I will no longer log in, or even browse this sh!tehole.
And in the everylasting words of cartman:
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SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME.
- Gehn
Following Sapo's lead, I'm out. I'm sick and tired of these dumb sh!t religious people spamming this place trying to convert everyone to their own beliefs, and the mor0ns with their own poorly - made theories of the universe, and the id!ots who have conspiracy theories for everything under the sun, and those good - for - nothing moderators who do f.uck all for the forum.
I will no longer log in, or even browse this sh!tehole.
And in the everylasting words of cartman:
User posted image: User posted image
SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME.
- Gehn
I will no longer log in, or even browse this sh!tehole.
And in the everylasting words of cartman:
User posted image: User posted image
SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME.
- Gehn
Run along to some pocket of atheism where no one will challenge your ideas. I'm glad that you left the kitchen because its clear that you couldn't handle the heat.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 27 2008, 08:44 PM)
Run along to some pocket of atheism where no one will challenge your ideas. I'm glad that you left the kitchen because its clear that you couldn't handle the heat.
Proving just what an arse you really are. So much for your do-goody christian ways. No attempt to find out just how deap and genuine Gehn is, or how intelligent.
You will have no friends here arsehole, but that is nothing new
Proving just what an arse you really are. So much for your do-goody christian ways. No attempt to find out just how deap and genuine Gehn is, or how intelligent.
You will have no friends here arsehole, but that is nothing new
We will ALWAYS love you Gehn.
Dont you EVER forget that.
Take care of yourself, and dont do anything stupid (Code subject d=(R-u)g+S)).
You made friends and mortal enemies here.
I am planning to do a tribute to Gehn.
To show gratitude.
Ever most kindest regards
Sandra
Bye Gehn!!!!!
Dont you EVER forget that.
Take care of yourself, and dont do anything stupid (Code subject d=(R-u)g+S)).
You made friends and mortal enemies here.
I am planning to do a tribute to Gehn.
To show gratitude.
Ever most kindest regards
Sandra
Bye Gehn!!!!!
QUOTE (Sandra doliak+Jun 27 2008, 09:05 PM)
We will ALWAYS love you Gehn.
Dont you EVER forget that.
Take care of yourself, and dont do anything stupid (Code subject d=(R-u)g+S)).
You made friends and mortal enemies here.
I am planning to do a tribute to Gehn.
To show gratitude.
Ever most kindest regards
Sandra
Bye Gehn!!!!!
I'm with Sandra.
Dont you EVER forget that.
Take care of yourself, and dont do anything stupid (Code subject d=(R-u)g+S)).
You made friends and mortal enemies here.
I am planning to do a tribute to Gehn.
To show gratitude.
Ever most kindest regards
Sandra
Bye Gehn!!!!!
I'm with Sandra.
Gehn, I am sorry to inform you but THIS IS THE BEST FORUM ON THE INTERNET
at least the moderators are reasonable.... and forget the snipes, the slander, and the trolling
just declare IGNORE LIST..EVERYBODY.... and do your thing.... and respond to who you think is OK.........
The world is rapidly going mad, and this is prominently reflected in the internet...
I admit, if you are addicted then removal is a good option.... but logging on a few times a day is healthy
How else are you going to stay in touch will all the 'information overload'
self control is the key..... and forget the rest.
at least the moderators are reasonable.... and forget the snipes, the slander, and the trolling
just declare IGNORE LIST..EVERYBODY.... and do your thing.... and respond to who you think is OK.........
The world is rapidly going mad, and this is prominently reflected in the internet...
I admit, if you are addicted then removal is a good option.... but logging on a few times a day is healthy
How else are you going to stay in touch will all the 'information overload'
self control is the key..... and forget the rest.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 27 2008, 08:44 AM)
Run along to some pocket of atheism where no one will challenge your ideas. I'm glad that you left the kitchen because its clear that you couldn't handle the heat.
How truly christian of you...
idiot.
How truly christian of you...
idiot.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 27 2008, 08:44 AM)
Run along to some pocket of atheism.
Run along to some pocket of HCN gas.
p.s; you retarded fuckwit!
Run along to some pocket of HCN gas.
p.s; you retarded fuckwit!
QUOTE (Gehn+Jun 27 2008, 08:42 AM)
Following Sapo's lead, I'm out. I'm sick and tired of these dumb sh!t religious people spamming this place trying to convert everyone to their own beliefs, and the mor0ns with their own poorly - made theories of the universe, and the id!ots who have conspiracy theories for everything under the sun, and those good - for - nothing moderators who do f.uck all for the forum.
I will no longer log in, or even browse this sh!tehole.
And in the everylasting words of cartman:
User posted image: <a target='_blank' href='http://www.southparkx.net/gallery/data/media/27/cartman-home.jpg'>User posted image</a>
SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME.
- Gehn
Real pity you're off Gehn - more nutjob, lunatics for me I guess? 
I will no longer log in, or even browse this sh!tehole.
And in the everylasting words of cartman:
User posted image: <a target='_blank' href='http://www.southparkx.net/gallery/data/media/27/cartman-home.jpg'>User posted image</a>
SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME.
- Gehn
Real pity you're off Gehn
- more nutjob, lunatics for me I guess?
QUOTE
Run along to some pocket of atheism where no one will challenge your ideas. I'm glad that you left the kitchen because its clear that you couldn't handle the heat.
