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Trippy
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 10:21 AM)
Actually, it was much too typical.

Asterix, it doesn't take a protozoa to know you couldn't get much lower.

And as for you Trippy, yeah I feel for you and your everyday activities. But here at Physorg you are anything but impartial. You are quite comfortable watchine the odd individual get it in the groin. in fact you play one or two cards to contribute yourself. Perhaps it adds a nice release for you, and your everyday stresses. but from one individual you twot-faces have decided to target, you can take a running jump busters.

And, I don't believe for a second you ever send these trolls a "please tone it down" PM Trippy. Their actions are fine with you.

Hypocrites

Bullshit you two faced liar.
Boneidol
QUOTE (Trippy+Aug 30 2008, 11:01 PM)
Bullshit you two faced liar.

Oh, and don't forget "hypocrite" Trippy.
Boneidol
Please use the word "hypocrtie" Trippy. I lurve it when you pull that one out.
Please , in nice big capital letters, max size. I know if you don't, ol Asterix won't be able to resist. or maybe theCod will jump in and do it. Please guys, I need my masachism fix before I go to bed.
Boneidol
RealityCheck just hit the jackpot with one of his statements to that Uva guy. This is what it all boils down to for me, and why I didn't for the life of me ever expect a science forum to be like this one.


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And just HOW DID YOU REPLY? You avoid, you turn the discussion into some 'personal' matter and do NOT PRODUCE ANY ARGUMENT/REFERENCES TO REBUT at all.

Hypocrite.



Trying to bring someone down is cheap. Where are your arguments chaps?
Let's hear them BM. Talk about the Mode Box data with me. Follow the idea behind the putting accross of a process that is evident through many different approaches. Screw your "triviality" comment. Show you even know what the actual investigation is supposed to be about.

How about you Matt? Going to quit the superficial "that ain't a melodic minor" and actually talk like an adult about the in depth study? Or are we going to get the usual "dishonest liar" crap?

So you get a kick out of picking on others. Big boys indeed.

Please someone assure me science isn't really like this.

Trippy
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 11:30 AM)
RealityCheck just hit the jackpot with one of his statements to that Uva guy. This is what it all boils down to for me, and why I didn't for the life of me ever expect a science forum to be like this one.

Trying to bring someone down is cheap. Where are your arguments chaps?
Let's hear them BM. Talk about the Mode Box data with me. Follow the idea behind the putting accross of a process that is evident through many different approaches. Screw your "triviality" comment. Show you even know what the actual investigation is supposed to be about.

How about you Matt? Going to quit the superficial "that ain't a melodic minor" and actually talk like an adult about the in depth study? Or are we going to get the usual "dishonest liar" crap?

So you get a kick out of picking on others. Big boys indeed.

Please someone assure me science isn't really like this.

Ubavontuba being a cretinistic panic mongering lying hypocritical idiotic crank...

You know, precisely the kind of person that you've spent the last thousand odd posts of drivel defending.

Contradict yourself much?
Boneidol
QUOTE (Trippy+Aug 30 2008, 11:48 PM)
Ubavontuba being a cretinistic panic mongering lying hypocritical idiotic crank...

You know, precisely the kind of person that you've spent the last thousand odd posts of drivel defending.

Contradict yourself much?

What are you going on about you cretinous sperm dripping? I'm not defending the Uba guy. I'm defending the right way to do science, and highlighting your brain cell challenged empty space between your ears.

get in your high chairs and suck on your big toes kiddies. I'll no doubt see you in a few months.
Trippy
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 01:24 PM)
What are you going on about you cretinous sperm dripping? I'm not defending the Uba guy. I'm defending the right way to do science, and highlighting your brain cell challenged empty space between your ears.

get in your high chairs and suck on your big toes kiddies. I'll no doubt see you in a few months.

Idiot.
occidental
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 30 2008, 04:55 PM)
Yeah, as you know most other species don't seem to be able to influence the world beyond a certain degree. Other species haven't developed technology that can harm the world as much as we can. We seem to be the specie that has come to understand aspects of the universe and of evolution itself.
Totally agree. Disposable plastic cups always seem like such a waste. But I think we have also created some amazing technology that has been used in a lot of good ways.


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It does seem to me that the world is showing signs of a collective raising of consciousness, and some of the qualities that are showing signs of affecting whole groups is compassion. Whether that is coinciding with a larger brain, I don't know. But it may imply that we do have a definate choice to make with our added brain power.
I would agree that there are some major global changes happening in our lifetime, right before our eyes. I also think you are right about there being responsibilities that go along with our added brain power. (ie-"ignorance of the law is no excuse")

Its interesting to me how much communication, from books to newspapers to the internet, can foster compassion and understanding of our differences.
Trippy
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 01:24 PM)
What are you going on about you cretinous sperm dripping? I'm not defending the Uba guy. I'm defending the right way to do science, and highlighting your brain cell challenged empty space between your ears.

get in your high chairs and suck on your big toes kiddies. I'll no doubt see you in a few months.

Oh and for the record?

I didn't say that you were defending Ubavontuba, I stated that he fell into the category of people that you have been defending, you know, the under-dog crackpots that 'unfaily' and 'unjustly' come in for criticism from the brain dead mainstream zombies.
ASTERIX*
QUOTE (occidental+Aug 31 2008, 01:58 AM)
Disposable plastic cups always seem like such a waste.

Let's not bring Lui's parents into this discussion.
ASTERIX*
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 30 2008, 11:14 PM)
I need my masachism fix before I go to bed.

If you mean masochistic sexual pleasure derived from self humiliation; well, can't you just hang your willy out the bedroom window? - the neighbours will no-doubt furnish you with all required derision to sate your most fucked-up condition.


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bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 12:30 AM)
RealityCheck just hit the jackpot with one of his statements to that Uva guy. This is what it all boils down to for me, and why I didn't for the life of me ever expect a science forum to be like this one.

Trying to bring someone down is cheap. Where are your arguments chaps?
Let's hear them BM. Talk about the Mode Box data with me. Follow the idea behind the putting accross of a process that is evident through many different approaches. Screw your "triviality" comment. Show you even know what the actual investigation is supposed to be about.

You don't understand the scientific method, do you?

Trying to find problems with someone's 'theory' is allowed. It's not 'cheap'. Just accepting it at face value would be cheap and degrading to science, yet this is exactly what you would like.

And you don't need arguments to disprove something. If there is no argument in the proposal, it disproves itself. Like your book. It doesn't actually say anything, so there is nothing to argue against. See Farsight's essay for another example.

Screw my 'triviality' comment? Good science, that. So, you don't like what someone has to say, so you ignore it? Read this.
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Aug 31 2008, 11:19 AM)
You don't understand the scientific method, do you?

Trying to find problems with someone's 'theory' is allowed. It's not 'cheap'. Just accepting it at face value would be cheap and degrading to science, yet this is exactly what you would like.

And you don't need arguments to disprove something. If there is no argument in the proposal, it disproves itself. Like your book. It doesn't actually say anything, so there is nothing to argue against. See Farsight's essay for another example.

Screw my 'triviality' comment? Good science, that. So, you don't like what someone has to say, so you ignore it? Read this.

I'll get back to you when you send in an informed critique of a Mode Box, as you seem to have an opinion. I think it's just as valid to test the opinions of others.
Confused2
QUOTE (Boneidol+)
I didn't for the life of me ever expect a science forum to be like this one.


So, you don't like what someone has to say, so you ignore it? Read this

excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 30 2008, 08:24 PM)
I'm defending the right way to do science, and highlighting your brain cell challenged empty space between your ears.

When are you going to start?
Boneidol
QUOTE (Confused2+Aug 31 2008, 01:04 PM)
QUOTE (Boneidol+)
I didn't for the life of me ever expect a science forum to be like this one.


So, you don't like what someone has to say, so you ignore it? Read this

Father Ted was a great show! I'd hoped too much from physorg obviously. Now I
know it is a home mostly for the socially inept.

excaza - I started before you were born mate.

