21st February 2006 - 05:01 PM
I can't believe that in 2006 the pro life group can't even understand the pro choice point of view. Pro choice means that "I think everyone should be able to choose their own course of action", and it DOES NOT MEAN "Abortions for all......get pregnant so you to can join in the joy of having an abortion". As pro choice people, many feel that abortions are wrong, and that they would never get an abortion, however they are enlightened enough to say that although its not right for me under any circumstances (that I can conceive of) for others it might be the best, or only choice for their situation or circumstances. Messenger, if you have not experienced extreme poverty, then you, like me are very lucky! However imagine being in such poverty that you can't feed yourself, let alone a baby. Your in the states, and you can't afford any medical insurance to get the proper doctor check ups, or anything like that. You don't want to have the baby because you will not be able to feed or cloth it, or basically take care of it at all, and it might die of malnutrition, or something else. You also don't want to go the adoption route because you can't afford to feed yourself, let alone you and a growing baby. Is abortion still just as wrong then? Get out of your little box and realize that your life experiences do not constitute all of the life experiences in the world. Realize that others might be in situations that you ever never even thought of, and that they are probably in a much better position to make the decision than you.
Abortions should be made legal, and then an educational system that is REALISTIC should be instituted where abstance, as well as safe sex, and also teaching what other sexual acts that are not intercourse can be practiced to achieve pleasurable results. If you think you can stop kids from having sex (I mean all kids, not just some) then you are not living in reality. However, if you think you can teach kids to wait longer before they start having sex, and get more kids to make smart choices, then you are on the right track. What you need to do is to give the kids all of the information, and do it honestly, and then hope they make the smarter decisions on their own. I remember sex education from school, my parents, from religious people, and from talking to my peers. Children aren't stupid and can often tell whenthings are not honest, and when they arent, kids don't listen. If you can't tell the children the honest truth about all of the choices, why would they make the choice you are pushing? Kids often rebel, so without the proper information if you push abstance you are just as likely to make them choose to have sex than get them to choose abstance.
there is not enough punishment for the mothers who commit murder by abortion. I recommend that the court should treat abortion as a criminal offense and put the door open for persecution and even life imprisonment or execution. Then it wont be a common thing.
It isn't an uncommon thing for the parents of the pregnant girl to force her to get an abortion. I know a girl who that happened to. And remember, if its a teenage girl under the age of 18 you wouldn't even be able to prosecute her as an adult, thus eliminating the death penalty or life inprisionment in those cases, cause I am not sure of any country that sentences children to the death penalty (it might happen for children who have been tried as adults, but I suspect even thats very very rare, at least in western countries).
All of these anti abortion arguements have clear distinct counter examples that make them so riduculously stupid. The best way to go is legalization, and then proper education, which teachers the real risks, provides alternative choices that lessen or eliminate the risks. Then we have to hope that the next generation makes smarter sexual choices than this generation. Instead of fighting a losing battle, try to make small strides. I personally would like to see the abortion rate drop to zero, but I would rather have it drop due to smart choices, then because there are now more unwanted children in the world.
Messenger, I have another arguement for premarital sex. As Thomas the Gardener pointed out, when 2 virgins have sex it is very bad sex, often with neither knowing what they are doing. Another thing is that when a women loses her virginity it is very painful, and often times she bleeds. Now who wants to make their brand new wife bleed, and cry on their wedding night (crying from pain, not from happiness). I personally wouldn't want to do that. Everyone has these fantasies of the sex on their wedding night being really romantic and very pleasurable. Now, how romantic and pleasurable is a bloody vagina? For either party? I think that wedding night sex could be a major let down for two virgins, and that would be such a shame considering how great good sex can be both emotionally and physically.