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tikay
A gigantic cave of crystals has been discovered in an old silver mine in Spain.


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The geode, which is eight metres (26ft) long and crammed full of gypsum prisms, has been put under police guard to prevent souvenir hunters from raiding the extraordinary natural phenomenon.

The geologist who announced the find, Javier Garcia-Guinea, wants to turn the site into a tourist attraction.

He told BBC News Online that up to 10 people could sit inside the geode - an object normally small enough to hold in your hands.

"Bending your body between the huge crystals is an incredible sensation," he said. "When I was young I dreamt of flying, but never to go into a geode internally covered with transparent crystals


Rumours of the existence of a giant gypsum geode had been circulating among mineral collectors since December.

But it was only on 28 May that Javier Garcia-Guinea, from the Spanish Council for Scientific Research (CSIC) in Madrid, finally managed to track down the cave.

"The crystals are absolutely transparent and perfect," he said. The geologist has searched the international literature and can find no other object to compare in size.

The geode - essentially a rock cavity which has become lined with crystalline deposits - is eight meters in length, 1.8 metres wide and 1.7 metres high (26 feet by six by six).

The crystals of gypsum - hydrous calcium sulphate - are about half a metre in length.


The giant geode may have formed at the same time as a geological event called the Messinian salinity crisis. At this time, about six million years ago, the Mediterranean Ocean evaporated, depositing thick layers of salts. The same, salt-saturated fluids could have filled up the Spanish geode, which lies near the coast.

The drying out of the Mediterranean was probably caused by a restriction in the straits of Gibraltar, the sea's only connection with rest of the Earth's oceans.


Javier Garcia-Guinea has blocked the entrance to the geode with five tonnes of rock and called in the police to guard the location. After a period of scientific study, he hopes the cave can be turned into a major local tourist attraction.

"The next possibility is to drill a hole to fix a window in the geode to show the tourists. Almeria is little town with nice beaches just four kilometres from the mine and is well known to English holidaymakers."

June 12, 2000 - BBC


http://www.crystalinks.com/crystalcave.html
tikay
I cant believe no one was willing to reply to this post...maybe more wish to see this cave, so I am replying just to bring it back to the attention of the people who will appreciate this article.
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"THEY"
I completely missed that last time, but then I wasn't here much in July...

I have some pictures I downloaded at work, but I don't have the info here at home, so this is kindof a bookmark for me. There is another cave recently found (I think in 2007) in Mexico or something that is basically selenite crystals that are 3 - 4 feet THICK, and 40 feet long or so. I will post it tomorrow. My nephews came to work with me one day and thought it was photoshopped (there is a man standing on top of a crystal in the cave). Its absolutely amazing! I would LOVE to be able to go into those mines.
tikay
Thanks THEY! I hope you can post them tomorrow...if not then, well anytime soon! I want to see that. Truth is often stranger than fiction! What I would give to spend some time with those crystals....yes!
TRoc
Hi all,


Just for "comment", and contribution:

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Historic photo of a 14 m long spodumene "log" excavated in 1904 (in South Dakota, USA)
*Photo source : G.M. Schwartz and reproduced from Economic Geology, vol. 20 (1925)


but the "cool" kind that you're talking about:

661 pounds, from Switzerland

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/526087/the_b...rystal_on_erth/


As usual, claims of the "biggest" anything are argued over length and mass.


ciao,

T.Roc

"THEY"
Ok, here is what I promised.

[URL=crystals in Mexico's Naica mountain in the Chihuahuan desert]crystals in Mexico's Naica mountain in the Chihuahuan desert[/URL]

or

http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html

Also, I did a google once using this phrase - http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html - and found a ton more articles that had even more pictures. Some pictures are good, some are poor quality, some are small, some are big..... But trust me, I have almost every picture downloaded. They are soo cool!

I have a chunk (log) of selenite that weighs about 8 pounds, and a candle holder that weighs about 3 pounds, but WOW. I want one!!! laugh.gif

Troc, that crystal is amazingly clear for its size. Thank you!

ps - this is one of the pics that I usually have on my desktop.