Grumpy
Lui Di Martino, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze, marley, AzzAzA, Bonehead


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I'm aware of one small seed that creates everything. The seed comes out of a Merkaba, married masculine/feminine state and is at the heart of all the variation of life that exists. The Vedic Square is the seed that creates everything. And obviously you have every right to consider that as a bit of BS.:-) I'm hoping to show that what I just said is an inescapable conclusion. And my data is based on a little more than "you just discovered the Phrygian Mode". I'm offering 360 pages free of charge, based on previously unobserved data in the hope that it proves benficial to scientists and the spiritual too. Not being some academic sort I have endured the dis-interest of many, so I figure it's right to just come out and start putting the facts about a mirror theory across. I have a Fibonacci table, for example, that includes the mirror side. This has not been observed before. Across the 45-degree angle of the grid , as always, is the Merkaba symbol flowing through it. The same Merkaba that flows across the major scale mode box mirror grid, or the Vedic Square grid. The axis of perfect symmetry is always at 4.5. The same axis that unites the Mayan calendar at its very center. because 4.5 acts as a swap-over point between mirror side and non-mirror side, this 4.5 axis at the center of the Mayana calendar indicates that the calendar will swap-over to the mirror side. This is also accompanied by a higher octave. I have written out the mirror Mayan calendar and so it will be a represention of mirror time, and the twop clanedars meet up before swapping over. They say 2012 is the end of one calendar. 2011 is the end of the mirror Mayan calendar. Does that mean the neutral 4.5 axis is exposed for a whole year? This marriage point that will be theoretically evident, will it be an opportunity to understand one's own married state, masculine/feminine united? Because this Merkaba symbol also flows through the physical body.


New age pseudo-scientific BABBLE!!!


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I'm aware of one small seed that creates everything. The seed comes out of a Merkaba, married masculine/feminine state and is at the heart of all the variation of life that exists. The Vedic Square is the seed that creates everything. And obviously you have every right to consider that as a bit of BS.:-) I'm hoping to show that what I just said is an inescapable conclusion. And my data is based on a little more than "you just discovered the Phrygian Mode". I'm offering 360 pages free of charge, based on previously unobserved data in the hope that it proves benficial to scientists and the spiritual too. Not being some academic sort I have endured the dis-interest of many, so I figure it's right to just come out and start putting the facts about a mirror theory across. I have a Fibonacci table, for example, that includes the mirror side. This has not been observed before. Across the 45-degree angle of the grid , as always, is the Merkaba symbol flowing through it. The same Merkaba that flows across the major scale mode box mirror grid, or the Vedic Square grid. The axis of perfect symmetry is always at 4.5. The same axis that unites the Mayan calendar at its very center. because 4.5 acts as a swap-over point between mirror side and non-mirror side, this 4.5 axis at the center of the Mayana calendar indicates that the calendar will swap-over to the mirror side. This is also accompanied by a higher octave. I have written out the mirror Mayan calendar and so it will be a represention of mirror time, and the twop clanedars meet up before swapping over. They say 2012 is the end of one calendar. 2011 is the end of the mirror Mayan calendar. Does that mean the neutral 4.5 axis is exposed for a whole year? This marriage point that will be theoretically evident, will it be an opportunity to understand one's own married state, masculine/feminine united? Because this Merkaba symbol also flows through the physical body.


New age pseudo-scientific BABBLE!!!


The combined principles of modern biology, physics, and chemistry are rising in quantum leaps to keep pace with the ancient knowledge and wisdom of our human ancestry. With the rise of technology it has become possible to define in understandable terms that which previously had no explanation - the dualistic human process of inner and outer growth which affects not only humans and their world in third dimensional existence and beyond, but all life throughout the quantum universes.

Once the bridge between science and philosophy has been made complete, we will begin to see that there has never been a true discrepancy. That bridge is consciousness. The hotly debated scientific versus philosophical solution to mankind’s quest concerning human nature and the gods becomes a moot point. It will be found that the scientist and the philosopher speak of the same phenomena, yet in similar, but different languages. The scientific speaks the language of exoteric geometry relating to a physical, tangible realm.

The philosopher speaks the language of esoteric geometry relating to an ethereal realm. It will also become obvious, that in all fairness to ancient wisdom and it’s misunderstood symbology, it has maintained sound and immutable philosophical and scientific principles and knowledge. However, this has been contained solely within the language of various philosophical systems and most often sometimes secretively and intentionally so in order to preserve integrity.

There are many paths leading to Truth. The path of consciousness according to mystics is an innate reality for us and the key to the mysteries of God and the universe. It is considered by mystics the closest source of energy, harmony, and knowledge of Self and God. Therefore, they have resolved throughout the ages to uphold that consciousness cannot be measured by scientific means, but also cannot be discredited by it, because it does not exist purely in the temporal realm.

The path of the scientist, who focuses on the external realms and strives to explain the world through measures in space and time, still is forced to follow the laws of cause and effect, or action versus reaction - the same laws upheld by the philosophers. Thereby, followers of each method end up on the same path, for one cannot be understood nor explained in an acceptable, coherent manner without the other. "Nature is a great open book in which everything can be found, if we learn to draw from it the inspiration which it has given to thinkers of all ages. If we learn her language, nature will reveal to us all the laws of life and the universe."

It is within the science of human biology and the wisdom of human philosophy wherein lies our immediate concern. Both the biological and the spiritual processes of human evolution are natural and inevitable. These will occur with or without our conscious will being focused toward that cause. This is referred to as action through inaction, because the entire universe is an infinitely moving, changing, living force.

Even if we take no conscious action to understand or keep pace with that force, we are contained within it and thereby totally affected by it as separate units and as a whole. There is no way to ignore it and it is this force that drives the unconscious to become aware of itSELF - and to seek the counterbalance of consciousness and enlightenment -The Union and Reunion of Opposites. In one sense, this is UNION, because we have never really as humans possessed the SELF, and in another sense it is REUNION, or redemption, because we are getting back the SELF that belongs to us.

The Source of our being is sound. Transmitted sound oscillates creating quantum particle waves (frequencies) measurable in cycles per second (hertz units). The resonating particle waves constitute the various dimensional realms and the oscillation rate determines how the waves are banded together within a dimension. Various rates of frequency actually determine the density of sound and as it slows and gains distance/separation from its originating point it both expands and moves through the formation of light, the color spectrum, and finally spirals downward into matter, composed of atoms.

The atom is spherical with electrons orbiting the nucleus. Through magnetic force, the positive particles within the nucleus bonded with an equal number of negative particles outside the nucleus create the neutrality of the atom. Atoms cluster and grow in harmonic sequence according to direct oscillation from the Source. As the cluster becomes larger and more dense, the orbit of the atoms is reduced in speed and the matter becomes even more dense. The atom resonates forth and back between two dimensions at such a high rate that it creates its own dual, null resonance wave (similar opposite polarities) which is the balance of the forces of inertia and gravity.

A balance holds opposing forces, bound
But separate. Herein harmony is found,
The child of Strife and Love. The keen-edged blade
Divides accurately, truth with wisdom weighed.
By balanced deeds the cosmic mind is crowned.
Versus de Arcanis Majoribus

This null resonance wave is known in modern physics as the electromagnetic "zero point" and is the center of the electron and the time reversed positron. According to the conclusions of some contemporary physicists, mass and gravity are not real, but assumed, and gravity is a fluctuation force produced when atoms react within a vacuum of energy. Gravity determines space and time, and when the gravitational force is reduced, the space/time continuum is transcended. Thus, contained within matter itSELF is a vacuum - a quantum wave of calm inner space that has its own resonance and energy and esoterically speaking, is the place of union with the force known as God. This vacuum has no distance and no time and may well be considered the realm or dimension of angels. It may also be considered the realm of consciousness wherein the past, present, and future are seen in the same light.