On the contrary, a recent poll at Sapos' Joint suggests a 60/40 split in favor of the belief in a god. I must confess it surprised me, go figure. You need to do you homework before you go running off at the keyboard.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 27 2008, 03:44 AM)
Run along to some pocket of atheism where no one will challenge your ideas. I'm glad that you left the kitchen because its clear that you couldn't handle the heat.
Athiesm is based on the challenging of ideas. Science is based on the challenging of ideas.
You are based on being an absolute ***** and making a mockery of the Christian faith.
Anywho, sad to see you go Ghen
Athiesm is based on the challenging of ideas. Science is based on the challenging of ideas.
You are based on being an absolute ***** and making a mockery of the Christian faith.
Anywho, sad to see you go Ghen
NO! NOT GEHN TOO!
Its funny that an atheist would call me a mockery of the faith. What do you think you are?
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 28 2008, 05:01 AM)
Its funny that an atheist would call me a mockery of the faith. What do you think you are?
Intelligent - as crazily opposed to you fucktard!
Intelligent - as crazily opposed to you fucktard!
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 28 2008, 01:01 AM)
Its funny that an atheist would call me a mockery of the faith. What do you think you are?
Something you appear not to be. Honest.
Something you appear not to be. Honest.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 28 2008, 05:01 AM)
Its funny that an atheist would call me a mockery of the faith.
Either you're admitting you're a sockpuppet of dad1, or you're really bad at parodying a sockpuppet. Which is it?
An intelligent, honest, rational, open-minded person - basically, the opposite of you.
Either you're admitting you're a sockpuppet of dad1, or you're really bad at parodying a sockpuppet. Which is it?
QUOTE
What do you think you are?
An intelligent, honest, rational, open-minded person - basically, the opposite of you.
I love the way that you insult me while callind yourself openminded and intelligent yet I consider your posts and you discard mine on principle. This smacks of hypocrisy.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 28 2008, 11:44 AM)
I love the way that you insult me.
In that case; you dysentery bucket-headed biblefucked lessron, you'll love this.
In that case; you dysentery bucket-headed biblefucked lessron, you'll love this.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 28 2008, 11:44 AM)
I love the way that you insult me
Only because you're a hypocritical, dishonest, irrational idiot.
Because I am. If you've got some sort of evidence for creation, or the flood, or anything, I'll listen to it. You haven't provided any of those things.
Because I am. If you've got some sort of evidence for creation, or the flood, or anything, I'll listen to it. You haven't provided any of those things.
yet I consider your posts and you discard mine on principle. This smacks of hypocrisy.
That is a complete and blatant lie. Every time I addressed you or your statements in a post, you either ignored them or shrugged them off. That smacks of hypocrisy.
Only because you're a hypocritical, dishonest, irrational idiot.
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while callind yourself openminded and intelligent
Because I am. If you've got some sort of evidence for creation, or the flood, or anything, I'll listen to it. You haven't provided any of those things.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| while callind yourself openminded and intelligent |
Because I am. If you've got some sort of evidence for creation, or the flood, or anything, I'll listen to it. You haven't provided any of those things.
yet I consider your posts and you discard mine on principle. This smacks of hypocrisy.
That is a complete and blatant lie. Every time I addressed you or your statements in a post, you either ignored them or shrugged them off. That smacks of hypocrisy.
You address the uranium issue and then I'll address your arguments.
QUOTE (Bringer-of-Light+Jun 28 2008, 10:42 PM)
You address the uranium issue and then I'll address your arguments.
Trippy has already responded to it. One a similar note (and it goes to show just how hypocritical you are), I addressed one of your arguments before you addressed one of mine, and you completely ignored it. Are you going to respond to it?
Trippy has already responded to it. One a similar note (and it goes to show just how hypocritical you are), I addressed one of your arguments before you addressed one of mine, and you completely ignored it. Are you going to respond to it?
QUOTE (TheDoc+Jun 28 2008, 08:26 PM)
Are you going to respond to it?
Doubtful.
Doubtful.
QUOTE (excaza+Jun 29 2008, 01:40 AM)
Doubtful.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know.
Is BoL a sockpuppet of Dad1 or deadbeat? I still have not seen both BoL and DB online at the same time.
You would think that DB would know how to use a proxy.
You would think that DB would know how to use a proxy.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+Jun 30 2008, 02:38 PM)
Is BoL a sockpuppet of Dad1 or deadbeat?
Neither, he's DuzmA's sockpuppet.
Neither, he's DuzmA's sockpuppet.
QUOTE (Gehn+Jun 27 2008, 04:42 AM)
Following Sapo's lead, I'm out. I'm sick and tired of these dumb sh!t religious people spamming this place trying to convert everyone to their own beliefs, and the mor0ns with their own poorly - made theories of the universe, and the id!ots who have conspiracy theories for everything under the sun, and those good - for - nothing moderators who do f.uck all for the forum.
I was hoping such valuable people leaving Physorg was at best a temporary trend and that the moderators would take note, step up and regain control of this forum.
Sad to say, matters have only gotten worse.
The notable James Randy has stated that the same skeptic and rational arguments are often repetitious due to the ever-growing supporters of pseudoscience and woo. Judging by what I still see going on here thread after thread, that is painfully obvious.
I’m sure to get a few parting shots posted by such people, but you would just be proving my point of why so many are leaving this forum.
I’ll still check in from time to time, read the threads that are of worth and post positives, but I think I am done for now arguing with the supporters of woo, pseudoscience, personal fantasies and the more notable blood-letting fantasies of some.