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here is my favorite
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tikay
Amazing stuff you guys thanks Troc I am happy to see that others are interested. That 14m long spodumene log is pretty incredible.
Then here comes THEY "to blow us both out of the water"! (american expression) well They...that is going to be pretty hard to top at all I think.
I have to know where all these crystals are I am going to go check on the articles. Also your link Troc...incredible stuff !
Thanks again!
*toothy smile* biggrin.gif
tikay
Im stealing those pictures to share with others and I downloaded the metacafe video-clip...It's beginning to feel a bit like Christmas! wink.gif

mele kalikimaka y'all
photojack
tikay, When I was four years old my father was the first full-time electrician at Carlsbad Caverns. I grew up in geological splendor and have visited other remarkable caves including the "Reed Flute" cave in China. Stalactites and stalagmites can rival crystals in their amazing beauty and length of time in formation. "Hooikaika oi aku makou." Hawaiian for "We try harder!" biggrin.gif
tikay
QUOTE (photojack+Dec 8 2007, 01:10 AM)
tikay,  When I was four years old my father was the first full-time electrician at Carlsbad Caverns.  I grew up in geological splendor and have visited other remarkable caves including the "Reed Flute" cave in China.  Stalactites and stalagmites can rival crystals in their amazing beauty and length of time in formation.  "Hooikaika oi aku makou."  Hawaiian for "We try harder!"  biggrin.gif

The fascination for me photojack is in the crystal...I have seen beautiful stalagmites & stalagtites in the caves I have been in, in the appalachian mountains...they are tremendous & stupendous, yes, but I am mostly interested in the way crystals conduct energy, if conduct is the right word for it.

I imagine what quartz like that one in metacafe is producing, and why? And what it could be used for...and I imagine what could be done with them in a healing atmosphere...we wierdos use crystals in healing...even a small one works some magic see...a stalagmite is not made of the same stuff, thats all.
I'll need to see what they are formed of, because the water that causes their formation is carrying ...hmmm...I am curious, I guess I have no idea what they are formed of. I assumed the surrounding minerals, clays & soils mixed together. Wow thanks for bringing this to my attention. I am going to have to do some research on that now!

Caves are so cool really, I have been in one, that hardly anyone ever visited, that was used in escapes during the times of slavery (abolition) and in there was a huge( maybe 40 feet diameter) huge for any cave Id been in, almost circular room, that was called the ballroom...ironically....I doubt any waltzing went on in there. It was so supra dark and incredibly quiet.....like nothing else ever experienced (((even the womb has it's lights and sounds))) , no-where else in the world is like the quiet darkness of a cave.

Nice hearing from you, sounds like you had fun spelunking with your papa!
My dad was an electricion at a nuclear plant in Tennessee. Good pay but not somewhere to take your kids to work!

mahalo nui loa
(thank you very much)
tikay
WOW...the Reed Flute Cave!


http://www.molon.de/galleries/China/Guanxi/Reed/

Thanks again photojack.
photojack
tikay, Mahalo nui loa for the link to the Reed Flute Cave. I took pictures just like those when I was there. That reflecting pool and those colors are unimaginable until you have been there. I took long time exposures in the Carlsbad Caverns when I visited 44 years later, and I was pleased with the colors and detail, but it was nothing like that one in China. I remember a TV show decades ago where someone tuned the stalactites in a cave and created an "organ" played with a keyboard using the vibrations from those formations! Is that on YouTube? biggrin.gif
"THEY"
QUOTE (tikay+Dec 8 2007, 12:46 PM)
The fascination for me photojack is in the crystal...I have seen beautiful stalagmites & stalagtites in the caves I have been in, in the appalachian mountains...they are tremendous & stupendous, yes, but I am mostly interested in the way crystals conduct energy, if conduct is the right word for it.

I have often wondered about this. The energy and healing powers of crystals is considered pseudoscience, yet a friend of mine swirled a crystal over the palm of my hand, and I felt a hot spot in my hand. How do you explain what I felt if it truly is pseudoscience? I wasn't told before hand what to expect, or what I would feel, so it isn't the placebo effect. But still I wonder.
Gehn
QUOTE ("THEY"+Dec 10 2007, 06:24 PM)
I have often wondered about this. The energy and healing powers of crystals is considered pseudoscience, yet a friend of mine swirled a crystal over the palm of my hand, and I felt a hot spot in my hand.

