where the disease begins. The old people with chains around the neck and hearing aids in the ears are overcome with cancer and nobody makes a stand on their behalf. When did the people begin trusting in the lies of the devil and forget the perfection of the Lord?
The simple truth is surely so much more powerful than the complicated lie.
The effect of gold, silver and copper may be more subtle in many respects, but the terrible nature of the electric metals is all around. They speak of free radicals and damaged DNA, they speak of deformed genes and disease which is passed from generation to generation. Has the Holy Spirit of the Lord engineered the disease or has fornication with electric metals introduced the disease to the people, and the offspring who are born of thereof?
Their studies show them that the blood born cancers are often prevalent around sources of magnetic energy and still they fumble in darkness. Do they not know that, when a piece of iron is passed through a magnetic field, an electrical current is made to flow within the iron? Do they not know that the induced electrical current is related to the velocity of the metal? Do they not know that the blood is moving through the body? Do they not know that the chemistry of the blood centers around iron? Do they not know that they have made the evil sparks of death within the people?
The velocity of the electric train, the speed of the elevator, the miles per hour of the electric car, the motion of the escalator, walking under the electric fan, running under the electrical wires, travelling through a magnetic field maketh sparks in the chemistry of life. The metal zippers in the trousers, the chains around the neck, the underwire bras, the belt buckles, the nickels and coppers in your pockets, the earrings, and the bracelets, they are all receivers which soak up magnetic energy, making electrons to flow, inviting the beast into your body.
Yea, they are constantly changing the phase of charged particles within the body and they wonder where the disease begins. The old people with chains around the neck and hearing aids in the ears are overcome with cancer and nobody makes a stand on their behalf. When did the people begin trusting in the lies of the devil and forget the perfection of the Lord?
The simple truth is surely so much more powerful than the complicated lie.
Templeghost,
Even sharks get cancer. so your notion that cancer is the result of wearing metal is laughably wrong. Try using some common sense next time.
Even sharks get cancer. so your notion that cancer is the result of wearing metal is laughably wrong. Try using some common sense next time.
QUOTE (barakn+Jan 22 2008, 06:24 AM)
your notion that cancer is the result of wearing metal is laughably wrong. Try using some common sense next time. benign tumors.. this finding contradicts the theory that shark cartilage contains an anticancer substance.
I wasn't speaking about benign tumors was I? When I consider Jesus thrashing a table of money with a big stick I will remember your comment, and I will give much consideration to the nature of your heart.
I wasn't speaking about benign tumors was I? When I consider Jesus thrashing a table of money with a big stick I will remember your comment, and I will give much consideration to the nature of your heart.
QUOTE (templeghost+Jan 22 2008, 07:52 AM)
I wasn't speaking about benign tumors was I? When I consider Jesus thrashing a table of money with a big stick I will remember your comment, and I will give much consideration to the nature of your heart.
I wasn't speaking of benign tumors either. I was speaking of cancer. Perhaps you need to read the reference again which says "they have documented more than 40 cancerous and benign tumors in sharks" (emphasis mine). Or how about those Tasmanian Devils which are dying off because of cancer? What metal products are they wearing that allows "the beast" in?
I hope when you consider the nature of my heart you decide that it is a muscular organ that circulates blood.
I wasn't speaking of benign tumors either. I was speaking of cancer. Perhaps you need to read the reference again which says "they have documented more than 40 cancerous and benign tumors in sharks" (emphasis mine). Or how about those Tasmanian Devils which are dying off because of cancer? What metal products are they wearing that allows "the beast" in?
I hope when you consider the nature of my heart you decide that it is a muscular organ that circulates blood.
QUOTE (Zarkov+Jan 9 2008, 04:06 AM)
mmmh, 100% of the population of the Earth are metal poisoned.
100%, and it is not just lead.
Ever wondered why people distrust each other, or why there is a pervading climate of fear ?
Metal poisoning has been corrupting civilisations ever since time began
and this current civilisation is on the brink of doom, all persecuted by toxics, of one type or another.
Alzheimic dementia is usually the final outcome, or world war.... serious business
I once saw a map colour coded by violence rates per capita.
Beside it was a map colour coded by heavy metal pollution levels.
It was at a county level and the two maps were extremely close in appearance.
QUOTE (barakn+Jan 22 2008, 10:47 PM)
What metal products are they wearing that allows "the beast" in?
I often speak about the other factors which contribute to the various forms of cancer, especially the plastic chemicals for instance. Still, the nickel and copper are always buying the disease, and bringing forth all manner of evil chemical alchemy.
This is a truth which cannot be avoided. Everywhere we look, there it is. In the mining towns, and the steel factory towns, along the major highways where the nickel fumes travel, there always the violence and disease are most prevalent. In addition, various alternative cultures often form in those areas as well.
Many of the studies point us in the right direction, but they never crack the problem because they never think to complete the circuit. When we begin to consider the levels of electrosmog, and magnetic fields, then the answers can become very clear indeed. The highly conductive and magnetic metals are working together, against the health of the people.
Consider the top row of 10 transition metals. Many of those metals are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields, especially where we are overcome with highly permeable nickel. The people are part of the circuits they build, the large cities are like unto electric spider webs, where the transition metals are trapped in a magnetic web.
The meek people dream of bondage, and the violent and abusive people are more likely to act upon their wicked thoughts. Moreover, the powered metals and free radicals are amplifying the nature of the disease, and affecting DNA, and deforming genes.
This is a truth which cannot be avoided. Everywhere we look, there it is. In the mining towns, and the steel factory towns, along the major highways where the nickel fumes travel, there always the violence and disease are most prevalent. In addition, various alternative cultures often form in those areas as well.
Many of the studies point us in the right direction, but they never crack the problem because they never think to complete the circuit. When we begin to consider the levels of electrosmog, and magnetic fields, then the answers can become very clear indeed. The highly conductive and magnetic metals are working together, against the health of the people.
Consider the top row of 10 transition metals. Many of those metals are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields, especially where we are overcome with highly permeable nickel. The people are part of the circuits they build, the large cities are like unto electric spider webs, where the transition metals are trapped in a magnetic web.
The meek people dream of bondage, and the violent and abusive people are more likely to act upon their wicked thoughts. Moreover, the powered metals and free radicals are amplifying the nature of the disease, and affecting DNA, and deforming genes.
Mice breathing the air downwind from Hamilton's two big steel mills were found to have significantly higher mutation rates in their sperm, a new Health Canada-led study says.
I often speak about the other factors which contribute to the various forms of cancer, especially the plastic chemicals for instance. Still, the nickel and copper are always buying the disease, and bringing forth all manner of evil chemical alchemy.
