In the article below, if they can make a perfect voice, by the use of mathamitcs, then could they make a perfect human, or would the overcompleteness, drive this perfect human, into another stage of evolution?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7426923.stm

Formula 'secret of perfect voice'

The perfect voice would have elements of Dame Judi Dench

Researchers say they have worked out a mathematical formula to find the perfect human voice.
The study, commissioned by Post Office Telecoms, asked people to rate 50 voices then analysed the results.

It found the best female voice to be a mixture of Mariella Frostrup, Dame Judi
Dench and Honor Blackman. Alan Rickman and Jeremy Irons did best for the men.
The research was conducted by linguist Andrew Linn, of Sheffield University, and sound engineer Shannon Harris.

The pair worked out their formula based on the combination of tone, speed, frequency, words per minute and intonation.
They concluded the ideal voice should utter no more than 164 words per minute and pause for 0.48 seconds between sentences. Sentences themselves should fall rather than rise in intonation.

Vocal traits associated with positive characteristics, such as confidence and trust, scored highly with listeners.
 This formula gives us an exciting glimpse into the way voices work and what makes them appealing or repelling 
Professor Andrew Linn


Professor Linn said: "As humans we instinctively know which voices send shivers down our spine and which make us shudder with disgust.
"The emotional responses panellists had to the voices were surprising and go some way to explaining how voiceover artists or radio DJs are selected, or why particular celebrity voices appeal."

He said most men found presenter Mariella Frostrup's voice "mesmerising" because it was deep, slow and confident.
Actor Jeremy Irons came very close to the ideal voice model, speaking at 200 words per minute and pausing for 1.2 seconds between sentences.

Professor Linn said this explained why his "deep gravelly tones" inspired trust in listeners.
He said: "This formula gives us an exciting glimpse into the way voices work and what makes them appealing or repelling."

The formula showed the BBC's Jonathan Ross, on the other hand, spoke too quickly, with very short pauses between sentences.
The researchers said the presenter's varied range of voice, with frequent highs and lows was associated with expressiveness and intelligence. But his rising intonation was usually linked with someone weak or unsure.

Scintillating stuff phil, from your astounding & most poignantly brain-shredding posted material, one can safely assume you grunt a bit.

Real interesting article.

But, isn't perfection a subjective concept?

i think it would be impossible for them to create a perfect anything because everyone has a different opinion on what there idea of perfect is.

Oh, I don't think we could ever design the perfect human. Our minds cannot handle such calculations. There is an infinity (theoretically) within us. I'm trying to think of a way to draw unlimited power from the universe....and I'm losing it just thinking about that. I have a massive headache.

Anyway, the human body is complex...I don't think we could ever understand the entire inner universe. People think of infinity as 999999... etc etc.....but infinity can go the other way .000000...1. How small can the smallest fraction be?? It can go on forever....we have no idea the forces and the energy that can act upon the things that we know. At the smallest infinite fraction, might be the force, energy, or particle that we will need to understand everything and the makeup of the universe. That's probably why we came up with the idea of Quantum Physics.

As far as the type, understanding ideas and communications...etc.....is only a matter of perception. For instance, if someone perceives one second as one second..they will on retain the knowledge of that one second. HOWEVER, if someone has a high level of perception, and can perceive that one second twice as long as the other person. Then, that person will gain 2 seconds of knowledge compared to the person's one second. He'll notice 100% more.

Now, it goes on to say, what I call the exponential theory of time perception....the younger you are the more you learn..not only from a biological stand point. Say a 2 y.o. learns information for the next 2 years......that information will pretty much be his whole life..and will perceive it as everything in his life. However, if a 40 year old decides to learn for 2 years....that only encompasses 1/21 of his life...and will not learn it as much because his perception is not there as opposed to the 2 year old.

And what the heck am I talking about.....lol. Oh, I have a headache....anyway...I guess it's something like in order to have a better human, we must increase our perception of time....and slow it down.

GOSH, ANYONE HAVE ANY EXCEDRIN FOR MIGRAINE?????

Again. There is no such thing as a 'perfect' human. Perfection is purely subjective, it has nothing to do with being able to "handle such calculations"

OH, i agree that a perfect human is subjective and only a matter of opinion. I probably mistook perfect for superior.....in mind and body.....with better performance etc. That would require understanding a heck of alot more than what we understand now about human makeup.

NOW being the key word. 200 years ago we were using leeches. By today's standards, even medical techniques from 50-60 years ago seem archaic.

The idea of creating a 'perfect' human being is of course nonsense which distracts from the reality. The reality is that we have been improving on natural human ability all the time.

What is a microscope or telescope if not extensions of the scales we can naturally see for instance? There are many other examples.

I guess some expect to see a 'Robocop' style application before they connect the dots.

But the truth is that we are always developing ways to reach further, just not necessarily encapsulated internally in one entity.