I think crystals can heal anything. You see, if you just give me one of those big ones, I'll start to feel a lot happier very quickly wink.gif .

It's the same for me with anything big and shiny biggrin.gif .

- Gehn
"THEY"
Me too! Every time I see a gorgeous HUGE crystal, I look at it and wonder how I could ever get one of those up on my property......... blink.gif

Guess I will just have to accept the fact that the only thing truly cool that will ever stand (as a monolith) will be my lightning struck cedar snag. At least that makes ME happy. But if you ever steal a mondo crystal, I will hide it for you!
tikay
I love collecting beads of gemstones and I have a few small semi-precious gems in a box waiting to be mounted...I have nothing of real value (anyone wondering) but it is a fun hobby, I make necklaces with the gemstone beads...or just leave them in tins (they are on the industrial bookshelf above the hi-def television you freaks...just try me) LOL... waiting to be made into something. I like having them around. I like silver jewelry & (rings) with gems for my fingers, silver representing the moon while gold is for the sun. I am (Dreaming T.K.) after all.

Last night I drempt of many things...the day is so much more boring!

la luna es loca? biggrin.gif

Belief does not have to play a part in healing with crystals, they work regardless.
Sapo
Tikay: Sugar Magnolia. I guess you do like the blues if you dance here, dear. Still, welcome and I'll do Gongyo with you in mind. (the Smilies don't have anything serene, do they?) dry.gif
tikay
QUOTE (Sapo+Dec 10 2007, 12:33 PM)
Tikay: Sugar Magnolia. I guess you do like the blues if you dance here, dear. Still, welcome and I'll do Gongyo with you in mind. (the Smilies don't have anything serene, do they?) dry.gif

Nothing meditative I suppose...I do this for the third eye though, ~*~
(made it up myself)...maybe you can come up with another?
here is my wise owl @,@...thats all i have come up with.

Nichiren is a dying ember for me, I moved away from the huge SGI center on Nordoff...and my chanting partners. I am supposed to reconnect out here (I know Taeko) but I have yet to get that together since getting a car again.
(Sort of gave up chanting for now) but thanks for chanting for me...that is beautiful!


tikay
Just found this from wotsox... in/on another thread:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6_1.htm
landon
what kind of crystals in spain
Gehn
QUOTE (landon+Dec 11 2007, 08:42 AM)
what kind of crystals in spain

Big ones.

- Gehn biggrin.gif
tikay
QUOTE (landon+Dec 11 2007, 01:42 AM)
what kind of crystals in spain

Go to the first (original) post here...thread often dissolve into other subjects over time. smile.gif
tikay
QUOTE (Sapo+Dec 10 2007, 12:33 PM)
Tikay: Sugar Magnolia. I guess you do like the blues if you dance here, dear. Still, welcome and I'll do Gongyo with you in mind. (the Smilies don't have anything serene, do they?) dry.gif

something serene for you...
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barakn
QUOTE ("THEY"+Dec 10 2007, 06:24 PM)
I have often wondered about this.  The energy and healing powers of crystals is considered pseudoscience, yet a friend of mine swirled a crystal over the palm of my hand, and I felt a hot spot in my hand.  How do you explain what I felt if it truly is pseudoscience?  I wasn't told before hand what to expect, or what I would feel, so it isn't the placebo effect.  But still I wonder.

How is that not a placebo effect? You've undoubtedly heard many references to crystal "energy" in your lifetime, or you wouldn't have used the word yourself. Does the word "energy" convey images of ice cubes and snowballs or is it a warm tingly word? Subconsciously you were expecting to feel crystal energy and of course energy is going to feel warm. I propose the following experiment:

Construct a table with a large wall dividing it in two. Place two holes in the wall, both at the same height and about two feet apart. Wire a light to a power source and a switch, placing the light on side of the wall and the switch on the other. On the switch side seat one or two experimenters (the second one if it is too difficult for the main experimenter to perform the experiment and take notes simultaneously). On the other side place a series of subjects. The experimenter tells each subject to place their hands through the holes and hold them there palm side up. He or she then says that whenever the light flashes the experimenter will swirl a crystal over either the left or the right hand, and instructs the subject to state out loud which hand they think the crystal was swirled over. The experimenter will then periodically switch on the light and swirl a crystal over the subject's right hand, left hand, or no hand at all.