Be seeing you…
I was hoping such valuable people leaving Physorg was at best a temporary trend and that the moderators would take note, step up and regain control of this forum.
Sad to say, matters have only gotten worse.
The notable James Randy has stated that the same skeptic and rational arguments are often repetitious due to the ever-growing supporters of pseudoscience and woo. Judging by what I still see going on here thread after thread, that is painfully obvious.
I’m sure to get a few parting shots posted by such people, but you would just be proving my point of why so many are leaving this forum.
I’ll still check in from time to time, read the threads that are of worth and post positives, but I think I am done for now arguing with the supporters of woo, pseudoscience, personal fantasies and the more notable blood-letting fantasies of some.
Be seeing you…
Forum officially over.
QUOTE (Gehn+)
Following Sapo's lead, I'm out. I'm sick and tired of these dumb sh!t religious people spamming this place trying to convert everyone to their own beliefs, and the mor0ns with their own poorly - made theories of the universe, and the id!ots who have conspiracy theories for everything under the sun, and those good - for - nothing moderators who do f.uck all for the forum.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
I was hoping such valuable people leaving Physorg was at best a temporary trend and that the moderators would take note, step up and regain control of this forum.
GeneSplicer: I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, that you only used this quote from Gehn to make a GENERIC point and that you weren't specifically referring to either Gehn or Sapo as "valuable people". If not, then Gehn hasn't left this forum, but has recently been posting under the username of Cartman and Sapo, whose "joint" is the launching pad for sock-puppets, still posts here from time to time.
GeneSplicer: I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, that you only used this quote from Gehn to make a GENERIC point and that you weren't specifically referring to either Gehn or Sapo as "valuable people". If not, then Gehn hasn't left this forum, but has recently been posting under the username of Cartman and Sapo, whose "joint" is the launching pad for sock-puppets, still posts here from time to time.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Sad to say, matters have only gotten worse.
The "matters" that you refer to are, IMO, actually made worse because you people waste so much time arguing the same points over and over and over again. Threads started by dad1 and deadbeat immediately come to mind. If/since you recognize that someone posts something that is ridiculously asinine, why not simply address it ONCE and leave it up to intellect of others to draw their own conclusions based upon your argument? Anyhow, whatever you decide to do, even with our vast differences, I've enjoyed our dialogue over the years. I wish you the best.
The "matters" that you refer to are, IMO, actually made worse because you people waste so much time arguing the same points over and over and over again. Threads started by dad1 and deadbeat immediately come to mind. If/since you recognize that someone posts something that is ridiculously asinine, why not simply address it ONCE and leave it up to intellect of others to draw their own conclusions based upon your argument? Anyhow, whatever you decide to do, even with our vast differences, I've enjoyed our dialogue over the years. I wish you the best.
One more observation...
GeneSplicer: I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, that you only used this quote from Gehn to make a GENERIC point and that you weren't specifically referring to either Gehn or Sapo as "valuable people".
Actually, both. Then there is the fact that so many other have bowed out. Quoting Gehn was partly to due to sympathizing with his points.
So Gehn returned and you still have issues with Sapo. Fine. Your rant agianst them still does nothing to change the fact that what Gehn posted was true and still is now.
So Gehn returned and you still have issues with Sapo. Fine. Your rant agianst them still does nothing to change the fact that what Gehn posted was true and still is now.
The "matters" that you refer to are, IMO, actually made worse because you people waste so much time arguing the same points over and over and over again.
Yes, and as pointed out by so many, you stand up to the irrational and lunatic claims of such people. You may not see any need or reason to, but you can only speak for yourself.
As would many other threads or claims that have been challenged here. Yours, for example, also come to mind.
As would many other threads or claims that have been challenged here. Yours, for example, also come to mind.
If/since you recognize that someone posts something that is ridiculously asinine, why not simply address it ONCE and leave it up to intellect of others to draw their own conclusions based upon your argument?
Because in many threads, the claims change or the proofs offered are misconstrued. And then again, you do not let such unsubstantiated claim of magic, superstition and woo go unchallenged unless of course you support it.
Ditto, for the most part.
Ditto, for the most part.
Quite frankly, "the moderators" around here eerily remind me of "the ministers" that I've encountered in church settings over the years. In the case of "the ministers", they merely "used God", without any real regard for Him, as a means to MAKE MONEY. Here, it seems that "the moderators/administrators" merely "use physics", without any real regard for it, as a means to MAKE MONEY. If not, why are they so silent and why do they allow all of the spam, sock-puppets, etc., etc.? Take this forum for what it is...a joke, albeit not a funny one. Take care.
I don’t know if they do not care or are simply overworked and overwhelmed. In any regard, I doubt I will be the last one to leave or at the very least stop seeking real debate and exchange here.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
I was hoping such valuable people leaving Physorg was at best a temporary trend and that the moderators would take note, step up and regain control of this forum.
Quite frankly, "the moderators" around here eerily remind me of "the ministers" that I've encountered in church settings over the years. In the case of "the ministers", they merely "used God", without any real regard for Him, as a means to MAKE MONEY. Here, it seems that "the moderators/administrators" merely "use physics", without any real regard for it, as a means to MAKE MONEY. If not, why are they so silent and why do they allow all of the spam, sock-puppets, etc., etc.? Take this forum for what it is...a joke, albeit not a funny one. Take care.