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I once saw a map colour coded by violence rates per capita.
Beside it was a map colour coded by heavy metal pollution levels.
It was at a county level and the two maps were extremely close in appearance.
Beside it was a map colour coded by heavy metal pollution levels.
It was at a county level and the two maps were extremely close in appearance.
This is a truth which cannot be avoided. Everywhere we look, there it is. In the mining towns, and the steel factory towns, along the major highways where the nickel fumes travel, there always the violence and disease are most prevalent. In addition, various alternative cultures often form in those areas as well.
Many of the studies point us in the right direction, but they never crack the problem because they never think to complete the circuit. When we begin to consider the levels of electrosmog, and magnetic fields, then the answers can become very clear indeed. The highly conductive and magnetic metals are working together, against the health of the people.
Consider the top row of 10 transition metals. Many of those metals are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields, especially where we are overcome with highly permeable nickel. The people are part of the circuits they build, the large cities are like unto electric spider webs, where the transition metals are trapped in a magnetic web.
The meek people dream of bondage, and the violent and abusive people are more likely to act upon their wicked thoughts. Moreover, the powered metals and free radicals are amplifying the nature of the disease, and affecting DNA, and deforming genes.
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| I once saw a map colour coded by violence rates per capita. Beside it was a map colour coded by heavy metal pollution levels. It was at a county level and the two maps were extremely close in appearance. |
This is a truth which cannot be avoided. Everywhere we look, there it is. In the mining towns, and the steel factory towns, along the major highways where the nickel fumes travel, there always the violence and disease are most prevalent. In addition, various alternative cultures often form in those areas as well.
Many of the studies point us in the right direction, but they never crack the problem because they never think to complete the circuit. When we begin to consider the levels of electrosmog, and magnetic fields, then the answers can become very clear indeed. The highly conductive and magnetic metals are working together, against the health of the people.
Consider the top row of 10 transition metals. Many of those metals are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields, especially where we are overcome with highly permeable nickel. The people are part of the circuits they build, the large cities are like unto electric spider webs, where the transition metals are trapped in a magnetic web.
The meek people dream of bondage, and the violent and abusive people are more likely to act upon their wicked thoughts. Moreover, the powered metals and free radicals are amplifying the nature of the disease, and affecting DNA, and deforming genes.
Mice breathing the air downwind from Hamilton's two big steel mills were found to have significantly higher mutation rates in their sperm, a new Health Canada-led study says.
Templeghost,
An error in my logic - you never said there weren't also other sources of cancer. What do you think of the interaction of the Earth's own magnetic field with the "top row of 10 transition metals" which "are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields?" Has God entrapped us "in a magnetic web."
An error in my logic - you never said there weren't also other sources of cancer. What do you think of the interaction of the Earth's own magnetic field with the "top row of 10 transition metals" which "are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields?" Has God entrapped us "in a magnetic web."
Metals in biological systems are usually highly insulated in proteins
unfortunately rogue metal ions are not insulated effectively and usually inhibit specific enzymes, reducing capacity and generally creating havoc in the electrical flows in the biology.
The wearing of metal on the outside of the body is only a hazard because the metal ions are absorbed through the skin.
Even dyed clothing is a hazard... as is air, food and water... in fact anything toxic that goes inside or touches outside all add to general alloy load.
Today the ally is very exotic.. no longer is it simply mercury lead and arsenic
the bio-accumulated toxic metals in the metabolic alloy interact with each other in ways "unbeknown" so the effects can be multitude and seemingly unexplainable.
Oh Brave New World, you are all mad!
unfortunately rogue metal ions are not insulated effectively and usually inhibit specific enzymes, reducing capacity and generally creating havoc in the electrical flows in the biology.
The wearing of metal on the outside of the body is only a hazard because the metal ions are absorbed through the skin.
Even dyed clothing is a hazard... as is air, food and water... in fact anything toxic that goes inside or touches outside all add to general alloy load.
Today the ally is very exotic.. no longer is it simply mercury lead and arsenic
the bio-accumulated toxic metals in the metabolic alloy interact with each other in ways "unbeknown" so the effects can be multitude and seemingly unexplainable.
Oh Brave New World, you are all mad!
QUOTE (barakn+Jan 23 2008, 11:27 PM)
Has God entrapped us "in a magnetic web."
When I look upon an electric crucifix, I remember what was done to the saints. The meek find it easy to understand, but the wicked can never see the justice of it. Various alternative cultures are shouting the truth, where the people are filled up with the Holy Ghost, they express the truth.
We must also consider the photoelectric and aharanov-bohm effects. In the quantum world, all things are as one. Even sunshine can power highly conductive metals such as silver and gold, creating local quantum-electromagnetic distortions.
Furthermore, where transition metals are powered by magnetic energy and light, we must also consider the phase distortions which will result in the surrounding charged particles. Indeed, this deserves much attention.
Our modern science clearly illustrates how metal objects deform the quantum-electromagnetic structure of the body, this will clearly have an effect on the internal biochemistry, especially where magnetic metals are powered by magnetic vectors from highly conductive metals.
We must also consider the photoelectric and aharanov-bohm effects. In the quantum world, all things are as one. Even sunshine can power highly conductive metals such as silver and gold, creating local quantum-electromagnetic distortions.
Furthermore, where transition metals are powered by magnetic energy and light, we must also consider the phase distortions which will result in the surrounding charged particles. Indeed, this deserves much attention.
Our modern science clearly illustrates how metal objects deform the quantum-electromagnetic structure of the body, this will clearly have an effect on the internal biochemistry, especially where magnetic metals are powered by magnetic vectors from highly conductive metals.
Even dyed clothing is a hazard... as is air, food and water... in fact anything toxic that goes inside or touches outside all add to general alloy load.
This is a good point, the blue jeans with dye from oil or coal are a great example. What a person takes internally is one thing, it hardly defiles the person, but the body has no mechanisms to cope with substances which are forced upon the flesh. Look upon the people who have worn blue jeans and metal for many years, the visual effects are very dramatic.
yeah, uh, templeghost?
I'm kinda confused, are you saying metal is evil? and my customary garb is a wite t-shirt and bluejenze and I'm still hot. And If we were to eliminiate metals in favor of carbon fiber and plastic (except in very neccicary applications like coppere in wires) are you saying that cancer rates would decrease? and more than the metal I think it's the kind of food we eat that causes cancer, we consume tons of pesicide and preservatives and ingrediants that I cant pronounce and I'm pretty sure that that is the biggest problem. I have nearly completely rejected the bible for a funner self-created religion so none of my posts are religeously tempered either in the hardcore athiest veiws or in any other religious veiw. You seem obsessed with cutting down technology and I think that in order to progress as a species we need technology in the long run.
peace,
-Roan
true
true
completely rejected the bible for a funner self-created religion so none of my posts are religeously tempered either in the hardcore athiest veiws or in any other religious veiw.