My prediction is that the subjects will not be able to say which hand the crystal was over any better than if they had simply been guessing, regardless of whether they think crystal energy feels hot or cold or like a powdered doughnut, and they will attempt to say right or left when the tricky researcher has not held the crystal over either. At the very least this experiment would come closer to answering the question than your anecdote does.
IAMoraes
QUOTE (tikay+Dec 6 2007, 08:01 PM)
I cant believe no one was willing to reply to this post...maybe more wish to see this cave, so I am replying just to bring it back to the attention of the people who will appreciate this article.
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There was some sort of going on here on July 9th, wasn't there?

Wasn't it one of those record-holding days for users on PhysOrg. (no, I just checked, it was July 26th)
I had other tragic problems too at that time, like being in love with Brenda Song and Hannah Montana... and, uh, other serious other issues too... unsure.gif unsure.gif


Anyhoo, that was a fantastic find that I missed the first time around too! I love those photos. I came from the mines region and am used to geodes, but an 8 meter geode is incredible!

I just bought a geode last year from an e-friend, and my daughter is always shaking it to hear the water. I don't know where it is now, I think she has it in her room...

tikay
Yeah I guess I got lost in the shuffle of activities! Me don' like being ignored! tongue.gif

photojack
tikay, Here's something therapeutic for you and all. rolleyes.gif From one of my favorite composers comes an impressionistic music composition based on the imagery invoked from a river, the Moldau as it grows from a babbling brook to a majestic, powerful river, with a storm and gypsies dancing thrown in for good effect and variety. Music for the contemplation of crystals and nature. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLPLO90fSk and continued to its dramatic conclusion with the storm portion here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0lPLOeBzyA&feature=related

I get goosebumps when listening to this piece. What's the Physics behind this? biggrin.gif
tikay
Umm...MuSiC SeTs the SoUL AFIRE! biggrin.gif Thanks photojack...listening now.
N O M
On the subject of crystals.

Some crystals form due to minerals dissolved in groundwater, others are due to slow cooling of molten minerals. I have always wondered if there would be many crystals formed within the ground-zero of underground nuclear tests (not that I'm volunteering to go and look ph34r.gif ). These blast chambers could be ideal places for crystal formation. Certainly plenty of molten rock, which will take a fair time to cool. Some of these underground test sites will have had seawater leak into them as well, which could make things interesting.

I can't imagine healing energies in any of these crystals though blink.gif
"THEY"
QUOTE (photojack+Jan 8 2008, 10:53 AM)

I get goosebumps when listening to this piece. What's the Physics behind this? biggrin.gif

Who Cares! biggrin.gif But here is an interesting article similar to that train of thought anyway.

http://www.livescience.com/animals/080103-harp-therapy.html

Humans aren't the only ones to enjoy music. Its a very cute story.
tikay
Who cares! biggrin.gif


NOW for some soft harp sounds for the fiesty THEY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBhVX5HZYqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KZpSZVSJ4


Maybe she will calm down and come to her senses...hehe laugh.gif
Sapo
QUOTE (tikay+Jan 8 2008, 04:04 PM)
Who cares! biggrin.gif


NOW for some soft harp sounds for the fiesty THEY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBhVX5HZYqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KZpSZVSJ4


Maybe she will calm down and come to her senses...hehe laugh.gif

To calm the Savage's breast? laugh.gif

I would not recommend "Uncle Moe's"... sad.gif
"THEY"
QUOTE (tikay+Jan 8 2008, 01:04 PM)
Who cares! biggrin.gif


NOW for some soft harp sounds for the fiesty THEY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBhVX5HZYqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KZpSZVSJ4


Maybe she will calm down and come to her senses...hehe laugh.gif

Okay, so TRACEY knows me well enough to know how passionate I am about my music, (and even somewhat my capabilities) but others may not. So let me rephrase "Who cares!"........ biggrin.gif

"I don't care about the physics behind why you get goosebumps when you listen to beautiful music. All I care about, is that it IS beautiful music. Beautiful enough that it gives you goosebumps when you listen to it. Music is the most amazing thing in the world (IMHO)! And if you get goosebumps, then it must be amazingly good, so listen to it a lot and throughly enjoy the experience!" any better? cool.gif