Once the atom gains high density and has thereby altered its ability to produce a balanced null resonance wave, it becomes less capable of receiving direct oscillation, or impetus from the Source, and is thereby considered a resistor. This is exemplified in the basic foundations of electricity, as when the electron is shielded by a resistor the movement of electrons in the energy field is slowed. In this situation, the atom then flounders, spiraling downward toward the more dense, physical realms. On the other hand, it if spins too fast and loses too much density, or becomes too conductive, it also loses the delicate balance that affords the null resonance wave. It then becomes ethereal and spiraling upward, detaches from the physical realms. In this condition it remains an energy, but one that science has not defined. In relationship to the rise to higher consciousness, this upward ethereal ascension may seem desirable.

However, while many esoteric systems teach ascension, if this process occurs prematurely and without all the faculties having been fully prepared, it can result in ill effects in the improperly balanced/aligned atomic mass, or even cause combustion. For this reason it appears critical to balance the atomic structure of both the inner body of light and the outer body of flesh in order to keep the channels clear to the Source. In other words, our immediate goal should be balance, or The Union and Reunion of Opposites. When the opposite polarities are balanced, only then can one ascend.

Another aspect of atomic biology is the double helix structure of DNA, symbolized in medicine and philosophy by the caduceus (two serpents entwined on a staff). The naturally alchemized elements in the body produce a connective, magnetic field around the double helix and this field may serve as a conductive path or channel for higher forces (literally a physical, conductive gateway between the inner light body and the physical body).

The structure of both the atom and the DNA and their function in human life is not only the critical substance of biological and physical science, but also of philosophy and religion. An understanding of how they interrelate with the higher life forces - and the Source - points one toward the pathway of The Union and Reunion of Opposites.


In philosophical terms, The Union and Reunion of Opposites is described as the integration and unification of the conscious and the unconscious. This is symbolized in every conceivable pair of opposites (i.e. God/Satan, Sun/Moon, light/dark, male/female, fire/water, active/passive, life/ death, etc.) The harmonizing of the functions of consciousness brings into balance thinking, sensing, feeling, and intuition.


These are symbolized in the four alchemical elements of fire, air, earth, and water. At the same time these four functions are being brought into harmony, the fully integrated consciousness must be unified with its polar opposite - unconsciousness. The strife between the opposites creates the rotation (oscillation) of the elements and the task of the SELF is to harmonize these elements in order to maintain a balanced rotation (the same referred to as the null resonance wave produced by polarization of the atom). Such is the task of the alchemical philosopher.


WOOO! WOOO! Here comes the train!!! (The Crazy Train, that is).

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Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Aug 31 2008, 02:04 PM)





New age pseudo-scientific BABBLE!!!




WOOO! WOOO! Here comes the train!!! (The Crazy Train, that is).

Grumpy cool.gif

You need to go see a doctor about what you're hearing grumps.

I got a mate over at the moment, who wonders what on earth I'm doing talking to idiots like yourself. Good question.
TheDoc
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 03:06 PM)
I got a mate over at the moment, who wonders what on earth I'm doing talking to idiots like yourself.

I've been wondering that, too.
occidental
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 30 2008, 04:55 PM)
It does seem to me that the world is showing signs of a collective raising of consciousness,

You know, I was thinking about what you said there, and about defining consciousness, and I got to wondering about computers becoming "conscious". How would we know?
Raphie Frank
QUOTE (occidental+Aug 31 2008, 10:50 PM)
You know, I was thinking about what you said there, and about defining consciousness, and I got to wondering about computers becoming "conscious".  How would we know?

Occidental, there's a great book you might want to check out, "Consciousness Explained" by Daniel Dennett. He delves into that very question. For me, personally, the book has been very influential in my thinking. Richard Dawkins, also, I believe has also been very influenced by him, at least judging by the number of citations he gave Dennett in his book "Unweaving the Rainbow," also well worth a read.

Daniel Dennett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett

Richard Dawkins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins

Best,
Raphie

P.S. If nothing else Dennett gave me the tagline I have used for years on emails. "Never mistake a failure of imagination for an insight into necessity." He used the line (perhaps not 100% verbatim) in reference to the very question you are bringing up. Best, RF

P.P.S. By the way, OC, if the computer started calling you names out of the blue, and telling you to go screw yourself or something along those lines (and it was programmed not to) this, of course, might be a pretty good indicator that something or the other had jumped across some invisible silicon border inside .... :-)
Boneidol
QUOTE (occidental+Aug 31 2008, 10:50 PM)
You know, I was thinking about what you said there, and about defining consciousness, and I got to wondering about computers becoming "conscious". How would we know?

We'd have to wait and see. We even question the idea of free will nowadays, so perhaps that won't be a definitive answer. I also entertain the idea that consciousness is already in the make-up of all matter and energy, as potential.
There probably is more than one way to reach consciousness for each particular thing. We've seen it happen through evolution. Computers are a different type of evolution that has been unleashed by us in some ways. Who knows where it will lead, and when the vital moment happens that it becomes conscious.

But we already have the conscious awareness to create more fairness and justice in the world. It just takes effort. We don't have to wait. Facing the sacred cows of society has been well under way for many years.
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Aug 31 2008, 01:57 PM)
I'll get back to you when you send in an informed critique of a Mode Box, as you seem to have an opinion. I think it's just as valid to test the opinions of others.

And I'll say again; I don't know anything about music so I won't comment on anything to do with it. That is the same level of integrity I expect from others and you refuse to show it when you try to discuss trivial mathematical results and declare that your 'theory' will help string theory.

Why do you keep trying to discuss something with me that I have admitted no knowledge of? Is it because if we discuss anything about your book which I know a little about, you'll end up looking silly?
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 1 2008, 08:27 AM)
And I'll say again; I don't know anything about music so I won't comment on anything to do with it. That is the same level of integrity I expect from others and you refuse to show it when you try to discuss trivial mathematical results and declare that your 'theory' will help string theory.

Why do you keep trying to discuss something with me that I have admitted no knowledge of? Is it because if we discuss anything about your book which I know a little about, you'll end up looking silly?

I thought you said your were intelligent? If you can't discuss the large part of a book, quite honestly your opinion is trivial. Hint - you really will need to know something about music theory before you stand any chance.
Grumpy
Lui Di Martino, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze, marley, AzzAzA, Bonehead


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Hint - you really will need to know something about music theory before you stand any chance.


No, he doesn't have to know anything at all about music theory to falsify your garbage. All theories are chains of logic, they are only as strong as the weakest link. Falsify one link and it doesn't matter one bit if all the rest are factual and correct, the theory is busted. For example, just one verified case of Irreducible Complexity would falsify the theory of evolution.


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Hint - you really will need to know something about music theory before you stand any chance.


No, he doesn't have to know anything at all about music theory to falsify your garbage. All theories are chains of logic, they are only as strong as the weakest link. Falsify one link and it doesn't matter one bit if all the rest are factual and correct, the theory is busted. For example, just one verified case of Irreducible Complexity would falsify the theory of evolution.


In philosophical terms, The Union and Reunion of Opposites is described as the integration and unification of the conscious and the unconscious. This is symbolized in every conceivable pair of opposites (i.e. God/Satan, Sun/Moon, light/dark, male/female, fire/water, active/passive, life/ death, etc.) The harmonizing of the functions of consciousness brings into balance thinking, sensing, feeling, and intuition.


These are symbolized in the four alchemical elements of fire, air, earth, and water. At the same time these four functions are being brought into harmony, the fully integrated consciousness must be unified with its polar opposite - unconsciousness. The strife between the opposites creates the rotation (oscillation) of the elements and the task of the SELF is to harmonize these elements in order to maintain a balanced rotation (the same referred to as the null resonance wave produced by polarization of the atom). Such is the task of the alchemical philosopher.


You're BUSTED.

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Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Sep 1 2008, 12:59 PM)
Lui Di Martino, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze, marley, AzzAzA, Bonehead




No, he doesn't have to know anything at all about music theory to falsify your garbage. All theories are chains of logic, they are only as strong as the weakest link. Falsify one link and it doesn't matter one bit if all the rest are factual and correct, the theory is busted. For example, just one verified case of Irreducible Complexity would falsify the theory of evolution.