Great, religion is a metal-poisoned aberration
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.... waste products, micro-contaminations, arrogant ignorance... they have all been a curse derived from technology
and in the end ignorance will destroy us all.
As the entire world's human population spirals into frank madness, LIFE (the single super-organism infecting Earth) is preparing for its own funeral.
When I look upon an electric crucifix, I remember what was done to the saints. The meek find it easy to understand, but the wicked can never see the justice of it. Various alternative cultures are shouting the truth, where the people are filled up with the Holy Ghost, they express the truth.
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The wearing of metal on the outside of the body is only a hazard because the metal ions are absorbed through the skin.
We must also consider the photoelectric and aharanov-bohm effects. In the quantum world, all things are as one. Even sunshine can power highly conductive metals such as silver and gold, creating local quantum-electromagnetic distortions.
Furthermore, where transition metals are powered by magnetic energy and light, we must also consider the phase distortions which will result in the surrounding charged particles. Indeed, this deserves much attention.
Our modern science clearly illustrates how metal objects deform the quantum-electromagnetic structure of the body, this will clearly have an effect on the internal biochemistry, especially where magnetic metals are powered by magnetic vectors from highly conductive metals.
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| The wearing of metal on the outside of the body is only a hazard because the metal ions are absorbed through the skin. |
We must also consider the photoelectric and aharanov-bohm effects. In the quantum world, all things are as one. Even sunshine can power highly conductive metals such as silver and gold, creating local quantum-electromagnetic distortions.
Furthermore, where transition metals are powered by magnetic energy and light, we must also consider the phase distortions which will result in the surrounding charged particles. Indeed, this deserves much attention.
Our modern science clearly illustrates how metal objects deform the quantum-electromagnetic structure of the body, this will clearly have an effect on the internal biochemistry, especially where magnetic metals are powered by magnetic vectors from highly conductive metals.
Even dyed clothing is a hazard... as is air, food and water... in fact anything toxic that goes inside or touches outside all add to general alloy load.
This is a good point, the blue jeans with dye from oil or coal are a great example. What a person takes internally is one thing, it hardly defiles the person, but the body has no mechanisms to cope with substances which are forced upon the flesh. Look upon the people who have worn blue jeans and metal for many years, the visual effects are very dramatic.
yeah, uh, templeghost?
I'm kinda confused, are you saying metal is evil? and my customary garb is a wite t-shirt and bluejenze and I'm still hot. And If we were to eliminiate metals in favor of carbon fiber and plastic (except in very neccicary applications like coppere in wires) are you saying that cancer rates would decrease? and more than the metal I think it's the kind of food we eat that causes cancer, we consume tons of pesicide and preservatives and ingrediants that I cant pronounce and I'm pretty sure that that is the biggest problem. I have nearly completely rejected the bible for a funner self-created religion so none of my posts are religeously tempered either in the hardcore athiest veiws or in any other religious veiw. You seem obsessed with cutting down technology and I think that in order to progress as a species we need technology in the long run.
peace,
-Roan
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I think it's the kind of food we eat that causes cancer, we consume tons of pesicide and preservatives and ingrediants
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completely rejected the bible for a funner self-created religion so none of my posts are religeously tempered either in the hardcore athiest veiws or in any other religious veiw.
Great, religion is a metal-poisoned aberration
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obsessed with cutting down technology and I think that in order to progress as a species we need technology in the long run.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.... waste products, micro-contaminations, arrogant ignorance... they have all been a curse derived from technology
and in the end ignorance will destroy us all.
As the entire world's human population spirals into frank madness, LIFE (the single super-organism infecting Earth) is preparing for its own funeral.
QUOTE (roam+Jan 24 2008, 08:01 PM)
I think it's the kind of food we eat that causes cancer, we consume tons of pesicide and preservatives and ingrediants that I cant pronounce and I'm pretty sure that that is the biggest problem.
I speak about pesticides all the time, and the way the foods are prepared.
In the above quote, I am speaking about the nature of sin.
In the above quote, I am speaking about the nature of sin.
roam: eliminiate metals in favor of carbon fiber and plastic
Some people aren't paying attention I guess.
Overall, I like all the things made by God!
I speak about pesticides all the time, and the way the foods are prepared.
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What a person takes internally is one thing, it hardly defiles the person..
In the above quote, I am speaking about the nature of sin.
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In the above quote, I am speaking about the nature of sin.
roam: eliminiate metals in favor of carbon fiber and plastic
Some people aren't paying attention I guess.
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I often speak about the other factors which contribute to the various forms of cancer, especially the plastic chemicals for instance.
Overall, I like all the things made by God!
QUOTE (templeghost+Jan 22 2008, 05:55 AM)
The effect of gold, silver and copper may be more subtle in many respects, but the terrible nature of the electric metals is all around.
Magnetic atoms of gold, silver and copper have been obtained. Apparently, the highly conductive metals, with only a single electron in the outer shell, are able to exert magnetic effects when surrounded with organic molecules:
http://www.physorg.com/news123416096.html
Magnetic atoms of gold, silver and copper have been obtained. Apparently, the highly conductive metals, with only a single electron in the outer shell, are able to exert magnetic effects when surrounded with organic molecules:
http://www.physorg.com/news123416096.html
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The magnetism of these nanoparticles is a permanent one (like iron) which, even at ambient temperature, is quite significant. This amazing behaviour has been obtained not just with gold (a phenomenon which had already been put forward as experimentally possible) but, in this research, nanoparticles of silver and copper (the atoms of which are intrinsically non-magnetic) with a size of 2 nm have also been shown to be magnetic at ambient temperature... surround it with previously selected organic molecules.
That's interesting. But Copper-brass fumes are toxic. Don't play around with an `Electric Arc Welder' with Brass too much. 
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What a person takes internally is one thing, it hardly defiles the person..
Toxic materials corrupt the innate conscience... this is contrary to the teaching of Socrates, who thought the conscience was in-corruptible.
This is the Age of Universal Human Madness....
even dogs are going Alzheimic......
Civilisation is on a mental knife edge, and i expect it will be very cut up in the near future.
Blame it all on toxic substances.... that have entered the food chain... all condoned by business and industry, and legislated as safe by governments.
Are the governments liable for the destruction of people's lives?
destroyed futures, failed marriages, mental disease, jails full of "rejects" that are all afflicted with mental poisoning...
nice eh ?