Quite frankly, "the moderators" around here eerily remind me of "the ministers" that I've encountered in church settings over the years. In the case of "the ministers", they merely "used God", without any real regard for Him, as a means to MAKE MONEY. Here, it seems that "the moderators/administrators" merely "use physics", without any real regard for it, as a means to MAKE MONEY. If not, why are they so silent and why do they allow all of the spam, sock-puppets, etc., etc.? Take this forum for what it is...a joke, albeit not a funny one. Take care.
QUOTE (NewGuy+)
GeneSplicer: I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong, that you only used this quote from Gehn to make a GENERIC point and that you weren't specifically referring to either Gehn or Sapo as "valuable people".
Actually, both. Then there is the fact that so many other have bowed out. Quoting Gehn was partly to due to sympathizing with his points.
QUOTE
If not, then Gehn hasn't left this forum, but has recently been posting under the username of Cartman and Sapo, whose "joint" is the launching pad for sock-puppets, still posts here from time to time.
So Gehn returned and you still have issues with Sapo. Fine. Your rant agianst them still does nothing to change the fact that what Gehn posted was true and still is now.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| If not, then Gehn hasn't left this forum, but has recently been posting under the username of Cartman and Sapo, whose "joint" is the launching pad for sock-puppets, still posts here from time to time. |
So Gehn returned and you still have issues with Sapo. Fine. Your rant agianst them still does nothing to change the fact that what Gehn posted was true and still is now.
The "matters" that you refer to are, IMO, actually made worse because you people waste so much time arguing the same points over and over and over again.
Yes, and as pointed out by so many, you stand up to the irrational and lunatic claims of such people. You may not see any need or reason to, but you can only speak for yourself.
QUOTE
Threads started by dad1 and deadbeat immediately come to mind.
As would many other threads or claims that have been challenged here. Yours, for example, also come to mind.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Threads started by dad1 and deadbeat immediately come to mind. |
As would many other threads or claims that have been challenged here. Yours, for example, also come to mind.
If/since you recognize that someone posts something that is ridiculously asinine, why not simply address it ONCE and leave it up to intellect of others to draw their own conclusions based upon your argument?
Because in many threads, the claims change or the proofs offered are misconstrued. And then again, you do not let such unsubstantiated claim of magic, superstition and woo go unchallenged unless of course you support it.
QUOTE
Anyhow, whatever you decide to do, even with our vast differences, I've enjoyed our dialogue over the years. I wish you the best.
Ditto, for the most part.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| Anyhow, whatever you decide to do, even with our vast differences, I've enjoyed our dialogue over the years. I wish you the best. |
Ditto, for the most part.
Quite frankly, "the moderators" around here eerily remind me of "the ministers" that I've encountered in church settings over the years. In the case of "the ministers", they merely "used God", without any real regard for Him, as a means to MAKE MONEY. Here, it seems that "the moderators/administrators" merely "use physics", without any real regard for it, as a means to MAKE MONEY. If not, why are they so silent and why do they allow all of the spam, sock-puppets, etc., etc.? Take this forum for what it is...a joke, albeit not a funny one. Take care.
I don’t know if they do not care or are simply overworked and overwhelmed. In any regard, I doubt I will be the last one to leave or at the very least stop seeking real debate and exchange here.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Actually, both. Then there is the fact that so many other have bowed out. Quoting Gehn was partly to due to sympathizing with his points.
GeneSplicer: The "bowing out" was a choice by each and every individual. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with sympathizing with Gehn's points. At the same time, however, Gehn has apparently done something about it, as has Sapo, by starting his own forum. Seemingly, their approach is that if this forum isn't going to be fixed, then a new forum needs to be started for those who are disgusted with this forum's practices. Although I'm no fan of either poster, I do support their actions and give them credit for their efforts.
GeneSplicer: The "bowing out" was a choice by each and every individual. Having said that, I see nothing wrong with sympathizing with Gehn's points. At the same time, however, Gehn has apparently done something about it, as has Sapo, by starting his own forum. Seemingly, their approach is that if this forum isn't going to be fixed, then a new forum needs to be started for those who are disgusted with this forum's practices. Although I'm no fan of either poster, I do support their actions and give them credit for their efforts.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
So Gehn returned and you still have issues with Sapo. Fine. Your rant agianst them still does nothing to change the fact that what Gehn posted was true and still is now.
My main issue with Sapo has been his support of sock-puppets. Having readily admitted that, I still wish him no harm. What "rant" were you referring to? I merely mentioned that both posters still post here periodically. Additionally, although what Gehn posted is true, it is not the only truth. Sock-puppets have done as much damage to this forum as anything else has, IMO.
My main issue with Sapo has been his support of sock-puppets. Having readily admitted that, I still wish him no harm. What "rant" were you referring to? I merely mentioned that both posters still post here periodically. Additionally, although what Gehn posted is true, it is not the only truth. Sock-puppets have done as much damage to this forum as anything else has, IMO.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Yes, and as pointed out by so many, you stand up to the irrational and lunatic claims of such people. You may not see any need or reason to, but you can only speak for yourself.