You're BUSTED.

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You quote other people's books, why not send a link to it?

I'm pretty sure that my information is correct, and I'm also sure I can write a chapter about whether there is a case for making a prediction. So yes, knowing one's subject is pretty important. Or else people like you can block all manner of advances just by spouting off at the nozzle.

You and the religious fundies are just two sides of the same coin. You fail to see the many similarities you share, because you are both blind. The challenge in the 21st century is to break that stuborn blindness. You'll lose, becuase a few well measured puffs are going to expose the emptiness in your stances. It's a long way down for someone like you grumpy.
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 01:37 PM)
I thought you said your were intelligent?

Did I say that? I don't remember saying that. I wouldn't deny that I do thin I'm reasonably intelligent, but I defy you to show where I said that. You are a liar.

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If you can't discuss the large part of a book, quite honestly your opinion is trivial.

So, if there was a sign error that brought all of relativity down, one would have to know about time dilation and the various so-called paradoxes (and their resolutions) for them to be able to spot a sign error?

Your logic is awful. You obviously have some knowledge and intelligence to be able to come up with the numerology you have, but I'm really starting to doubt your ability to put together any kind of cohesive argument.

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If you can't discuss the large part of a book, quite honestly your opinion is trivial.

So, if there was a sign error that brought all of relativity down, one would have to know about time dilation and the various so-called paradoxes (and their resolutions) for them to be able to spot a sign error?

Your logic is awful. You obviously have some knowledge and intelligence to be able to come up with the numerology you have, but I'm really starting to doubt your ability to put together any kind of cohesive argument.

Hint - you really will need to know something about music theory before you stand any chance.

And yet you think you can declare that your book will help string theory without knowing any physics, let alone any string theory?
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 1 2008, 04:01 PM)
Did I say that? I don't remember saying that. I wouldn't deny that I do thin I'm reasonably intelligent, but I defy you to show where I said that. You are a liar.


So, if there was a sign error that brought all of relativity down, one would have to know about time dilation and the various so-called paradoxes (and their resolutions) for them to be able to spot a sign error?

Your logic is awful. You obviously have some knowledge and intelligence to be able to come up with the numerology you have, but I'm really starting to doubt your ability to put together any kind of cohesive argument.


And yet you think you can declare that your book will help string theory without knowing any physics, let alone any string theory?

Bm, you'd never have passed any exams, if you have that is, by not knowing about the material you were studying. Stop twisting the simple things in life around. It is more than easy to live with the fakers around here.

excaza
Why do you constantly dodge questions with bullshit?
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 04:31 PM)
Why do you constantly dodge questions with bullshit?

Yeah, I'd like to ask Matt Pants Weirdo that as well, ya twot.

Yes, the knowledge I've gained from mirroring has given me the right to say it may help string theory, due to the fact that they are promoting the theory of vibrating strings. Unless all stirng theoriests have AN's attitude, I'd say one or two may be interested in that thought. Will put it to the test in due course.
excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 11:39 AM)
Yeah, I'd like to ask Matt Pants Weirdo that as well, ya twot.

Surprise...you did it again, ya twat
excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 11:39 AM)
Yes, the knowledge I've gained from mirroring has given me the right to say it may help string theory, due to the fact that they are promoting the theory of vibrating strings. Unless all stirng theoriests have AN's attitude, I'd say one or two may be interested in that thought. Will put it to the test in due course.

Oooooh, so if it's vibrating you're qualified to talk about it since strings vibrate too? You could be a geologist and predict earthquakes! An oceanographer and study the tides! The options are limitless!
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 04:59 PM)
Surprise...you did it again, ya twat

Why don't you care that Mpants is spreading lies about one of the most used music scales around? Doesn't that fall into your pitiful little agenda around here?
I can see the agenda pretty clearly, every time you type what you do at me.
It might be enough to get your kicks around here, but it is a big world out there isn't it?
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 05:15 PM)
Oooooh, so if it's vibrating you're qualified to talk about it since strings vibrate too? You could be a geologist and predict earthquakes! An oceanographer and study the tides! The options are limitless!

They may be limitless, but the only one you may find hard to include is you having the knowledge I'm referring to and then having the insight that it may be helpful to string theory. When you can gain that particular knowledge, and come to another conclusion, you can arp on the way you are. So, it's a simple intuition. Nothing wrong in passing it by the odd theorist or two.
excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 12:16 PM)
Why don't you care that Mpants is spreading lies about one of the most used music scales around? Doesn't that fall into your pitiful little agenda around here?
I can see the agenda pretty clearly, every time you type what you do at me.
It might be enough to get your kicks around here, but it is a big world out there isn't it?

third time, still not a charm. Still no answer sad.gif

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They may be limitless, but the only one you may find hard to include is you having the knowledge I'm referring to and then having the insight that it may be helpful to string theory. When you can gain that particular knowledge, and come to another conclusion, you can arp on the way you are. So, it's a simple intuition. Nothing wrong in passing it by the odd theorist or two.

I guess we should start getting graduates from Berklee and tossing them into theoretical physics. They've got better music theory knowledge than you, and since music is vibration, and string theory is vibration, they'd fit right in. Simple intuition! I'll call my band's other guitarist and tell him to skeedaddle over to the LHC and provide some input.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 05:30 PM)
third time, still not a charm. Still no answer sad.gif


I guess we should start getting graduates from Berklee and tossing them into theoretical physics. They've got better music theory knowledge than you, and since music is vibration, and string theory is vibration, they'd fit right in. Simple intuition! I'll call my band's other guitarist and tell him to skeedaddle over to the LHC and provide some input.

No brother, life always is and always has been guided by intuition. It may seem absurd to the masses to begin with, but with assured action an intuition can start to gain a meaty skeleton and that's how we come to any real understanding. You should learn to not knock the very reason we keep going forward.

You're playing games excaza? have your parents spent much on your education?
Grumpy
Lui Di Martino, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze, marley, AzzAzA, Bonehead

You're still busted.


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You quote other people's books, why not send a link to it?


I didn't think you needed one, and the less people are exposed to your poo, the better.


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You quote other people's books, why not send a link to it?


I didn't think you needed one, and the less people are exposed to your poo, the better.


I'm pretty sure that my information is correct, and I'm also sure I can write a chapter about whether there is a case for making a prediction. So yes, knowing one's subject is pretty important. Or else people like you can block all manner of advances just by spouting off at the nozzle.


Your information is pure numerology and mystical nonsense, as proven by your own words. I'm sure you could write some more fiction, it just wouldn't be any better than that you have already produced.


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you and the religious fundies are just two sides of the same coin. You fail to see the many similarities you share, because you are both blind. The challenge in the 21st century is to break that stuborn blindness. You'll lose, becuase a few well measured puffs are going to expose the emptiness in your stances. It's a long way down for someone like you grumpy.


The challenge of ANY SCIENTIST at ANY TIME is to do legitimate science, backed by VALID evidence. You have failed on both counts.

You remain busted as the faker you are.

Grumpy cool.gif
Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Sep 1 2008, 05:51 PM)
Lui Di Martino, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze, marley, AzzAzA, Bonehead

You're still busted.




I didn't think you needed one, and the less people are exposed to your poo, the better.




Your information is pure numerology and mystical nonsense, as proven by your own words. I'm sure you could write some more fiction, it just wouldn't be any better than that you have already produced.




The challenge of ANY SCIENTIST at ANY TIME is to do legitimate science, backed by VALID evidence. You have failed on both counts.

You remain busted as the faker you are.

Grumpy cool.gif

Actually I'm going to show you Grumps that you are incorrect in your blind estimation. You have 270 pages of info to look through and try to get different results to the ones shown. Then you can show your disapproval of one of my conclusions.

Anyone can make the kind of slogan rebuttals you seem to think mean something.
I'm sure I could train a parrot to say "numerology, mystical poo" etc etc. But I'm also still pretty sure that a real evaluation and continued insights will be nothing to do with you.

excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 12:39 PM)
No brother, life always is and always has been guided by intuition. It may seem absurd to the masses to begin with, but with assured action an intuition can start to gain a meaty skeleton and that's how we come to any real understanding. You should learn to not knock the very reason we keep going forward.