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Toxic materials corrupt the innate conscience... this is contrary to the teaching of Socrates, who thought the conscience was in-corruptible.
This is the Age of Universal Human Madness....
even dogs are going Alzheimic......
Civilisation is on a mental knife edge, and i expect it will be very cut up in the near future.
Blame it all on toxic substances.... that have entered the food chain... all condoned by business and industry, and legislated as safe by governments.
Are the governments liable for the destruction of people's lives?
destroyed futures, failed marriages, mental disease, jails full of "rejects" that are all afflicted with mental poisoning...
nice eh ?
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
This is the Age of Universal Human Madness....
You are proof of that.
Prove it.
Prove it.
Are the governments liable for the destruction of people's lives?
destroyed futures, failed marriages, mental disease, jails full of "rejects" that are all afflicted with mental poisoning...
nice eh ?
Don't forget to take your antipsychotics, Ditzkov.
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.
I C the US government is suppressing toxic information (link at page)
why ? because the population is all poisoned, all insane, and that includes the controllers..
now you can understand how dumb weirdo's wish to suppress information... they all need to be locked away so they can do no harm to the greater world.
I have NO INTEREST in their safety..... they are sick, they will not acknowledge that they are irrational.... so then there is nothing that can be done, except certify them all.
Remember lead was ubiquitous in paint... in the exhaust of all cars,,,,, neuro-toxic and geno-toxic lead is all the way through the food chain.... and today lead is just one of many daemons at work to corrupt your mind, the rest haven't even been clinically assessed.
The world is waking up to toxic pollutants... but are you able to protect yourself..... read my site and you may find your salvation.
You live in a very dangerous world, far more dangerous than living in a wild jungle.
Losing your mind is far far worse than losing your life.
just for the previous idiot post
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.
I C the US government is suppressing toxic information (link at page)
why ? because the population is all poisoned, all insane, and that includes the controllers..
now you can understand how dumb weirdo's wish to suppress information... they all need to be locked away so they can do no harm to the greater world.
I have NO INTEREST in their safety..... they are sick, they will not acknowledge that they are irrational.... so then there is nothing that can be done, except certify them all.
Remember lead was ubiquitous in paint... in the exhaust of all cars,,,,, neuro-toxic and geno-toxic lead is all the way through the food chain.... and today lead is just one of many daemons at work to corrupt your mind, the rest haven't even been clinically assessed.
The world is waking up to toxic pollutants... but are you able to protect yourself..... read my site and you may find your salvation.
You live in a very dangerous world, far more dangerous than living in a wild jungle.
Losing your mind is far far worse than losing your life.
just for the previous idiot post
brain lesions similar to
Please describe the characteristics of a lesion that is seen in people who have Alzheimic dementia.
Unfortunately for you, buddy!, such lesions are "generalised changes" to brain structure..... atrophied brain tissue (holes etc), soaked in reactive clumped amyloid
see
http://www.ahaf.org/alzdis/about/AmyloidPlaques.htm
BDW, you are so far out of your depth that even a lifesaver can't help you.
as with The Doc, you are now on my ignore list
just found this
http://www.physorg.com/news124734398.html
unfortunately dogs are dumb,...... so the use of the word "similar" is quite correct.
You are proof of that.
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even dogs are going Alzheimic......
Prove it.
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Prove it.
Are the governments liable for the destruction of people's lives?
destroyed futures, failed marriages, mental disease, jails full of "rejects" that are all afflicted with mental poisoning...
nice eh ?
Don't forget to take your antipsychotics, Ditzkov.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7288176.stm
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a study of dogs in Mexico found those who lived in highly-polluted Mexico City had brain lesions similar to those seen in Alzheimer's patients, while those who lived in much less-polluted rural areas showed a much lower rate of damage to the brain.
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 14 2008, 04:18 PM)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7288176.stm
FAILURE!
Want to know why?
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades, buddy.
FAILURE!
Want to know why?
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a study of dogs in Mexico found those who lived in highly-polluted Mexico City had brain lesions similar to those seen in Alzheimer's patients, while those who lived in much less-polluted rural areas showed a much lower rate of damage to the brain.
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades, buddy.
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Want to know why?
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.
I C the US government is suppressing toxic information (link at page)
why ? because the population is all poisoned, all insane, and that includes the controllers..
now you can understand how dumb weirdo's wish to suppress information... they all need to be locked away so they can do no harm to the greater world.
I have NO INTEREST in their safety..... they are sick, they will not acknowledge that they are irrational.... so then there is nothing that can be done, except certify them all.
Remember lead was ubiquitous in paint... in the exhaust of all cars,,,,, neuro-toxic and geno-toxic lead is all the way through the food chain.... and today lead is just one of many daemons at work to corrupt your mind, the rest haven't even been clinically assessed.
The world is waking up to toxic pollutants... but are you able to protect yourself..... read my site and you may find your salvation.
You live in a very dangerous world, far more dangerous than living in a wild jungle.
Losing your mind is far far worse than losing your life.
just for the previous idiot post
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| Want to know why? |
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.
I C the US government is suppressing toxic information (link at page)
why ? because the population is all poisoned, all insane, and that includes the controllers..
now you can understand how dumb weirdo's wish to suppress information... they all need to be locked away so they can do no harm to the greater world.
I have NO INTEREST in their safety..... they are sick, they will not acknowledge that they are irrational.... so then there is nothing that can be done, except certify them all.
Remember lead was ubiquitous in paint... in the exhaust of all cars,,,,, neuro-toxic and geno-toxic lead is all the way through the food chain.... and today lead is just one of many daemons at work to corrupt your mind, the rest haven't even been clinically assessed.
The world is waking up to toxic pollutants... but are you able to protect yourself..... read my site and you may find your salvation.
You live in a very dangerous world, far more dangerous than living in a wild jungle.
Losing your mind is far far worse than losing your life.
just for the previous idiot post
brain lesions similar to
Please describe the characteristics of a lesion that is seen in people who have Alzheimic dementia.
Unfortunately for you, buddy!, such lesions are "generalised changes" to brain structure..... atrophied brain tissue (holes etc), soaked in reactive clumped amyloid
see
http://www.ahaf.org/alzdis/about/AmyloidPlaques.htm
BDW, you are so far out of your depth that even a lifesaver can't help you.
as with The Doc, you are now on my ignore list
just found this
http://www.physorg.com/news124734398.html
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Since there is no way to safely examine the brains of living people this way, doctors currently diagnose Alzheimer's disease using other methods. They rely on reviewing medical histories, administering physical exams, and taking into account the results of a battery of neuropsychological assessments that measure cognitive performance. A positive diagnosis is made when all other possible causes have been eliminated, but even under the best of circumstances, these diagnoses can be incorrect 10 percent of the time or more.
unfortunately dogs are dumb,...... so the use of the word "similar" is quite correct.