You're correct...I can only speak for myself, but, hopefully, I can be a positive influence in an area or two. Take dad1, for example. As I recently pointed out, his whole argument is moot because the very Bible that he claims to follow does NOT instruct parents to send their children to government-run schools. Why then bother arguing with him? Just point out that he's a hypocrite from the get-go and then move on. I may as well add this, since you alluded to his "blood-letting fantasies" in an earlier post. Dad1's lust for blood is just another example of his hypocrisy. Using the Bible(dad1's purported "book") as a guide, one could easily recognize that those who truly belonged to God were DEEPLY GRIEVED when they saw coming judgment. In fact, they were depicted as "weeping", "lamenting", "staggering around as drunk men"(due to their overwhelming grief), "in pain, like a woman in travail/labor", etc., etc. The blood-thirst of people like T-cell, tlocity, dad1(and his desire to "mop up") and even Derek1148 is not the least bit indicative of Biblical Christianity. I've pointed that out on a few occasions and...well...if people still want to believe to the contrary, then let them.
You're correct...I can only speak for myself, but, hopefully, I can be a positive influence in an area or two. Take dad1, for example. As I recently pointed out, his whole argument is moot because the very Bible that he claims to follow does NOT instruct parents to send their children to government-run schools. Why then bother arguing with him? Just point out that he's a hypocrite from the get-go and then move on. I may as well add this, since you alluded to his "blood-letting fantasies" in an earlier post. Dad1's lust for blood is just another example of his hypocrisy. Using the Bible(dad1's purported "book") as a guide, one could easily recognize that those who truly belonged to God were DEEPLY GRIEVED when they saw coming judgment. In fact, they were depicted as "weeping", "lamenting", "staggering around as drunk men"(due to their overwhelming grief), "in pain, like a woman in travail/labor", etc., etc. The blood-thirst of people like T-cell, tlocity, dad1(and his desire to "mop up") and even Derek1148 is not the least bit indicative of Biblical Christianity. I've pointed that out on a few occasions and...well...if people still want to believe to the contrary, then let them.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
As would many other threads or claims that have been challenged here. Yours, for example, also come to mind.
As far as "my threads or claims" are concerned, I've been perfectly willing to leave them alone myself after making my pertinent points. Additionally, as I've pointed out repeatedly, I would honestly desire nothing other than "rational skepticism" from any of you in regard to my claims, fully recognizing the "Christianity" that you're all familiar with. At the same time, I recognize the validity of my claims, as do those who have been the recipients of the help that I've been able to provide them THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. That is sufficient enough for me.
As far as "my threads or claims" are concerned, I've been perfectly willing to leave them alone myself after making my pertinent points. Additionally, as I've pointed out repeatedly, I would honestly desire nothing other than "rational skepticism" from any of you in regard to my claims, fully recognizing the "Christianity" that you're all familiar with. At the same time, I recognize the validity of my claims, as do those who have been the recipients of the help that I've been able to provide them THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. That is sufficient enough for me.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Because in many threads, the claims change or the proofs offered are misconstrued. And then again, you do not let such unsubstantiated claim of magic, superstition and woo go unchallenged unless of course you support it.
Regarding the "changing" and "misconstruing", it seems to me that such individuals are primarily dishonest. If such is genuinely the case, then I simply ask you why you would bother to dialogue with dishonest people? Just let them alone...they're forced to live with their own dishonesty 24/7...you're not. As far as "magic" and "superstition" are concerned(I'm not quite sure what you mean by "woo"...), I never support either. Additionally, the fact that I've personally investigated the claims of quite a number of people over the years and repeatedly found them to be false, does NOT automatically invalidate all such claims...especially those that I've validated myself. As usual, you don't seem to allow for HYPOCRITES and CHARLATANS, whereas I do. Ironically, I agree with most of your criticisms against what you call "magic" and "superstition". In fact, I'd go so far as to say that you're a lot more rational and discerning than the vast majority of professing Christians that I've met throughout the years.
My main issue with Sapo has been his support of sock-puppets.
And the reason you were kicked from the Joint was?
Hint: You used the word 'hypocrisy' in the very post I am quoting.
And the reason you were kicked from the Joint was?
Hint: You used the word 'hypocrisy' in the very post I am quoting.
Sapo: What are you laughing at? As we both know, I originally registered at your website under the username of "newguy"...the same username that I regularly use here. At that time, you sent me a PM because I was "hiding" or had chosen the option of my username not appearing when I was online. I responded and told you that I wasn't "hiding", but that I simply didn't want to draw an unwanted crowd. I've readily admitted that I initially registered at your site for one reason and one reason alone...
To help "out" sock-puppets.
Having successfully "outted" a couple of sock-puppets, YOU blew a gasket and banned me from your website. Do I need to dig up the past posts to document that this is so? So, in my original registering, there was absolutely no "hypocrisy" involved, whatsoever. At the same time, having ignored this reality, I assume that you're referring to the second time that I registered at your site under the username of Matt Cooper(however I spelled it). Once again, my only purpose in registering the second time was to help further "out" sock-puppets. Grumpy ought to be aware of this...here is a PM that I sent him some time ago:
That was the entire intent behind my ONE POST as Matt Cooper...to help rid PhysOrg from the sock-puppets that found/find safe haven at your website. If you view that as "hypocrisy", then so be it. I've got a trailer to load. Take care.
P.S. I thought that I'd add that the only reason that you banned me the second time from your website is because I "tipped" one of your posters to the fact that I still had access to your website. It's NOT like you had any discernment of your own to speak of.