You're playing games excaza? have your parents spent much on your education?

What's a mirror earthquake like? Why can you not apply any of your "findings" to anything but music games and number tricks?

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I'm sure I could train a parrot to say "numerology, mystical poo" etc etc.

I bet I could get one to say "mirror mirror mirror" too.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 06:06 PM)
What's a mirror earthquake like? Why can you not apply any of your "findings" to anything but music games and number tricks?


I bet I could get one to say "mirror mirror mirror" too.

What's a mirror you I wonder.

It's statements like "music games and number tricks" that will be corrected as time goes on. If you were right, I'd have got a web site together and sold my games and tricks, and made a little name for myself. So pardon me for sticking a middle finger at you.

Mirroring exposes a duality, and finds that a marriage point of unity exists. That fact cannot be undone. It cannot be escaped from, that we are creatures of the same duality. If we were not, then where did we come from? You are claiming something outside the universe put us here?

Get your mind away from music and number games, and think of the concept of whole unit. It is an established fact, you can't change it, only deny it. Neither side of the duality can claim sole reality. It is a whole unit that is the reality. And the properties of that unit show that there is a point of unity, where duality is not applicable.

All our bodies are made up of the cycling elements that are part of a whole unit.
When we are being dual we are not fulfilling all our potential. Inside is the whole unit and point of unity.

I have made a good enough case with the diagrams and explanations offered.
As a layman I may not have satisfied all the scientific requirements. But as a human, there is no reason to lay down that kind of work and listen to you instead.
It would be settling for the opinion of an uninformed mind. Find an informed mind and maybe we can take the matter deeper.


excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 01:28 PM)
It's statements like "music games and number tricks" that will be corrected as time goes on.

So, the answer to my question, is that you have not presented any application. At all. You have not presented anything other than music games and number tricks. Thank you for confirming this.

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If you were right, I'd have got a web site together and sold my games and tricks, and made a little name for myself.

Who would want to buy something they could just do for themselves? Why buy a book telling someone to play a song backwards when you could just...play it backwards. You don't have anything marketable, or anything that isn't trivial (something that has been pointed out to you already)

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If you were right, I'd have got a web site together and sold my games and tricks, and made a little name for myself.

Who would want to buy something they could just do for themselves? Why buy a book telling someone to play a song backwards when you could just...play it backwards. You don't have anything marketable, or anything that isn't trivial (something that has been pointed out to you already)

So pardon me for sticking a middle finger at you.

Pardon me for wanting you to give a real application instead of parlor tricks. Fu*k you too.

Yet you say you can apply it to string theory because it says vibrate. That's hilarious.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 06:37 PM)
So, the answer to my question, is that you have not presented any application. At all. You have not presented anything other than music games and number tricks. Thank you for confirming this.


Who would want to buy something they could just do for themselves? Why buy a book telling someone to play a song backwards when you could just...play it backwards. You don't have anything marketable, or anything that isn't trivial (something that has been pointed out to you already)


Pardon me for wanting you to give a real application instead of parlor tricks. Fu*k you too.

Yet you say you can apply it to string theory because it says vibrate. That's hilarious.

Bog off you narrow-minded little person. There is no advice on playing a song backwards, idiot. At least read something before you come to your "conclusions".
But then , I don't think you care about conclusions. Sitting there behind a PC seems to strip you of any reason to be reasonable.



SteveA2
I've got to thank you for distracting the forum mafia, Boneidol, it seems I've been picking up less flak recently. Nice work! smile.gif
Trippy
QUOTE (SteveA2+Sep 2 2008, 07:17 AM)
I've got to thank you for distracting the forum mafia, Boneidol, it seems I've been picking up less flak recently. Nice work! smile.gif

Still waiting for that reply.
N O M
Hardly surprising you'd agree with boneidol StevenA. You are just his sort of hypocritical tosser. You should form a club.
Boneidol
QUOTE (N O M+Sep 1 2008, 07:31 PM)
Hardly surprising you'd agree with boneidol StevenA. You are just his sort of hypocritical tosser. You should form a club.

Surely forming clubs is for psychotics like you and your FM NOM?
TheDoc
QUOTE (SteveA2+Sep 1 2008, 07:17 PM)
I've got to thank you for distracting the forum mafia, Boneidol, it seems I've been picking up less flak recently.  Nice work! smile.gif

I'm tempted to neg you right about now.

EDIT: In fact, I will, seeing as you gave me one. tongue.gif
excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 01:52 PM)
Bog off you narrow-minded little person.

Wanting an application of your "findings" that isn't useless or trivial is narrow minded? Dang, guess I do fit that bill.

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But then , I don't think you care about conclusions. Sitting there behind a PC seems to strip you of any reason to be reasonable.

You obviously do care, seeing how you keep sitting in front of that PC and coming to this forum instead of bringing your "findings" someplace real.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 08:10 PM)



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Wanting an application of your "findings" that isn't useless or trivial is narrow minded?  Dang, guess I do fit that bill.


Well seeing you don't know the truth of any triviality or uselessness, I'd say you are either relying on what you hear others say, or you just want to paint that image.

Firstly you need to find similar material. I don't mean listen to the SmartyPants's opinions, or Grumpty Dumptys. I mean really find similar insights into what have already proved themselves to being non-trivial as one sided systems. So to open them up and show that actually they are two sided systems with a point of unity, is far from trivial. Coupled with the fact that I've put forward some applications. We apply plenty of things with similar systems, and only use them as we have been brought up to view them.

Do you think any insights into possible mirror universe make-up is trivial? Do you think, when you do understand the data, that teleportation may be another application? I do, because of the data. I know why I say that, because information can be shown to swap either side of the mirror. Information is what everything is about. You think some people might not want to actually have a look into it? They can be helped by some of the ideas on using the data involved. It's what we humans do, think ahead through intuition and then apply experiments. Turns plenty of sci-fi into sci-fact.

You know, I don't know if you are being narrow-minded and negative on purpose, or you are easily influenced by the flow that seems to dominate these unreal places.

Secondly, yeah this place is unreal. So please yourself with whatever you want to believe. Don't worry, there are some real people out there still.


excaza
Oh, so you've got data now!? Hot damn! Let's see those experiments!

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Well seeing you don't know the truth of any triviality or uselessness, I'd say you are either relying on what you hear others say, or you just want to paint that image.

Given that the first reaction your book elicits is "great, so what?" to multiple people, I'd say you need to figure out the "truth" yourself. Your book presents nothing but music games and number tricks, and you've admitted it.
excaza
Hmmm...3,489 in base ten is equivalent to 6,641 in base eight. 6+6+4+1 gives you 21 in base eight. 2+1 is equal to 3 in base eight, which is equal to 3 in base ten.

Stay tuned for my textbook, where I show everyone that we're just a base 8 galaxy in a base 10 universe. There are stunning implications. Base 8 Galaxy in a Base 10 Universe, that would be a catchy song too! I need to make sure to write it so it sounds great in reverse.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 09:56 PM)
Oh, so you've got data now!? Hot damn! Let's see those experiments!


Given that the first reaction your book elicits is "great, so what?" to multiple people, I'd say you need to figure out the "truth" yourself. Your book presents nothing but music games and number tricks, and you've admitted it.

Keep sucking your thumbs excaza. Cooochie cooochie kooo.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 10:03 PM)
Hmmm...3,489 in base ten is equivalent to 6,641 in base eight. 6+6+4+1 gives you 21 in base eight. 2+1 is equal to 3 in base eight, which is equal to 3 in base ten.

Stay tuned for my textbook, where I show everyone that we're just a base 8 galaxy in a base 10 universe. There are stunning implications. Base 8 Galaxy in a Base 10 Universe, that would be a catchy song too! I need to make sure to write it so it sounds great in reverse.