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
AHAHAHAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHAHAHA
You are a paranoid nutter. A pathetic one, at that.
You are a paranoid nutter. A pathetic one, at that.
BDW, you are so far out of your depth that even a lifesaver can't help you.
You've got it the wrong way around, bozo. YOU are the one out of your depth. Telling yourself that you aren't won't make things different.
The more you ignore me and BDW, the more you'll look like a complete loony wacko.
The more you ignore me and BDW, the more you'll look like a complete loony wacko.
unfortunately dogs are dumb
They seem smarter than you
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.
I C the US government is suppressing toxic information (link at page)
Apparently Dr Hans Zarkov knows more about multiple toxicity loads then the rest of the worlds experts combined.
Apparently somone has been slipping xenoestrogens in Dr Hans Zarkovs drinking water.
First off, Toxicity data is freely available on the web, you'll just have to actually try and find it. I have some good sites bookmarked. I know this because in my job I deal with it on a daily basis.
Recently (in the last 20 years of so - it all seemed to start with the Sevoso directive) there has been a shift towards a globally harmonized system of hazards management (and I know this because i'm currently studying it at post-grad level).
Zinc and copper are also toxic, and present on your road surfaces (deposited their by the brake pads of the cars you're driving) and the first inch or so of rain contains levels of copper and zinc comparable to landfill leachate.
Lead used to be a problem in that way but it's not such an issue now (at least not here) because some parts of the world (for example the country I reside in) have banned the use of leaded fuel.
If you're going to get your knickers in a knot, get them in a knot over the right things, for example, PM10 particulate matter (and the suspended solids in road runoff) have very high concentrations of metals in them, why? Because the metal ions tend to stick to their surface.
Most of all, try and get a grip on reality again - I think your reality check bounced.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHAHAHA
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now you can understand how dumb weirdo's wish to suppress information... they all need to be locked away so they can do no harm to the greater world.
You are a paranoid nutter. A pathetic one, at that.
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You are a paranoid nutter. A pathetic one, at that.
BDW, you are so far out of your depth that even a lifesaver can't help you.
You've got it the wrong way around, bozo. YOU are the one out of your depth. Telling yourself that you aren't won't make things different.
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as with The Doc, you are now on my ignore list
The more you ignore me and BDW, the more you'll look like a complete loony wacko.
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| QUOTE |
| as with The Doc, you are now on my ignore list |
The more you ignore me and BDW, the more you'll look like a complete loony wacko.
unfortunately dogs are dumb
They seem smarter than you
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 15 2008, 03:03 PM)
failure to read my site (thread... Metal Dementia) will lead to your demise
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.
I C the US government is suppressing toxic information (link at page)
Apparently Dr Hans Zarkov knows more about multiple toxicity loads then the rest of the worlds experts combined.
Apparently somone has been slipping xenoestrogens in Dr Hans Zarkovs drinking water.
First off, Toxicity data is freely available on the web, you'll just have to actually try and find it. I have some good sites bookmarked. I know this because in my job I deal with it on a daily basis.
Recently (in the last 20 years of so - it all seemed to start with the Sevoso directive) there has been a shift towards a globally harmonized system of hazards management (and I know this because i'm currently studying it at post-grad level).
Zinc and copper are also toxic, and present on your road surfaces (deposited their by the brake pads of the cars you're driving) and the first inch or so of rain contains levels of copper and zinc comparable to landfill leachate.
Lead used to be a problem in that way but it's not such an issue now (at least not here) because some parts of the world (for example the country I reside in) have banned the use of leaded fuel.
If you're going to get your knickers in a knot, get them in a knot over the right things, for example, PM10 particulate matter (and the suspended solids in road runoff) have very high concentrations of metals in them, why? Because the metal ions tend to stick to their surface.
Most of all, try and get a grip on reality again - I think your reality check bounced.
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 15 2008, 02:03 AM)
Metal poisoning is real, but stick your head in the sand if you want.. the US government is suppressing toxic information. Please describe the characteristics of a lesion that is seen in people who have Alzheimic dementia.. such lesions are "generalised changes" to brain structure..... atrophied brain tissue (holes etc), soaked in reactive clumped amyloid..
Zarkov, there is some truth in this, but if we want the average person to understand, and the scientists to give it attention, we have to provide the detailed mechanisms which lead to the cascade failures. The electric metals such as iron, zinc, chromium and manganese play important roles in various biological functions, so we need to focus our attention on the forces which are changing the normal chemical interactions.
Electricity and magnetic field considerations thread
We need to think in terms of a delicate quantum-electromagnetic world where highly conductive and magnetic metals interact with externally applied fields. In particular, we need to focus on phase shift interactions, which don't always change the electronic state.
Modern research has shown that the output of a biological system, or the quantum chemistry thereof, can be very sensitive to electron phase. The constructive and destructive quantum effects of highly magnetic and conductive metals can greatly influence the natural chemistry within the body, especially where we are exposed to 60Hz magnetic fields.
In short, the external electromagnetic field only needs to change the phase of electrons, or ionic molecules, in order to introduce drastic changes into the normal electron transfer chemical interactions.
Consider this latest study into rusty iron worms and Alzheimers:
http://www.physorg.com/news123153536.html
Yet again, we find the electric and magnetic metals are malfunctioning because of some force which is acting upon them. Yes, what we put in our mouth and on our body can have an effect, but what sequence of events is creating the ideal conditions for the disease to take hold? Gold, silver, nickel, copper, iron, and zinc are very prevalent, but a new situation has enabled them to take power over the chemistry of the body, in a way which has never been seen before.
Zarkov, there is some truth in this, but if we want the average person to understand, and the scientists to give it attention, we have to provide the detailed mechanisms which lead to the cascade failures. The electric metals such as iron, zinc, chromium and manganese play important roles in various biological functions, so we need to focus our attention on the forces which are changing the normal chemical interactions.
Electricity and magnetic field considerations thread
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How about a little common sense? Why do they make antennas out of metal? The answer is clear, electric metals are easily powered by the magnetic component of an electromagnetic field.
When we pass a piece of conductive metal through a magnetic field we cause electrons to begin flowing in the metal.. They know that electric metals are intricately involved in the development of Alzheimer's and other neurodegenerative diseases. Further study has shown that ions of zinc, copper, and iron can cause a cascade failure where waxy deposits begin to form in the brain..