Regarding the "changing" and "misconstruing", it seems to me that such individuals are primarily dishonest. If such is genuinely the case, then I simply ask you why you would bother to dialogue with dishonest people? Just let them alone...they're forced to live with their own dishonesty 24/7...you're not. As far as "magic" and "superstition" are concerned(I'm not quite sure what you mean by "woo"...), I never support either. Additionally, the fact that I've personally investigated the claims of quite a number of people over the years and repeatedly found them to be false, does NOT automatically invalidate all such claims...especially those that I've validated myself. As usual, you don't seem to allow for HYPOCRITES and CHARLATANS, whereas I do. Ironically, I agree with most of your criticisms against what you call "magic" and "superstition". In fact, I'd go so far as to say that you're a lot more rational and discerning than the vast majority of professing Christians that I've met throughout the years.
QUOTE (GeneSplicer+)
Ditto, for the most part.
"For the most part"? Well, even though we're diametrically opposed in some areas, I wouldn't mind having you as my neighbour. Heck, I'd probably even shovel your snow in the winter. I'm preparing for a brief business trip. Take care.
P.S. Since I'm aware that you also have your own website, have you ever considered inviting those whom you deem worthy of dialogue to engage you in dialogue there? Just a thought. As I said before, whatever you personally decide to do, I genuinely wish you and yours the best. Stay well.
"For the most part"?
Well, even though we're diametrically opposed in some areas, I wouldn't mind having you as my neighbour. Heck, I'd probably even shovel your snow in the winter. I'm preparing for a brief business trip. Take care.P.S. Since I'm aware that you also have your own website, have you ever considered inviting those whom you deem worthy of dialogue to engage you in dialogue there? Just a thought. As I said before, whatever you personally decide to do, I genuinely wish you and yours the best. Stay well.
QUOTE (newguy+Oct 3 2008, 08:11 AM)
My main issue with Sapo has been his support of sock-puppets.
And the reason you were kicked from the Joint was?
Hint: You used the word 'hypocrisy' in the very post I am quoting.
QUOTE (Sapo+)
And the reason you were kicked from the Joint was?
Hint: You used the word 'hypocrisy' in the very post I am quoting.
Sapo: What are you laughing at? As we both know, I originally registered at your website under the username of "newguy"...the same username that I regularly use here. At that time, you sent me a PM because I was "hiding" or had chosen the option of my username not appearing when I was online. I responded and told you that I wasn't "hiding", but that I simply didn't want to draw an unwanted crowd. I've readily admitted that I initially registered at your site for one reason and one reason alone...
To help "out" sock-puppets.
Having successfully "outted" a couple of sock-puppets, YOU blew a gasket and banned me from your website. Do I need to dig up the past posts to document that this is so? So, in my original registering, there was absolutely no "hypocrisy" involved, whatsoever. At the same time, having ignored this reality, I assume that you're referring to the second time that I registered at your site under the username of Matt Cooper(however I spelled it). Once again, my only purpose in registering the second time was to help further "out" sock-puppets. Grumpy ought to be aware of this...here is a PM that I sent him some time ago:
QUOTE
Sent: So much for that idea..., Jun 28 2008, 12:17 PM
Grumpy:
In spite of all of our past "scrapes", I must say that I'm somewhat surprised and disappointed by what I just noticed. My initial desire for this PM was to hopefully "employ your services" in helping to rid this forum of sock puppets and now I'm not sure that this is even possible. I just went over to Sapo's joint to copy and paste a couple of recent posts over there that lead me to believe that "Bringer-of-Light" is yet another sock puppet that was created by some members that post regularly on that site. I was surprised to see your first post when I visited there. I'm not surprised that you would want to post elsewhere...I am surprised, though, that you would choose a place that has infected this particular forum with sock puppet after sock puppet after sock puppet. Back when I was a teenager, I attended a MLB playoff game between the NY Mets and the Cincinnati Reds at Shea Stadium in Flushing, NY. I don't know how familiar you are with baseball, but it was the game after the one in which Pete Rose(Reds) got into a fistfight with a much smaller Bud Harrelson(Mets). I was seated in the left-field bleachers for this game and Pete Rose was the starting left-fielder. The game had to be halted by the umpires because the fans in the stands were not only chanting "ROSE EAT SH*T!" repeatedly throughout the game, but they were also throwing things(bottles, etc.) at Rose throughout the game. The game was in danger of being forfeited UNTIL several players from the NY Mets walked out towards the bleachers and pleaded with the fans to stop their nonsense. I was hoping that something similar to this might take place here at physorg. Although you and I disagree on a range of topics(we agree on others), the fact remains that you are one of the most respected people on this forum. Assuming(?) that you find all of these sock puppets as distasteful as I do(they certainly don't do your side any good...they are the antithesis of "scientific integrity"), I was hoping that you and some other respected posters(I think I've been disqualified...most people here can't stand me) might "take a walk out to the bleachers" and admonish these idiots to take their foolishness elsewhere. Whether you're aware of it or not, these sock puppet accounts are all coming from Sapo's joint. I've already documented how some of them are the "creation" of fivedoughnut, Alpha and BigDumbWeirdo(a moderator there). More importantly, they certainly have "the blessing" of Sapo, the site's founder. Is this the type of company that you desire to keep? If so, you're certainly entitled to do so, but I had hoped that you had more integrity than that. If you're going to do battle with "cretinists", as some of you like to call them, then at least do battle with real ones...not sock puppets. Anyhow, as usual, those are my heartfelt words...hopefully, you can at least appreciate my straightforwardness and honesty. Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best. Take care.