You're still missing the point of "whole unit" and mirror partners. But then, you could have parroted those points if a textbook had instructed you to. That's the difference isn't it? And why one must learn the lesson that you don't take things to the mediocrity first. Ain't that so excaza?
excaza
Help me write some lyrics! You can't respond to questions with anything but bullshit, so you can write songs instead.
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 1 2008, 11:14 PM)
Help me write some lyrics! You can't respond to questions with anything but bullshit, so you can write songs instead.



You're still missing the point. Whole unit info and mirror partners are not BS. Your reaction is BS. Don't pretend you know what is what already. You don't. You've proved you don't.

Whole unit, as in bringing together contrary spin into one whole unit, and focusing on the kind of relationships that are there by default. Using that default map as a basis for building on. Applications being built from such a basis. Replicating nature's
default spin principles in our designs. I don't need to do any more than present an alternative way of dealing with units of information.

So, your reaction is BS.
Grumpy
Bonehead

You sure can spew reams of meaningless number games and mysticism, but answering questions, not so much.

Your work is garbage, you are too(for your behavior).


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If you were right, I'd have got a web site together and sold my games and tricks, and made a little name for myself. 


He is right, and you have made quite a name for yourself, just not a name you can be proud of.

Crank.

Fraud.

Nutjob.

And a whole lot more that are not so nice.

Grumpy cool.gif
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 05:17 PM)
Bm, you'd never have passed any exams, if you have that is, by not knowing about the material you were studying. Stop twisting the simple things in life around. It is more than easy to live with the fakers around here.

That's irrelevant. More than once I have found errors in textbooks which are simple compared to the subject matter. For example, a simple calculation error in a textbook teaching Linear algebra. I didn't need to know any linear algebra to spot that 1+1<>3

Now that we've explained away that silly argument, you have left 3 questions unanswered here. Do you intend to answer them?
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 05:39 PM)
Yes, the knowledge I've gained from mirroring has given me the right to say it may help string theory, due to the fact that they are promoting the theory of vibrating strings. Unless all stirng theoriests have AN's attitude, I'd say one or two may be interested in that thought. Will put it to the test in due course.

That really does sound ridiculous.

String theory is so much more fundamental than the claptrap you keep harping on about, it's like suggesting that if you can find a pattern for when the buses turn up, you could use it to help build a new superbus!!!
Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Sep 2 2008, 03:19 AM)
Bonehead

You sure can spew reams of meaningless number games and mysticism, but answering questions, not so much.

Your work is garbage, you are too(for your behavior).




He is right, and you have made quite a name for yourself, just not a name you can be proud of.

Crank.

Fraud.

Nutjob.

And a whole lot more that are not so nice.

Grumpy cool.gif

BLAH BLAH, little hyenas at play. You have no credibilty in my eyes either. So we're even there.
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 2 2008, 08:42 AM)
That's irrelevant. More than once I have found errors in textbooks which are simple compared to the subject matter. For example, a simple calculation error in a textbook teaching Linear algebra. I didn't need to know any linear algebra to spot that 1+1<>3

Now that we've explained away that silly argument, you have left 3 questions unanswered here. Do you intend to answer them?

Pile of dross BM. I might as well turn up at a court and act as a defending lawyer for someone without knowing any law. So your example is what is silly, and grow up idiot.
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 2 2008, 12:45 PM)
Pile of dross BM. I might as well turn up at a court and act as a defending lawyer for someone without knowing any law. So your example is what is silly, and grow up idiot.

More rant and personal attack, still no cohesive response.

Are you suggesting that because I don't know about music, I am not able to spot mathematical inconsistencies or trivialities in your 'book'?
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 2 2008, 12:18 PM)
More rant and personal attack, still no cohesive response.

Are you suggesting that because I don't know about music, I am not able to spot mathematical inconsistencies or trivialities in your 'book'?

You're posting like a person that has missed the point, is what I'm suggesting. And you missed the point because you have no music theory ability. And even if you did you'd still be in danger of missing the point. It doesn't matter how knowledgeable a person is, if they've missed the point it all comes to naught.

I'm busy doing animations for a youtube video getting into that point. Go away.:-))
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 2 2008, 01:27 PM)
You're posting like a person that has missed the point, is what I'm suggesting. And you missed the point because you have no music theory ability. And even if you did you'd still be in danger of missing the point. It doesn't matter how knowledgeable a person is, if they've missed the point it all comes to naught.

Yet more obfuscation. I asked 3 questions here. Do you have any intention whatsoever of attempting to answer them?

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I'm busy doing animations for a youtube video getting into that point. Go away.:-))

If you're that busy, why are you posting here?
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 2 2008, 01:21 PM)
Yet more obfuscation. I asked 3 questions here. Do you have any intention whatsoever of attempting to answer them?


If you're that busy, why are you posting here?






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And yet you think you can declare that your book will help string theory without knowing any physics, let alone any string theory?


No more than you are declaring with your zero knowledge of music theory. Why don't you apply that question to yourself? Go take a course , then you might even get the insight required to know why I'd think string theory may benefit from the mirroring technique.

I'm posting here because I want to.
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 2 2008, 02:34 PM)
No more than you are declaring with your zero knowledge of music theory. Why don't you apply that question to yourself? Go take a course , then you might even get the insight required to know why I'd think string theory may benefit from the mirroring technique.

I have stated numerous times that I am not qualified to comment on anything to do with music. I can, however, tell that all the maths you incorporate is either wrong or trivial.

You are assuming something of string theory whilst having no knowledge about it. Do you see the difference?

Do you have intention of answering the other 2 questions I asked here?

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I'm posting here because I want to.

Then you obviously aren't busy enough that me being here is causing you any undue stress. So I'll stay.
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 2 2008, 01:51 PM)
I have stated numerous times that I am not qualified to comment on anything to do with music. I can, however, tell that all the maths you incorporate is either wrong or trivial.

You are assuming something of string theory whilst having no knowledge about it. Do you see the difference?

Do you have intention of answering the other 2 questions I asked here?


Then you obviously aren't busy enough that me being here is causing you any undue stress. So I'll stay.

BM, get off your 25 year old pedestal.

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The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10−33 cm) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstring_theory



What's hard about understanding that? Mirror harmonic relationships determine forces of mirror universe? A half unit is better than a whole unit right? A whole unit is too trivial right? A universe is a sea of vibration. There ain't any game about it.
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 2 2008, 03:00 PM)
BM, get off your 25 year old pedestal.

I'm just asking questions. You are the one pertaining to have invented a new 'tool' for string theory.

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The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10−33 cm) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces.

String theory is so much more fundamental than your 'mirror theory', that your claim is synonomous with claiming that a pattern in the arrival of buses could help to design a new 'superbus'. It's a bit crazy, to be honest.

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The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10−33 cm) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces.

String theory is so much more fundamental than your 'mirror theory', that your claim is synonomous with claiming that a pattern in the arrival of buses could help to design a new 'superbus'. It's a bit crazy, to be honest.

What's hard about understanding that?

Are you presuming that a short wiki on string theory gives you an understanding of the subject?

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Mirror harmonic relationships determine forces of mirror universe?

Where is your proposed 'mirror universe'?

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Mirror harmonic relationships determine forces of mirror universe?

Where is your proposed 'mirror universe'?

A half unit is better than a whole unit right?

Units of what exactly? I'm not following you.

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A whole unit is too trivial right?

Well if you mean deducing that 2 half units make up a whole unit is trivial, then yes, that's extremely trivial.

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A whole unit is too trivial right?

Well if you mean deducing that 2 half units make up a whole unit is trivial, then yes, that's extremely trivial.

A universe is a sea of vibration.

Our universe? Or your 'mirror' universe?

Grumpy
Bonehead


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You have no credibilty in my eyes either.


But you are basically alone in that assessment, while the majority of the legitimate scientists agree with me. I'll take legitimate scientists opinions over WooWoo any day of the week!!!


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You have no credibilty in my eyes either.