Nickel is used in electric toasters, hair dryers, and most heating elements because nickel burns like fire when you pass electricity through it. Nickel is unique, in the sense that it loves soaking up magnetic energy, much like a sponge soaks up water, the nickel is highly permeable to magnetic fields.
The top row of 10 transition metals all have seven electron heads, or shells as they are commonly called. The velocity of the metal, through a magnetic field, will determine the amount of induced electron flow.
Standing beside the train as the massive electric motor broadcasts magnetic vector fields will force the transition metals, in your body, to burn in phase shifting fires. Standing under the high voltage power lines is one thing, driving at 70MPH while you pass under them is quite another. The excitation of stationary metals is one thing, the excitation of metals which are moving rapidly in flowing blood is another story.
When we pass a piece of conductive metal through a magnetic field we cause electrons to begin flowing in the metal.. They know that electric metals are intricately involved in the development of Alzheimer's and other neurodegenerative diseases. Further study has shown that ions of zinc, copper, and iron can cause a cascade failure where waxy deposits begin to form in the brain..
Nickel is used in electric toasters, hair dryers, and most heating elements because nickel burns like fire when you pass electricity through it. Nickel is unique, in the sense that it loves soaking up magnetic energy, much like a sponge soaks up water, the nickel is highly permeable to magnetic fields.
The top row of 10 transition metals all have seven electron heads, or shells as they are commonly called. The velocity of the metal, through a magnetic field, will determine the amount of induced electron flow.
Standing beside the train as the massive electric motor broadcasts magnetic vector fields will force the transition metals, in your body, to burn in phase shifting fires. Standing under the high voltage power lines is one thing, driving at 70MPH while you pass under them is quite another. The excitation of stationary metals is one thing, the excitation of metals which are moving rapidly in flowing blood is another story.
We need to think in terms of a delicate quantum-electromagnetic world where highly conductive and magnetic metals interact with externally applied fields. In particular, we need to focus on phase shift interactions, which don't always change the electronic state.
Modern research has shown that the output of a biological system, or the quantum chemistry thereof, can be very sensitive to electron phase. The constructive and destructive quantum effects of highly magnetic and conductive metals can greatly influence the natural chemistry within the body, especially where we are exposed to 60Hz magnetic fields.
In short, the external electromagnetic field only needs to change the phase of electrons, or ionic molecules, in order to introduce drastic changes into the normal electron transfer chemical interactions.
Consider this latest study into rusty iron worms and Alzheimers:
http://www.physorg.com/news123153536.html
Yet again, we find the electric and magnetic metals are malfunctioning because of some force which is acting upon them. Yes, what we put in our mouth and on our body can have an effect, but what sequence of events is creating the ideal conditions for the disease to take hold? Gold, silver, nickel, copper, iron, and zinc are very prevalent, but a new situation has enabled them to take power over the chemistry of the body, in a way which has never been seen before.
templeghost, trying to be too specific leads to confrontation. Many details of toxic poisoning are still awaiting investigation... by err metal poisoned researchers !!!!!!!
LOL
Trippy, you are a fool who thinks he knows because he was told.., and examined by people who know
LOL
Go tell Nero that lead is poisonous !!!!!
Raise your game or you will be added.
LOL
Trippy, you are a fool who thinks he knows because he was told.., and examined by people who know
LOL
Go tell Nero that lead is poisonous !!!!!
Raise your game or you will be added.
QUOTE (Zarkov+)
Trippy, you are a fool
The only fool here is you. You demonstrate that every time you post.
Was that supposed to scare him? Cause I find it hilarious
Was that supposed to scare him? Cause I find it hilarious
Ignore List:- BigDW, Doc
It doesn't bother me in the slightest that you're ignoring me. It just proves how much of an idiot you are.
enough of misunderstandings
the above is true, I never said it wasn't
and certainly more and more is being uncovered
You must therefore understand that modern man has quite a load, an alloy mixed into his very being
Now the controversy is
Does this alloy mix cause adverse "cellular/enzymic affects" in human mental processes
we know that many metals precipitate cancer..... physical disease/illness
the proven mental aspect has been confined by science to several metals... Pb, Hg, As, Cd and several more
Fe, Cu, Mn etc.....
It turns out that some are synergistic, some are lone wolves.... some cause depletions of essentials
BUT all metal ions in excess will inhibit enzymic processes in cells
and considering that the general load on the population have been markedly high in the past (a legacy in the ground/air/water.... fields etc) and even now in some industrial areas,
or even deliberate additions and adulterations to food lines...
Remember that world wide use of fertiliser has spread cadmium and other toxics across the fertile lands of this world....
you talk of cars and their adverse pollution..... almost all major centres of humanity live in such a *** heap
As a biochemist, my experience would cause me to believe all excess metal ions, cause mental changes
therefore all life on this planet is toxic, not sane... insane, not responsible, mad,,,,,, etc
whatever words you wish to use.
I do not think we all disagree on basic matters, we just disagree on details,,,,,
and I expect the degree of madness expressed by the general population.
I have some good links at my site, but it seems to be becoming more and more unavailable the more I discuss this matter and oil induced global climate change on the net.
The only fool here is you. You demonstrate that every time you post.
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Raise your game or you will be added.
Was that supposed to scare him? Cause I find it hilarious
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Was that supposed to scare him? Cause I find it hilarious
Ignore List:- BigDW, Doc
It doesn't bother me in the slightest that you're ignoring me. It just proves how much of an idiot you are.
QUOTE (templeghost+Jan 23 2008, 03:54 PM)
Consider the top row of 10 transition metals. Many of those metals are vital to our health, and they are the very metals which will be greatly affected by external magnetic fields, especially where we are overcome with highly permeable nickel. The people are part of the circuits they build, the large cities are like unto electric spider webs, where the transition metals are trapped in a magnetic web.
I see Templeghost also knows more about multiple toxicity loads then the worlds experts.
Bull.
Calcium: >15-16 mg/dl can lead to coma and cardiac arrest.
Scandium: Subacute to chronic toxicity, metal powder is a skin irritant. Generally little is known, and there is insufficient data, contact and release should be avoided where possible.
Titanium: Not bioactive, but accumulates in tissues containing silica.
Vanadium: Toxicity of Vanadiun depends on it's valency and oxidation state (VOSO4 is 5 times more toxic then V2O3).
Known effecs include respitory damage, neural damage, with one study suggesting carcinogenity.
Chromium: Trivalent chromium is required in sugar metabolism, however hexavalent chromium is very toxic, mutagenic, and causes allergic contact dermatitis. Also evidence to suggest that some Chromium complexes (chromium picolate) are carcinogenic, leading the EPA to lower dosage rates in some dietary supplements.