newguy
Grumpy:
In spite of all of our past "scrapes", I must say that I'm somewhat surprised and disappointed by what I just noticed. My initial desire for this PM was to hopefully "employ your services" in helping to rid this forum of sock puppets and now I'm not sure that this is even possible. I just went over to Sapo's joint to copy and paste a couple of recent posts over there that lead me to believe that "Bringer-of-Light" is yet another sock puppet that was created by some members that post regularly on that site. I was surprised to see your first post when I visited there. I'm not surprised that you would want to post elsewhere...I am surprised, though, that you would choose a place that has infected this particular forum with sock puppet after sock puppet after sock puppet. Back when I was a teenager, I attended a MLB playoff game between the NY Mets and the Cincinnati Reds at Shea Stadium in Flushing, NY. I don't know how familiar you are with baseball, but it was the game after the one in which Pete Rose(Reds) got into a fistfight with a much smaller Bud Harrelson(Mets). I was seated in the left-field bleachers for this game and Pete Rose was the starting left-fielder. The game had to be halted by the umpires because the fans in the stands were not only chanting "ROSE EAT SH*T!" repeatedly throughout the game, but they were also throwing things(bottles, etc.) at Rose throughout the game. The game was in danger of being forfeited UNTIL several players from the NY Mets walked out towards the bleachers and pleaded with the fans to stop their nonsense. I was hoping that something similar to this might take place here at physorg. Although you and I disagree on a range of topics(we agree on others), the fact remains that you are one of the most respected people on this forum. Assuming(?) that you find all of these sock puppets as distasteful as I do(they certainly don't do your side any good...they are the antithesis of "scientific integrity"), I was hoping that you and some other respected posters(I think I've been disqualified...most people here can't stand me) might "take a walk out to the bleachers" and admonish these idiots to take their foolishness elsewhere. Whether you're aware of it or not, these sock puppet accounts are all coming from Sapo's joint. I've already documented how some of them are the "creation" of fivedoughnut, Alpha and BigDumbWeirdo(a moderator there). More importantly, they certainly have "the blessing" of Sapo, the site's founder. Is this the type of company that you desire to keep? If so, you're certainly entitled to do so, but I had hoped that you had more integrity than that. If you're going to do battle with "cretinists", as some of you like to call them, then at least do battle with real ones...not sock puppets. Anyhow, as usual, those are my heartfelt words...hopefully, you can at least appreciate my straightforwardness and honesty. Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best. Take care.
newguy
That was the entire intent behind my ONE POST as Matt Cooper...to help rid PhysOrg from the sock-puppets that found/find safe haven at your website. If you view that as "hypocrisy", then so be it. I've got a trailer to load. Take care.
P.S. I thought that I'd add that the only reason that you banned me the second time from your website is because I "tipped" one of your posters to the fact that I still had access to your website. It's NOT like you had any discernment of your own to speak of.
QUOTE (NewGuy+)
"For the most part"? Well, even though we're diametrically opposed in some areas, I wouldn't mind having you as my neighbour. Heck, I'd probably even shovel your snow in the winter. I'm preparing for a brief business trip. Take care.
As I have stated before, I think we only disagree when it comes to religion and some related subjects. Granted, that is one large subject to disagree about.
I have run my own forums before including on my website years ago, but running and administering any forum is time consuming as I’m sure Sapo can attest to.
Besides, any time I have left over after work and family is put into my podcasts.
The only other place I tend to debate recently is on PalTalk, a voice over IP service.
I have run my own forums before including on my website years ago, but running and administering any forum is time consuming as I’m sure Sapo can attest to.
Besides, any time I have left over after work and family is put into my podcasts.
The only other place I tend to debate recently is on PalTalk, a voice over IP service.
As I said before, whatever you personally decide to do, I genuinely wish you and yours the best. Stay well.
For you and your family as well.
Well, even though we're diametrically opposed in some areas, I wouldn't mind having you as my neighbour. Heck, I'd probably even shovel your snow in the winter. I'm preparing for a brief business trip. Take care. As I have stated before, I think we only disagree when it comes to religion and some related subjects. Granted, that is one large subject to disagree about. QUOTE
P.S. Since I'm aware that you also have your own website, have you ever considered inviting those whom you deem worthy of dialogue to engage you in dialogue there? Just a thought.
I have run my own forums before including on my website years ago, but running and administering any forum is time consuming as I’m sure Sapo can attest to.
Besides, any time I have left over after work and family is put into my podcasts.
The only other place I tend to debate recently is on PalTalk, a voice over IP service.
QUOTE (->
| QUOTE |
| P.S. Since I'm aware that you also have your own website, have you ever considered inviting those whom you deem worthy of dialogue to engage you in dialogue there? Just a thought. |
I have run my own forums before including on my website years ago, but running and administering any forum is time consuming as I’m sure Sapo can attest to.
Besides, any time I have left over after work and family is put into my podcasts.
The only other place I tend to debate recently is on PalTalk, a voice over IP service.
As I said before, whatever you personally decide to do, I genuinely wish you and yours the best. Stay well.
For you and your family as well.
QUOTE (BigFairy+Oct 3 2008, 01:48 PM)
[00:16] <+aK^LandaXe> lol
01[00:16] <+[AFO]Angeldust> gg for good sports
[00:16] <+pLaztiK> bob where are you on rs
[00:16] <+Princess-> he was telling me juggz tried recruiting
[00:17] <+BoB> ummm
I see you're back to your crap ladened bloated posts again. Until the moderators figure out how to flush this toilet, it looks like your destined to be the biggest turd left in the bowl.