But you are basically alone in that assessment, while the majority of the legitimate scientists agree with me. I'll take legitimate scientists opinions over WooWoo any day of the week!!!


So we're even there.


Hardly!!! Read any of your feedback lately??? The one thing the feedback IS good for is to easily identify cranks and pseudo-scientists such as yourself.

You're a nutjob with poo for brains. Your "work" is a joke and you and your "work" are almost unanimously scorned any time you post outside of forums with your fellow cranks as a majority(such as BFN). You have totally failed the peer review process, won't answer legitimate questions and react with obscenities whenever challenged. You're not even a decent human being, much less a decent scientist, and your Merkaba conclusions are simply a steaming pile of mystical CRAP. While recycling is usually a good thing, making a book out of already well used toilet paper is going way too far!!!

It has got to suck bigtime to be a pathetic loser like yourself, the Rodney Dangerfield of physorg!!!

Grumpy laugh.gif
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 2 2008, 02:17 PM)
I'm just asking questions. You are the one pertaining to have invented a new 'tool' for string theory.


String theory is so much more fundamental than your 'mirror theory', that your claim is synonomous with claiming that a pattern in the arrival of buses could help to design a new 'superbus'. It's a bit crazy, to be honest.


Are you presuming that a short wiki on string theory gives you an understanding of the subject?


Where is your proposed 'mirror universe'?


Units of what exactly? I'm not following you.


Well if you mean deducing that 2 half units make up a whole unit is trivial, then yes, that's extremely trivial.


Our universe? Or your 'mirror' universe?

You're full of it. I made a simple statement, that string theory may benefit from the mirroring technique. Get over yourself.

If string theory believes that different harmonics constitute different fundamental forces, then I will be staying with my opinions. I haven't pretending to know much about string theory. I know just enough to make my comment. I know just enough because I know a lot more than you about my own work and what it implies.


Unless string theorists are all elitist stuck up pretentious gits, I'm sure some of them will either tell me they already do what I am suggesting, but thanks for the comment, or they will give it some consideration.


Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Sep 2 2008, 02:26 PM)
Bonehead




But you are basically alone in that assessment, while the majority of the legitimate scientists agree with me. I'll take legitimate scientists opinions over WooWoo any day of the week!!!




Hardly!!! Read any of your feedback lately??? The one thing the feedback IS good for is to easily identify cranks and pseudo-scientists such as yourself.

You're a nutjob with poo for brains. Your "work" is a joke and you and your "work" are almost unanimously scorned any time you post outside of forums with your fellow cranks as a majority(such as BFN). You have totally failed the peer review process, won't answer legitimate questions and react with obscenities whenever challenged. You're not even a decent human being, much less a decent scientist, and your Merkaba conclusions are simply a steaming pile of mystical CRAP. While recycling is usually a good thing, making a book out of already well used toilet paper is going way too far!!!

It has got to suck bigtime to be a pathetic loser like yourself, the Rodney Dangerfield of physorg!!!

Grumpy laugh.gif

Grumpty Dumpty

I know you want to see out your last days bashing the fundies, so why not get to it eh?

If you think a handful of pretentious @ssholes on a physorg forum are enough to stop a thinker carrying on, and wishing to attract other real thinkers, then you are going senile ol chap.
NEONOM
oh dear oh dear oh dear biggrin.gif
excaza
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 1 2008, 07:22 PM)


You're still missing the point. Whole unit info and mirror partners are not BS. Your reaction is BS. Don't pretend you know what is what already. You don't. You've proved you don't.

Whole unit, as in bringing together contrary spin into one whole unit, and focusing on the kind of relationships that are there by default. Using that default map as a basis for building on. Applications being built from such a basis. Replicating nature's
default spin principles in our designs. I don't need to do any more than present an alternative way of dealing with units of information.

So, your reaction is BS.

You're not qualified to judge my reaction until you've read my book. Included in my book "Base 8 Galaxy in a Base 10 Universe" is also the marvelous fact that the limit of a laplace transformation is the same as the limit of the original function***! I think I'm going to have to rethink my book title sad.gif

Did you write me some lyrics yet? Get those creative juices flowing!


***so long as the poles lie in the left half plane
Boneidol
QUOTE (excaza+Sep 2 2008, 03:07 PM)
You're not qualified to judge my reaction until you've read my book. Included in my book "Base 8 Galaxy in a Base 10 Universe" is also the marvelous fact that the limit of a laplace transformation is the same as the limit of the original function***! I think I'm going to have to rethink my book title sad.gif

Did you write me some lyrics yet? Get those creative juices flowing!


***so long as the poles lie in the left half plane

The afternoon shift commences.

Excaza sucks whilst Mpants sighs
All the way down to his flies
And as he came, a little grunt
Now he can go and be a .......:-)
excaza
Why don't you like my book? It's got some fabulous implications.
bm1957
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 2 2008, 03:33 PM)
You're full of it. Get over yourself.

I'm just asking questions.

QUOTE
I made a simple statement, that string theory may benefit from the mirroring technique.

Liar. You insisted that your 'theory' would have benefits for string theory.

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
I made a simple statement, that string theory may benefit from the mirroring technique.

Liar. You insisted that your 'theory' would have benefits for string theory.

I know just enough to make my comment.

Your justification? Oh...
QUOTE
I know just enough because I know a lot more than you about my own work and what it implies.

Good grief, what am I arguing with? You've heard the term, 'logical fallacy', I assume?

QUOTE (->
QUOTE
I know just enough because I know a lot more than you about my own work and what it implies.

Good grief, what am I arguing with? You've heard the term, 'logical fallacy', I assume?

Unless string theorists are all elitist stuck up pretentious gits, I'm sure some of them will either tell me they already do what I am suggesting, but thanks for the comment, or they will give it some consideration.

Yeah, either one of those things, or alternatively, your 'theory' is completely naff and trivial and completely redundant.
Boneidol
QUOTE (bm1957+Sep 2 2008, 03:48 PM)
I'm just asking questions.


Liar. You insisted that your 'theory' would have benefits for string theory.


Your justification? Oh...

Good grief, what am I arguing with? You've heard the term, 'logical fallacy', I assume?


Yeah, either one of those things, or alternatively, your 'theory' is completely naff and trivial and completely redundant.

Yes, it remains to be seen.
TheDoc
QUOTE (Lui+)
Yes, it remains to be seen.

Killer comeback Lui.
N O M
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 3 2008, 02:37 AM)
If you think a handful of pretentious @ssholes on a physorg forum are enough to stop a thinker carrying on, and wishing to attract other real thinkers, then you are going senile ol chap.

It seems that the moderators repeatedly banning you doesn't work.
Boneidol
QUOTE (N O M+Sep 2 2008, 08:36 PM)
It seems that the moderators repeatedly banning you doesn't work.

Hey look NOM, I found some stand-ins for you and your pals, for when your mammas are giving you your daily chores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xh2YpA1JzE
NEONOM
Boney the phoney
was a moaning cronie
who jumped into bed
with his best friend Tony

biggrin.gif
Boneidol
QUOTE (NEONOM+Sep 3 2008, 12:24 AM)
Boney the phoney
was a moaning cronie
who jumped into bed
with his best friend Tony

biggrin.gif

NEONOM got his NEONOB
Shoved it into 5D's gob
5D spat and turned to Doc
And asked to suck his tiny....