Manganese : Essential trace nutrient, but concentrations greater then 5 ppm should be avoided. Manganese is an increased risk for kids, because it binds to CH-7 receptors. Mn poisining has been linked to cognitive and motor disorders. Manganism, which has been linked to manganese poisining cause symptoms similar to parkinsons.
Iron: Free iron in the body reacts with peroxides to produce free radicals, which can damage DNA, proteins, lipids, and other cell components. It also causes gastrointestinal damage, heart and liver damage, long term organ damage, and even death. All this for only 60 mg/kg iron/bodyweight. Iron has a UL of 40mg/day, and children eating large quantities of ferrous sulfate tablets intended for adults is one of the most common toxicological causes of death in children under 6.
Cobalt: Essential for life, however, excessive amounts cause mutagenic and carcinogenic effects similar to nickle. In fact there were a series of deaths in Belgium because somebody added Cobalt Chloride to beer as a foam regulator.
Nickel: Numerous biological roles, most only recognized since the 70's. Exposure should not exceed 0.05 mg/cc per 40 hr week.
Copper: Numerous biological roles, however reccomended levels in drinking water is 1.5-2 mg/l with the maximum tolerable daily uptake from all dietary sources being 10 mg/day. Copper poisining leads to liver and brain damage.
Zinc: Essential to the body, toxic at a few mg/l, interferes with copper uptake.
So you see? That's just the first row of transition metals.
By now it should be obvious that you and Zarkov have no idea what you're talking about...
Wait... What's the red spot... why is there an unmarked black helicopter outside... Gotta run, they're after me, if we never see each other again, you know what happened.
I see Templeghost also knows more about multiple toxicity loads then the worlds experts.
Bull.
Calcium: >15-16 mg/dl can lead to coma and cardiac arrest.
Scandium: Subacute to chronic toxicity, metal powder is a skin irritant. Generally little is known, and there is insufficient data, contact and release should be avoided where possible.
Titanium: Not bioactive, but accumulates in tissues containing silica.
Vanadium: Toxicity of Vanadiun depends on it's valency and oxidation state (VOSO4 is 5 times more toxic then V2O3).
Known effecs include respitory damage, neural damage, with one study suggesting carcinogenity.
Chromium: Trivalent chromium is required in sugar metabolism, however hexavalent chromium is very toxic, mutagenic, and causes allergic contact dermatitis. Also evidence to suggest that some Chromium complexes (chromium picolate) are carcinogenic, leading the EPA to lower dosage rates in some dietary supplements.
Manganese : Essential trace nutrient, but concentrations greater then 5 ppm should be avoided. Manganese is an increased risk for kids, because it binds to CH-7 receptors. Mn poisining has been linked to cognitive and motor disorders. Manganism, which has been linked to manganese poisining cause symptoms similar to parkinsons.
Iron: Free iron in the body reacts with peroxides to produce free radicals, which can damage DNA, proteins, lipids, and other cell components. It also causes gastrointestinal damage, heart and liver damage, long term organ damage, and even death. All this for only 60 mg/kg iron/bodyweight. Iron has a UL of 40mg/day, and children eating large quantities of ferrous sulfate tablets intended for adults is one of the most common toxicological causes of death in children under 6.
Cobalt: Essential for life, however, excessive amounts cause mutagenic and carcinogenic effects similar to nickle. In fact there were a series of deaths in Belgium because somebody added Cobalt Chloride to beer as a foam regulator.
Nickel: Numerous biological roles, most only recognized since the 70's. Exposure should not exceed 0.05 mg/cc per 40 hr week.
Copper: Numerous biological roles, however reccomended levels in drinking water is 1.5-2 mg/l with the maximum tolerable daily uptake from all dietary sources being 10 mg/day. Copper poisining leads to liver and brain damage.
Zinc: Essential to the body, toxic at a few mg/l, interferes with copper uptake.
So you see? That's just the first row of transition metals.
By now it should be obvious that you and Zarkov have no idea what you're talking about...
Wait... What's the red spot... why is there an unmarked black helicopter outside... Gotta run, they're after me, if we never see each other again, you know what happened.
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 15 2008, 06:56 PM)
LOL
Trippy, you are a fool who thinks he knows because he was told.., and examined by people who know
LOL
Right... So I provide a rational cogent argument, even offering to provide you to links on toxicity data, and give a breif summary of the state of our knowledge of toxicity, and multiple toxicity loads.
And you respond with what... Empty abusive twaddle?
Trippy, you are a fool who thinks he knows because he was told.., and examined by people who know
LOL
Right... So I provide a rational cogent argument, even offering to provide you to links on toxicity data, and give a breif summary of the state of our knowledge of toxicity, and multiple toxicity loads.
And you respond with what... Empty abusive twaddle?
Oh and as far as your ignoring me goes Zarkov?
Your loss, not mine.
Your loss, not mine.
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 15 2008, 06:23 AM)
I see Templeghost also knows more about multiple toxicity loads then the worlds experts.. By now it should be obvious that you and Zarkov have no idea what you're talking about...
I see Templeghost also knows more about multiple toxicity loads.. then the worlds experts, well of course, I am the man who knows the truth about God, and the spirit which is living in the people. I also know a great deal about the beast which has ten horns and seven heads.
I have enjoyed reading many of your posts trippy, because you know a great deal about chemistry. When I speak here, in general, I only speak to the things I know with all my heart and soul. I do not know many of the things which men know, but I do know what the spirit teaches me. I am comfortable with that.
I see Templeghost also knows more about multiple toxicity loads.. then the worlds experts, well of course, I am the man who knows the truth about God, and the spirit which is living in the people. I also know a great deal about the beast which has ten horns and seven heads.
I have enjoyed reading many of your posts trippy, because you know a great deal about chemistry. When I speak here, in general, I only speak to the things I know with all my heart and soul. I do not know many of the things which men know, but I do know what the spirit teaches me. I am comfortable with that.
QUOTE (templeghost+Mar 15 2008, 07:54 PM)
I see Templeghost also knows more about multiple toxicity loads.. then the worlds experts, well of course, I am the man who knows the truth about God, and the spirit which is living in the people. I also know a great deal about the beast which has ten horns and seven heads.
I have enjoyed reading many of your posts trippy, because you know a great deal about chemistry. When I speak here, in general, I only speak to the things I know with all my heart and soul. I do not know many of the things which men know, but I do know what the spirit teaches me. I am comfortable with that.
So then you accept the fact that the first row of transition metals, although it contains many that are essential for life, are just as toxic as any other row of transition metals (in some cases, more so).