Anyone got a plunger?
01[00:16] <+[AFO]Angeldust> gg for good sports
[00:16] <+pLaztiK> bob where are you on rs
[00:16] <+Princess-> he was telling me juggz tried recruiting
[00:17] <+BoB> ummm
I see you're back to your crap ladened bloated posts again. Until the moderators figure out how to flush this toilet, it looks like your destined to be the biggest turd left in the bowl.
Anyone got a plunger?
QUOTE (Capracus+Oct 3 2008, 08:39 PM)
I see you're back to your crap ladened bloated posts again. Until the moderators figure out how to flush this toilet, it looks like your destined to be the biggest turd left in the bowl.
Anyone got a plunger?
It looks like someone finally flushed the toilet.
Thank you moderators.
Anyone got a plunger?
It looks like someone finally flushed the toilet.
Thank you moderators.
I one the things I enjoyed about this place was reading Alpha's responses. Seems that even he has decided to call it a day. I suggest many of us follow, this place is a joke.
QUOTE (theory_of_nj+Oct 6 2008, 06:31 PM)
I one the things I enjoyed about this place was reading Alpha's responses. Seems that even he has decided to call it a day. I suggest many of us follow, this place is a joke.
Alpha in his original guise was hilarious. Every time I go into his posting history I get a headache from laughing so hard.
I seriously suggest going through all of these.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry135166
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...20&#entry136940
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry137107
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10745&hl=
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry146516
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry151005
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry151908
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry153942
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry154263
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry155950
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry156200
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry173173
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry174340
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...65&#entry175091
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...80&#entry175579
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175666
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175705
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...95&#entry180660
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...50&#entry187914
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry194402
Alpha in his original guise was hilarious. Every time I go into his posting history I get a headache from laughing so hard.
I seriously suggest going through all of these.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry135166
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...20&#entry136940
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry137107
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10745&hl=
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry146516
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry151005
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry151908
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry153942
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry154263
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry155950
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry156200
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry173173
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry174340
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...65&#entry175091
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...80&#entry175579
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175666
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175705
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...95&#entry180660
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...50&#entry187914
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry194402
The fucktardis (wiki)
Seen from the inside the fucktardis contains all wisdom.
Seen from the outside the fucktardis contains fucktards.
Seen from the inside the fucktardis contains all wisdom.
Seen from the outside the fucktardis contains fucktards.
QUOTE (Confused2+Oct 6 2008, 10:29 PM)
The fucktardis (wiki)
Seen from the inside the fucktardis contains all wisdom.
Seen from the outside the fucktardis contains fucktards.
Ey? What the hell are you gibbering about?
Seen from the inside the fucktardis contains all wisdom.
Seen from the outside the fucktardis contains fucktards.
Ey? What the hell are you gibbering about?
.
Hehehe...good one, Confused2! hehehe!
Naturally, the f'tards IN the f'tardis looking OUT have no idea what it is that we on the OUTSIDE looking IN are observing about the f'tardis denizens UNthinkingly writhing and flailing about within the f'tardis TIMELESS INTELLECTUAL STRAIGHTJACKET they have made for themselves. hehehe.
Hi all, just dropped in to see if my sub-forum needed cleaning out again; and whaddayaknow!....no need today!
Great work, mods!
Everyone.....Back in a week to post my stageII Q&A project session input! Until then, I will just visit briefly to PASSIVELY see what is going on now that the REAL f'tards (you know who you are) have been put in their place!
Gotta go now.....Cheers all!
RC.
.
Hehehe...good one, Confused2! hehehe!
Naturally, the f'tards IN the f'tardis looking OUT have no idea what it is that we on the OUTSIDE looking IN are observing about the f'tardis denizens UNthinkingly writhing and flailing about within the f'tardis TIMELESS INTELLECTUAL STRAIGHTJACKET they have made for themselves. hehehe.
Hi all, just dropped in to see if my sub-forum needed cleaning out again; and whaddayaknow!....no need today!
Great work, mods!
Everyone.....Back in a week to post my stageII Q&A project session input! Until then, I will just visit briefly to PASSIVELY see what is going on now that the REAL f'tards (you know who you are) have been put in their place!
Gotta go now.....Cheers all!
RC.
.
QUOTE (TheDoc+Oct 6 2008, 08:47 PM)
Alpha in his original guise was hilarious. Every time I go into his posting history I get a headache from laughing so hard.
I seriously suggest going through all of these.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry135166
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...20&#entry136940
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry137107
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10745&hl=
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry146516
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry151005
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry151908
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry153942
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry154263
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry155950
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry156200
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry173173
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry174340
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...65&#entry175091
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...80&#entry175579
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175666
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175705
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...95&#entry180660
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...50&#entry187914
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry194402
I thought Dallas was hilarious.
I seriously suggest going through all of these.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry135166
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...20&#entry136940
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry137107
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10745&hl=
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry146516
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry151005
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry151908
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry153942
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry154263
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry155950
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...35&#entry156200
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry173173
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...15&#entry174340
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...65&#entry175091
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...80&#entry175579
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175666
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...30&#entry175705
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...95&#entry180660
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...50&#entry187914
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtop...=0&#entry194402
I thought Dallas was hilarious.
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