NEONOM
Then boney took his bible's words
arranged them into fluffy turds
spewed them on a forum blue
cos that's all he could ever do
Boneidol
NEONOM had given birth
To idle angst that fetched no worth
In fact his image all but stunts
To entertain the idle ......
Boneidol
In the name of the C, the U and N, the T and S
We shall be known
A forum mafia, and here's our home
NEONOM
Is everything you do really sh!t? laugh.gif
Boneidol
NEONOM had broken wind
But dribble he could not rescind
At the drop of a pastor's pointy hat
NEONOM was named a .....
NEONOM
So that's a 'yes' then biggrin.gif
Boneidol
MONOEN, he had no style
Only cared for rank and file
If all such creatures were like this
Life would not be worth a .....
Boneidol
QUOTE (NEONOM+Sep 3 2008, 12:49 AM)
So that's a 'yes' then biggrin.gif

Yes you are a greasy tard
A slimey smelly piece of lard


5d
In old english currency
About 5 cents, more sense than you
You poor tard, just got no clue

Grumpy
Bonehead, bonehead, what a git
Always seeking what he can never get
Recognition for valid work
Sabotaged by a fatal quirk

It's his Merkaba that's the flaw
Sorry kid, but it's the law
It matters not what Ancients say
It only matters what you prove today

Don't you think it's time to quit
Consensus says your book is s---
Numerology will not fly
You're a twit to even try

Your garbage o'er the net you strew
In piles that smell of, well, PU
Your work is POO, and you are CRASS
So shove this garbage up your A--.

Grumpy laugh.gif
Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Sep 3 2008, 01:10 AM)
Bonehead, bonehead, what a git
Always seeking what he can never get
Recognition for valid work
Sabotaged by a fatal quirk

It's his Merkaba that's the flaw
Sorry kid, but it's the law
It matters not what Ancients say
It only matters what you prove today

Don't you think it's time to quit
Consensus says your book is s---
Numerology will not fly
You're a twit to even try

Your garbage o'er the net you strew
In piles that smell of, well, PU
Your work is POO, and you are CRASS
So shove this garbage up your A--.

Grumpy laugh.gif

Now here's man who likes it lumpy
BS, that is, his name is Grumpy
Thinks he's qualified to judge
But some do know it's just a grudge

When one does prod it does appear
His judgement is a little queer
Not informed, one will ask
Just what is in his little task

It seems, like one of his failed erections
This is nothing but pride protection
All life long he's tried to steer
All things from his deepest fear

So he supports the trolls instead
Coz blindness rules his sorry head
But he may see in light of day
Knowledge come his sorry way

Can't wait.




TheDoc
Boneidol's sad
'cos we all know his name;
his name is Lui,
and at this he is mad.
He was forever in search mode,
looking for answers, looking for solutions
and though at first he seemed legitimate
his dubious stances were finally made clear.

Now his time is spent on PhysOrg condemning cowardice,
something equally laughable as his own acts were exposed by a toad.
Idiocies is what he spouts,
he likes to think of himself as an intellectual,
but against the arguments of the great god Thor he can only pout.
"Hypocrisy, bullying, lies!" is what he screams,
despite secretly believing that the ends justify the means.
His Music and mirrors can make people stammer,
but they're no match for the Ol' Hammer.

Such is the great reign of Lui
that his wrath does not instill fear in me,
and I shall forever be peaceful in the knowledge
that even a Time Lord can prove him wrong.
ASTERIX*
Roses are reddy
Violets are bluey
I've pooped a big job
And it looks just like Lui





NEONOM
Boney the phoney
was still all moany
Ah diddums
he got no riddims
So he changed his name to idle-e-nob
shat out mirrors
and spewed from his gob
A turd-a-minute
was his goal
but his lameass tripe was reduced to just a few lines a day, thankfully.

biggrin.gif
Boneidol
QUOTE (TheDoc+Sep 3 2008, 04:59 AM)
Boneidol's sad
'cos we all know his name;
his name is Lui,
and at this he is mad.
He was forever in search mode,
looking for answers, looking for solutions
and though at first he seemed legitimate
his dubious stances were finally made clear.

Now his time is spent on PhysOrg condemning cowardice,
something equally laughable as his own acts were exposed by a toad.
Idiocies is what he spouts,
he likes to think of himself as an intellectual,
but against the arguments of the great god Thor he can only pout.
"Hypocrisy, bullying, lies!" is what he screams,
despite secretly believing that the ends justify the means.
His Music and mirrors can make people stammer,
but they're no match for the Ol' Hammer.

Such is the great reign of Lui
that his wrath does not instill fear in me,
and I shall forever be peaceful in the knowledge
that even a Time Lord can prove him wrong.

Ha ha, that's what it's all about for minds like yours "no match for so and so". School boy stuff. Sorry but you seem to have made the wrong choices in life.
Sadly you and your pals are no slayers of cranks. You are cranks.






Boneidol
QUOTE (NEONOM+Sep 3 2008, 09:49 AM)
Boney the phoney
was still all moany
Ah diddums
he got no riddims
So he changed his name to idle-e-nob
shat out mirrors
and spewed from his gob
A turd-a-minute
was his goal
but his lameass tripe was reduced to just a few lines a day, thankfully.

biggrin.gif

Everything about you is mediocre, poems too.
Science is far more noble than an ego head like you and the rest of your mediocrity crew. The day science is reflected in the actions of a troll such as yourself, the people can know something isn't right.

Shouldn't the decent folk move on and give this forum over to these goons?
There's no shame in giving Phys-Borg up to their destructive force.

It was idealism getting in the way
Wasting my time with hyenas at play
Grumpy
Lui, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze,
marley, AzAAzA, Bonehead, PUHLEEZE!!!
It doesn't matter how it is said
Because all of these monikers still mean BRAINDEAD!!!

"Masculine/Feminine numbers" says he
Everyone else asks"How can that be???"
But answering questions, you know he does not
Instead he gets nasty and acts like a snot

With Gobbledegoop he does seek to obscure
That his "work" is just BS, but a BS so pure
That farmers can use it to sweeten the field
Except for the ODOR, that cannot be killed

So the next time he posts, just keep this in mind
He is only a human, of the stupidest kind
He would answer your questions, if only he could
But he can't do that with a brain made of wood

Grumpy laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif
NEONOM
QUOTE (Boneidol+Sep 3 2008, 12:38 PM)
Everything about you is mediocre, poems too.
Science is far more noble than an ego head like you and the rest of your mediocrity crew. The day science is reflected in the actions of a troll such as yourself, the people can know something isn't right.

Shouldn't the decent folk move on and give this forum over to these goons?
There's no shame in giving Phys-Borg up to their destructive force.

It was idealism getting in the way
Wasting my time with hyenas at play

You're the ego head braindead


QUOTE ( idle nob+)
The day science is reflected in the actions of a troll such as yourself, the people can know something isn't right.


The day lunacy isn't reflected by backdoor drivelists like you will be likewise.


QUOTE ( the same idle nob+)
In the name of the C, the U and N, the T and S
We shall be known
A forum mafia, and here's our home


Hey, I thought you were supposed to be the nice one? ph34r.gif
Boneidol
QUOTE (Grumpy+Sep 3 2008, 02:26 PM)
Lui, Mirrorman, Dibedy, Squeeze,
marley, AzAAzA, Bonehead, PUHLEEZE!!!
It doesn't matter how it is said
Because all of these monikers still mean BRAINDEAD!!!

"Masculine/Feminine numbers" says he
Everyone else asks"How can that be???"
But answering questions, you know he does not
Instead he gets nasty and acts like a snot

With Gobbledegoop he does seek to obscure
That his "work" is just BS, but a BS so pure
That farmers can use it to sweeten the field
Except for the ODOR, that cannot be killed

So the next time he posts, just keep this in mind
He is only a human, of the stupidest kind
He would answer your questions, if only he could
But he can't do that with a brain made of wood

Grumpy laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Actually dice it and slice it as you like
Between you and dad1, to name but two there is no difference in qualities.
A house is built on the quality of timber , not the quantity.
You like to think of yourself as this man of rationale and reason. But actually that which you worship has sidelined the most important thing. We don't need science to tell us we are conscious beings. We're not waiting for you to devise a theory before we go on to wake up further.

And building your house on the qualities you have chosen, will show you made the wrong choice Grumpy. Give it 50 years or so, and mankind will not be follwing those like you, nor the dad1 like. They will make that leap,
and your house will be in ruins, like the dead rotted timber it has become.

Here are the children your house spawned. Trolls and narrow-minded poor quality blindness. Nature has spoken, your house is revealed. So no thanks, I won't be worshipping the fasle prophet Grumpy.
NEONOM
What a hypocritical tosspot
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