I have enjoyed reading many of your posts trippy, because you know a great deal about chemistry. When I speak here, in general, I only speak to the things I know with all my heart and soul. I do not know many of the things which men know, but I do know what the spirit teaches me. I am comfortable with that.
So then you accept the fact that the first row of transition metals, although it contains many that are essential for life, are just as toxic as any other row of transition metals (in some cases, more so).
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 15 2008, 06:57 AM)
So then you accept the fact that the first row of transition metals, although it contains many that are essential for life, are just as toxic as any other row of transition metals (in some cases, more so).
Of course trippy, especially where they are phase shifted by external magnetic vectors. Very toxic indeed!
(is thinking about his mom saying all things in moderation)
Of course trippy, especially where they are phase shifted by external magnetic vectors. Very toxic indeed!
(is thinking about his mom saying all things in moderation)
QUOTE (templeghost+Mar 15 2008, 08:24 PM)
Of course trippy, especially where they are phase shifted by external magnetic vectors. Very toxic indeed!
(is thinking about his mom saying all things in moderation)
What makes you think magnetic fields have anything to do with it?
There are several instances of us subjecting ourselves to intense B-fields without ill effects.
Moreover, the toxicity of mercury arguably is not dependent on b-field strength (take the prevalence of mercury poisining among hatters in victorian England - hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter")
(is thinking about his mom saying all things in moderation)
What makes you think magnetic fields have anything to do with it?
There are several instances of us subjecting ourselves to intense B-fields without ill effects.
Moreover, the toxicity of mercury arguably is not dependent on b-field strength (take the prevalence of mercury poisining among hatters in victorian England - hence the phrase "Mad as a hatter")
QUOTE (Trippy+Mar 15 2008, 07:29 AM)
What makes you think magnetic fields have anything to do with it?
O dear, must I give away all my secrets?
My thoughts are constantly drawn to the aharanov-bohm effect, whereby magnetic vector potentials induce a phase shift in the wavefunction of surrounding charged particles.
In recent times various research projects have shown that the phase of charged particles can greatly affect the output of proteins, and, I gather, all manner of biological systems.
With this in mind, the powerful magnetic vector potentials from transformers, large electric motors, and hydro generators would appear to produce quantum-electromagnetic distortions which affect the chemistry of the body, especially in the case of highly permeable metals, and metals with only a single electron in the outer valence shell such as gold, silver, and copper.
In recent days, numerous studies are offering clues into the nature of this interaction and showing that MRI scanners affect the chemistry within the brain, and the human physiology in general.
Many more spiritual examples are worthy of examination as well.
O dear, must I give away all my secrets?
My thoughts are constantly drawn to the aharanov-bohm effect, whereby magnetic vector potentials induce a phase shift in the wavefunction of surrounding charged particles.
In recent times various research projects have shown that the phase of charged particles can greatly affect the output of proteins, and, I gather, all manner of biological systems.
With this in mind, the powerful magnetic vector potentials from transformers, large electric motors, and hydro generators would appear to produce quantum-electromagnetic distortions which affect the chemistry of the body, especially in the case of highly permeable metals, and metals with only a single electron in the outer valence shell such as gold, silver, and copper.
In recent days, numerous studies are offering clues into the nature of this interaction and showing that MRI scanners affect the chemistry within the brain, and the human physiology in general.
Many more spiritual examples are worthy of examination as well.
QUOTE
the first row of transition metals, although it contains many that are essential for life, are just as toxic as any other row of transition metals
enough of misunderstandings
the above is true, I never said it wasn't
and certainly more and more is being uncovered
You must therefore understand that modern man has quite a load, an alloy mixed into his very being
Now the controversy is
Does this alloy mix cause adverse "cellular/enzymic affects" in human mental processes
we know that many metals precipitate cancer..... physical disease/illness
the proven mental aspect has been confined by science to several metals... Pb, Hg, As, Cd and several more
Fe, Cu, Mn etc.....
It turns out that some are synergistic, some are lone wolves.... some cause depletions of essentials
BUT all metal ions in excess will inhibit enzymic processes in cells
and considering that the general load on the population have been markedly high in the past (a legacy in the ground/air/water.... fields etc) and even now in some industrial areas,
or even deliberate additions and adulterations to food lines...
Remember that world wide use of fertiliser has spread cadmium and other toxics across the fertile lands of this world....
you talk of cars and their adverse pollution..... almost all major centres of humanity live in such a *** heap
As a biochemist, my experience would cause me to believe all excess metal ions, cause mental changes
therefore all life on this planet is toxic, not sane... insane, not responsible, mad,,,,,, etc
whatever words you wish to use.
I do not think we all disagree on basic matters, we just disagree on details,,,,,
and I expect the degree of madness expressed by the general population.
I have some good links at my site, but it seems to be becoming more and more unavailable the more I discuss this matter and oil induced global climate change on the net.
QUOTE (Zarkov+Mar 15 2008, 04:23 AM)
I have some good links at my site,
And I have some beachfront property in Arizona for sale.
Cheap.
Arthur
And I have some beachfront property in Arizona for sale.
Cheap.
Arthur
http://www.physorg.com/news124614574.html
>> Giving up smoking during pregnancy may boost the chances of giving birth to an easy going child >>
easy ??
ADHD, Autistic spectrum etc..... wonder what a world would be like when all babies are poisoned out of their skull
http://www.physorg.com/news124618977.html
>> Under pressure from Congress, the government released a controversial draft report Wednesday that suggests pollution is causing health problems in some parts of the Great Lakes states, including cancer and premature births.
The document was produced by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But CDC administrators quickly distanced themselves from the work, saying that some of the science is weak, and that they released it after accusations of a cover-up. >>>
Very controversial work, as it points a finger at EVERYONE without exception.... even those that knows and tell us what to do LOL idiots wind
mmmmh, best "Don't Look Now !"
>> Giving up smoking during pregnancy may boost the chances of giving birth to an easy going child >>
easy ??
ADHD, Autistic spectrum etc..... wonder what a world would be like when all babies are poisoned out of their skull
http://www.physorg.com/news124618977.html
>> Under pressure from Congress, the government released a controversial draft report Wednesday that suggests pollution is causing health problems in some parts of the Great Lakes states, including cancer and premature births.
The document was produced by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But CDC administrators quickly distanced themselves from the work, saying that some of the science is weak, and that they released it after accusations of a cover-up. >>>
Very controversial work, as it points a finger at EVERYONE without exception.... even those that knows and tell us what to do LOL idiots wind
mmmmh, best "Don't Look Now !"
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