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NidStyles
http://www.physorg.com/news5199.html

I thought about it, if the radio waves, which are a form of radiation, was forced to travel extra distance, because of gravitational lensing, then Einstein has nothing to do with the waves slowing down. Gravitational lensing was around before Einstein, and obviously GR.

There could be other causes of lensing than warped spacetimes, and all of that.
Nakka
Thank you for pointing to this interesting article.

Indeed the issue that Einstein's hypothesis, that the speed of light is a constant and the absolute limit, is in discussion for many years.
It has been proven that the sun's gravitational vector is able to deviate the light coming form a star, and this means that the speed of light is not the absolute speed in the Universe.

This is very important because the entire Theory of Relativity is based on "c", the speed of light, as being a constant and the absolute speed in the Universe.

Personally, I do agree with a part of the concepts in the Theory of Relativity, but not with their mathematical expression. For example:
E=mc2
is a great idea, but the mathematical form may not be entirely exact.
NidStyles
Ahh, at least I am not the only one here having issues with the math. I think his ideas were spot on though. I do agreed with him in the flaws of QM, but I think that belongs in another thread sometime later down the road.
Good Elf
Hi Nid,

He he he... Einstein being blamed for his Theory being right. It is possible to think of Einstein's Theories with different paradigms. One would wonder why though. I also agree that Einstein had some excellent objections to Quantum Theory on the basis of "Philosophy" but it showed that his concept of a "spooky force" was wrong. What seemed impossible to him was indeed possible but he did show the way forward with the EPR Paradox. You just have to hand it to a guy that lived so long ago getting so much right. You then say to yourself... what was it that allowed him to see so much better than many of his peers? Was he a greater Mathematician that the others?... I do not think so, his early papers were "rudimentary" to say the least. Was he just guessing and had a rather good stroke of luck... sort of winning the lottery several times in succession?... I don't think so. Did he really cheat on others work as I have seen stated on this site once?... there is no evidence of that, there are too many who are envious and will not give credit where credit is due. There was a great deal of "Synchronicity" regarding the various things he was plying with but Jung, Freud's greatest pupil, would have had some explanation for this process.
The Mystery of Chance.. Jung & Synchronicity by Peter A. Jordan
I think you must admit that such "luck" is beyond chance and that there is some principle working here and that if you can tap it... it might flow for you too. I am not religious but I am no fool and will accept that in many areas in life we may need assistance. This means that a confluence of influence can be a welcome event. There are those who believe in "nothing" but when the chips are down they may still murmur an intonation for help that sometimes is answered.

Foolishness is a very "good thing" if it sustains us at a time of despair or hopelessness especially if in the end it pays off. I think Einstein had that happy ability to tap something that is greater than just our innate abilities and to see something that can reach further than we normally grasp. Is this the influence of a "God"... the ancients thought so... but they had very poor judgment and were not very good at seeing the big picture. They often responded irrationally to these events to "force" them to recur. In South America, not so long ago thousands of lives would be sacrificed in a single day to try and work some "miracle" for some totally unearned boon. It is well that this practice did not function as expected. Seems to have worked to the opposite result. biggrin.gif

Hitler also thought that he may be able to influence "fate" and change human destiny. Luckily we did not go down that path... or did we? It seems there are still those who hold such notions and wish to try and "... Steal fire from the Heavens". We see another form of this misguided practice today where brutal sacrifice is supposed to gain a boon... once again it will not work in the long term.

Human creativity may ultimately be linked to this process and who are we to rebuke it? You should then ask if you want to harness this "synchronous effect" what do you need to do? Or will you be the skeptic and stand back and pour ridicule on those who hope for a positive outcome. I think we do need to be focused on our goal and we need to not be so intent on trying to bring down the work of others. We should be able to erect our own edifices to achieve our goals... if in that process it eclipses others you cannot then be held responsible.

I still think Einstein was on to something really close to some ultimate "Truth" and would have achieved more but for the scorn of his peers. That enmity continues today. I do not think it will help them it may even work against them. Hey... it may already have worked against them. wink.gif Not you though Nid, but you like me, wonder and think about the lessons still to learn. You will know it when it happens because it will not be sadness and grief that will be its fruits but joy and happiness, something this World has forgotten.

Cheers
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