Sapo -
"To calm the Savage's breast?"
only one??

awwwwwwww, they don;t have a devil emoticon........
<insert devil emoticon here!>
Sapo
QUOTE ("THEY"+Jan 8 2008, 05:52 PM)
Okay, so TRACEY knows me well enough to know how passionate I am about my music, (and even somewhat my capabilities) but others may not. So let me rephrase "Who cares!"........ biggrin.gif

"I don't care about the physics behind why you get goosebumps when you listen to beautiful music. All I care about, is that it IS beautiful music. Beautiful enough that it gives you goosebumps when you listen to it. Music is the most amazing thing in the world (IMHO)! And if you get goosebumps, then it must be amazingly good, so listen to it a lot and throughly enjoy the experience!" any better? cool.gif

Sapo -
"To calm the Savage's breast?"
only one??

awwwwwwww, they don;t have a devil emoticon........
<insert devil emoticon here!>

So perhaps you're a better shot with a rifle than a bow? laugh.gif
N O M
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 9 2008, 11:21 AM)
To calm the Savage's breast? laugh.gif

Don't start up about breasts again. (Brave Sir Robin Parsons) was drooling enough yesterday in other threads ph34r.gif
Sapo
QUOTE (N O M+Jan 8 2008, 06:13 PM)
Don't start up about breasts again. (Brave Sir Robin Parsons) was drooling enough yesterday in other threads ph34r.gif

Sorry. I think he just wants bigger ones for himself, to help stay the cold winds in his alley. laugh.gif

Edit: I reported the old scuzz for that remark, BTW.
"THEY"
So did I,,, ph34r.gif

And yes, MUCH better with a rifle than a bow. Unless you can find a 10 lb bow or something unsure.gif

Soooooo, does that mean you can only have one (ok, NOM doesn't want me to say it, BUT....) <brst> --- to be a good shot with a bow?

Probably better for me to learn sword fighting now, don't you think? If I am supposed to rise up out of a lake with one, I should be able to wield it well, too.
Sapo
QUOTE ("THEY"+Jan 8 2008, 06:33 PM)
So did I,,, ph34r.gif

And yes, MUCH better with a rifle than a bow. Unless you can find a 10 lb bow or something unsure.gif

Soooooo, does that mean you can only have one (ok, NOM doesn't want me to say it, BUT....) <brst> --- to be a good shot with a bow?

Probably better for me to learn sword fighting now, don't you think? If I am supposed to rise up out of a lake with one, I should be able to wield it well, too.

Classical Amazons did a hemi-mastectomy. ohmy.gif

I can teach you basic kendo, but of course we'll not use blades for practice. Mine may be rusty...

laugh.gif
"THEY"
QUOTE (Sapo+Jan 8 2008, 03:43 PM)
I can teach you basic kendo,

You're ON, Sensei!
photojack
"THEY", If you want some archery instruction, I've "been there, done that." During two semesters of archery in college, I developed the ability to usually put all six arrows into the bulls eye from the 30 and 40 yard lines while using a 40 or 50 lb. bow. I later took a summer job as an archery instructor at the mountain YMCA Camp nearby. I won't try shooting apples on top of people's heads... anyone have a manikin? biggrin.gif tongue.gif I've also done Civil War re-enactment with my .50 caliber Hawkins black-powder muzzle loader. Or I could give you instruction with my Winchester Model 75 .22 match rifle. But I actually listen to more music now, than I shoot archery or lead balls or bullets. cool.gif
N O M
QUOTE ("THEY"+Jan 9 2008, 12:33 PM)
So did I,,, ph34r.gif

And yes, MUCH better with a rifle than a bow. Unless you can find a 10 lb bow or something unsure.gif

Soooooo, does that mean you can only have one (ok, NOM doesn't want me to say it, BUT....) <brst> --- to be a good shot with a bow?

Probably better for me to learn sword fighting now, don't you think? If I am supposed to rise up out of a lake with one, I should be able to wield it well, too.

I'm fine with it, but the prospect of (Brave Sir Robin) drooling disgusts me mellow.gif
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